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Around The AFC East: New York Jets

It's time to wrap up our weekly feature by focusing in on the NY Jets.  To do that, we welcome in John B of Gang Green Nation.

Matty I: Kerry Rhodes recently "tweeted" that he's predicting the Jets to have the league's #1 defense in the NFL in 2009. Two questions. One - are you at all concerned with how cocky this team might be getting? Two - do you honestly think that the Jets could be the league's #1 defense in '09 a year after being ranked 16th?

John B: To answer your first question, no. The possibility exists the Jets will not have a good defense this year. However, that will not be because of anything Kerry Rhodes wrote on Twitter. As a fan of a rival team, you will view this as cockiness. As a fan of the Jets, I will view it as confidence. It is in the eye of the beholder and in all honesty has little to do the execution on the field.

To answer your second question, yes. This is the NFL. Anything is possible. I would be surprised if it did happen, but it certainly could.

I do not really think the fact the defense was the 16th best a year ago is relevant to the discussion. Things fluctuate a lot from year to year in the league. The Dolphins themselves transformed from one of the worst teams in the history of the game into a division champion in one year. The defense that takes the field on Week 1 in Houston will be vastly different from the one that left the Meadowlands in Week 17 of 2008. The system will be completely different, and there will be at least four new starters. Pass defense was a huge weakness in 2008. The team added an excellent cover linebacker in Bart Scott, a Pro Bowl corner in Lito Sheppard, a proven nickel in Donald Strickland, and Jim Leonhard, an upgrade over Abram Elam in coverage. Marques Douglas will likely take over for Kenyon Coleman at defensive end. He quietly has register more tackles for a loss than any end in the league since 2002.

The defense has a lot of talent. One of the biggest complaints fans had a year ago was Eric Mangini and Bob Sutton not properly utilizing that talent. Ryan has a reputation as one of the game's best schemers. His aggressive system will give his playmakers more opportunities to make impact plays.

The key to the defense will be Vernon Gholston. If he can make good on his natural ability, this unit will be really good, and that goal of being the league's best will become more realistic. Rex Ryan's blitzes will become even more effective if the team has an elite pass rusher to draw attention on every play and open things up for other players. Will Gholston develop? I tend to doubt it. A lot of guys overcome struggles early in their careers, but they at least show a flash of promise. Gholston showed absolutely nothing as a rookie. There did not appear to be much on which to build.

Without Gholston developing, the Jets probably will not have the best defense in the NFL. Even if he does, it will be a tall order. That should be the goal, however. Given the new coaching staff and the talent aboard, I will say anything less than the unit finishing in the top half of this year would be a major disappointment if everybody stays healthy.

My Take: I'm sorry - but there's a fine line between confidence and cockiness.  And guaranteeing that your defense will be the #1 defense in the NFL is just ridiculously cocky and arrogant.  And it absolutely serves no purpose.  How did Donte Whitner's prediction of Buffalo making the playoffs last year turn out?  Or how about Jon Kitna's 10 win prediction for the Lions a couple years back?  More often than not, these asinine guarantees backfire completely and make the person who made it look like an ass.  Now - as far as the Jets defense is concerned - I think it'll be better in '09, no question.  Bart Scott and Lito Sheppard instantly upgrade the unit.  But let's get real.  This defense will not be the #1 in the league - no chance in hell.  Just like last offseason when I said there was absolutely no way the Bills would make the playoffs (no matter what Donte Whitner wanted you to believe), I will again put my reputation (if I even have one) on the line and tell you there's no way the Jets will have the #1 ranked defense in 2009.  Period.

Be sure to head over to GGN at some point today to check out some Cameron Wake talk.

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What reputation Matty? :)

Now hear this, rival team player predicts SB greatness .

Take the statement at face value, the jets defense should be better, at least that’s what it seems like on paper. Still there are questions abound – was Bart Scott’s success merely a product of being surrounded by top players in Balt. like Ray Lewis? The same could be said for Jim Leonhard who played alongside the incomparable Ed Reed. We might also wonder how Lito Sheppard will do in Rex Ryan’s schemes. And going to the mouth of the horse, er tweet that is, we might ask if Kerry Rhodes, who is a talented guy, will regain his ’07 form or regress again as he did in ’08.

Moreover, putting aside the defense, it is hard to be a #1 defense with so many questions (and likely big struggles) on offense. Who is their QB? Who will be their receivers? Is any defense even remotely worried about this unit other than maybe Thomas Jones?

I don’t see any reason to get bothered by any of this. I mean Joey Porter was making guarantees during our 1-15 campaign remember. So rather than be annoyed I’d say it makes for good comedy!

by Natalya on Jun 5, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate the Jets.

This guy. Can you be a little more bias and ignorant. He might as well be writing for the main steam media.
“Things fluctuate a lot from year to year in the league. The Dolphins themselves transformed from one of the worst teams in the history of the game into a division champion in one year.”
Are we as fans the only people that watched Dolphin football in ‘07’? We lost countless players to injury including our staring QB, 3 RB’S, our Middle line backers and most of the secondary and we were still competitive losing 6 games by 3 points or less. If Brady gets hurt the Pats are struggling because of injuries. I listen to the announcers every Sunday talking about how a key injury or injuries are affecting the performance of the team playing. Not one piece of media I watched, read or listened to attributed a the injuries to having anything to do with the Dolphins having a poor season. In their eyes we were just the worst team in football and playing bad.
And then He gets his LameGreen jab in saying “The defense that takes the field on Week 1 in Houston will be vastly different from the one that left the Meadowlands in Week 17 of 2008.” I hope so buddy or you all can look forward to sitting on the couch again watching someone else root for their team in the play offs!
That week 17 game hurt didn’t it.
Go Dolphins!!!

by Qtis on Jun 5, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

True, we had alot of injuries a couple of years ago

but we were still pretty damn bad, if a win is a win, then a loss is a loss.

Can't stop to save my soul
I take the leash that's leading me
I'm bleeding me, whoa!

by Patssuck456 on Jun 5, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

POP!!!

I hear a green bubble bursting….

Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions

by Phintastic on Jun 5, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

JETS = Just Eat This Stupid....

29 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
(1/2 in the 29 "Phinsider Fued" Points for slapping with "That's What She Said")

by Alpha6 on Jun 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Gang Green Nobody?

I clicked the link for Gang Green Nation to see Matty’s response, and found the site quite amusing.
Most recent fanpost: 15 days ago. After that, about 1 month ago.
Most recent fanshot: 12 days ago.

  1. of combined comments to all stories included on the front page: 0

Amazing. I take this to imply that Jets fans do no commenting/research in the offseason. Sounds about right.

by Shea-dy on Jun 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Typo

1. should have been Number of. Seems like the symbol I used didn’t come through. Weird.

by Shea-dy on Jun 5, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i check out the sites of the other afc east teams all the time. the jets site is pretty pathetic. also, shallow and pedantic.

by ncfinfan on Jun 5, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm yes..

shallow and pedantic

Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Four 2008/2009 Matty Awards
Matty I says, "its all fun and games until somebody goes to jail and gets raped"

by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 7, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL

30 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman

by Alpha6 on Jun 7, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

jets did upgrade on paper

put them on the field and let them prove how good they are. im not so sure theyll be much better. a good defense is nothing without an offense. or a good offense is nothing without a good defense.

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by el presidente 00 on Jun 5, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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