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After a one week hiatus, our weekly offseason "Around The AFC East" feature is back.  To kick things off for us this week, welcome in Brian Galliford of Buffalo Rumblings.

Matty I: I remember reading reports from various sources that claimed Bills 1st round pick Aaron Maybin's play at Bills OTAs was "brutal." Can you shed any light on what that actually means? And are you concerned at all about Maybin right now?

Brian G: Ah, yes - you refer to the Mike Florio "report" in which the only reasons he lists for the word "brutal" making the rounds is that Maybin was getting first-team reps and that he got into a little skirmish with a reserve offensive tackle.  What first-round rookie isn't getting first-team reps this time of the year - particularly one that is expected to contribute?  Isn't that a good thing?  And how is getting into a fight at an OTA an indication of poor play?  I'm not sure who Florio's sources are or what his agenda is writing crap like that, but I've seen more interesting and accurate reporting at The Onion.

The fact of the matter is that Maybin has been quite impressive at OTAs.  From what I have personally heard, the coaching staff is raving about his lightning-quick first step and his motor.  They think they've got an immediate-impact pass rusher on their hands.  The only negative that I have heard - and there are some Bills fans that see this as a positive - is that the Penn State rookie has an issue keeping his mouth closed (which may or may not be directly related to the aforementioned skirmish).  He likes to talk a lot on the field.  In a pretty laid-back setting in which he's making his first impression on veteran NFL players, it's not surprising that he's irritating a few of Buffalo's vets.

The positive reports that I'm hearing aren't indicative of anything other than the fact that Buffalo's coaches like what they have seen thus far from Maybin.  That doesn't erase any of the concerns surrounding the kid, particularly his weight and core strength, his mouth, and the fact that he's being counted on to essentially single-handedly revitalize one of the NFL's most anemic pass rushes.  His one year of college experience translating to the NFL field is going to be a problem, too.  We have no delusions about the kid - he's another in a long line of gambles that the Bills have taken this off-season; both his upside and his downside are tremendous.  But the "brutal" reports?  Take from them whatever you want - it's June.

My Take: To be honest, I didn't even know where those "brutal" reports stemmed from.  Knowing that it's a PFT exclusive kind of report does make you question it's validity - though we know Mike Florio has been dead-on accurate with some reports in the past (Nick Saban and the Alabama saga comes to mind first).  But here's the one thing to consider.  These are "non-contact" OTAs.  So it's hard to say how good any lineman, offensive or defensive, is doing at this point.  But I will admit that I'll take pleasure in seeing the mouthy rookie planted time and time again by Jake Long if the opportunity presents itself - that's for sure.

Head over to BR at some point today to check out some talk about Miami's secondary.

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Wasn’t Maybin on everybody’s “Danger To Bust” board before the draft? Makes sense that the Bills took him.

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by KCsince88 on Jun 5, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know what I don't get?..

How come Maybin was a “Danger to Bust” basically because of his limited playing time in college, but Sanchez is the next coming accoring to any Jets fans. Wouldn’t you rather have a DE that played only one year in college than a QB? Just my two cents. Personally, I hope they both help lead the Dolphins to more wins.

by Cokes_03 on Jun 5, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was more than just his experience

he’s very small for a DE as well.

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by Matty I on Jun 5, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybin 6’3", 250 lbs.
Jason Taylor 6’6", 240 lbs.

At least according to SBN.

What makes you think his size is going to be his downfall? Taylor has been pretty good for you.

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by MattRichWarren on Jun 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

J2 acting like a Phinsider blogger

WISSSHH SLAP!!!

LOLOLOL – get’em MRW

meh – shakes head – i still don’t think thats funny

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because at Penn State, Maybin played at just over 230.

So we don’t know if he can be effective at 250.

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by Matty I on Jun 5, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you really think he gained twenty pounds since January?

He began gaining that muscle during the season. According to our sources he has a quicker first step in OTAs than the coaches thought when they drafted him. He had the fastest ten-second split at the combine. I don’t think his quickness is the issue. His ability to play the run is. Use that argument, not his size.

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by MattRichWarren on Jun 5, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah - you're right.

You win. I’m an idiot. And whatever I do, I won’t use “his size” as an argument – cus you told me not to.

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by Matty I on Jun 5, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by finsxfactor on Jun 5, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never called you an idiot, LOL.

That would defeat the purpose of the conversation and make me an idiot for arguing with an idiot. You’re a smart guy. I’m just saying his size won’t hinder him just like it didn’t hinder Jason Taylor. If he does not succeed it will be for his lack of ability playing the run. Use whatever argument you want but it’s flawed.

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by MattRichWarren on Jun 6, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but lack of ability to play the run has some correlation to weight...

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by finsxfactor on Jun 6, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some correlation....

but it hasn’t stopped Jason Taylor from playing the run in the Dolphins 4-3 back in the day did it?

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by MattRichWarren on Jun 6, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah...

Matty, a joy and a pleasure as usual sir. Maybin is going to look great getting pancaked by Jake multiple times a game. Can’t wait for the season to start!

by Phishenstein on Jun 5, 2009 3:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actualy Maybin will probably play the LDE with Schobel as the RDE. So Maybin, barring injury, probably wouldn’t be lining up across from Long very often.

I like the Maybin pickup – his bust/boom potential are equal – but he’s got a ton of upside and I’m glad they went after a guy that actually has the capacity to change a game.

I think he needs to bulk up and get more experience – I’m thinking 2/3 years before we see solid production from him – anything sooner would be a bonus.

Brian:

I’m not sure who Florio’s sources are or what his agenda is writing crap like that, but I’ve seen more interesting and accurate reporting at The Onion.

Great shot at Florio – not for Florio’s sake but for mine - I love The Onion.

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybin

won’t be able to circle the wagon with Jake Long in his way

by Brian5517209 on Jun 5, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what the hell does "circle the wagon" mean anyway?

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by Patssuck456 on Jun 5, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.....

…. circling the wagons was used by traveling parties during the 1800’s as a shield to provide some protection againts attacking Indians.

I don’t know how that relates here.

Can you clarify Brian?

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by Alpha6 on Jun 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah what does that have to do with football?

its bad enough to hear Chris"Fuck it I’m not even going to hide my homerism" Berman say it every week, but it really doesnt make sense in a football context or am I missing something here?

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by Patssuck456 on Jun 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

It’s some kind of metaphor for getting around the tackle to get to the QB? I dunno, I’m just making a guess here.

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by Chupathingy on Jun 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://books.google.com/books?id=uamKt6lwJz8C&pg=RA1-PA162&lpg=RA1-PA162&dq=Phil+Mickelson+Buffalo+Bills&source=bl&ots=jjeL3QBHcP&sig=HQL2NVMguUEZuQBCWAYqf47CbzM&hl=en&ei=6WIpSumHBZa8M5rcgekJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8#PRA1-PA163,M1

this is where it originated from – ironically enough – one of our editors posted this article today so it was good timing! this was for the celebrity following of the Bills but in there is how that phrase became “legendary” in Buffalo

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buffalo Chip is also legendary for the Bills....

… and don’t bring up Buffalo Bill….. he got his ASS kicked.. !!

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by Alpha6 on Jun 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Jodie Foster got him good!

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by MattRichWarren on Jun 5, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Circling the Wagons” is viewed as a team effort. One dude can’t circle the covered wagon and protect it from the enemy by himself, can he? So to Berman, “circling the wagons”, in the football sense, means playing as a team. And he applied it to the Bills because I have no idea why – I’m only 23, and thus grew up with the phrase but missed its origin.

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by Brian Galliford on Jun 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

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by Alpha6 on Jun 5, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the correlation comes from the fact that our Buffalo Bills were named after Buffalo Bill Cody who lived during the wild west era of american history. He put on plays/shows that were about cowboys and sometimes had quite literally had somebody circling a wagon. I’m not really sure what prompted Berman to start the phrase, but I think that’s the correlation.

by kaisertown on Jun 5, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knowing that it’s a PFT exclusive kind of report does mane you question it’s validity – though we know Mike Florio has been dead-on accurate with some reports in the past (Nick Saban and the Alabama saga comes to mind first).

My general take on Florio is his sources are great. He was the first national guy to report T.O. to the Bills. That being said I generally despise his opinion on anything other than law stuff since he was a lawyer. We haven’t heard anything from anyone else to corroborate this, on the record or off. Besides… it’s friggin May (when the report came out).

I am one of the Buffalo fans that doesn’t like a first-week rookie running his mouth BTW.

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by MattRichWarren on Jun 5, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am one of the Buffalo fans that doesn’t like a first-week rookie running his mouth BTW.

hahahaha – I love it

who cares if he runs his mouth if he can back it up – veteran smeteran. seriously – guys like you hated me growing up because I was always running my mouth – but I always backed it up. Thats all I ask out of him – back your talk up on the field.

Plus with the drones we have at DE – schobel/denney/kelsay – we need someone to talk a little smack – these guys are like chior boys – they don’t say a damn thing.

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you were obnoxious as a kid?

I never would have guessed…

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by Matty I on Jun 5, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whiiish SLAP!!!

LOLOLOL

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by Alpha6 on Jun 5, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell i’m obnoxious now and i’m 29.

maturity is for people that want to feel important. I’m mature in my career – thats about it – life is suppose to be fun. We get one shot at this thing called “life” and i’m going balls to the wall. Doesn’t hurt when you make almost 6 figures and party like a rock star – or party while playing rock band 2!

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL....... and I think I'm feeling a little jealously.....

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by Alpha6 on Jun 5, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

;) na just said party like a rock star because i’ve been blowing up that game the last few weeks – got the drums, mic, guitar and bass guitar for it. freaking game is great when you play with 4 people

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot to add Bacardi to that list

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

being obnoxious and having fun are too different things

but if you want to tell yourself it’s fun to be obnoxious – well, you do what you gotta do to justify yourself.

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by Matty I on Jun 5, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL

Damn. I’m seeing a funny side of you Matty.. !

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by Alpha6 on Jun 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but if you want to tell yourself it’s fun to be obnoxious

lol – you have no idea dude – no idea.

trust me on this one – maybe over time you’ll understand – but it takes a while to get where i’m coming from

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and I haven’t even tried one bit to be obnoxious – let me know if you want me to

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by J2 on Jun 5, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with bills guy on this one

I was a bit confused about the “brutal” report when I read it first, too. I read the article Florio cited as his source, and it didn’t say anything remotely like that.. Florio does tend to be very emotional about this opinions, so I wouldn’t give much credence to this.

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