Weekend Roundup: Talking Ted Ginn, Ronnie Brown, quarterbacks & more
The Dolphins wrapped up their three day minicamp on Sunday. Obviously, there is a lot that came out of this weekend's minicamp that deserves discussion. So I'll touch on some of the things that stuck out to me the most and then open to floor to all of you so you can highlight what you found most interesting about the minicamp down in Davie.
TED GINN IS OPENING EYES
This is a big year for Ted Ginn Jr. and early reports indicate that Teddy is looking very much improved. Of course, it's important to keep in mind that this was just a minicamp and no contact is allowed. But even still, the rave reviews that Ginn has been receiving are encouraging and should give even the most pessimistic Dolphins fans some hope.
The Palm Beach Post's Edgar Thompson wrote that Ginn is beginning to look like a veteran, "showing a burst and soft hands." The Sun-Sentinel's Omar Kelly adds that Ginn "appears faster than everyone on the field." While a cynic would simply write that comment off because Teddy has always had speed, you have to think about this in football terms.
Yes - Ginn is fast. We all know that. But he never played as fast as he timed. What I anticipate seeing from Ginn in 2009 is more speed when running his routes. That's what will make the biggest difference in Ted's game. He has to show the ability to get open 15 to 20 yards down the field - not 50 yards down the field. So what I am taking from these observations made by the beat writers is that Ginn is now playing faster than he has - probably because he's got a better understanding of the mental aspect of the game. If he recognizes and processes what he sees faster, he can then run his routes faster. It's that simple.
It may be beginning to click for the third year receiver now.
RONNIE BROWN SEEKING BIG SEASON
Just like Ted Ginn, Ronnie Brown knows he's entering a big season, too. And all reports are indicating that Ronnie is in better shape now than he ever has been. Before getting into what Ronnie himself said, here are some of the ways Brown has been described this weekend at minicamp. Edgar Thompson wrote that Brown "had a lot of touches and got to the outside quickly on several plays." Omar Kelly wrote that Ronnie "looks quick hitting the outside corner." But my favorite quote about Ronnie this weekend came from Thompson's twitter page, which reads, "Ronnie Brown looks blazing fast, he'd dust Ricky W in a race."
So how does Ronnie feel right now? "I'm stronger and a little faster, and I just feel I'm in better shape," Brown said. "As far as the knee situation it's pretty much gone."
Which brings me to my next point. To most football fans - myself included - it looked like Ronnie was fine last season. It didn't seem like the knee was slowing him down. But Brown, who did his homework this offseason by requesting and then watching a video of every play he was on the field for in 2008, said even he thought he was perfectly fine - until he watched the tape. Said Ronnie:
"I looked at that, and I could see I wasn't 100 percent. I just wasn't. I feel right now I'm more explosive right now in the things I'm doing. I watched [last year's plays] and thought there's more I could've done."
But Brown says now that the knee is completely healthy - which is probably why he looks as explosive as ever in practice. But head coach Tony Sparano made it a point to tell the media that he wants to see more long runs out of Ronnie. Brown agrees, saying "that's one of my goals this year, to break some long runs."
Ronnie must prove to the front office and the coaching staff that he's worth the long-term contract extension he is probably seeking. This is his year to show the world - and, in particular, the Ronnie "haters" out there - that he is among the game's elite running backs.
LET'S TALK QUARTERBACKS
I don't want to stoke the fire here because I know it's a heated debate among Dolphins fans. But I just wanted to highlight some observations made by some of the impartial beat writers who covered this weekend's events. There are a lot of people who simply want to hand the starting quarterback job to Chad Henne. But here is why you simply cannot just hand it to him - he must win it.
Edgar Thompson wrote in his blog, "Pennington outplayed Chad Henne when the two were both on the field this weekend. Henne had looked terrific in OTAs, but was erratic the past three days. Pennington showed the kind of calm, command and efficiency a team wants in a starter."
Meanwhile, the very even-keeled and "football smart" Omar Kelly writes:
Is Chad Henne ready to take over as the starting quarterback right now? Nope. His arm is amazing. Sometimes he zips balls into tight spots and I'd swear we're looking at Joe Flacco (yeah I said his name, violating Mob rules), but the offense doesn't move like it does under Pennington. It moves, but in spurts. Pennington rarely sputters....
I think that about sums it up right now. Chad Pennington is the offensive leader of this team. I mean - the guy left his sister's wedding at 1 in the morning and made it back for practice at 10 back down in Davie. And he wasn't even hung over. Impressive!
But, seriously, let's make Henne earn the job. If he can't beat out Pennington in practice, then he shouldn't be handed a damn thing. And with that said, I'm fully confident that by next season, Henne will pull even or ahead of Pennington as he learns more and more from Pennington.
QUICK HITS
-I'm not concerned at all about Pat White's early struggles. He's learning a new offense and it's going to take time. Please get off his back, everybody.
-Channing Crowder has done a lot of talking over the past week or so. But this weekend, he said something that I really like hearing. He said what many of us already know - that he needs to make more impact plays. Says Crowder, "They gave me the reins. I'm a three-down 'backer. I'm out there the whole game. Now it's time for me to step up."
-Tony Sparano pointed out that while the minicamp was very good, the one area that he isn't comfortable with yet is the red-zone offense. But Sparano did eliminate two OTA days this week, leaving Wednesday as the final day before vacation time for the players prior to training camp. In that session, Sparano said that they "will take care of" their one problem area.
-Remember that these OTAs and minicamps are all non-contact - so take what you read with a grain of salt. Jason Taylor probably said it best, declaring, "we look good in pajamas."
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I seriously cant stop laughing right now...lol...matty...12:14...hahahaha
on to ted ginn..I think we are going to see a highly improved number 19 running routes and playing on sundays. Production wise..it’s all going to depend on how balanced we are offensively. If we want to be that running team and have a great ronnie brown season…does that mean ted ginn can also put up 1,000 yards or so?
we’ll see and im pulling for them both. as well as i am pulling for henne. white hes a rookie and we knew he had some “kinks” to work out…turner is also looking like an absolute beast.
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by finsxfactor on Jun 15, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another great write up....
Aside from making the plays, I like to see Ginn make more touch downs… say 20 to 24 minimum.
Same for Ronnie… making 1,000 yards this season will be excellent… however 12 to 16 touch downs would be expected too.
For CP10, I don’t want a games manager only… I’d want him to be as agressive as he’s possible… but always minimizing the turn overs.
Equally, if not more, excited for the Dolphins defense!!
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by Alpha6 on Jun 15, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your expectations are far too high
For Ginn. There are hardly any receivers in a year that score a total of 15 touchdowns, let alone 20 to 24. The NFL record for touchdown receptions is 23 (Randy Moss), so unless he scores a good amount in kick/punt return or reverses, there’s no way he’ll come close to that.
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by ocelotfox on Jun 15, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.. !!!!!
… what the hell was I thinking?
Either I’m ignorant, or I had a typo on the numbers.
I go with later…. sould have been 10 to 14 for Ginn.
Whew! I think I survived that one…. LOL
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by Alpha6 on Jun 15, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 to24 looks better!! ; )
Anyway the pijamas and ur answer were funnie as hell!!
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by Aleta on Jun 16, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Armstrong stood out to me...
in the write ups and seems to figure. At least he’ll have a shot.
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by Corroncho on Jun 15, 2009 3:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He stood out last year too,
at least enough to make the practice squad. I hope the extra year had made him a bit more consistent. He’s supposed to be one fast SOB.
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by joel311 on Jun 15, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very good write up! i just buzzed it up
this gets me even more excited for the season to start… if that was even possible.
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by Madman29 on Jun 15, 2009 4:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love hearing that about Ginn
WR usually step up in year 3. IMO, he got a bad rap because of his draft position. IF he was a 2nd rounder like he probably should have been(late first at least), we’d most likely not give him such a hard time.
IMO, getting 1000yrds for Ronnie would not be enough to sign him for long term. I think double digit touchdowns is a must, which he is more then capable of. The fact that he looks and feels faster is awesome.
As for Penne and Henne, like you said there have been lots of discussions on what to do with that situation. However, the bottom line is that we have a excellent starter and an excellent prospect. Something we have not had since tight silver pants and thin red ties were popular under the mirror’d ball.
Looks like we are following the NE way. As mush as we hate them, you can’t deny their success. We are now getting to a stage where we are having discussions about who do we start because lots positions have multiple above average players.
I read yesterday about our linebackers and how Sporano said it will be very tough to cut some. He has 13 right now and lots are performing well, even though it’s just June.
Exciting times to be a Dolphin fan. I haven’t been this excited in June since Marino.
One thing that has not been mentioned is the fact that we went 11-5 with new players learnign a new system. Everyone knows in football, once you understand the system the game “slows down for you”, which we hear all the time. Once mentally you know where you need to be, you react quicker. Because we have a ton of guys that are returning is an intagible for a solid season with little mistakes. I love it.
by Polephin on Jun 15, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like we are following the NE way. As mush as we hate them, you can’t deny their success. We are now getting to a stage where we are having discussions about who do we start because lots positions have multiple above average players.
Sorry to disagree here Polephin, but credit where its due, its the Bill Parcell"s way, Belicheat is a Parcell’s disciple, NE does it the Bill Parcell’s way, we do it the Bill Parcell’s way :>)
by uncle finster on Jun 15, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The student has surpassed the teacher
by ct1361 on Jun 15, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is not true in the slightest.
Did we not win the division title in Parcell’s first foray into the AFC East?
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by joel311 on Jun 15, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, first foray?
How about THIRD foray into the AFC East? Parcells has been coach of the Patsies and the Yets.
by Yorke Hunt on Jun 15, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Belicheck is the best in the business right now.
He has had more success than Parcells and runs arguably the best organization football.
And yes, the Dolphins won the division last year, but the Patriots had the same record with a back-up QB who hadn’t started a game since high school.
If you asked GM’s around the league who you would rather have run your organization, Belicheck or Parcells, Belicheck would win in a landslide.
by ct1361 on Jun 15, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I don’t know about the landslide, but I agree.
by uncle finster on Jun 15, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bilicheat is not necessarily better than Parcells,
and here’s why. Bilicheat had an atrocious stint with the Browns prior to coming to the Patsies. Which means that even if given the time, he can not always turn things to gold. When he arrived at the Patsies, a good foundation was already in the works, with good personnel guys, front office, and Parcells fingerprints to expand on.
Should he ever go to another team, without the stars being perfectly aligned, there is no way of telling whether he will turn in another Patsies performance, or another Browns performance. To his credit, he has been able to maintain a solid franchise, which is different from being able to take a lousy team and turn it into a good, or great team.
Parcells, on the other hand, has been to the Giants, turning that franchise from a perennial loser to a super Bowl winner, the Pats, from lousy to playoff contender in just his second season, same with the Jets and Cowboys, and now Dolphins. He has turned all of those teams from having losing records the year before he got there to having a winning record and the playoffs usually in his first if not second year. He just hasn’t been at any one place long enough to build the playoff teams he created into Super Bowl teams, with the exception of the Giants.
I believe that if he is with the Dolphins long enough, which I’m inclined to believe he will, that the Fins will be contenders within the next year or two. Parcells usually left those other teams early when not given free reign without owner intervention to build those teams the way he wanted.
by Winstonian on Jun 16, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
However
the one team he won a SB with he was not the GM, he WAS a great coach no doubt, but Belicheat has won 3 rings, and has had a very good team every year, with the Pats, but Tuna no longer coaches, so its no longer a fair comparison.
by uncle finster on Jun 16, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then u can compare Sparano with Belicheat!
Sparano started to coach a 1-15 teamand make it a 11-5 East Champ!! Just in ONE year!! The sky is the limit!!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Jun 16, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Sparano
he may be my all time favorite coach in a couple years, but lol, but how do you compare a guy with 11 wins to a guy with 3 SB victories, Belicheat has more playoff victories then Sparano has reg. season victories, hey I’m with you, sky’s the limit, but he has to win a couple SBs before we can compare him to Belicheat:>)
by uncle finster on Jun 16, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hear you finster....
It is the Parcells way. I just was not sure that people on this site go back that far. NOt sure if people knew that Parcells taught BillyB.
As for the cheating do you think it was as bad as everyone said it was? Cause I really don’t. I think he was a scapegoat. The footage that they showed was something that every team does from what I heard.
Jimmy Johnson said he would go through the visiting teams trash for their playbook. Coaches have confrimed they hired lipreaders which is why everyone covers their mouth now.
by Polephin on Jun 15, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well he knew the penalty was steep and he continued to do it
going through the trash is not against the rules, nor is lip reading, video taping is, and he has long been suspected for it, since Cleveland.
It seems to me he was the target of the now infamous “memo”, and the story is that other teams were complaining about the Pats in particular, so yea I think he is guilty, but its over and done, the Tunaphins RULE lol :>)
by uncle finster on Jun 15, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is one thing i would love to see
Ronnie break through the whole and take it to the house without getting dragged down by a safety.
And I’m not worried about Pat White. We drafted him for potential.. he’s got the ability to make a couple of game-changing plays come year 1, but but it’s gonna take a bit to be that all-encompassing player we all know he can be. Patience is a major factor when analyzing all of his abilities.
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by BSerious72 on Jun 15, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its nice to hear that Crowder is going to try to step up his game.
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by Patssuck456 on Jun 15, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does my signature make me a "Ronnie Hater"?
Legitimate question!
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by joel311 on Jun 15, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It would appear so
on the surface, you have a bandwagon to trade him, so your definitely not a lover:>)
by uncle finster on Jun 15, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he loves him so much he thinks we can get big value in a trade?
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jun 15, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol well played lefty
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by finsxfactor on Jun 15, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cant help my self (pats lefty on the back)
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by finsxfactor on Jun 15, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A kind of love hurts situo?
LOL
by uncle finster on Jun 15, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn should be the fastest on the field.
Armstrong is a close second. They both can blow by the DBs, in pajamas. We shall see how big the margin is once pads come one. That’s when stronger guys, like Davis, tend to close that gap.
I also hope that Ginn is learning how to use his feet better. Beside things like making clean breaks, quicker steps off the line, quicker stutter steps…. these are things that should help him make better use of his long speed.
I too, am excited about Armstrong. Reports from last year’s preseaon were really good and if he is ready to take the next step, he could be every bit the deep threat as Ted Ginn. The thing that Armstrong seems to have, besides speed, is the ability to create space from the DB. I really was pulling for him last year and would love to see him make the team.
As for Ronnie, I always get the feeling from you Matty, that if you don’t buy in to the “potential”, you are a “hater”. I know you have a huge man-crush on Brown, but even you would have to admit that until potential becomes performance, Ronnie is an average back. 19th in the league last year in rushing yds. Good, but not elite. Certainly not what you would expect out of a #2 overall pick.
So I am glad the rebuilt Ronnie looks faster, stronger, better than before. And I truly believe he can be an elite back And I expect to see it from him this year. But he hasn’t done it yet and the road to obscurity is paved with potential. At this point, I am all about “show me”.
Completely agree about all 3 QBs. Hopefully Henne will rip the job right out of CPs grasp, when he is ready. And hopefully his chances will come during the season in some 4th quarter blowout FinWins. White? Hell, we haven’t seen anything from him, and probably won’t until preseason.
One thing I am surprised that you didn’t cover: JT. He got pancaked by a rookie, and has not looked like one of the top three or four best pass rushers out there. In fact, it sounded like at time out there JT seemed very frustrated.
So i throw this out there: Anyone think that JT might not make the final 53?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Jun 15, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
I was pulling for Armstrong last year too. As well as Jayson Foster. I hope he makes the team, but at the same time I’m afraid to hear who gets cut to make room. WR seems to be a bit overloaded for us as it is. What a great problem to have.
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by joel311 on Jun 15, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for JT,
he should be used as a DE whenever we use a 4-3 package. I think he needs his hand on the ground to be affective. It’s too late in his career to expect him to be anything more than average as a convert.
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by joel311 on Jun 15, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*effective.
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by joel311 on Jun 15, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie was 21st in attempts
so 19th in yards is good, 13th in avg. 150-carries min. the O-line needs to prove something IMO, not Ronnie, his entire career he has had to manufacture yards, cuz the line wasn’t making holes consistently, he’s only one man Lefty lol:>)
by uncle finster on Jun 15, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not saying i agree
but even if you are 100% correct, it does not change the fact that he has yet to prove that he is anything other than a solid back.
i will say that he has had some bad breaks being on the Fins during such an unstable time period. That and the injury certainly affected his performance. But there is little difference between talent and luck when evaluating the results.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jun 15, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I would say you can't just evaluate the results
you have to look and see what he has done on the field, has he made more of his situo than should be expected, IMO he has done that and more, its just not necassarily going to show up in the stats because its a team sport.
by uncle finster on Jun 15, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does the OL need to prove?
What does Ronnie’s ypc average need to be to prove the OL is doing their job effectively? 4 ypc? 5 ypc? 6?
Ronnie has never averaged under 4 ypc. In ’07 before he got hurt, he was over 5 ypc. As a team, since Ronnie had been a phin, the offense had an over 4 ypc average and Ronnie has had only one season in which he had over 50% of the teams carries.
by ct1361 on Jun 15, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he has
avg. over 4ypa, but IMO its been inspite of mediocre to bad O-line play.
by uncle finster on Jun 15, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't look at simple yardage totals when discussing Ronnie Brown.
He doesn’t get the workload other backs do. In ’07, he was on his way to getting that serious chance as a workhorse back and sufferend a freak injury.
But here’s my argument as to why Ronnie is a far better than average back (other than potential – because he has a crap-load of potential). Ronnie Brown averages 4.99 yards per touch throughout his NFL career. Some of the “elite” backs in the NFL that Brown has a higher average yards per touch than include Adrian Peterson (4.96), Michael Turner (4.94), LaDainian Tomlinson (4.91), Clinton Portis (4.86), Joseph Addai (4.80), Marion Barber (4.77), Shaun Alexander (4.57), Edgerrin James (4.53), Matt Forte (4.53), Marshawn Lynch (4.43),.
Brown’s 4.99 is tied with Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson – who also come in at 4.99 yards per touch.
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by Matty I on Jun 15, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very good argument (seriously)
but they don’t give out HoF spots for Yds/touch. =)
As I said, i would also love to see Ronnie break out this year, and i also believe he has the talent to be an elite back. But he has gone for a third (if he is very lucky) of his “running back life” without getting to the elite level, so he better do something soon.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jun 15, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know, i am definitely NOT a hater
but i have been disappointed by so much “potential” over the years that I now only care about actual performance for any guy that has been in the league over two years. I cut the rooks some slack for the first two years.
IMO, Ginn, Brown, and J.Allen have a lot to prove, and will probably be defined in a many people’s minds by their performances this year.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Jun 15, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah, throw in there Crowder and Roth as well.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jun 15, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very true
Ronnie and Teddy will definitely be “defined” this season. You can throw in Crowder and Roth, too.
But to me, Jason Allen is as good as “defined” already. He was a 1st round pick and he won’t crack the top 3 at the corner rotation. Enough said. If he had any hope, the Dolphins wouldn’t have had to draft 2 corners on day one back in April.
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by Matty I on Jun 15, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i absolutely will not argue on behalf of Jason Allen
BUT… I will say that if he is ever going to show something, he better do it now, because unlike all the other guys on this list, he currently does not even get the rank of “solid”.
He is big though, and if he plays at least as well as Eric Green, I think he sticks over Green.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jun 15, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
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by Matty I on Jun 15, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it......
… a Matty and Lefty reality check..!!
And neither of you are kidding. I agreed whole-heartedly with these values. One is out when the cuts come around with four in a “prove it” year. And if those four don’t, it will leave huge holes on the team… this year and into the next.
Which of these needs his contract renewed?
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by Alpha6 on Jun 15, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie and Roth are both in the final year of their deals
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by Matty I on Jun 15, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie Brown is pretty much defined as one of the best in the game right now...defined as in that infamous "breakoout" word and become top top...then sure. if you look at it. he's finally fully healthy and has the mental aspect of the game down..
he’s going to be unstoppable
and with ginn
yea we’ll see improvement but he will not become that instant deep threat amazing super playmaker intill we have a guy like henne in their. his ability as a deep ball vertical threat is a portion of his game that gives him the ability to be truely unique.
but with cp, if he’s the same cp, then im sure we’ll see him much more improved …defined…no…but much more improved
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by finsxfactor on Jun 15, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie needs to get 70% of the teams rushes this year
and become a load back. He is by far the best RB on the roster and it is time to start using him as such. Ronnie has only had one season in which he had over 50% of the teams rushes and that was ’06.
Ronnie should no longer be injured so he shouldn’t need to split carries. So don’t let him. Make him elite and give him over 300 carries. Then we will see if his averages hold up. Especially since he will be running behind the best OL that the phins have had since he has been here.
by ct1361 on Jun 15, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would agree with that.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jun 15, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're comparing workhorse backs to part-time backs
All those elite backs you just named are the workhorse backs of their teams. If you lightened their loads by 50-100 carries per year I’m sure their yards per touch would be much higher than Browns. Then the two you have tied with him are just like him. Bush has shared carries every year, mainly because he’s a receiving back (3.7 ypc). While Jackson has only been healthy for one year (346 in 2006, around 250 the other 3). I do believe Ronnie could have a good season, but the breakout season we’re waiting for might have to wait till next season with Henne behind the reins. By breakout, I’m talking 1400+ yds, 5-6 ypc, 15-20 TDs. Receiving stats will go down, but that’s acceptable.
by luvs2drnk on Jun 16, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys!! Sparano is the one doing the acceptable stats for the players!
He is the one calling the acceptable stats for this year, on ea player!! Why? cause he wants to win the div again!! and we will. Expectation R high and player r feeling it now!! thats good news!! All the players R saying the same, They need to step it up this year! Theres a sence of urgency, thats GREAT!! We r gona have a hell of a season guys!! Enjoy the ride to the Promise Land!! ; )
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Jun 16, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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