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Around The AFC East: Buffalo Bills

Continuing on with this week's installment of "Around The AFC East" - we turn our attention to Terrell Owens and the Buffalo Bills.  To do that, we welcome in Brian Galliford from Buffalo Rumblings.

Matty I: How concerned are Bills fans right now about Terrell Owens and his potential to be a distraction and cancer in Buffalo?  There's no denying T.O.'s talent - but there's also no denying how he tends to ruin teams.  Are you concerned about this at all?  In particular, are you worried that Owens could really ruin Trent Edwards' psyche if he struggles out of the gate?

Brian G: Honestly, I don't see any reason to be concerned yet.  T.O. is saying and doing all the right things at the moment; perhaps he's buttering everyone up for the big fall later on, but I'm not that cynical.  It has been an absolute circus with him coming into town, but the distraction has been a good one; he's already making plays at OTAs and developing a rapport with Edwards.  I highly doubt you'll hear about many Bills fans being overly worried at this point.

The reality of the situation is that it's a one-year deal.  There is very little risk involved with bringing him in on that type of contract.  The last player that I'm worried about being negatively affected by Owens' presence is Edwards; he may still be trying to iron out consistency and injury issues, and he's obviously got a lot to prove if he wants to be the long-term starter at quarterback, but he's headstrong, very intelligent and has the support of his teammates.  Owens won't change that; what he will do for Edwards is make him a better quarterback.

In the end, however, the ultimate reason that I'm not worried about Owens being a distraction and/or ripping the locker room apart is the presence of head coach Dick Jauron.  Say what you will about the man's game-day decision making, his coaching staff hires, and everything else that makes him one of the most contentious personalities in Buffalo, but the guy just knows how to handle people.  Owens has never played for a coach that goes about his business the way Jauron does.  Will Jauron turn Owens into a do-everything-right choir boy?  Clearly not; the point here is that we don't know how the Jauron/Owens dynamic will play out, which is a step up over Owens walking all over every other coach he's played for.  It's going to be interesting.

My Take: The honeymoon period is in full swing in Buffalo - there's no doubt about that.  There's also no question that I lack knowledge about Dick Jauron's ability to handle people - so I'll trust Brian here.  I'm very interested to see how things play out if/when the Bills begin to struggle - especially if Owens isn't getting the ball as much as he'd like.  Like Brian said, it's going to be interesting - that's for sure.

Head on over to BR to see how I answered Brian's question about Jason Taylor.

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by Alpha6 on May 22, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think teams that grab guys like..

T.O.. Burris.. ect are just asking for trouble. But what do I know?

by MainePhinFan on May 22, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To lump them together is unfair.

T.O. has never been one to go out to clubs or shoot himself or anything off the field. His problem has been his competitive fire. He thinks he is the best player on every team and should always have the ball. Why is it asking for trouble to have a guy who has such a fierce fire that he commands the ball?

Burris, on the other hand, shot himself in the leg. I don’t get the connection.

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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah – i just let that go because didn’t make much sense to me either.

TO – competitive fire – wants to be the best and wants the ball.
Burris – moron with multiple run in’s with the law – shoots self in leg

That right there, MRW, just goes to show you how TO is seen by fans and media types. Lumping him in with guys like Burris is….well….moronic

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whos "Burris" ?

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by Rzayo24 on May 22, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plaxico

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha...

Jeff Burris used to be a DB for the Bills. I just misspelled Plaxico’s last name.

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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i knew :)

deductive reasoning and all……

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See Rz....

There is sufficient evidence from the misspelled words above (at least three) that birds do make nests on peoples heads…..

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by Alpha6 on May 22, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is sufficient evidence from the misspelled words above (at least three) that birds do make nests on peoples heads…..

what does that mean anyways? dodo head? i’m confused (i’m not being sarcastic – never heard that before)

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find this hysterical.

I bet none of you Bills fans were saying these kinds of things about Owens last year. It’s amazing how a new uniform changes your opinion of somebody.

Now – lumping him with Burress is different.

But I will guarantee you that this time last year, you guys weren’t saying T.O. “has such a fierce fire that he commands the ball.”

Nice positive spin on a player that puts himself before the team.

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by Matty I on May 22, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahaa – you clearly have no idea what most of us want.

I wanted Moss before he went to the Pats – I wanted TO – i want Fitzgerald, Boldin – because they make us better.

your waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base – not even on base with that statement hahahahahahahahahaha – wow

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait….

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahaha

i haven’t laughed that hard in a long time – thanks matty

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

still funny…oh man

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give it a rest J2.

We get it. You think he is off base.

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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahahaha – exageration is great comedy – thats why I love family guy

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw – mrw – i never give anything a rest if I feel justified – regardless of circumstance – thanks though

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright nancy...knock it off

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by finsxfactor on May 22, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude that was sooooooo 1 hour and 45 minutes ago :)

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright...um.....titan fighter?

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by finsxfactor on May 22, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t think it was that funny, actually.

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought I was weird – but……. yeeeaaaahhhhhh

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely – thanks for the compliment!

most people don’t get me – thats fair and fine – I have my own humor and go my own way. tahts what makes life fun! be your own person – laugh much and live long. thats my motto

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude i’m all over the place – even I don’t know where i’m going half the time. probably why I digest books like there’s nothing else going on.

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did! thats why I went the exagerration route – I love hearing everyones reasons for why he’s going to bring our team down and yada yada yada.

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey J2, What Kind of Bird is that on Your Head....??

……. oh I know……..

The DoDo Bird!!

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by Alpha6 on May 22, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The DoDo Bird!!

yes i do!

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aww the link didn’t work…… here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Was Hallarious!!!!

I loved it…

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by Alpha6 on May 22, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

never seen that?

I love family guy……

all of the “hahahaha” was directly from family guy. liken when Peter hurts his knee and is always going “ssss ahhhh” “ssss ahhhh” for like 3 minutes straight….

well that was the approach i was taking there – exagerration is great

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don't Know What Planet I've Been On..

But I found Family Guy like a couple months ago, and it’s the first thing I look for on tv now. Funniest thing I’ve ever seen. They do the best exaggerations, and oh, the flash backs are priceless…

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by Alpha6 on May 22, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

I wasn’t saying anything about Owens last year since he wasn’t on my team. There are a lot of things, positive and negative, TO brings to any team he is on. I’m a positive guy, obviously, but I don’t see how anyone could think this is a bad move for the Bills. We had a lackluster offense and WR corps. This instantly upgraded it.

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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Graham thinks so….

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, wait, does that mean you wouldn’t be justifying a T.O. signing if he had happened to land in Miami?

I can almost hear the “his best, a.k.a. least disruptive, year came under Parcells!” lines now.

Justification is something that every fan base does. :)

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I respect you Brian but right there is were you are WROOOOOOOOONG.

Back in the day when the rumors that TO was going to be released began, I wrote a post with a poll and all suggesting the possibility of TO coming to Miami. What was the result? This is what Matty wrote:

good post
should make good debate.

but no – he’s not right for this team. He ruins teams – and is why he only has been on one team to go far in the playoffs (and that was during his "honeymoon period" in philly).

So no thanks.

So as you can see you are wrong when you say we would be justifying a TO signing if he had happened to land in Miami. We are really serious about our codes around here.

by MauMontaV5 on May 22, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for digging that up

I quickly tried to find it but couldn’t.

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by Matty I on May 22, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would venture a guess that roughly 60% of Buffalo’s fan base either scoffed at the notion of T.O.-to-Buffalo, hated the idea outright, or didn’t bother even addressing it with a thought process prior to March 7 simply because it’s the Bills and because it’s T.O. These types of signings NEVER happen in Buffalo. A far smaller percentage – maybe 20-25% – were terrified at the idea of pairing a disruptive force like T.O. with a still-developing Edwards and a head coach that most people don’t like (Jauron).

Now, it’s somewhere between 95% and 99% of Bills fans that are ecstatic that T.O. is in town. You and Matty may have stayed true to your word, but I guarantee you that you would have at least considered getting excited about T.O. lining up next to Ted Ginn with Greg Camarillo and Davone Bess in the slot. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t have, either – that receiving corps would have been devastating.

My point was never that Bills fans were justifying BEFORE he was signed, nor that any fan base justifies beforehand. I feel fairly comfortable claiming that y’all here at The Phinsider would have been far more focused on the Owens/Ginn/Camarillo/Bess lineup than T.O.’s past misdeeds.

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I agree with that, we would've been completely against the FO bringing him in

but as soon as he became a Dolphin we would be looking at the possibilities of him being on the field with Ginn and Henne. But still, we have been so focused for the last year on our rebuilding process development that this kind of move would’ve been philosophically devastating for us and the “here we go again” and “told you so” would have started right away. But yeah I understand you guys, after all TO is with out a doubt a great player on the field.

by MauMontaV5 on May 22, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

after all TO is with out a doubt a great player on the field.

red’d!

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

na just here for right now – about to do some actual “work”

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

work? not sure ;)

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But still, we have been so focused for the last year on our rebuilding process development that this kind of move would’ve been philosophically devastating for us and the "here we go again" and "told you so" would have started right away.

That’s a really excellent point – we’re a bit further along in the re-building process, this being our fourth year with Jauron, while y’all are in year two with Tuna/Ireland/Sparano. Very good point, and it perhaps explains a bit of the desperation behind why we’re so pleased with the Owens signing. Rebuilding be damned – we’ve been doing it since 1999, basically. Let’s just win some games! :)

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. I agree with you, Buffalo right now is on a different state of mind

than the Phins, specially since the coaching staff job security is shaky and the “moving away” thing. Last year you had an amazing start to the season before Edwards went down, and this season with Edwards healthy and Lee Evans plus the addition of Owens it for sure means an excellent “Win now” strategy, specially since Owens is only signed for one year and historically he starts giving trouble until a bit later. We’ll see, I just hope you guys go back to being as competitive as you were the first half of last season, because that first game in Dolphin Stadium was one of my favorites of all season.

by MauMontaV5 on May 22, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

just hope you guys go back to being as competitive as you were the first half of last season,

thanks! rec’d! and we agree!

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, Codes Mau?

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by Alpha6 on May 22, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well.....

….of course every fan base does it. But there’s a fine line between justifying the move and defending Owens. I think it’s a complete joke to write off Owens’ past acts as him just being “competitive” and having a “fire.”

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by Matty I on May 22, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That I’ll agree with. Sorry, Matt, but that is optimistic to the point of delusion. Buffalo’s coaching staff has no delusions about the situation – they’re excited, but they know they’re gambling with the riskiest player in the league – and our fan base shouldn’t be delusional either.

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And when I say “Sorry, Matt”, I mean Rumblings’ Matt, not Phinsider’s Matt.

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was never delusional about it.

I never said he was going to be the savior for his attitude. I said his TDs will make him a savior. In defending T.O. against a friggin Plaxico comparison I said this.

T.O. has never been one to go out to clubs or shoot himself or anything off the field. His problem has been his competitive fire. He thinks he is the best player on every team and should always have the ball. Why is it asking for trouble to have a guy who has such a fierce fire that he commands the ball?

How is any of that delusional?

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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol really...thats kinda funny...ask

mcnabb
garcia
romo

if t.o is just a “fierce fire”

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by finsxfactor on May 22, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he opens his mouth....

Did he carry a gun illegaly? Did he get caught smoking pot or anything like that? His competitive nature makes him say a lot of stupid stuff but he’s not a criminal like Plax.

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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but heres the thing. as a dolphin fan im pulling for him to start freaking out

when he realizes that edwards is nothing more than a syphilitic donkey

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by finsxfactor on May 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said he did things the right way.

My comment was not a defense of T.O. Jim Kelly, the greatest QB ever to play in the AFC East, said he’s glad someone like that is in the locker room. Someone needs to bring the intensity. For the things Trent or Jauron bring neither of them are a fiery, vocal leader.

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by MattRichWarren on May 23, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol you lose credability….and you wont get it back intill you realize your epic tony romo-esque error

…cant figure out…didnt expect you too….lol …dude wdf

Jim Kelly, the greatest QB ever to play in the AFC East

we know Marino is…and theres no rational reason to think other wise…

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by finsxfactor on May 23, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda figured someone would pick up on that.

I mean, Jim didn’t have any cameos in major motion pictures that I know of, but he was still a pretty good QB. I will give Marino credit. He is number 2.

I give Kelly the credit for calling his own plays and his success in the playoffs. Neither won a Super Bowl so you can’t use that. Marino has a lot of regular season records but honestly the best QBs are made in the playoffs. Joe Montana is simply an above-average QB when you look just at his regular season stats right?

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by MattRichWarren on May 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but stating kelly is number 1 as marino is number 2 is just plain gobbledygook

marino was the best to play the game. every single week he gave the offense what no other qb in the history of the game has ever. I understand you wanting to proclaim kelly as the best due to plain homerism…but quite frankly marino made defensive coordinators shit their pants…he wasnt the fastest but he was probably to most agile in avoiding defenders and had that nontarnishable laser rocket arm…

just plain awesome

jim kelly was good, no doubt there, but comparing him to marino and saying he is better

is like saying

whoopie goldberg is hotter than megan fox…

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by finsxfactor on May 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it's not that bad....

comparing the kelly to Marino is like saying Megan Fox is hotter than Elisha Cuthbert.

Would you turn either away?

And I still go with Elway over both of them but that might just be me. All of this is highly debatable. There will never be one solid answer.

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by MattRichWarren on May 25, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

elway won because he had a good team

marino was the team. have you even watched them play?

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by finsxfactor on May 25, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll put in my 2 cents here on TO and B-lo

Being stuck in mediocracy for – well – 10 years makes me LOVE this acquisition. There are many reasons:

1) As Brian points out – DJ could very well be the right guy to handle TO – but since I have no idea – i’m not counting on him being able to do this – but I also don’t think TO is as big a deal as most people say.

2) We WILL find out what we have in Edwards. Think about it – we have Lee Evans, Josh Reed (amazing in the slot – glad, no EXCITED his not our #2 WR and he’s back in the slot where he belongs -watch out for him) and our own Roscoe or Steve Johnson who are excellent 4th receivers. He also has Lynch, Jackson, Rhodes which are all very good runners and catch the ball very well. Our TE in Nelson will give him matchup problems for LB or S’s so he will help Trent as well.
Bottom line – Trent has many many weopans – if he can’t get it done with this group then he may never get it done – so at least we’re going to find out this season if he’s the real deal or if we need to draft a QB next year.

3) It shows that they are trying something different to try and WIN. Us fans usually clamor for a playmaker/game changer that we never seem to get. So they went out and got a proven playmaker/game changer. Bare minimum – he will open up things for Lee. Just having him on the field makes us better – i ’m certain of that.

4) chances are if we bomb this year the whole program gets blown up anyways – TO is NOT such a big of a cancer that he woudl make us a 4 or 5 win team. we’ll do that as a TEAM.

I also think that TO’s stunts have gotten way over blown and we’ve seen that already for us Bills. People just like him as a topic – which is fine – we get media attention and all sorts of national exposure which is nice for Buffalo.

I really don’t see any downfalls to this signing – none at all – i’ve been watching the Bills since 1988. I"ve watched all the suck of hte last decade – this doesn’t make me wince or cringe at all. It makes me happy that we have legitimate threats on our offense

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m very interested to see how things play out if/when the Bills begin to struggle

LOL – Matty, the “if/” part of that sentence is appreciated.

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it will be

interesting to see our defensive rotation when we play these guys. We could have our hands full if we give Edwards anytime to throw the ball.

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by Phintastic on May 22, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Terrell Owens didn't walk all over Bill Parcells.

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by joel311 on May 22, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed. That he didn’t. That was Parcell’s last year in Dallas, and far more relevantly, it was Owens’ first in Dallas. Owens is generally issue-free in first seasons.

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait to see the first game that Edwards misses TO a few times

and hits Lee Evans in stride with a deep ball. The sideline fireworks will be fun.

There’s no way you can say that TO isn’t a great WR, but I think he brings too many negatives to the table to just be “the savior” here. He drops A LOT of passes. He creates problems with the coach and QB with his constant bitching about getting the ball. You can spin that any way you want, but it’s a distraction. Yeah, it sounds good to say “we have a guy that is so competitive, and wants to win so bad, that he demands the ball on every play.” I think it sounds better to have a guy that understands his role, and makes the play when the opportunity presents itself. It doesn’t help to demand the ball when you’re double teamed, and your teammate is wiiiide open. Or to cry about some conspiracy because your QB throws a bunch of passes to the stud TE.

I say the honeymoon lasts until his first “throw me the ball” press conference.

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 22, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats fair and common arguement against TO on the Bills – which I for one welcome.

see you on Oct 4th

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is certainly possible.

But if TO scores TDs, he will be the savior no matter how many drops he has. Our #2 WR last year had one TD. It’s a pretty fair assumption that T.O. will beat that and improve our offense, press conference or not.

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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say the honeymoon lasts until his first "throw me the ball" press conference.

Nah – I think it’s pretty typical for fans to agree with him the first time he does one of those. After that, though… :)

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by Brian Galliford on May 22, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to burst the Bills bubble, but my gut tells me TO is going to tear this teams morale to bits by mid-season. Look at his seasons with The Eagles and The Cowboys, he may not have beat the Eagles up the way he did Dallas, but many times he’d have to sit out the game due to starting a fist fight at the coin toss (I happen to be a Falcons fan for the years Wanstat demolished Miami, so I would know his outbreaks on the field) Hes acted like a five year old who didnt get thier way through the past few seasons, I doubt moving to Buffalo will change him.

TO’s a talented player, his stats show that, but a team wont amount to anything unless they play as a TEAM, Miami’s the biggest proof of that…I just dont see TO being able to put his personal motives aside to accomplish that for the Bills.

by Liz Addict on May 22, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Eagles and The Cowboys, he may not have beat the Eagles up the way he did Dallas

well..do you remember the Super Bowl with the Eagles when he had a broken leg and almost won them the game? these are the types of things I want in a player.

plus – our “team” hasn’t exactly done anything without playmakers – now this changes. Its a different philosophy. we have what you would call our core “team” – and went 7-9 against the sisters of the poor last year. now we add weopans and playmakers to get us over the hump. if it doesn’t work out, it won’t be TO – it’ll be the team – as you point out. I think that point gets lost a lot – TO isn’t going to take the Bills down – the team will if it isn’t good enough on Offense, defense and special teams – he just gives us more of a chance to do this.

  BTW – your not bursting our bubble – pretty much any read over at NFL, ESPN, sportsillustrated, CBS sports, foxsports has already covered this ad nauseum.

another btw – nice first post! welcome to the blog – head over to buffalorumblings.com

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw – weopans is a great inside joke…i know its weapons :)

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by J2 on May 22, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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