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Vegas showing Dolphins disrespect too

A few weeks ago, I wrote a post about how the early take on the 2009 Dolphins was that they weren't being shown much respect in the media.  Well it seems as though the bookmakers in Las Vegas are taking a page from the media.  The Dolphins 2009 over/under for wins has been set at just seven - a full four games fewer than last season.

Meanwhile, the bookmakers set the Jaguars over/under - a team that won just five games in 2008 - at eight, a game better than the Dolphins.  The Browns, who won only four games last year, have had their over/under set at the same thing as the Dolphins - seven.  In fact, only six teams have a lower over/under than the Dolphins. 

So what we've learned here is that the bookmakers think the Dolphins are the seventh worst team in the NFL.

The love fest for the Patriots, however, continues - with their over/under being set at 11.5, the highest figure for any team.

Just more fuel to add to the fire for the defending AFC East Champions, I suppose.  I've said all along I love being the underdog.  Clearly, despite last season's amazing turnaround, the underdog role is exactly the role the 2009 Dolphins will be in once again.

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I guess betting on the Dolphins will make you more money this year, we will definitely win more than eight games.

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by Heater OsE on May 21, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I winz!!!

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by Heater OsE on May 21, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

1st!!!

and screw the bookies…whoever bets over on the Dolphins will be making money…end of story

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on May 21, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

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by Heater OsE on May 21, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Let Rz Bet on the Dolphins....

Not with his luck in gambling.

I remember even in the Marino years, the over/under wasn’t respectful. Maybe it’s time to use our team to make some money….

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by Alpha6 on May 21, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Please tell me...

How can I place a bet besides going to Vegas?

by NC Mike on May 21, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

you!!

can find a local bookie

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by dolfan702 on May 21, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But be careful...

If the movies have taught us anything, it’s that bookies will be greedy and will try to collect on debts in a matter of hours.

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by ocelotfox on May 21, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

find an online sportsbook…i place all my bets online man. i use sportsinteraction

by dlux2561 on May 21, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm glad

you asked that. i don’t know anywhere to bet in nc. not really a gambling mecca.

by ncfinfan on May 21, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude...

they act like the dolphins is the miami wildcats or something..
thats all they see in us thats why..
all my friends say the teams are ready for that this year…
but thats not out offence..
ronnie didnt rush for almost 1k off the wildcat and ricky wasnt really involved
in the wild cat to run for 700+
what a rediculous choice to think where gonna do worse..
we got a way way better defence and a way more organized offence..
so stfu friends and media
haha
=]

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by dolfan702 on May 21, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

well said

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by finsxfactor on May 21, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's fine with me i'll take being the underdog anyday

the lack of respect just makes you wanna kill somebody when it’s time to perform on the field and that my friends is a great motivator for winning games!

Hey Matty these high prediction for low ranked teams, might they be an outcome from our own spectacular season last year? are all the bookies now going…“hey….we might could make some money by actually convincing people that the lions might go 8 games this year!” lol or perhaps it’s just a higher over all expectation for team turn around on crappy seasons combined with our tougher schedule?

just food for thought.

by Ex Sniper on May 21, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

that's what I figure

it’s all about creating bets on both sides, so the house comes out on top no matter what.

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 21, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

True Story

I mean seriously….its VEGAS. You gotta do take them with an extreme grain of salt, there out for themselves and no one else really.

by Ex Sniper on May 21, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the odds?

…if I put $100 on the over???

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by Lexsterama on May 21, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

any updates on wade lol...im getting really concerned now

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by finsxfactor on May 21, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad Fins are underrated

I don’t bet (I used to, however, until the Broncos burned me once too often!).

Much if not most of the disrespect by the media is based on Miami going 11-5 with the easiest schedule last year, combined with the fact that many of the wins against poor record teams (I wouldn’t call them weak, however) were by 5 pts or less. I also think a lot of media pundits believe Chad P will have one of his “odd” years—in 2003, 2005, and 2007 he didn’t play particularly well.

Further, the love given to the Pats is due to the return of Brady, who they think can play no wrong, his throwing to Moss and Welker, who they think can can and route run no wrong, combined with the misconception that the Pats went 11-5 not only with a second stringer, but on a much more difficult schedule. Horse hockey! the ONLY difference between Miami’s scedule and the Pats was the Pats played the Steelers and Colts—losing both if memory serves!—while the Fins played Texans and Ravens, also losing both! So really, what is the difference in schedules? the Pats beat the Cards, but the Fins beat the Chargers—which turned out to be the reason Miami, not NE, made the playoffs.

The FACT is this: sports pundits and Vegas bookies HATE it when a team (Miami) goes beyond all their expectations while another team in the same division (NE) falls below their expectations. Since the beyond expectations makes them look like idiots, they MUST get back at the team that makes them look like idiots, the following year.

Players have egos (said Jason Taylor in a video at Sun Sentinel), but so do sports pundits and Vegas bookies. But players should have egos. the others have them because they don’t have to suffer the consequences when their egos explode on them.

And it’s been a LONG time since the Dolphins had the respect they deserved (1973 maybe?)

by snorky on May 21, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that the bookmakers should do something else with their lives

Like go play ping pong or something

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by rangerjae on May 21, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Matty

To be honest, I disagree with your saying that we can take this as Vegas saying we’re the 7th worst team in the NFL – sure, seven wins for an over/under is crap. But those odds are surely based more on our schedule and the fact that the AFC East as a whole got better: every single team did.

I mean, you may just be simplifying the o/u they set, or more directly, our record as a whole, to equate the record they expect us to get with power rankings in the NFL.

Or, put in a non-confusing way, you might just be figuring record correlates directly with your position in the NFL in terms of “rankings”. I don’t see it as such, and I don’t know necessarily that you do. I mean, it’s a simple way of looking at things of course, and record is by far the most important gauge in the NFL. Wins and losses mean everything.

I however don’t equate being set as the seventh worse o/u as meaning Vegas sees as as the seventh-worst team. It just means they’re fully aware of how difficult our schedule truly is.

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by Dave.Phuller on May 21, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I see your point.

But I don’t believe in “power rankings” or a college BCS kind of deal where strength of schedule plays a role.

You are only as good as your record – no matter how hard or easy your schedule is. At least, that’s my personal feelings.

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by Matty I on May 21, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which I can understand,

and is an equally valid point. I just can’t see it as so cut and dry.

If Miami were to actually win only eight games this season, maybe even only seven..I wouldn’t consider them any worse than last season. I might even see them as a better team overall, depending obviously on how they play: which players step up, which, if any, regress, how each of our starters performs statistically, etc. Too many factors for me to see it so cut-and-dry.

But you are right; no matter how good an argument I could make for that point, it is all about your record.

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by Dave.Phuller on May 21, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefull wade can win money so he can get internet back again

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by finsxfactor on May 21, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not about how much Vegas respects us

it’s about the right number to try and split the bets evenly. It’s more about the betting public disrespecting Miami. Because as far as I understand it, they set the over/under at a number that encourages roughly the same amount of bets on both sides, meaning the bookie wins no matter what. If they set the over/under for Miami at 11, MOST of the bets would be on the under, and the probability of the bookie/casino paying out more than they brought in would be pretty high. There’s no way a casino will risk losing money, so the number goes down until the betting is about split.

I’d say 7 is a great number, just because we know we should win at least 8-9, and the dirty Pats/Jets fans that are keeping that number low with their predictions of 4 or 5, will just lose a ton of money.

btw, give me the under on NE, the Jets, and the Bills lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 21, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

so truly...

it’s really just reflecting what we already now…the infatuation the media has on the patsies and the lack of respect for us in Miami….shocker. (does not put a box as he carefully crafted this statement for sarcasm :D )

by Ex Sniper on May 21, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

let them hate

We’ll give them the proverbial finger this year

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by Patssuck456 on May 21, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Odds to win AFC East, according to sportsbook.com:

New England -400
Buffalo +600
NY Jets +700
Miami +1000(WTF?!)

So, the Dolphins are considered to be a “longshot” to win the East. Just to put things in perspective, only the Lions have longer odds to win their division, at +1500 to win the NFC North.

Simply put, I just dropped $50 on the Phins to win the division. Bet $50 to win $500? You bet your ass I will.

by rroan28 on May 22, 2009 3:06 AM EDT reply actions  

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