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3 Up and 3 Down

This is the first of what I hope to be a weekly feature here at The Phinsider throughout the remainder of the offseason.  The idea is simple - I'll tackle some Dolphin-related topic and give my thoughts on it by focusing on three positives and three negatives.

To kick things off today, I have picked a topic that is sure to at least generate a little debate.

THREE OFFSEASON MOVES I LIKED

1. Focusing on the secondary - Last offseason, the Dolphins focused on improving the lines on both sides of the ball.  This offseason, with the team's most glaring weakness being the secondary, the Dolphins went and addressed it even before the official beginning of free agency be signing safety Gibril Wilson and teaming him with Yeremiah Bell, who the Fins re-signed the same day.  They then brought in Eric Green from Arizona (who I hope doesn't have to be anything more than a 3rd or 4th corner) and selected two cornerbacks in the first two rounds of the NFL Draft - including one of my favorite players, Sean Smith.  While I wouldn't expect huge contributions from the two rookies - Smith and Vontae Davis - in 2009, I do think that both will see plenty of action and improve the overall depth of the secondary.

2. The return of Jason Taylor - It goes without saying that all Dolphin fans love this guy - or at least, they used to.  And the way Taylor's return to Miami went down really makes it hard to hold any hard feelings towards JT.  He has come in, said all the right things, accepted whatever his role in Miami will be, and has made it clear that his heart has always been in Miami - even last year while playing up in DC.  Now let's just hope that Taylor's return to Miami is the beginning of a storybook ending for a South Florida sports icon.

3. Declaring Chad Pennington the 2009 starter - One of the most hotly debated topics this offseason began with Tony Sparano informing the media in the wake of the playoff loss to Baltimore that Chad Pennington was his guy and would be the starter entering 2009.  I know we all love competitions and we all are hoping and praying that Chad Henne becomes the franchise quarterback this franchise has longed for since a certain #13 retired.  But I can't help but love how Tony Sparano and this coaching staff came right out and were honest and up front rather than holding a mockery of a "quarterback competition" like we might have seen from previous regimes in Miami.  Pennington put together an MVP-type season in '08 and declaring him the starter heading into '09 was the right thing to do.

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THREE OFFSEASON MOVES I QUESTION

1. Not adding enough interior offensive line help - It's easy to say this now following the latest injury to Donald Thomas, who was expected to start at right guard this year.  But I felt this way even before Thomas went down.  While I'm a fan of signing Jake Grove because he is an upgrade over Samson Satele, he also has a history of missing games due to injury.  Meanwhile, Thomas and Justin Smiley were both entering the 2009 offseason with serious health issues.  But despite having three starters at guard and center who have injury questions and/or injury histories, the Dolphins traded away Satele - instead of keeping him for depth at center and guard - and brought in just one veteran - Joe Berger - and failed to draft a single guard in the draft.  And it's easy to say this now after Donald's latest injury, but you can't tell me the Dolphins wouldn't be in better shape right now if they had taken Duke Robinson rather than Brian Hartline or John Nalbone.

2. Not adding a potential long-term nose tackle - I know that the Dolphins signed undrafted free agent Louis Ellis.  But I can't say that I wouldn't have preferred acquiring a young veteran or drafting a more highly-touted prospect like Terrance Taylor or Sammie Lee Hill.  The 3-4 defense will not work without a quality nose tackle so now we have to hope that the aging Jason Ferguson can stay healthy and that either Louis Ellis, Paul Soliai, or Joe Cohen can give Jason a breather at times and could step in as a full-time player if absolutely necessary.

3. Signing Eric Green and passing on slightly more expensive options - Above I said I loved how the Dolphins made it a priority to upgrade their secondary.  But I did make it a point to say that I hope Eric Green doesn't have a big role.  Simply put, I am not confident at all in his ability.  But the Dolphins signed Green to a 2 year, $6 million deal.  For the same amount of years and $2 million extra per year, the Fins could have signed Bryant McFadden.  Instead, he went to Arizona - Green's former team.  I can't sit here and say I'm not a little disappointed in this decision.  But I'll hope for the best.

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I agree with tthe Green thing

but when you put in perspective how much worse our negatives could be, that list aint to shabby.

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by Rytackle on May 21, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not at all

And personally, I don’t look down upon the Green signing nearly as much as a lot of people do. I truly believe he, as well as Will Allen, will be contributing to the growth and development of our two young studs.

And, unlike a lot of people, I think he does have the potential to find some of the talent and ability he seemingly “lost” last season. Honestly, if he does win the starting position, it just means he’s worthy of that position and we should be glad to have the problem we do have: having two veterans and two highly-tauted prospects vying for our starting CB positions.

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by Dave.Phuller on May 21, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you forgot to yoddle First!!!

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by finsxfactor on May 21, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no he didn't

he’s just not annoying lol

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by Matty I on May 21, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol i know the truth matty..no need to feel sad or anything

because the husker rule is in effect you cant call “First” on your own posts…thus you are inelligable to post “First” on Autoblogs…and thats fine…if you want we can bend the rules..(just for you buddy) and have “Wacky Wednesday” in which Husker Rule is not in effect for autoblogs

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by finsxfactor on May 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

from time to time

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by finsxfactor on May 21, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the secondary upgrading

but I hope JT has a limited role on passing situations only allowing the team to further evaluate the LBing long term situation prior to next yrs draft and having JT playing all downs would hinder this process

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by Blaze453 on May 21, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whats up Blaze

haven’t seen you in a while, hpoe everything is good:>)


 
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by uncle finster on May 21, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn’t disagree more about Green. I don’t know much about him but yes I do have to trust the fact that the front office did their homework on the guy and they must like some things about him. When I saw that he was #1 on the depth chart that tells me all I need to know. It lets me know that they have some respect for his game and with the contract that he did receive, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. And the guy is looking to make a name for himself so I can’t wait to see how it turns out. I like the move because we’re not really locked in to one player and with the rookies, the future looks pretty bright.

I also slightly disagree that it was a good idea to name Pennington the starter. I know what they were trying to do in lessening any controversy but I believe that it will be a competition and Henne may beat him out. Why not leave it open just like any other position?

Either way, its pretty hard not to like anything that they did this offseason. Its been great.

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by AussieKen on May 21, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I couldnt disagree more with your Pennington argument.

1- Like many of us have stated for a couple of days now, this team is obviously looking towards the future, however, it is also heavily built to win NOW. Thats why the brought G Wilson and Jake G and resigned Crowder, Bell and Carey, not to mention the recent addition of Jason Taylor. Ronnie should be ready to go 100% and Ricky fully acquainted now, plus a really promising O-Line and a D-Line with both DE being proven 2nd year players. QB? I guess the runner up for the league’s MVP and 9 year veteran gives you the best chance to win.
2-
a) This also gives Henne the chance to be in Learning Mode since the beginning of the offseason and through training camp. To really focus on his development and keep working with the amazing QB Coach we have instead of being all nervous and worrying about throwing interceptions and making mistakes.
b) With last year’s mediocre at best schedule, Henne probably would’ve had a good chance to get some playing time against teams like St.Louis, 2nd Buffalo, Kansas City, the Raiders and the Seahawks. He would’ve seen very little pressure in the pocket and mediocre secondaries. However, this year you would be throwing him to the wolves. And since developing into a successful QB in the NFL is 90% mental, you dont want Henne being beaten around and intercepted all game with CP10 waiting in the bench to come in (think Kurt Warner when he replaced Matt Leinart in the middle of the season).
3- Finally, making clear that CP10 is their guy, gives a chance to both the players and the coaches to plan around Pennington. This is a huge advantage for the rookie receivers and second year guys like Bess and even more for a young and new O-Line since they have the opportunity since the beginning of the offseason to get to know their QB thinks on the field and how he reacts to different situations since CP10 is going to be getting most of the snaps when the time comes. I cant imagine the guys form Cleveland the hell they are going through right now.

by MauMontaV5 on May 21, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

And even though CP10 is a class act who cares about winning, he’s still in a contract year. Most players do well in contract years so they can cash in.

by mikey2380 on May 21, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very Good argument.

You obviously put much thought into it. All that you wrote may be true unless, of course, Henne is simply the best player. If thats the case you throw his azz in there.

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by AussieKen on May 21, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No debate here, 100% agreement

The 3 moves you question, are my top 3, now without Satele, we have to hope JD Quinn is a diamond in the “rude”, or that Murphy, Berger or Ndukwe can step it up.


 
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by uncle finster on May 21, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice sig

Haven’t posted in a while, but man is that a nice quote on the signature.

William Munney was a great character. I think I might have to put that movie on tonight.

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by Patrick Bateman79 on May 21, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

Clint has made a lot of westerns, and Unforgiven is probably the best, it’s one of my favorite movies:>)


 
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by uncle finster on May 22, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Secondary

I like the additions to the secondary, just hoping Green can be a good stop gap while the newbies come up to speed. As for CP10, i would take the chance and resign the guy, Class act and plays pretty decently. Need a QB that doesnt make the mental errors to take you to the big dance, and CP10 is that guy(minus B’more game). Make Henne/White earn the chance to start.

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by Phintastic on May 21, 2009 4:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree on All

How can you not have Pennington Start? Just think about it, would any other team bench their QB after an NFL MVP runner-up season to go with a 2nd year guy? I don’t think so, unless there is an injury.

Let Pennington start, and get us in a good flow. Then if Henne definitely is better, let him come in and take some snaps in the game. I think Henne will be good, but no sense tossing him out to be destroyed by some of the toughest defenses in the league.

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by gatorfin on May 21, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Would any other team tell Jason Taylor up front

that he might not make the team?

Just think about it, this regime isn’t any other team, nor would I want them to be.

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by joel311 on May 22, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O-Line can never be too deep.

Couldn’t agree more on all points, just wanted to point out how pissed I was when I saw us pass on Duke “Road Grader” Robinson for a TE. Last time I checked didn’t we already have Fasano and I have great faith we will resign him after this season.

by Bluechips85 on May 21, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice job Matty...

i love the fact that i agree with you more often than not…….makes your an my life a lot easier lol.

I agree on Green….McFadden is a very nice player. He isnt a star…but he is a much better player than Green IMO….and he didnt get THAT much more money.

NT…i guess i do kinda disagree here…i believe phase 3 of building through the draft will include the top NT we can get next yr. We are ok this yr…and who knows what pops up. Maybe there is a free agent avail. next offseason? i dunno who is gonna be in the draft…but im sure they will be on our radar.

I dunno why we would rely on a late rd pick that has 1 quarter of NFL experiance under his belt….i agree that was a bad idea. i do think we have plenty of guys that can step up though

CP10 is the starter……get a grip people. If things so south…..Henne and White will play i guarantee…is there a young QB who has EVER BEEN ruined because he sat and learned TOO LONG? i cant think of one…..he should be here 10 years if he is as good as we think…so chillax.

great idea…great article…

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by Rzayo24 on May 21, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rzayo24

is there still a chance some team releases a nt before season starts, say we pick up put on practice sq. or something 4 insurance

by wild zion beaver on May 24, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude i love it

but there is still some time to correct the negatives…so we shall see

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on May 21, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well Said.

Other than the CP thing, i am on board with everything else. I’m luke warm about CP being declared the starter – in itself, that has pros and cons.

But as for the “3 down” – these have been my concerns as well. I was really hoping we would get lucky and Brace would fall to us in the draft. I was ranking NT only a notch below our secondary needs, and certainly above WR.

While I am slightly less concerned about the o-line, partly because our main need is guard and that is the easiest position to plug someone in to, you are right – if Grove goes down, we’re screwed. One good thing to note: When we had Berger before, Houck thought he had a lot of potential, and we tried to sneak him onto our practice squad (IIRC), so he might actually be a pretty good pickup. And if Smiley and Thomas make it back 100%, we will have decent depth at ever position but center.

Green – ugh! I hope he develops, but I was muttering the same blasphemes against the Triad when they didn’t grab Bodden or McFadden. Either one would have been a clear upgrade over Green. While McFadden was a little pricey, Bodden was just over 2M for the year. While I don’t implicitly “trust” all of the Triad’s moves (pronounced Wil-Ford), I do give them the benefit of the doubt until we can see how everything shapes up int TC.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This has to be the truest story of them all.

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I take the leash that's leading me
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by Patssuck456 on May 21, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EXCELLENT Feature to Make One Think..!

I agree with the post, both positive and negative, but I add my HOPE for the one position… that of Nose Tackle.

     Paul Soliai, at 6’4 and 355 pounds, has the bulk/mass to be an effective nose tackle, and he really did look like he was coming on strong late in the season – providing a surprising push up the middle. He made a big play in the Ravens playoff game… forced a fumble which Joey Porter recovered.

It’ll be interesting to see Soliai during training camp. He has the potential to be every bit as good a nose tackle as Jason Ferguson. But he has to mature and gain consistency. His base salary is meager, especially when compared to others on the defensive line, so he’s going to get every chance possible to prove himself.

     Louis Ellis is a physically talented lineman who was an outstanding small school player. His weight listings go from 293lbs to 325lbs, so I’m not sure what he weights, though I heard the team has asked him to shed a few pounds. From what I’ve read, he’s quick, powerful, and able to push defenders. He’s consistently doubled by opponents, and has a nice first step.

His big knock is he doesn’t consistently play with a sense of urgency.

No doubt he has the talent and skills. If he gets some maturity and does what is necessary to become a better football player, he could be a major contributor to the Dolphins. So I’m HOPEFUL these two will provide not only the relief Jason needs during games, but will become longer term.

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by Alpha6 on May 21, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The 5th Round

Duke Robinson fell to the 5th round, so other clubs passed on him too. Having said that, with your 2 starting guards coming off season ending injuries, Robinson represented both great value and need in the 5th round. Why take a small school TE instead in that instance? I know Ireland and Parcells are paid the big bucks, but I don’t get it. It seemed like a “no brainer” to me.

by NJING on May 21, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Something has to be wrong...

…about Duke Robinson for a ‘consensus best’ at his position prospect to fall all the way to the fifth round. Nobody’s asking the question why. Maybe sneak down a round from his projected round but not all the way down to the fifth. Miami did not do that single-handedly.

by Marc D on May 21, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's the way I see it too..

why did so many teams pass on him multiple times? He was being projected as a first rounder by some people (a mistake, because guards don’t go in round 1, but still shows the respect he got in the draft world) so to drop all the way to the 5th and be an afterthought for most teams really…

The only thing I can come up with is that he got by on size and brute strength in college, and his tape exposed poor technique and a guy who would probably be another dominant-doormat draft pick..

I still would’ve liked to pick up some OL depth though, even if it wasn’t Robinson.

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 21, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is not the end all...

Just look at the quips about Vontae Davis on this page (“Just like his brother”…“Did he cheat on the Wonderlic?”), but the scouts’ quotes on Duke Robinson suggest that he’s got a lot of work to do as opposed to being a sure thing Week One rookie starter:

3. DUKE ROBINSON Oklahoma 6-5 330 5.34 2-3
Three-year starter at LG. “He is one of the few power guards in this draft,” San Francisco personnel director Trent Baalke said. “He’s coming off a year in which he was plagued by an ankle injury. His inconsistency on film, his inability to dominate on a consistent basis, is a concern. If he decides he wants to be a pro, then he’s got a good chance to develop.” Appears to tire and then takes downs off. Frequently overextends in protection. “He’s not fat,” one scout said. “He’s a terrific athlete who had a great year as a junior. He’s not real bright.” Grew up in the toughest sections of Atlanta. Doesn’t fit teams with a zone-blocking scheme. “He’s completely overrated,” another scout said. “They rotate him in and out of there. He’s huge and has some athletic ability, but he’s out of control. He doesn’t move his feet. He falls on the ground all the time. He’s lazy. He’s a mess.”

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The Dolphins have enough young OL prospects on the roster but I think they’ll look at available veterans after June 1st which isn’t far off anymore.

by Marc D on May 21, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, something stinks about the Duke Robinson non-draft...

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by Alpha6 on May 21, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pat White!!!!!

The dolphins basically leased Jason Taylor to the Redskins for a year and got Pat White as compensation. That is the best move of the whole offseason.

Parcell’s played Dan Snyder for the fool he is!

by CardsDefense on May 21, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

could have gotten better center

you mentioned could have spent a little more and gotten better than green. could have spent a little more and gotten the younger stronger center from baltimore. .

by virginiafinfan on May 21, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Green blah blah blah

Grove blah blah blah

I can’t wait for the season to start so we can stop hearing about this crap.

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by joel311 on May 22, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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