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Top ten offseason acquisitions to be most excited for

With OTAs officially getting underway on Tuesday down in Davie, I figured now would be a good time to talk about which "new" Dolphins we are all most excited about.  And I swear that I had this idea planned for today for a week or two - before Rzayo24's fanpost on the topic.  But since his thread got hijacked, for the most part, I don't see any reason for me to skip this post.

So below are the top 10 "new" Dolphins I'm most excited for.  After reading my list, share your list with us.

10) DE Tony McDaniel
McDaniel was acquired from Jacksonville in mid-March for a 7th round draft pick.  He's a huge player, measuring in at 6'7, 310 pounds.  While he could play anywhere along the defensive line, his combination of height and weight makes him an ideal 3-4 defensive end.  He'll likely factor into Miami's defensive line rotation, possibly filling the void left by the released Vonnie Holliday.  McDaniel's agent said when the Dolphins traded for him that Miami "got a steal."  It'll be interesting to see if that is indeed the case.

9) S Chris Clemons
The Dolphins spent a 5th round pick on this safety from Clemson.  Clemons is a very athletic safety.  At the Scouting Combine in February, he turned in the fastest time among safeties in the 40 yard dash (4.41 seconds).  His 37.5" vertical leap was the 4th best among safeties and he benched 225 pounds 19 times - 7 more than the first safety selected in the draft (Louis Delmas).  Clemons also was a standout in shorts at the team's rookie camp.  He'll be a player to keep an eye on when the pads go on in training camp.

8) WR Patrick Turner
The Dolphins opened up their day two festivities on draft weekend by selecting this former USC wide receiver with their 3rd round pick.  It was a pick met with a lot of criticism - especially from those so-called "draft experts."  But Turner is 6'5, 223 pounds with 33" arms.  He will likely be looked upon to become the Dolphins receiving redzone threat.  His 10 touchdowns in 2008 at USC bode well for his potential in this role in Miami.  But I'm anxious to see if he is indeed able to create separation against NFL corners - especially considering he struggled doing so at the collegiate level.

7) DE/OLB Cameron Wake
Back in January, the Dolphins signed "this guy from the CFL" and it went unnoticed for most of the country.  But in Miami and in Canada, fans and analysts alike raved about Cameron Wake's potential.  The two-time CFL Defensive Player of the Year, who tallied 39 sacks in 2 seasons, will be asked to convert to outside linebacker and will likely have one major role - getting to the quarterback.  He's got an explosive first step and knows how to get after the signal caller.  But how will he transition to the NFL level while learning what is essentially a new position?

6) C Jake Grove
The signing of Grove back in March really created some arguments among Dolphin fans.  But we've since learned that Grove is a much stronger player than former center Samson Satele and he has performed very well against the bigger nose tackles that he has faced.  And that's exactly why he was brought in here - to help block guys like Vince Wilfork and Kris Jenkins and to help open running lanes for Miami's talented backs.  If he can stay healthy, I think Grove will prove all the naysayers wrong.

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5) QB Pat White
I simply can't recall a single Dolphins player who has created the kind of buzz - both locally among Dolphin fans and nationally among general football fans - that Pat White has created in Miami since the Dolphins made White the 44th overall selection in the draft back in April.  We have no real clue yet from the coaches about their plans for White - and we likely won't know anything for sure until we see it in the regular season.  But what we do know is that White is a proven "winner" and is an exciting football player - no matter where he lines up on the field.

4) S Gibril Wilson
When the Dolphins signed Wilson back in February, many thought that meant the end of Yeremiah Bell in Miami.  Little did we know that this regime planned to use Wilson at free safety and to team him up with Bell - who the Fins re-signed later that day - creating perhaps the most physical safety tandem in the NFL.  Wilson loves to make the big hit but is also capable of making the big pick.  He's got very good speed and should make for a solid upgrade over Miami's recent free safeties.  The only question will be how Wilson handles making the secondary calls at the line of scrimmage - a duty usuallt reserved for the free safety.

3) CB Vontae Davis
The Dolphins spent their first round pick on Davis and clearly have high hopes for this kid.  While some Dolphin fans were disappointed in his selection, I get the feeling that those same fans are going to love him once they see what he can do on the field.  He's a physical corner who loves to hit.  He's got good speed and ball skills and has that "swagger" that cornerbacks seem to need to thrive in the league.  He was the most physically talented corner in the draft and the Dolphins stole him with the 25th pick.  I get the feeling Vontae is going to come in with a chip on his shoulder to prove all those doubters wrong - and us Dolphin fans will reap the rewards.

2) CB Sean Smith
So if I'm so high on Davis, why is Sean Smith higher on my list?  I truly believe that the police should be called on the Dolphins - they simply fleeced the entire NFL by taking Smith with the 61st overall pick.  Many of you know that Smith was my #1 "mancrush" in this draft.  It's simply not every day that you find a 6'3 1/2" corner who can run a 4.47 40 yard dash and have the athleticism to blanket receivers on the outside.  And if you need tape to see how good Smith is, I suggest finding video of the 2008 Sugar Bowl between Utah and Alabama.  Smith was the defensive star for Utah, registering 6 tackles, a sack, a forced fumble, and perhaps the game's biggest pass deflection - leading Utah to the upset win over the Crimson Tide.  I think Smith has the highest ceiling of any corner in the '08 draft and cannot wait to see him wearing the aqua and orange on Sundays.

1) DE/OLB Jason Taylor
Was there ever any doubt?  Sure - we aren't getting the vintage Jason Taylor we are accustomed to seeing wearingthe #99 jersey.  But when the Dolphins signed Taylor last week, you couldn't help but feel thrilled that one of South Florida's most beloved athletes was returning home.  Taylor's decision to come back to Miami grows his legacy here - but also really highlights the kind of transformation we've seen in Miami from 2007 to now.  I don't care if Taylor only plays 20 snaps each game.  He's going to go out and give it his all whenever he's on the field - and I get the feeling we are in store for at least one more truly unforgettable, classic JT moment at some point in 2009.  How can you not be excited for that?

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I simply can’t recall a single Dolphins player who has created the kind of buzz – both locally among Dolphin fans

Idk ted ginn was pretty insane…both postively (playmaker) and negatively (no quinn…?)

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by finsxfactor on May 19, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

He gotcha there nick

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by Enhalen on May 19, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol it's better than a "first" seizure followed by squat lol

btw.. I think Grove should be higher on that list Matty. He’s a clear upgrade to Satele, and with the 2 starting guards returning to flank him, our OL should be ridiculous. Between the interior, and our 2 stud tackles, we should be able to keep CP10 on his feet all year long, as well as PTR teams to death.

btw.. I think Grove should be higher on that list Matty. He’s a clear upgrade to Satele, and with the 2 starting guards returning to flank him, our OL should be ridiculous. Between the interior, and our 2 stud tackles, we should be able to keep CP10 on his feet all year long, as well as PTR teams to death.

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 19, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is there an echo in the building????

lol

There’s a reason why numbers 2 through 4 are guys in the secondary – that was this team’s weakest spot in 2008 and I’m thrilled with the moves done to fix it up.

Grove just isn’t higher than 6 for me because it’s hard to get excited about a center. This wasn’t a list based on their importance to the team – just about how excited you are about each player. If it was based on importance, Grove is a top 3 addition.

by Matty I on May 19, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate doubled comments lol

and I dunno, I’m not excited about watching Jake Grove, and buying a Grove jersey, but I damn sure am excited about the effect he’ll have on our running game and that we should be able to pound teams into submission.. so I’m not sure how that fits lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 19, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

Grove will likely have the biggest overall effect on the team if he stays healthy. There is a reason that most coaches believe that that key to winning is – run the ball; stop the run.

Last year we could not run the ball worth a damn. CPs short passing game became a poor substitute for a run game. This can work if you are running a west coast style offense (montana throwing to craig out of the backfield when the Niners didn’t have a good running game, still won the SB), but you need a QB who can scare people downfield and a WR that will make the safety pay for cheating.

But if we can run the ball with Ronnie and Polite, straight up the gut, for 3.4 yds per carry every time, we control the tempo, the clock, and the game. A strong run game also sets us up for big plays, and wears out the opposing D. You want to beat the Ravens? Run on them for 3.4 yds / carry at will.

And I guarantee you, that in spite of all the Wildcat hoopla, Tony Sparano would rather take an old fashioned running game, and pound it down the other team’s throat any day. How can ANYONE who claims to be on the “Ronnie Brown Bandwagon” (and i have noticed that there are quite a few of you), not be excited about this pickup? Brown will probably lose some playing time to White in the Wildcat, so if you want to see him finally show his potential, you should be looking for him to get quite a few runs behind Grove this year.

Center might not be exciting, but to me, watching the running game this year will be.

And yeah Matty, the 2ndary was the weak spot, but 1) it was okay when goodman finally started playing, 2) I think an improved pass rush this year will make the DBs look better anyway, and 3) the less they play the better they will look so keep em off the field with a strong run game.

I like the davis and smith pickups A LOT, but I think Grove changes the entire game plan for the Fins. and that excites me!

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 19, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to get excited about a Center?!

Center is the most important position on the field, how can you NOT get excited about that?

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by ratenxs on May 19, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

We took Jake Long last season, not this..

Very well done Matty. But something tells me Eric Green will be slightly more exciting than Tony McDaniel, and I know I’ll take backlash for saying that. I read an article somewhere analyzing his metrics and why he performed so badly, and he really had quite a reason to be so distracted from football. Something about having to go through the death of his child, if I’m not mistaken..

There has to be a reason the guy was starting prior to the start of his poor play last season. Has anyone examined metrics from 2007-08 and/or earlier?

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by Dave.Phuller on May 19, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

green will only get me excited if/when he plays to Will Allen's level

otherwise, where does he fit when Smith and Davis get up to speed?

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 19, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting you bring up Green....

I kinda agree with you but I also can take Lefty’s position.

I mean… we know what he did coming into the NFL. But then he did slack(?) or, like some people do, comform to their surroundings.

Can he play thru distractions, pressure, expectationss? Or will he use these as a crutch?

That he’s not high on people’s “lists” or even on them, then it’s a “wait and see” approach…. with no surprise if he’s just a body on the field.

by Alpha6 on May 19, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would argue that Grove should be 10th on this list

The best running game in the NFL in ‘08 (NYG) averaged 5.0 yds / carry. Den and Car had a 4.8 average. The phins averaged 4.2. How much is Grove going to improve that average as an individual? Won’t the fact that the 2 starting guards from last year and Jake Long getting better have a bigger impact on the running game?

But there is another part to this question about the improved running game. Does it really matter in the overall scheme of the offense? Pitt ranked 23rd in rushing offense last year and Ari dead last. Isn’t it more important to be dynamic on offense and have big play ability?

This isn’t the same NFL as 10 years ago. Rules are in place to benefit the passing game that were not there even 5 years ago. The teams that consistently win now, IMO, are the teams that have dynamic, big play passing attacks on offense, not the grind it out running attacks.

I am not saying that running the ball in not important. But going from 4.2 average per carry to 4.6 is not that big a deal and doesn’t gurantee any more wins or loses or anything else. Plus giving credit for that improvement to one player, Grove, doesn’t make that much sense when the entire unit is responsible for the running game.

by ct1361 on May 19, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude.

our running game stats were drastically inflated by running the WC. And we came up with the WC because we could not run the ball straight up.

Three games against the NTs in our division looked like this:
Jets – 2.9 avg
Buffalo – 1.9 avg
NE – 3.3 avg

I disagree with you about Grove.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 20, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it matter what formation the phins

chose to run the ball from? Whether it is the I formation, split back, or wildcat, who cares? As long as they are effective running the ball. 4.2 ypc is an effective running game. I think the reason that the run game wasn’t that effective, especially toward the end of the year, is that the OL had back-ups in at both guard positions and a center playing with one arm.

by ct1361 on May 20, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay, there is a point in that we had backups in,

but it absolutely matters about the formations when you CAN’T run out of them!

Even if you take the backups out of the equation, the reason our run game went downhill (or DIDN’T go downhill, depending on how you look at it), is that teams started taking away the WC and forcing us to try to beat them man to man.

If you can ADD a formation like the WC, great. But it is not going to be a consistent substitute for an effective power running game.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 20, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no doubt.

that’s what I have been saying. 1) the line wasn’t good enough to go toe to toe, so 2) they came up with the WC as a way to be able to run – which helped, until 3) teams figured out how to adjust for it, and then we were back to not being able to run the ball.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But we don't have

Big Ben or Warner, if we are gonna do some damage this year we’re going to need our run game to be better than good, the run game goes as far as the O-line will take it.

by uncle finster on May 20, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't disagree

but if the run game is better this year will it be because of Grove or the fact that the guards are healthy or Jake Long is better? My point with Grove, or any individual player on the OL for that matter, is that it is almost impossible to judge how an individual does blocking in the run scheme because one persons block works in conjunction with the others. It is much easier to judge individuals on the OL in pass blocking because it is more man vs man.

I am not arguing that Grove isn’t an improvement over Satele. My argument is that you can’t give him credit alone for any improvement in the running game. Just like I wouldn’t blame him if the phins running game is worse this year. I would blame the entire unit.

Because of that way of thinking, that his success or failure is so heavily based on the entire OL as a whole, that makes him the least exciting off season acquisition IMO. Every other player on the list you can look at individual statistics an deem them good or bad. You won’t be able to do that with Grove.

by ct1361 on May 20, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is just not true

you can review tape and see whether or not a single O-lineman consistently beats him man and handles his assignment. If you could not see that, then your argument would make sense, and there would have been no point in swapping Satele for Grove. But the FO did their homework, which included review every snap each center played last year and concluded that the addition of Grove would help us handle the big NTs in our division.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 20, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is true

Just because the NT lines up over the C doesn’t mean at the snap of the ball the C blocks him. The C and a G are always, I will repeat this, ALWAYS, working to block the NT and an ILB in the inside running game. I have graded a lot of film and attended a lot of OL seminars over the years being taught by some of the best coaches in the country and none of them would leave a C one on one with at NT on a run between the tackles.

by ct1361 on May 20, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I have to disagree

That is based on your personnel, and their personnel, and then what the defense does after the snap.

by uncle finster on May 20, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't give Grove all the credit

but if he is a significant upgrade, then he will make the line that much better, and if you want to win games this year, our running game has got to be better than good.

The C position will be critical in determining how good we will be this year, if it doesn’t work out it may be a disaster for us, if its an upgrade we may win a playoff game, who knows.

Anxious is the word I would use, to more accurately describe it, but my eyes will be on grove a lot this preseason.

by uncle finster on May 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will definately get to see what he is made of this year

Not only within the division but from the likes of SD and Pitt. Williams and Hampton are pretty stout NT’s.

by ct1361 on May 20, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree Matty

The only person who im excited about who’s not there is Jared Bronson, the tight end out of Central Washington. Watching videos of the guy I am astonished he went undrafted. I understand he played at a small time school but how many other nfl stars did too? Anyways heres a video of him. Enjoy but just make sure you don’t drool on the keyboard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdG-sBvHtQ

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by Enhalen on May 19, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My list from RZ's thread:

 Okay RZ, here’s mine:

My rankings are generally weighted based on known NFL performance, and future potential, so while some of the rookies have awesome potential, they don’t get to the top of the list until they actually DO something in the NFL.

1) Grove – Because i agree that he has the ability to be the single biggest game changing piece. If the run game goes, and ronnie goes, the passing game will go, the WC will go, and the D will have an easier time of it.

2) Wilson – Ahead of Taylor because i think he is probably more a part of the future, for a few years anyway.

3) Taylor – Because I am excited to think about how awesome it will be to have him and Joey in a scheme that highlights their ability to rush the passer (take notes Cam-Moron)

4) Wake – Because he has a TON of potential to be the next JT, but CFL play only counts for so much. Let’s see what you can do in the NFL!

5) Davis – As a rookie, has the greatest potential (as of today) to make the biggest impact this year.

**6) White – The guy can be a legitimate backup QB, with the ability to start. And he may be the best combination of passer/runner since Cunningham.

7) Smith – Based on where we got him, and the crazy potential the guy has, he could end up being the best overall value pick.

8) Turner – He might be that big, athletic, Fitzgerald type of guy, if he doesn’t shy away from contact.

9) Clemons – We don’t really need another safety right now, but you have to love a guy who get drafted in the 5th, and come right in and impresses the coaches with his hitting and ball skills.

10) McDaniel – He is here because he is essentially a 7th round pick. Lot of potential, love the size, but you have to ask yourself, why would they trade him so cheap? He needs to get in there and show something.

**White and Davis are pretty much interchangeable. White may actually have a more dramatic "big play" impact in games, but I get the feeling that Davis will actually get more playing time and solidify the defense.

-LCFF

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 19, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like LCFF's order better.

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by ratenxs on May 19, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

At the end of the day, it’s still a list..honestly, the order doesn’t mean much to me..

I’m equally excited about all ten of these guys and then a few more.

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by Dave.Phuller on May 19, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol its cool Matty....i stole the idea from Omar Kelly and Ethan. thanks for the tip though!

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by Rzayo24 on May 19, 2009 1:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Frankincense..??

Ah, the aroma………………………………….

by Alpha6 on May 19, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1)Wake
2)Davis
3)Taylor
4)Wilson
5)Grove
6)McDaniel
7)Clemons
8)Ellis
9)Quinn
10)Smith

by uncle finster on May 19, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

quinn?

"It only ends once, everything else is just progress"

by Patssuck456 on May 19, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When it comes to dealing with the media, that kid sounds like a

Parcells in Training.

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by ratenxs on May 19, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

top 10 "new guys"

1 Donald Thomas- O line is the key to what this team does. Gone after only 1 game, this will feel like an acquisition.
2. Y. Bell- More pressure on the QB and some quality help in the secondary will lead to more big plays.
3 Chad Henne- This front office throws 2nd round picks around like manhole covers, Pat White is here, time to show what you can do.
4 Ted Ginn – 3rd season, also got some help. No more excuses.
5 Taylor- Defensive player of the year or injured vet on way out?
6 C. Wake- This aint the CFL. Prove it here.
7 V. Davis- No time for learning curve. Moss, T.O. and Steve Smith waiting.
8 P Turner- Make them cut Wilford.
9 Green – if there is a learning curve, must be ready day 1
10 McDaniel- Low risk High reward?

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by phyrmun on May 19, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

you changed the rules

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 19, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

absolutely NOTHING about Green gets me excited.

;-)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 19, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well........... the team did pay him handsomely for what you describe of him....

I agree with you Lefty, on a great deal of points on this Green guy. Do you think he might be the Wilford signing of this year? Does the pay influence his play? I absolutely agree that when the drafted DB’s develop (2-3 years?), Green will become expendable.

So who are you excited about?…… just one please.

by Alpha6 on May 19, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grove

i think Grove can be the biggest game changer for the team this year. If you handle the big NTs, that’s 6 games (afcE) right away that you are going to struggle in. If you can run inside, you can pretty much set up anything else – short pass, long pass, sweeps, trick plays… AND you control the clock, keep THEIR O and OUR D off the field, THEIR D on the field, and create opportunities for our revamped pass rush.

The only big question mark about Grove is his ability to stay healthy. i know he can handle the big NTs, and can help RB get those tough inside yds.

As for Green, of course I hope he plays to his potential, and is not another “wilford”. But because we have such depth at DB right now, and because W.Allen is headed toward FA, there is a minimum level of performance for Green which can be deemed “successful”. I think we have to look at him as being the replacement for Will Allen, so if he plays to any lower level than that, I would be disappointed. With Davis and Smith in the wings, and great expectations for them next season, where else will Green fit in?

just my opinion.
=)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 19, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry
If you handle the big NTs,

Meant to say “if you CAN’T handle the big NTs”.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 19, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Happy to have JT Back!!

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by buckeyebill on May 19, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here's mine

1) Pat White -imagine him supplanting Henne as QoF?
2) Cameron Wake -if he’d been in the draft, he’d have gone in the late fist, top of the 2nd.
3) Jason Taylor -probably not much left in the tank, but how can you not be excited
4) Gibril Wilson -he’ll provide some serious bang for the buck… on opponents’ heads
5) Vontae Davis -probably won’t contribute much as a rookie, but he’ll have flashes
6) Sean Smith -see above
7) Patrick Turner -might make a few plays here and there
8) Jake Grove – what’s exciting about a center?
9) Brian Hartline – I’m very curious about this guy and the attitude he’ll bring to the team
10) No one else, really

by icerob on May 20, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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