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Around The AFC East: New England Patriots

It's now time to wrap up this first week of "Around The AFC East" by turning our attention to the Patriots.  To help us, let's welcome in MaPatsFan from Pats Pulpit - SBN's Patriots blog.

Matty I: As much as I hate to say it, I continue to be impressed with how the Patriots go about their draft day business. Aside from picking up more future draft picks, the Pats added some players I liked a lot heading into the draft. Which draft pick are you most excited about?

MaPatsFan: If you asked me the same question before rookie mini-camp, it would've been a no-brainer: Tyrone McKenzie.  He may not have been as high on the boards or mocks as other inside linebackers, but he is a phenomenal human interest story.  After his mother was in a severe car accident and unable to support the family, Tyrone quit college for a while to support his family.  He played on three different college teams just so he could be closer to his mother during her recovery at various hospitals.  And, aside from the human interest part of it, he was adding youth to the Patriots' inside linebackers, something we desparately needed.  I felt like he'd be a great sidekick to DROY Jerod Mayo.  I was HUGE on this kid and then it all ended in the first mini-camp practice.  During a drill, he got tangled up with a tryout running back and tore his ACL - out for the season.

The next obvious answer would be Safety Patrick Chung; I'm high on this kid, too but I'm going to go with CB Darius Butler, final answer.  While not as highly rated as Vontae Davis, for example, Darius fits the Patriots system quite well.  Typical Belichick, he loaded up with vets Shawn Springs and Leigh Bodden who will be good mentors for Darius.  There will also be some competition with second year guys Jonathan Wilhite and Terrence Wheatley.  Darius plays with a big chip on his shoulder due to his 5-10 frame, but watch out - he can jump!  He's been known to give too much separation, but I hope he sheds that and is allowed to take risks as a ball hawk; we lost that with Asante Samuel and I miss it.
 
As important as Darius' CB abilities are, his kick return skills have turned out to be equally, if not more, important.  When CB Ellis Hobbs was traded to the Eagles during the draft, we lost a starter and serviceable corner, but we also lost one of the best return men in the NFL.  Butler has been a very productive returner in college and we really needed that skill after Hobbs' departure.
My Take: As you all know, I really liked Darius Butler prior to the draft.  I also was a big fan of Ron Brace.  I think the Pats did really well landing those two - plus Chung and McKenzie - while picking up 2010 draft picks.  And that makes me sick.  One thing is for sure - both the Dolphins and Patriots are built for long-term success, which will make the AFC East a very competitive division for many years.

Don't forget to head over to PP to see what MaPatsFan asked me about the Dolphins.

And thanks to all three of the AFC East bloggers for coming together and kicking off the 2009 version of "Around The AFC East."

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can we stop doing this "1st" thing.....especially if u have nothing to add other than it

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
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Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

It is getting a little old…

by jbird996 on May 15, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

New Rule

finsx get ready to put this in the phinctionary.

If you “first” a post, you must then add a response to the actual post in the same comment, or you will be subject to endless ridicule until you cry.

btw, it’s not you Alpha, it’s most of the blog that does it lol

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Winner of Four 2008/2009 Matty Awards
Matty I says, "its all fun and games until somebody goes to jail and gets raped"

by Little Nicky 21 on May 15, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

manlaw

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaaww,

it’s just that Riz is from the red and silver, with a feather in his hat, Coral Gables High. He can’t stand loosing to the blue and gold STINGRAY from Miami Senior High.

Weener.

Check me out on the rec’d by fansince. Ah the memories…..

by Alpha6 on May 15, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol i went to coral SPRINGS high buddy.......

and our useless soccer team (staring me in goal) beat #2 ranked in the state Miami High in the nova southeastern tourney my sr. yr…

and i struck out 14 in a game againstr Killian….so i aint scured of Miami high schools lol…yall dont do it like we do in in browards son

SEE ST.THOMAS AQUINAS

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn It!!

And dude, I’m older than you……..

by Alpha6 on May 15, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Broward!?

You sound like ur from Ft Meyer, boy.

AND, AND, you Browards aint evon worthy of sniffin our jock-straps.

You booys up there weren’t right. Ur girls would come down for some of that latin dancing, if you know what I mean.

by Alpha6 on May 15, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the 305 bitches

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on May 15, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol you would play soccer...foot fairy (not saying the other one because im -not allowed-)

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by finsxfactor on May 15, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

Btw, thanks Rzayo for taking on the Bills site. I’da done -but you know me.

Larry Little and I both wore 66 in our football careers. I think that means something.

I, Tunaflipper, am LOL, all who speaketh LOL must pay tribute!

by Tunaflipper on May 15, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all i did was go over there to read mattys stuff

and i corrected their stupidity….then they wanted me to type for them like i was typing a formal resume…lol…then it got out of hand and i just asked to be banned and told them i would be angry if i sucked too

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

taking on the Bills site? seriously – are you guys teenagers? i’m not being a jerk – I just really want to know – because it sure seems that way to me

Silence is golden but duck tape is silver

by J2 on May 15, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

naw we just have fun over here....

and i wasnt “taking on ur site” …i was simply telling it how it is….

you guys suck

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like we dont knwo that – we watch them!

Silence is golden but duck tape is silver

by J2 on May 15, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when i say suck im semi-joking by the way

im not a dickhead fan…like u guys over there tried to make me out in under 2 sec….i was just totally making points that squashed the stupidity of some of ur members.

like them trying to say pat white cant throw the ball……

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and roscoe parrish is the wildcat king u never used

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This season

I’m dying waiting for this season to come upon us. The AFC East is going to be a huge battle this year for everyone ( But I feel the Jets are probably going to bottom out the division). These “Around the AFC East” specials rock!

by jbird996 on May 15, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i disagree...

the jets and bills are a joke and going nowhere fast

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda agree with you

I think the Jets will definitely be at the bottom of the division this year. I think they’ll put too much hope and pressure on Sanchez and not let him develop properly, and he will struggle because of it. Then like they have so many times in the past, Jets fans will turn on him for not leading them to the playoffs immediately. And I don’t think that the defense is going to be as dominant as Rex Ryan likes to tell the media it will be. He might be a very good defensive minded coach, but more went into the Ravens defense than just him. Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, etc. He’s got Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard yeah, but I don’t think that they will be as big of inspirational and motivational leaders that Lewis and Reed are in Baltimore.

The Bills have some potential to do good this year, but it will depend on a lot of variables. Can Edwards learn to make quicker and smarter decisions? Can the guy replacing Peters at LT handle the pass rush effectively? I don’t think that TO is going to be the savior that opens up the offense like some people are predicting. Yeah he might draw double coverage which will leave Evans one on one, but even if he doesn’t, TO tends to drop a lot of balls thrown his way too. Especially when he doesn’t feel as though he’s getting enough passes thrown to him. Just look at the Cowboys last year, when he started complaining about not getting enough passes, they threw to him more, and he still dropped like 3 or 4 out of 10. And worse, most of the drops were important ones or potential TDs too.

Overall, I can see Buffalo breaking even and going 8-8 this year. The Jets? I’m betting they win 6 games tops.

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

by Chupathingy on May 15, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

notto mention their starting rb is suspened for the 1st 3 games

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overall, I can see Buffalo breaking even and going 8-8 this year. The Jets? I’m betting they win 6 games tops.

thanks! your more opptimistic than most Bills fans

in all reality – It really doesn’t matter who our RB/LT is – its all on Edwards – if he can do his thing we will be fine – if he sucks – we will suck. pretty much that simple – but you know that from going 1-15 with no QB to 11-5 with a QB. its all QB in this league – plain and simple.

look at the colts – sub .500 team without Manning

Silence is golden but duck tape is silver

by J2 on May 15, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only diffrence is............

his name is Trent Edwards.

he isnt that good when he’s good

ur next post should be his career record.

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think everybody is underselling The Jets.

They finally drafted a QB in the first round (although I thought waiting, or trading up slightly, for Freeman was the correct play), and they DO have a good defense. They have Kris Jenkins, Shaun Ellis, and don’t forget Lowery, Ty Law, and Revis in the backfield. Oh yeah, Calvin Pace. They are going to have a SICK defense and by ignoring that fact you are being a pretty big homer.

Driver of the Trade-Ronnie-Brown Bandwagon.

by joel311 on May 15, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pats are smart

solid draft.

if i were them i would go get a vet qb though….Brady isnt gonna just step in and be his old self…it might take half a season if ever

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they've been drafting QB's every year though..

I think if Brady goes down, or needs to sit for a period, then they’ll throw Kevin O’Connell in there, and let him ride the talent on the offense while he catches up, just like they did with Cassel. As much as I hate them, NE is really the model for how to build a franchise, along with Indy, Pittsburgh, and the Giants. It sucks because you know, if there’s any significant injuries on the Pats, that more than likely they’ll just keep pumping along… bastards lol

Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Four 2008/2009 Matty Awards
Matty I says, "its all fun and games until somebody goes to jail and gets raped"

by Little Nicky 21 on May 15, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Brady gets hurt or sucks......they are .500 this yr

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

k maybe not...i immediately regret making that prediction lol....ill say 9-7

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
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Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Four 2008/2009 Matty Awards
Matty I says, "its all fun and games until somebody goes to jail and gets raped"

by Little Nicky 21 on May 15, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

9-7 could win the division ;-)

Especially when we have the Dalai Lama on our side:

Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on May 15, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol....

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. 9-7 could win the division this year.

All AFC East teams schedules are beasts this year. But that being said, I would look out for the division winner to make a big push for the superbowl in the playoffs. Home field doesn’t matter as much as it used too and the winner of the AFC East will definately be battle tested.

Great pic by the way.

by ct1361 on May 15, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha Ha Ha!!!

I wish it was a Phins hat instead of a Pats, but that pic is still frickin’ hilarious.

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

by Chupathingy on May 15, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Dalai Lama

They made a big deal a while ago when he visited and wore that Pats draft hat. I read about it on yahoo and it was like the only thing they talked about all day.

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

by Chupathingy on May 15, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait...thats not photoshopped? serious?

lol

" who the hell is that guy"

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 2009 (Highest honor on earth)
2-Time Matty Award Winner
Author of "ITM"....the original forefather to CKC
Epic 09' Predictions - JT comeback player of yr / Ronnie Brown 1500 yards

by Rzayo24 on May 15, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, not photoshopped

It actually happened. I can’t remember where exactly he was at, I think in Boston but he actually wore it. LOL I can’t find the story now, but I remember reading it.

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

by Chupathingy on May 15, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The real deal

He visited Boston and spoke to 10,000 at Gillette Stadium.

Kraft handed him a hat before his speech and His Holiness put it on. Of cours, Kraft milked that picture for all it was worth.

Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on May 15, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice hat!

I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man. I'll make you proud LCFF
Official Leader of the Trade for Kenny Britt Bandwagon
Longest Sig In the History of Phinsider belongs to Me. 53 Lines in Total.
Check it out.Front Paged - Class of 08. and 09.
Finsx-LOL-Chart by KCsince88

by finsxfactor on May 15, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unreal

Winner Of The 2009 Phinsider Predict The Pick Contest

by Foy on May 15, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Pats

Maybe its cause I live in N.E but I could smell the arrogance coming off that guys every word he typed out.

I am tired of the we are so great at everything no matter what we do, Mr. Cheater picks sleepers in every draft and we never draft a bust attitude… What about Chad Jackson…!

They just piss me off

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on May 15, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And ya know what!

I wish I had the fin arrogance too…. maybe I am just jealous!

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on May 15, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fin=F ing

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on May 15, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Know what I think of when I hear New England Patriots??

BOSTON CREAM PIE.

Thaaaat’s right. They’re nothing but creamy pies.

Go ahead. Bring out those helmets with bent over Patriots…………… waitinG……… fOR………A……….CREAM PIE!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah, I’m pumped, I’m ready for these two games! Darius NOTHING!

by Alpha6 on May 15, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As much as I hate New England I gotta hand it to them they know how to draft

this could be the team to beat yet again god I hope Brady go’s down again

Winner Of The 2009 Phinsider Predict The Pick Contest

by Foy on May 15, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta feel bad for that kid who got hurt

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on May 15, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Matty

Did you guys share war stories of your “mancrushes” for Darius Butler or did you get over that already?

"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."

Coach Paul Bear Bryant

by AussieKen on May 15, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

I made it clear that I think highly of Butler to MaPatsFan. Now I’m just praying I’m wrong.

by Matty I on May 16, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tsk tsk

I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man. I'll make you proud LCFF
Official Leader of the Trade for Kenny Britt Bandwagon
Longest Sig In the History of Phinsider belongs to Me. 53 Lines in Total.
Check it out.Front Paged - Class of 08. and 09.
Finsx-LOL-Chart by KCsince88

by finsxfactor on May 16, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol rz..."got a question for a fins fan?"

I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man. I'll make you proud LCFF
Official Leader of the Trade for Kenny Britt Bandwagon
Longest Sig In the History of Phinsider belongs to Me. 53 Lines in Total.
Check it out.Front Paged - Class of 08. and 09.
Finsx-LOL-Chart by KCsince88

by finsxfactor on May 16, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Typical Belichick, he loaded up with vets Shawn Springs and Leigh Bodden who will be good mentors for Darius.

What is Shawn Springs going to teach him? How to play like a woman, get hurt and cash that paycheck from IR?

by alskor on May 16, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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