Dolphins Buzz: Pat White exciting his teammates
This is the time of year when things like "buzz" are making headlines. There's no real football being played - which means speculation and possibilities come to the forefront in the minds of both fans and players.
Dolphin fans have been drooling for the past couple of weeks over what Pat White might do for Miami's offense. Apparently, us fans aren't the only ones who are excited over the new dynamic elements that Pat White brings to the Dolphins. Thanks to Barry Jackson's latest article, we know now that many Dolphin players are excited over the selection of White.
Writes Jackson:
Several players expressed excitement about Pat White's addition and the prospect of even more offensive creativity. Although Ronnie Brown loved operating the Wildcat, he said it was ''good'' Miami drafted White and will not be disappointed if White assumes that role.
Davone Bess believes that "this will take our team to another level."
While Davone might be a bit too optimistic, it's certainly a possibility that White's ability to pass the ball will add a new element to the 'Wildcat' formation. Defensive coordinators will no longer be able to drop both of their safeties into the box to defend the running lanes. If they do that, they'd be leaving their corners in one-on-one matchups with Miami's receivers - including the insanely fast Ted Ginn. And is there really a corner who could cover Ginn one-on-one when Teddy is sprinting down the sideline at full speed? One of White's best abilities, too, is his ability to throw a very good deep ball.
Of course, defenses can decide to keep their free safety deep. But they then run the risk of being "out gapped" and, if the line holds their blocks, will have a tendency of giving up chunks of yards on the ground.
That's the quandry that defensive coordinators will face when they begin game-planning for the Dolphins during the season. And those are just the basics. Then you have to worry about things like having Ronnie Brown and Pat White in the backfield together - maybe even with Ronnie taking the snap from center - as well as the potential of White leading a "spread" offense, which is something the Dolphins "are intrigued by" according to Barry Jackson.
Ronnie Brown probably sums it up very nicely, saying that Pat White's arrival "will open more opportunities, add new wrinkles and keep the defense guessing."
And how exciting is it learning the 'Wildcat'? Greg Camarillo tells the Herald that "it's as exciting to learn the Wildcat as it is to watch it."
Personally, though, I like Ted Ginn's take on the selection of White. Ginn simply says, "Pat White will be great."
Ronnie Brown Update
In Jackson's article, there's also some news on Ronnie Brown:
Nineteen months after tearing a knee ligament, Brown said he feels ''stronger and better'' and is ''taking the weight on my shoulders'' to improve the running game.
Brown is clearly excited about how the offensive line is shaping up - saying that "we've got the offensive line in order." And the second full season after tearing your ACL is historically when a running back returns to form.
Call me a "homer" if you want, but I get the feeling that Ronnie is going to have a big season and will earn himself a nice contract extension here in Miami.
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FIRST!!!
(now imagine there is a big picture )
I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man. I'll make you proud LCFF
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You have a serious problem.
You need to go to a PA meeting.
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by Andy Edwards on May 13, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont have time for Phinsider Anonymous ...im too busy at my Banned Bloggers Anonymous Meetings
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by finsxfactor on May 13, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe you should look up an NA meeting
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on May 13, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
yea dude i know...its my Naturally Awesome Meetings . every wednesday at 7:15
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ook...for a second there i was thinking you were implying narcotics anonymous...lol...
not that im agreeing or anything
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lol
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Man, with everything that I hear about Patty,
I get more and more excited. I can’t even come up with anything in my mind to even begin to imagine how he might be used.
I think my head is going to explode.
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SO,
you’re more excited about Pat or the last blog about big balls? :D
You can’t think because the finsx-ter beat you to No. 1. :-[
And your head feels like exploding after that king kong “first” you wrote last time. 8-]
Is there a dysmorphophobia anonymous?
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I think the player’s opinions are important here. They know what’s being installed, planned and practiced. Should not be discounted easily.
I too am looking forward to what offensive options will be put in play because of the talent and skills of Pat White. Should be extremely fun to watch the games this fall.
I'm not gonna lie...
I have NO IDEA what any of that first half means, hahaha.
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by Andy Edwards on May 13, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry KC,
I was trying for a word noogy on ya. It was really late when I posted and after reading it over, I see that I don’t know what the hell I was talking about. (But you really should read Malachi V’s side post)
I thought the big “first” picture was pretty funny.
I still can’t figure out how to work the postings … how to change font size, post pics, block a quote. I tried reading the instructions, but it doesn’t seem to work for me.
Keep it up Kid Cool ……..or is it Kansas City? 8-D
i think it was so effective
the noogie rattled his brain! =)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on May 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Let Me Explain...
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when ya hafta 'splain it
tain’t funny mcgee.
;-)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on May 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Ronnie is in for a career season
I can really see him breaking out this year. Fully recovered from his knee injury, and an improved O-line makes for a good combination.
In one of my Fantasy Football leagues, my two keepers are Adrian Peterson and Ronnie Brown. Both will be top 5 fantasy backs this season imo.
Jealous much? :P
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
I agree 100%......the addition of Pat White +
one more year removed fom his injury, not running the wildcat will make him (Ronnie Brown) be able to concentrate on the beast he is while running or on screens + Ricky Williams- moving him in & out will keep Ronnie fresh & extend his career….too many backs hit a wall early in their career because of ecessive workloads!
Even with the Fins tough shedule this year I feel they are a top 10 team (barring extensive injuries).
Also, Pat White may be causing Hennne tolook over his shoulder!
by MassFinFan65 on May 13, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
3 backs
over 1000 yards, is that even doable? Ronnie, Pat and Ricky. Should be fun….
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in Japan missing the 2009 NFL draft......
didnt the Giants accomplish that last year?
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When it's me I can't forgive?"
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by Patssuck456 on May 13, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
You're Homer!
And this is the Odyssey!
Larry Little and I both wore 66 in our football careers. I think that means something.
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The only issue i have with this is
last year one of the best things about the wildcat was, we didn’t have to change are on field personnel. That’s why defenses couldn’t tell when it was coming out of the huddle. We know Pat won’t be the starting qb this year, so in order for this to still work we have to find a way to work him in on standard formation plays, or we just loose that element of surprise.
How about these plays with both White AND Henne on the field at the same time
Note that there is no change in personnel, any one of these plays can be run with the same personnel:
Play #1: Henne in the gun with 2 HB, Pat White slot in motion:
BL LT LG C RG RT TG
<- – - – - – - – - – - – PW
RW CH RB
1. PW option handoff (option throw or run)
2. RW and RB cross in front of Henne, option handoff or play action
3. Henne throws (last resort: scampers slowly)
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Play #2: Henne in the gun with 2 HB, Ted Ginn slot in motion, Pat White wide.
BL LT LG C RG RT PW
TG – - – - – - – - – - > < – - – - /
RW CH RB
1. TG option handoff (option throw downfield or throw back to Henne or RW or RB).
2. PW route option to go downfield or receive double reverse from TG
3. PW on the double reverse: run/pass option or toss back to CH for Statue of Liberty
Note: at this point TG would be executing a wheel route (whatever that means)
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Play #3: Pat White in the gun, Henne in the slot in motion to behind PW
BL LT LG C RG RT TG
CH
RW PW RB /
< – - – - – - – - – - /
1. RW and RB cross in front of PW, option handoff
2. PW option run/pass toss back to Henne (Henne trails White)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Play #4: Henne out wide, White in the gun, two backs no TE
CH LT LG C RG RT BL
\ TG – - – - – - – - – - >
\ RW PW RB
\ – - – - – - – - – - – >
1. TG option handoff (option throw downfield or throw back to PW or RW or RB).
2. RW and RB cross in front of PW, option handoff
3. PW option run/pass (Henne assigned to block, sneak downfield slowly, or reverse for Statue of Liberty)
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by DolphDallas on May 13, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
well so much for formatting...
use your imagination to decipher
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by DolphDallas on May 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem with Play #3 I think
QB’s in the slot are not able to go in motion. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
Basically, I don’t think Henne is able to move once he is in the slot…same with Pennington last year, that’s why he was stationary all the time, until after the play.
kudos to you for actually trying to understand the formatting mess
Problem solution:
No motion for Chad Henne.
He lines up in the slot and when the ball is snapped either heads down field, blocks, or retreats to a position trailing White.
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there you are =)
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Once the formation is set teams react quickly enough.
I don’t think White will be exclusively Wildcat -or else we’d have to call it WildWhite.
Larry Little and I both wore 66 in our football careers. I think that means something.
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The Pat White selection insures that the offensive coaches will stay creative
I’d like to see Ronnie get more touches especially in the fourth, but as we learned in the Wanny Era the simple PTR mentality doesn’t work at the NFL level. You have to have balance on offensive and White should help us create more mismatches. Then maybe in the fourth the defenses won’t know what’s coming so we can RAM Ronnie down their throats.
25th CB VONTE DAVIS / UI (2 INT, 7 TFL, 8 PBU, 3 FF)
44TH QB PAT WHITE / UWV (2700YDS, 29 TD’S)
56TH CB SEAN SMITH / UTAH (5 INT, 1 TD, 2 TFL, 9 PBU)
87TH WR PATRICK TURNER, USC (570YDS, 10 TD’S)
4TH WR BRIAN HARTLINE / OSU (500YDS, 4 TD’S)
5th TE JOHN NALBONE / MONMOUTH (500YDS / 5 TD’S)
by ATS16 on May 13, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions
let's just pretend for a sec
that white is the black version of Brees (not that color has anything to do with it, but it sounds catchy, and i don’t care much for political correctness =)
white is about half an inch taller, and about 5 lbs lighter, so the height issue shouldn’t be one.
If the kid can throw the deep ball like Brees can, YOWSA! – all of a sudden Ginn’s speed means something! while I too am excited about his ability to run the WC, i am MORE excited about his potential to make those kind of plays with his arm. Nothing against Henne, but white just looks like he really has the tools to be a solid every down QB, and since he can run even BETTER than Brees, let’s call him Tornado – more than a brees, a high speed wind that also carries the ability to do localized damage on the ground.
=)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on May 13, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
OK, Weaver-the-Weather-Man...
I agree with your assessment. And it does make it interesting in that they have Henne (lot’s of inferance w/QB situation). But I agree that White provides “options” that were not available from a skill set point. I think you’re on the right track, in that White may be an every down QB, every bit as any other potential.
Further, and I don’t mean to make a sore spot, White will be used better and differently than the forgone “Slash” of Pittsburg’s yester-years.
Well played!
If Pat White has Drew Brees arm
Than I would take White over Brees anyday. I could have a Qb with an elite arm, or a QB with an elite arm and speed. I’ll take the second one.
by ChiefsFan90s on May 13, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't wait to see the WILDPAT!
The dolphins have gone from painful to watch into one of the most exciting offenses in the league….. TUNA can buy my groceries anyday!
All I know
If they have any itch at all to get Pat White as the true QB, they best trade Henne for an early 3rd rounder now (maybe even a 2nd round), while we still can, and not have that “see username” situation again! Otherwise we will give up this season due to not letting Pennington play (to let Henne have a shot), or we are giving up the next 5 seasons because we didn’t (due to QB battles, trust me they never work, see Buffalo, Chicago, Cleveland).
What’s the point of having a good QB and to potential franchise QBs. When one of them loses, unless they are both capable, his trade value is garbage. Let’s say White is a failure, we just get a good QB like Pennington to stay here, while we find the guy.
I guess I should have thought twice before creating my profile's name.
Henne isn't going to be traded anytime soon in facr he's a mile ahead of White already
Our qb situation couldn’t be better
by fins72marino420 on May 13, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
How do qb battles never work its competition and every guy is working harder to become the starter
by fins72marino420 on May 13, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
The
Battles I’m talking about is for franchise QB, not between two old-timers. They lose their spirit apparently. Minnesota is the next one to fall out.
I guess I should have thought twice before creating my profile's name.
(sneak attack) last
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(tornado) i like it, but sounds like miami huricans should have rights to that play!
niceone l.c.f.f. man now fans can make up plays 4 our team, let me go to sleep on that one maybe i can come up with one hay thanks for the sujest.
by wild zion beaver on May 15, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions

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