Weekend Roundup: Talking Pat White, Dolphin receivers & more
Just like it probably was for many of you, this past weekend was a busy one for myself. But I'm back from a wedding in Pennsylvania and have caught up on all of the Dolphin news. So now allow me to do my best to catch you all up on some Dolphins news.
PAT WHITE BUZZ
Since the draft, Pat White has been a hot topic among Dolphin fans across the country. And, as expected with many decisions, the selection of White has been a hotly debated move among fans. But this past weekend at the wedding I attended, a few non-Dolphin fans actually brought up the topic of Pat White. Interestingly enough - they all seem to love it.
A combination of Jet fans, Giant fans, Cowboys fans, and Eagle fans had nothing but positive thoughts about White. In fact, these fans seemed more optimistic about him than many Dolphin fans I know. Some even seem to think that White will eventually beat out Chad Henne as the team's starting quarterback in a few years.
Now it's beyond me to sit here and say that all these opinions matter. We all know opinions are like a**holes - everybody has one and most of them stink. But what is most interesting to me is the buzz White is generating - not just from Fin fans but from football fans in general.
When was the last time the Dolphins really created a national buzz in the football community? It's been a while, that's for sure. Even last season's amazing turnaround didn't seem to generate the kind of buzz that Pat White is creating. It's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out once camp begins in July - and even more interesting to see how much national media attention Pat White gets in his rookie season.
ROSENHAUS: WILFORD "EXCITED FOR THIS SEASON"
This past weekend, courtesy of his twitter account, Ernest Wilford's agent - Drew Rosenhaus - wrote the following:
Ernest Wilford is excited about this season - he has been in the Dolphins workout program and is ready to bounce back strong this year.
Who would have thought that a player would be excited about getting cut? That's what Rosenhaus is saying here, isn't it? After all, there is no way Ernest makes this team, is there?
Let's be honest - the chips are clearly not stacked in Wilford's favor as we inch towards training camp. Ted Ginn and Davone Bess are likely locks to make the final 53-man roster. Ginn has shown flashes of ability and his ceiling is still very high as he enters the crucial third season in the league. Bess, meanwhile, only had the second greatest rookie season ever for an undrafted wide receiver.
Greg Camarillo signed a 3 year, $5.7 million extension last season before his knee injury. And in April, GM Jeff Ireland said that if camp was to open today, he and Ginn would be the team's starting receivers. I'd be surprised if Camarillo wasn't a Dolphin in 2009, though he could open the season on the PUP list if his knee isn't fully healthy.
Patrick Turner and Brian Hartline were 3rd and 4th round draft picks respectively and it's highly unlikely either wouldn't make the team. And it would be risky to try and sneak either through waivers to place them on the practice squad, though I wouldn't be shocked to see the Dolphins attempt to sneak one by. I'd say it's unlikely, though.
Brandon London has been highly regarded as a "project" wide receiver - with nearly half of the league putting in waiver claims for him last season when the Giants waived him in hopes of placing him on their practice squad. And here's the key with London - he is NOT eligible for the practice squad because of the number of games he dressed for last season. So he'll be competing for a roster spot and it would be hard to pass up a guy with his potential to make room for Wilford.
So right there you got six receivers who are probably higher on Miami's depth chart than Wilford. And I haven't even mentioned those guys like Anthony Armstrong as well as the undrafted free agents the Fins brought in.
But maybe Rosenhaus was saying Ernest was "excited" about getting cut so he can go try to make a less-talented team. Yeah - that must be it.
HOW THE DOLPHINS DO BUSINESS
Want to know how the Dolphins go about their business in terms of player personnel and their offseason training program? Barry Jackson has some inside info courtesy of the recently signed Eric Green:
How brutally honest are the Dolphins with new players? Cornerback Eric Green said that before he signed, coach Tony Sparano and general manager Jeff Ireland essentially told him, ''We rolled 80 guys through our 53-man roster last year. What does that tell you? If you're not going to play, we'll get rid of you.'' Green, who said players appreciate that honesty ''whether it's harsh or not,'' also said the Dolphins' offseason training program is so grueling that "I was throwing up lifting weights.''
Love it! This is how a professional football team is supposed to be run. And to think of all the joke coaching staffs and joke front offices we had to put up with to get to this point. A professional athlete is puking just from lifting in the Dolphins' conditioning program. Awesome!
Oh - and that whole honest, no-nonsense approach with their players? Also awesome! That's how you do it - you make every player earn their job. If they don't, "we'll get rid of you."
QUICK HITS
-Will Allen spoke with the Palm Beach Post recently. I love his attitude. He loves football and calls opening up the season with Matt Ryan, Peyton Manning, and Philip Rivers "a dream."
-Could undrafted free agent Louis Ellis be our long-term answer at nose tackle?
-Dolphins have three preseason dates and times set. We knew that the August 27 game against Tampa Bay was set to be a nationally televised game at 8 pm. Now we also know that the Dolphins will open their preseason on Monday, August 17 at 7:30 against the Jaguars. And they will close the preseason on Thursday, September 3 at 8:00 against the Saints.
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lol hello there you two
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by finsxfactor on May 11, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We all know opinions are like a**holes – everybody has one and most of them stink.
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by finsxfactor on May 11, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you never heard that one i take it?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 11, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no lol...and from matty lololol priceless
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by finsxfactor on May 11, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey matty, nice update!
funny about Wilford. =)
I agree, he has a tough road ahead of him considering last season.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 11, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only reason that Wilnot....err Wilford is excited about next season
is because he thinks he can make a million dollars a catch again…….
Great post Matty, did you tell all those other fans that the Dolphins=GOAT?
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by cbdolphin on May 11, 2009 3:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great read
love the Ellis guy’s character. Pat White is very popular here in Va aswell where there are more Redskin & Panther fans, heck, almost anyone i’ve talked football about, mentions the “Pat White Wildcat” & how I should be happy the phins snagged him, lol.. Im happy for everyone we got.
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by E_Dove on May 11, 2009 3:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Earnet Wilford
My predictions as I mentioned on another post…works his ass off, steps up and becomes a contributing force!
by MassFinFan65 on May 11, 2009 7:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wilford spent a year on the bench essentially +
his trade value now sucks because of last year + there are much higher profile WR on the market now with litte interest……lng stry short now or never for Wiford & I think he comes through!
by MassFinFan65 on May 11, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree that this could be a "make it or break" it year for Wilford
it’s just hard to predict when we really don’t know much about why he was benched last year. was it inability to perform in practice? lack of conditioning? bad attitude?
I think that if Wilford doesn’t kill it in camp, he’s gone.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 11, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
& I think Wilford is thinking the same way!
by MassFinFan65 on May 11, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilford...
I’ve been back and forth on him. I know he’s been hitting the weights hard this off-season so I’m not counting him out yet. Although I don’t believe we would put a 4th or 5th rounder on waivers unless one of them totally wasn’t what they thought.
Ellis looks like a beast, I think this year he’ll get down to his weight, and next year he puts on some real muscle and not D-II muscle. I would love to see him push Solai and sub in towards the end of the season.
In regards to P. Witty the buzz is everywhere. I work at a call center and we’ve got Skins, Steelers, Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, Falcons, even some dirty Jets fans but they all have said that Pat White was the perfect pick for the Dolphins.
That bit about Eric Green puking lifting weights in the Dolphins Offseason Program is amazing as you said it Matty. It’s like he went from Basic Training in Arizona to Navy Seals Training in Miami.
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by Heater OsE on May 11, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FYI...
doing heavy legs workouts makes you puke EVERYTIME. Last year i was at a gym….working out with my boss (ex-bodybuilding champion) . I never do legs…..cuz i dont see the point really since i have to wear shorts at the beach anyway….so he had me do like 2 hours of legs…..towards the end i needed to puke (like he said i would)…almost made it to the “puke door” everyone uses….and had to make an emergency trash can puking….
its all about the blood leaving ur upper body….it makes u gack!
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by Rzayo24 on May 11, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've never heard of this
When I use to run for training I’d see kids chunk, I’ve come close to it, but not after a leg work out.
I’m going to do a ridiculous amount of leg exercises tomorrow. I’ll report back what happens. Wish me luck.
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by DolfinPhan on May 11, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
getting up and down to change the channel doesn't count.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 11, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about beer curls?
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by DolfinPhan on May 11, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
those count, but not as leg exercises.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 11, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its still a vital part of my workout.
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by DolfinPhan on May 12, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who gets up and down to change the channel??
it’s called a remote lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on May 11, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilford = done in the NFL
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by Rzayo24 on May 11, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
someone will pick him up if they don't have to trade or pay much.
but i believe Wilford=done on the Fins.
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 11, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilford will prove you wrong!
Feeling that’s in my gut!
He is big 7 strong like Parcels likes….he just needs to up his intensity & it’s do or di time for him!
by MassFinFan65 on May 11, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no worries. we understood. =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 11, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilford and others
Its clear that Rosehaus is trying to give Wilford the best name right now for other teams to see as it looks like there is a strong possilbilty of him getting cut. I think he could still be on the squad if we decide to put Hartline on the PS come the end of training camp although I still think that is a long shot.
I think Pat White deserves all the recognition and he should be a stud at w.e. position we put him in. Its hard for people sometimes even myself to see the team draft a QB 3 years in a row in the 2nd round and not wonder, I just think he will provide the team something special this season as I do see him getting alot of work in the WildPat haha
On another note it is always good to hear pros being pushed hard in the offseason, I think this will give our team an edge as the season comes along again. I remember how teams were saying how we were a strong team before well wait until this season =)
by markus_13 on May 11, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When you don't have a franchise QB,
drafting a QB in the 2nd round every year is a good strategy. That way there’s always a guy ready to take over when the eldest fails.
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by joel311 on May 11, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe they call that the "Ron Wolf" strategy.
he’s the guy i remember preaching that.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 11, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Wolf happens to be good friends with Parcells.
by Matty I on May 11, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Wolf was actually heping Parcells out a but last year
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by Patssuck456 on May 11, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey! i'm beginning to think maybe this isn't just coincidence!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 12, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm.....
….I’m beginning to think you might be on to something!
by Matty I on May 12, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
well played matty. ;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 14, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pat White Was A Steal!
Could not agree more. Agree with this article, Pat White will be running the wildcat this year, and be the 3rd string QB. In 2010, Pat White will beat out Chad Henne. It is nothing against Henne, but White is a once-in-a-lifetime QB. The way I see him; he is Michael Vick with the accurate arm, stronger arm, better hands, better feet, and a better head. Michael Vick was the number one overall pick and did not live up to expectations. Pat White is a second round pick, and the most versitale QB that has ever came out of the NFL Draft, imo. Bill Parcells has been with the Miami Dolphins for two year, has had two great drafts, and setting up the Miami Dolphins to become the New England 2010s decade. Their leaders will be Jeff Ireland, Tony Sparano, and Pat White. Bill Parcells is 5 for 5 on rebuilding team successfully. By year five of the Sparano era, at the latest, they will be Super Bowl champions if drafting like this keeps up.
by ChiefsFan90s on May 12, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PAT WHITE HOF
2032
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by DolfinPhan on May 12, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow!
that’s awesome!
Now, can you tell me the winning numbers on tomorrow’s lotto? Not trying to be greedy or anything, it’s only like 10mil, but i could really use the money.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 12, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(since yer new around here, i'll tell you, i'm just messing with ya)
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 12, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should've used the sarcasm box lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on May 12, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol you should too....O WAIT...you dont know how
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by finsxfactor on May 12, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the serious box!!!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 14, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol just because you cant do a sarcasm box ill play along...
LCFF FOR PRESIDENT!!!
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by finsxfactor on May 14, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
you are right, I don't know how to do it
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 14, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol im glad you figured it out…nows its like 4 of us here who can do it (dont tell anyone)
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by finsxfactor on May 14, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
i just looked at the source.
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on May 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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