End of Week Nuggets: Vontae Davis, Channing Crowder & more
Friday will begin the Dolphins' three day rookie minicamp down in Davie. And ESPN's John Clayton believes that how the Dolphins use Pat White will be the second biggest storyline in the league this weekend - only topped by Mark Sanchez in New York. So that means the Dolphins will likely be in the national spotlight beginning today and well into the foreseeable future.
Indeed, there's a buzz down in Davie and it's only going to get louder in the coming days and weeks.
Anyways, here are a couple of stories from around the web to close out the work week.
VONTAE DAVIS: "I'm the total opposite of what people say"
I plan on doing a much longer entry early next week focusing on our number one pick - Vontae Davis. But there is a good piece in the Palm Beach Post about Davis and those perceived "character concerns" the media was buzzing about leading up to the draft. I highly suggest you read the entire article. But I did want to include this excerpt:
But those closest to Davis insist the bad rep is an unfair rap, especially the person perhaps most responsible for triggering his unsettling reviews. Illinois coach Ron Zook, the ex-Florida coach and tough-love disciplinarian, benched Davis for a couple of opening plays against Iowa last year. Zook wanted to teach him a lesson about always giving all-out effort. Now, he's wishing he didn't. "If I would've known that it would've caused all this, I might not have done it," Zook said. "He's like my son. I would never do anything to hurt him." Uneasy Dolphins fans - and coaches, for that matter - might take heart in knowing that after all he's been through to reach this level, Davis isn't about to blow his chance. And about that benching - the likely reason that the media created a stir about Vontae's character - it's to be noted that Ron Zook wanted to light a fire under Davis, which is why he announced in front of the entire team that Davis wouldn't start. Of course, Davis entered the game after missing two defensive plays and went on to be on the field for more plays than any other Illinois defender. Zook claims that if he knew the stir his motivational technique would have created for Vontae leading up to the draft, he wouldn't have done it. This whole entire situation, in my opinion, just goes to show you how much crap teams must wade through leading up to the draft. But for Davis and for the Dolphins, things couldn't have worked out better. The Fins landed perhaps the most talented cornerback in the draft with the 25th overall pick - a player that most scouts agree would have been a top ten talent if not for those "character red flags." Thank goodness for those red flags!
CHANNING CROWDER DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE MIAMI
Speaking at a charity event, Dolphins LB Channing Crowder admitted that he did expect to have some longer contracts on the table from other teams if he hit free agency last March. But he lost sleep at night thinking about this whole situation and, truth be told, he just didn't want to leave Miami. Said Crowder:
"We kind of met in the middle. Four to five teams were interested and, three years, I probably could've got a 4-6 year deal somewhere else but I didn't want to leave Miami and the Dolphins knew that."
"I love coach Tony Sparano and Bill Parcells, and am happy. And if I didn't play for my linebackers coach George Edwards, I'd probably get kicked out of the league with all my crazy stuff he has to deal with. ... I slept for the next two days.''
This says a lot about Channing's character. He likely left money on the table to come back and play for the coaches he loves and the city he doesn't want to leave.
But it says even more about Miami's coaching staff. What a huge difference between this regime and that debacle that was the Cam Cam regime. Over the next few years, the respect that Tony Sparano and company generate amongst their players will likely be a great tool as the team recruits free agents. Very often, players will reach out to other players to find out about the coaches of their potential new teams leading up to free agency. And when you have players like Crowder leaving money - and long-term financial security - on the table to return to this city and this coaching staff, it's impossible not to sit back and thank whoever it is you worship for such a well-respected regime leading your football team.
QUICK HITS
-Paul Soliai was nervous watching last weekend's draft - worried about the Dolphins potentially bringing in more competition at nose tackle. But now he has even more confidence in himself since the front office didn't add any other nose tackles. And, as Soliai points out, he made a ton of progress last season learning the nose. Said Soliai, "By the end of the year I learned a lot and wasn't getting moved." Of course, the Dolphins did add an undrafted nose tackle - 320 pound Louis Ellis from Shaw University. So don't get too comfy, Paul.
-Two positions where a lot more competition was added this offseason are wide receiver and cornerback. But that doesn't seem to faze either Greg Camarillo or Nate Jones. They welcome the competition.
-Speaking of Camarillo, Greg is confident that he'll be back to full speed by training camp in late July following his ACL injury last November.
-According to Pro Football Weekly, expect an open competition for both kick return and punt return duties. I think I might fly down to Davie and throw my hat in the ring for return duties.
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first again...
I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man. I'll make you proud LCFF
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i highly recommend you guys check out the link matty posted
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2009/04/30/0501vontae.html
not just his excerpt but the whole thing…
it will really quell any worries or hesitation you have regarding vontae
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by finsxfactor on May 1, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No kidding.
That’s a GREAT article. I was talking to someone today and said that in terms of physical ability, I think Vontae has Champ Bailey written all over him, but I was concerned about his character.
After that article though, hell, I think he might make all of us say “Champ Bailey who?”
I didn’t even know he was Vernon’s little brother, to be honest >_>
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
Lol...the best was
Vernon/Vontae character comparisons came up before this year’s draft, but truth is little brother was a quiet, introverted, video-game junkie and always obedient to grandma.
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I recommended you, recommending everyone to read what Matty had already recommended
I think I just broke
"the world Chico, and everything in it" -Tony Montana-
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by uncle finster on May 3, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I can admit at first i was down upon him
but now…im ready to say it
I LOVE ME SOME CAMARILLO!!
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LOL! You might want to clarify your post, finsx.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
LOL...take it however you want...=)
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i was the one originally defending camarillo last year
so take this for what it’s worth….. I believe we don’t really need both Camarillo and Bess, so pick one. Someone’s gotta go, and I actually think Bess has more upside.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on May 1, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
You may be correct here,
Camarillo was having a great year, and he was a good match with CP. However, when Bess got in there he was a little better. Bess made more big plays and was just more explosive overall.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
and honestly, how many slot guys do we need.
we drafted some bigger guys to be outside possession type targets, Ginn is being challenged a little bit this year by Armstrong, Brennan Marion, and Todd Lowber as outside speed guys…. i mean we have total of 11 WRs on the roster right now… Camarillo, as much as i love the guy (no homo) is kind of a “tweener”… not a big guy, not a really fast guy… he is dependable and runs routes well, but if they can get a guy that’s 1) dependable, 2) runs routes well, and 3) is bigger or faster, then Cam is the odd man out.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on May 1, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
didnt irealand already say ginn or camarillo were our number 1’s right now
1. ginn
2. rillo
3. bess
4. turner
5. london/harline
anything wrong with that lol…i dont see it
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If we had to choose
I choose Bess too. But IMO there our two best WRs, until someone proves otherwise, even though neither one is a true flanker, they may be your starting pair opening day. Hear me out for a sec. Penne does not have a strong arm, so our deep threat, is a bit of an empty threat, despite Ginn’s speed. Bess and Rillo are the best route runners, both have good speed and are the quickest in and out of there breaks, and run there best routes in Penne range. Obviously they wont be out there together all the time but they may be getting the most snaps of the WRs:>)
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by uncle finster on May 3, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
not worried...
Vontae Davis will be a stud. Love the Pat White pick, cause it makes opposing defenses nervous. Sean Smith has mad upside. Happy with my Phins right now!
Wow Channing Crowder.
A story like that can cement you into a team’s lore for years to come. Keep improving year after year and keep making yourself known as a true Dolphin and you might be mentioned in the same sentence as Zach Thomas one of these days :D
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
yep..but he has a LONG way to go
that part was kind of funny because earlier there were reports of him possibly leaving because of the money thing lol
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Yeah I know!
I was surprised in the first place when he ended up resigning for a somewhat mediocre deal anyways.
Then you get news like that and it just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. ^^
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
yea i know...you would think this guy would be one of those people who would just sign to the team with the highest offer
then you see a sense of longing for miami…a want to play in the place he now calls home shows a lot of our team.
how much we’ve changed from being that team that you jump ship because of disbelief (i love jt…but cmon bro)…to the team you believe in ..
its just incredible..it really is
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Truth be told,
the other day when I mentioned how I wanted to go out and buy a Vontae Davis jersey after finding out his number was 24, I was exaggerating a bit.
Even before reading the article, Matty, you just triggered something in me that reinforced my original belief that this kid would be an absolute star and stud cornerback in this league.
What a steal.
Cannot freaking wait for September.
We're all goin' down to the creek tonight; it's gonna be a gas! You're comin', right?
Good article, but one question
I like the most of our picks in the draft, except for Brian Hartline (I’d taken Duke Robinson or Jamon Meredith at that point), and I’d like to see whether Pat White will be as successful as Ronnie running the wildcat.
Matty. since u want to compete for KR/PR, what’s your time in 40?
It's Rich Eisen-esque
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RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed
by Little Nicky 21 on May 1, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
rich eisen = the man
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Illini fan here
I think you guys are in for a treat. I think the accusations against him are totally untrue. It was just brought about during the draft process because of one incident against Iowa and because of Vernon. Everytime I have talked to him in class he’s been nice. It’s a little biased, but here’s a pretty nice article about him from our student paper I thought you guys could take a look at.
http://www.dailyillini.com/blogs/di-sports-wrap-up/2009/04/29/an-ode-to-v-davis-he-went-to-classes
Thank "whoever" you worship? What a bunch of crap...
What a bunch of baloney. Whoever one worships isnt necessarily responsible for bringing this staff together. Come on, dude, will people get INTO the REAL WORLD by now? Man! Its 2009 for crying out loud!
Putting this staff together was the job of Bill Parcells and Huezenga hiring him. Now, if God (Yahovah and His Son Yashua Christ), allowed it to happen…fine! But money, sex, prestige, allah, the earth, or whatever someone chooses to worship had absolutely ZERO to do with putting this staff together. Please, grow up by now.
And yes, their is a GOOD reason why the term political correctness is frowned upon by most rational people….because its BS.
chillax
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
lol really
that was a rant about nothing.
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RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed
by Little Nicky 21 on May 1, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
heres the thing mred....
92 percent of America believes in god or someother higher power
It sounds like you have a problem with those that believe in god…or that you are an athiest…and I am 100 percent fine with that.
Whether you choose to believe in god(s) or not is entirely up to you…and it is only up to you. Matty is only implying that after all the years of mishandling and failures running our team, finally we have people who know what they are doing and are already generating success.
so my advice to you is not to worry about simple statements …rather…go to a library and start reading…because quite frankly you are ignorant…and a bit of a drama queen
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definitly not a buddhist
"the world Chico, and everything in it" -Tony Montana-
creator of cute little bust name "shrimp Patty" for Pat White
by uncle finster on May 3, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
And Thank Goodness
for a FO that does it’s own research……..
Is it just me...
Or am I not alone when watching VD’s after practice video he seems like.. well I dont know that he should not have made it through college? Maybe I shouldnt say anyting like that because its not PC but damn he seems plum dumb.
lotsa good news
"the world Chico, and everything in it" -Tony Montana-
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