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I was thinking about the upcoming draft and I think its quite interesting that there are only 3 quarterbacks that are good enough prospects to go in the first 4 rounds or so.   

What if Chad Henne were in this years draft? Last year where there were several prospects to choose from, and he ending up sliding down lower than where many of us thought he would end up.I would not have been upset if he were taken with our 31st pick. Keep in mind that much of his descending had to do with injury problems in his senior year.

Comparing him to Stafford and Sanchez, two guys that will go very high because of the tools that they posses, I would say that Henne is right there with them. Also, Henne was a 4-year starter and they are both underclassmen.

With all that in mind, what kind of prospect do you think Chad Henne is at this point. Did we get a guy a year early that would otherwise be a top 15 kind of player, or did we just get a guy that went were he should have, late in the 2nd round? Where would Henne go in this draft?

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Where would Chad Henne be drafted in the 2009 NFL Draft?
Top 20 pick
103 votes
Top 20 middle 2nd round
66 votes
Middle 2nd round or later
13 votes

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Pretty interesting post, but even more interesting

are the Poll Results, meaning, if everybody is so high on Chad Henne then why would half of the voters still se Henne as 2nd round material. Thats weird.
Look, this is an interesting comment Gatorphan posted once in a post of mine regarding Henne and the second round possibilities of succes.

“There were a # of circumstances that lead to Henne slipping. For one- we may see teams like Minni and Chicago as having a QB need- but they may not see it as a problem at all. Minni was still stuck on the T. Jackson experiment and Chicago is content with Kyle Orton even now. Henne was also coming off of a season in which he was pretty severely injured which not only hurt his stock on its own- but also lead to inconsistent production and missed time which probably scared some teams off.

He does have a lot of the indicators for a solid NFL QB though- 4 year starter, near 60% completion rate, strong arm, and lots of intangibles. Sparano already said if Penne didn’t fall in our laps he would have won the starting job over Beck and Josh the Journeyman McCown- I know that isn’t exactly a tough feat but for a rookie it is impressive.

Obviously- we can’t be sure of what we have until we see it either- but if you combine his college career, measurables, intangibles, and the fact that he will have had at LEAST one season learning behind a smart vet in our system it looks as promising as it possibly can.

It would have to be a special QB available in the draft to make him more valuable to us than Henne- and Stafford, Sanchez, and Freeman at the top of the draft this year are not even close – I would take Henne over any of those players."

by MauMontaV5 on Apr 6, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree...

I would take Henne over any quarterback in this years draft in a heartbeat. I would have done the same thing last year, too. I could be wrong but wasn’t Henne being projected as a top 10 pick in the the pre-season. I don’t think he did anything to hurt his stock his senior year aside from getting hurt. I am also fairly confident that given the opportunity he could have been just as effective as Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco were last year.

by thatzakkid on Apr 6, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only Time will tell

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by Rytackle on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

beck would be a consensus number 1 overall pick

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by finsxfactor on Apr 6, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I gotta say, I missed the special Beckie-brand of comedy you brought all the time..

by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 6, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch.

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by el presidente 00 on Apr 6, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you nuts????

the guy has at least another 20 years of work as a professional duck hunter….

in the NFL – he has maybe 3 left…. but he cand easily continue on for another 20 thereafter killing ducks.

by W NY Fins Fan on Apr 6, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

....ugh

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by finsxfactor on Apr 6, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what are you going to do

once they trade beckie on draft day…

who will your man crush be?

by W NY Fins Fan on Apr 6, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a) they wont

b) ill also have britt

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by finsxfactor on Apr 7, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome back finsx

I haven’t gotten a chance to say that, but now I do!

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by rangerjae on Apr 7, 2009 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks bud

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by finsxfactor on Apr 7, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still surprised we didn't get Brohm.

We were just one, or a few, picks away.

He was a first round talent his junior year, then dropped to second round his senior.

Crazy.

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by DolfinPhan on Apr 6, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Packers got him right?

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by Rytackle on Apr 6, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

and the fifth rounder matt flynn moved ahead of him on the depth chart behind rodgers

by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 6, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good call

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by finsxfactor on Apr 6, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brohm and Henne both were, I would have been very happy with Brohm, but being a Michigan fan, I was ecstatic when we drafted Henne

by thatzakkid on Apr 6, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm so glad we didnt take Brohm

Being a Big East fan, I saw Brohm a lot and he just doesn’t impress me. He’s a statue QB who, like Drew Bledsoe, can’t pass the ball when there are defenders around his feet. He doesn’t have a strong arm, either. And he makes bad decisions.

by Matty I on Apr 6, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

def was never a fan of Brohm

He did look good against the canes though.

by drey34 on Apr 6, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Matty

Don’t let that Big East bias cloud your judgment too much. Brohm was a stellar college QB. His numbers are better than Henne in every way possible. They are both statues in the pocket but his accuracy makes up for his lack of arm strength. The only thing people worried about is injuries, yet, he still played a full senior season.

Brohm versus Henne.

I think if the Packers didn’t take Brohm right before us, we would have picked him up over Henne.

I do live in Louisville though, lol.

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by DolfinPhan on Apr 6, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rutgers bias....

Sorry, I had flash backs of UK teams chanting SEC, SEC, SEC after they barely beat my ECU Pirates….

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by DolfinPhan on Apr 6, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fans

let the alcohol dyslexia set in…..

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by DolfinPhan on Apr 6, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol as a RU...I HATE Louisville

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by finsxfactor on Apr 6, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rumors were

the phins had NO interest in Brohm – and the packers were the only pick they sweated out in the second round waiting to draft Henne.

IIRC – reports were that they had a back up plan if henne was gone – but for the life of me i don’t remember who they planned to target late as a development pick.

by W NY Fins Fan on Apr 6, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol my guess is parcells would have called that team and said "give us that kid or else"

and that team would cut henne instantly and send a letter to parcells apologizing for taking Henne in the first place

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by finsxfactor on Apr 6, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which one is it?

mel in ransom – GIMME BACK MY SON
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by W NY Fins Fan on Apr 6, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mel lol's

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by finsxfactor on Apr 7, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't compare Henne's and Brohm's numbers

the Big East is terrible so Brohm faces far weaker competition.

And the difference between Henne and Brohm is that Brohm is a little bitch – meaning he won’t stand in and take a hit to make a throw and he becomes very inaccurate when he’s under pressure. That doesn’t seem to happen with Henne, though I haven’t seen as much of Henne in college as I did Brohm.

by Matty I on Apr 6, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in Big Ten Country..

and I remember Henne being a ducker. I don’t remember him reacting to pressure well.

by ct1361 on Apr 6, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LLLLLLLOOOOOLLLLLL
And the difference between Henne and Brohm is that Brohm is a little bitch

fricken priceless

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by finsxfactor on Apr 6, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only problem with that

is the big east was pretty good in 2007….

didn’t the go like 6-0 or 5-1 in bowls that year?

by W NY Fins Fan on Apr 6, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

doesn't matter

they were sending the 2nd best Big East team against the 4th and 5th best teams from other conferences – if i recall

by Matty I on Apr 6, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't accept that argument

because it doesn’t account for the play of those who didn’t have the numbers at the next level and circumstances out of the control of the player. I don’t know how you judge the ‘bitchiness’ of a player unless using the Jim Rome scale. Provocative as it is.

Brohm still had an incredible high accuracy level. There are always pass rushers on every down every play, even when playing prevent D. He still managed to complete 65% average in his career. Compared to Hennes 59-maybe-60%. If Henne was the higher talent he should have completed more, thrown more TDs and won a lot more games considering the reputation of Mich compared to that of the lowly conference swapping Louisville. Even then, Brohm still managed to improve when going from a sub-par to better division. They say you can’t teach accuracy.

Writing off the Big East as worse than the Big Ten is easy to do when you have powerhouses like Ohio State and Michigan, but Henne lost all of his games against Ohio State. Brohm atleast beat WVU once, and barely lost in a 46-44 shoot out. He also had to play USF after they had become #2 in the nation.

I still think Henne is right for Miami. But I don’t think Brohm would have been wrong either.

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by DolfinPhan on Apr 7, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Henne would've been the 2nd ranked QB in this year's class

Stafford is a legit #1 overall pick. Pro-style offense; strong, accurate arm; smart; lots of college experience. The kid has everything you look for in a QB prospect. While there’s still a chance for him to bust, I think it’s a lesser chance than some of the other QB’s to be drafted high.

Henne, IMO, would’ve been ranked right behind him, and would be projected to go where people think Sanchez will go (8 to Jax, 10 to SF..).

by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 6, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think stafford would do well to have a year on the bench before he starts but he will start right away...

i don’t think he will be as successful as ryan or flacco though…….

im glad henne has and will be able to learn from a master of the position…..hopefully penne will stay to back up our future star in the making………..john beck………ha

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by hwyatt3 on Apr 6, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good post auss

I personally voted top 20…..but its WAY too early to say that Henne is better then Stafford and Sanchez. I think all 3 will be good QB’s under the right system.

by drey34 on Apr 6, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you're right

it is too early, but we can still try to project him into this draft class based on college perfomance and such..

Where would you put Henne in this class?

by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 6, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is why it is so interesting

I would say Stafford has a slight edge over Henne in the eyes of most GM’s…….but what if Henne never got hurt and played really well through out the year. Scouts would have to project him as a top 10 QB. IMO…and this is not me being a homer but I think Henne is the overall better QB. And those stats bellow agree with me.

by drey34 on Apr 6, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This year is a very weak year for QBs.

The fact that ALL three of the top QB prospects are underclassmen speaks volumes. All three have basically the same scouting report too- lots of upside- but erratic performances.

Matt Stafford has every tool you want to see in a QB (maybe he could be an inch taller) but he is horribly inconsistent. Sometimes he looks like John Elway, other times he looks like a practice squad place holder. Matty said its fixable with coaching but I’m not so sure. It really seems like he is just uninterested a lot of the times he is playing (see 99 yards against Kentucky in 07, or 146 yards against South Carolina last year). He basically coasted on talent in college and I don’t know if he has the mental make-up to cut it as an NFL QB (ie if he will be willing to put in the work required). All I’m gonna say is- he nearly lost to Vanderbilt. . . twice.

Sanchez is more athletic than Stafford but doesn’t have quite the live arm. He has played in even fewer games, and was more erratic. The fact that he was so inconsistent on such a great team is a red flag to me- and he would have been an .500 winning percentage guy if he didn’t have arguably the best college defense of all time backing him up last year. He screams Ryan Leaf to me- ie he has some talent but he should have stayed in school.

I don’t even want to get into Freeman. Let me just say- vs. winning teams he had a sub-53% completion rate, and had 5 TDs vs 6 INTs. If he goes in the first round its a joke.

All three are going to be drafted almost purely on upside, which IMO is extremely dangerous. Henne probably has a lower ceiling due to his lack of athleticism, but he is a more proven and steady commodity and fits our offense better anyways since we don’t run a lot of bootlegs or designed QB runs.

If I were to guess in this draft, Stafford would go ahead based on his upside. Sanchez would go ahead based on. . . well based on the fact that he went to USC. I think Henne would however, go above Freeman- either at the bottom of the first, top of the second. If he was entirely healthy his senior year I think he would have gone higher than he did- but of course a shoulder injury on a QB is probably going to scare some teams away. I think we got a steal in Henne where we took him actually though since it looks like he has healed well- in fact I don’t think this regime had even planned on taking a QB so early but I think his value at that point was too good to pass up.

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by GatorPhan on Apr 6, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Choose your quarterback based on college stats in their first three seasons...

Quarterback A:
666-1109-60.1%-7802-70TD-28Int-TD2Int Ratio (2.5 to 1)

Quarterback B:
564-987-57.1%-7731-51TD-33Int-TD2Int Ratio (1.55 to 1)

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by DolphDallas on Apr 6, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And the answers are:

Quarterback A: Chad Henne (first three years)

Quarterback B: Matthew “Franchise” Stafford

Surprised?

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by DolphDallas on Apr 6, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah baby......nice numbers

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by hwyatt3 on Apr 6, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah good point

It occurs to me that we have a franchise type QB who can be properly groomed for the position. At the time, even though I loved Henne, I still thought it would have been nice to get a cornerback, but neither of the guys who were taken after Henne did anything. I believe Regge Corner was the best but he didn’t do much. Henne is the right guy who came in at the right time, an excellent pick-up.

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by AussieKen on Apr 6, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

another important stat would be records as starters (if youre up to it)

stats are nice and all, but at the end of the day its about winning ball games. i would think they are pretty close but not sure.

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by el presidente 00 on Apr 6, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Henne 27-9 and Matt Stafford 30-9

Big difference was Henne Sophomore Season: Michigan went 7-5 versus Stafford 9-4 in his Freshman Season.
Though Henne’s stats in his sophomore season outshone Stafford’s in his freshman season.

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by DolphDallas on Apr 6, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Stafford played in a much tougher conference..

Especially on Defense. The SEC plays some outstanding D.

by ct1361 on Apr 6, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matty- come on now- fair is fair- Henne had good receivers-

but since when was Stafford lacking playmakers? Last year he had A.J. Green,and Mo Massaquoi at WR , and Knowshown Moreno and Caleb King picking up RB duties. Moreno is a 1st rounder (better than Mike Hart), Massaquoi is a probable 3rd rounder (same level as any of Henne’s guys), A.J. Green is a future top 10 pick (he is going to come out with Julio Jones and they are going to battle to be the 1st WR off the board- that is a guarantee), and Caleb King is a 5 star RB prospect. Trust me- go look up A.J. Green – he alone can make up for any discrepancies in talent.

Stafford had the weapons.

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by GatorPhan on Apr 7, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I was doing there was proving the point that....

….we can’t just look at college numbers and say “player A” would have been rated higher out of college than “player B.” Too many other variables – including talent around you, competition played against, coaching, weather, etc…

by Matty I on Apr 7, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But to an extent- isn't that all this draft speculation is?

Otherwise, why are we even debating whether Darius Butler or Shawn Smith is better?

I mean- Henne has thrown 7 NFL passes- so for all intents and purposes he is as unknown as any of this current year’s prospects. I think its a pretty valid comparison all in all.

IMO Stafford is only getting so much love because this years QB class is awful, and for some reason we HAVE to have a QB in the top 5 (you have to go back to 2000 for a draft that did not have a QB taken top 5). Guys like his neighbor Gil Brandt are always sticking up for him and hyping up his comeback wins- but I have nearly every college game of his (thank you ESPN360.com). He is inconsistent and he really had no excuse for it – he was surrounded by NFL talent. Those comeback wins to me are worthless – the best one was against who? Michigan State? Vanderbilt? Kentucky? Why were they even down to those teams in the first place is the real question.

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by GatorPhan on Apr 8, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty similar statistically

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by el presidente 00 on Apr 6, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would see Chad Henne in the Top 20.

I think Stafford and Sanchez would be picked first though.

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by Phinsguy99 on Apr 6, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Henne went right where he should of last year

and he would probably be picked in the same place this year. If he was in this years draft, he would be rated behind Sanchez, Stafford, and Freeman. According to profootball.scout.com (http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&pid=10) those 3 QB’s are 5 star rated. In 2008 they only had one 5 star rated QB and that was Matt Ryan. Flacco and Henne were 4 star rated players.

Why I don’t always agree with the ratings on this site, I think that they do a nice job of giving a big picture of the high quality players regardless of position. For example, in this years draft they have 35 5-star players. In ’08 30 5-star players. In ’07, 18.

by ct1361 on Apr 6, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lets just hope it works out for the best =)

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by finsxfactor on Apr 6, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do hope Henne is the guy.

It is irrelevant now where he was drafted. Just as long as he is the guy. But there is nothing in his college career that says he is a 1st round draft pick, IMO.

by ct1361 on Apr 6, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess so

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by finsxfactor on Apr 6, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow-

I really don’t see Freeman as a 5 star- he is a major project. Truly awful play against even semi-decent teams. He has a “shotgun arm” – powerful, but he scattered all over the field.

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by GatorPhan on Apr 6, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I think Freeman is a project. (I was surprised that Flacco was a 4-star.) But I imagine that the likes of Akili Smith, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, etc. were probably all 5-star QB’s. Like I said, I don’t always agree with the rating system, but I like the site. I think it shows the depth of the draft very well.

by ct1361 on Apr 6, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats because he was hurt that season

there is no chance Henne makes that far…..regardless of “stars” Henne would be taken before Freeman. SERIOUSLY where did this kid come from.

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Couldnt have said it better myself

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