Uniform numbers of Dolphin draft picks
by Matty I on Apr 28, 2009 1:48 PM EDT
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PrintI know a lot of you care what jersey number our draft picks will be wearing. Here they are, according to the team's official web site:
Pat White - 6
Vontae Davis - 24
Chris Clemons - 30
Sean Smith - 31
J.D. Folsom - 59
Andrew Gardner - 63
Brian Hartline - 82
Patrick Turner - 84
John Nalbone - 86
Keep in mind that a change could be made prior to training camp. Perhaps Pat White tries to buy the #5 off of Dan Carpenter, for example.
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Love that Davis is number 24
Personal thing..favorite number.
I have a great feeling Davis is going to be..well, great.
I also plan on going out and buying a Vontae Davis jersey as soon as possible.
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OHH YEAAA YOU KNOW I LIKE #24
was my number from little league all the way through high school
i wore it because my favorite player was ken griffey jr….
nice jersey to get right der
White needs #5….but 6 is cool. I like that he stays with a single digit…anything else makes me uncomfortable….foodball gods dont like change. daute culpepper anyone?
31 on smith is gonna make me think brock marion…..and thats not all that bad
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I'm disappointed Davis or Smith
didn’t go with 21.. but 24 is fine. Champ Bailey anyone?
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
IYO, is the only real reason
that Davis was available to us at #25, his off the field “coachability” issues? I mean, I’ve watched some vids, and read lots of stuff on him, and his Madden rankings are off the charts, haha, so I can’t see why we were able to get him…
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
same reason maualuga fell I guess
character and off-field concerns drive some teams away, and attract others
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that line of thinking
if you are the Bengals, and you lead the league in arrests, but for a team with a farily clean record like the Dolphins, it seems there is little to no risk with that. We are SOOOO LUCKY to have him, IMO.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
best CB in the draft
I wasn’t even thinking of him at 25 because I had him, at point, going as high as 8 to JAX lol. Him and Sean Smith are STEALS
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you, Draft Gods.
And, I’m sure that somehow, someway, Al Davis had something to do with such a great player being around so late :D
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
most likely
because he took Heyward-Bey so early.. all the good players fell one more spot lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
ew lol
take it away from him, give him 45
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yea same here
i loved brock marion…hopefully Smith will bring memories of Marion
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be happy if Smith and Davis
brought back memories of Madison and Surtain..
Hell that might have been the best corner tandem in their prime in history.
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 29, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
omg they were so good
and i loved the airplane that Surtain did (or was it Madison, i forgot)…i would always copy it lol
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 29, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Really Griffey was my boy too feels good that i can break out the old mariners jersey again
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Not bad at all
Brock Marion..man I miss that early ’00s team.
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 29, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It feels like forever since a WR has worn 84.
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can i WR wear #1?
patrick turner was #1 at usc. is that not a possible number for him to wear or does he just want to change his number?
it very uncommon
in the NFL for a receiver to be in the single digits…usually they are in the 80’s, but there is a trend going around now with some receivers going into the teens
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
WR's are not allowed to wear single digits
they can wear numbers in the teens or in the 80’s.. and I believe they’re allowed to wear running back numbers too, because Hester wore 23 last season.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yea that what i was thinkin
but didn’t want to say it in case i was wrong…QB can only be 1-19 or something…RB and CB/S in the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s…LB in the 50’s…and linemen in the 60’s, 70’s and 90’s…correct me if i am wrong
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
and was Hester listed as a WR?
he coulda been officially a CB but they just played him at WR
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
how they listed him last year. I think sometimes the NFL makes exceptions for marketing and stuff.. so since there was already a whole bunch of Hester 23 Jerseys mass produced, they may have wanted him to keep it even though he was a WR last year.
Or WR’s can wear RB/DB numbers as well. It got confusing when they opened up the teens to WR’s, because they technically said QB numbers were available to WR’s, but not the single digits lol
I’m gonna find a link to the NFL Numbering Rules and figure this one out
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
haha you do that
keep me updated lol…i really like this numbering system, you know what position the guy plays just by looking at his number, unlike in college where nothing is consistent, u got WR in single digits, kickers in the 90’s, linemen in the 20’s…ridiculous stuff, maybe college should adopt the same type of rules
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I like how college is.. but it works in the pros. Some colleges (the Pac-10) even allow duplicate numbers, as long as they don’t play on the same side of the ball lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yep they do
ASU had a couple guys like that…Confused the hell outta me and everyone else lol
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I know lol
the best was 2 years ago at USC, when Cushing and Booty both wore 10.. I kept thinking Booty was in on defense lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
wait got something
“It should be noted that this NFL numbering system is based on a player’s primary position. Also, if a player changes primary positions during his career, he does not usually have to change his number unless he changes from an eligible receiver to ineligible or vice versa "
So that would explain why Hester was able to keep 23.. 23 is still an eligible number, so he was able to keep it when he went to WR.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I would definitely wait before purchasing any jerseys.
I almost bought a #79 Jake Long last spring, but fortunately, I held off long enough for the team to cut Drew Mormino and give him his old #77.
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Pat White in 6.. hmm
That tells me, at least at this moment, that he’s getting an opportunity as a QB. He’d have to be in the teens or 80’s if he was a WR, so it appears he’s starting out listed as our 3rd QB right now..
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
I love how you always read so much into things like this.
Although, it might be right, it’s just funny the way people takes things like this, haha.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
lol just an observation
6 is a QB number, not a WR. It’s just interesting to me that he’s gonna start out in a QB number
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
Something about the way you said it, made me just chuckle a bit.
I honestly don’t see him as a true WR in the NFL… Nor do I see him as a true QB in the NFL…
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
But he is a true QB...
IF he impressed people like Bill Parcells enough to draft him as a QB, than he must possess the qualities to be a true QB if we need him to
That being said I agree with your assesment that he will be a hybrid type player
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You're assuming we drafted him solely as a QB
I believe we drafted him specifically because he’s a hybrid type player and could be an explosive WR and a valuable weapon for the Wildcat and in the return game, as well as for any trick plays we can dream up
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree there
Well I guess we will see, but with the cutting of Beck I dont see how White isnt listed as a QB
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
because the season isn't tomorrow
and I don’t believe we’re done adding to the roster. It’ll be interesting to see if we go after a QB as an UDFA, or once June cuts are made (speaking of which, because of the cap situation, will there be June cuts this year?). I can’t envision the roster being done and complete the day after the draft.
Beck being cut says more about Beck to me than it does about White. It tells me that Beck stinks and wasn’t worth even a 7th rounder to the rest of the league, so regardless of what White will be, Beck wasn’t in the plans
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think in the end though...
He will end up our #2 QB, that way we can utilize him in various ways.
If I was the trifecta I would have him immediately work on his pass catching skills in case we need him to be a WR in some formations. This kid has a fantastic attitude and has already said he will learn anything that the team needs him to.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well KC...
With Beck getting cut it only leaves 3 QBs on the roster. So how is anyone reading too much into it.
- White wants to be a QB
- Sparano said we will use him as a QB,
- Beck gets cut to only leave us 3 QBs on the roster
- White gets #6, a number indicating he will be slotted as a QB.
So how is anyone reading too much into it?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, didn't mean that he was reading TOO much into it,
just SO much, if that makes sense… I totally agree. I just find it humorous that we are so starved for information that we take something like this to make a hypothesis as to what he will do.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
lol this is the best indicator of our intentions
than anything else IMO.
btw, I do believe we’ll sign another QB at some point (June cuts are coming, TB has like 7 QB’s at the moment) to replace Beck, and White will be moved to WR and play QB sparingly as a change of pace. He’ll be the so-called “Wildcat QB” and play WR full-time. It makes much more sense to do it that way. Now he can be in the game, as a WR, in the base formations, and we can run the entire offense. Then, without making one single substitution, we go into the Wildcat with White at QB. Because we didn’t sub, the defense is caught off guard and in a bad personnel set, and the Wildcat becomes more effective based on that alone.
If White is a QB, especially if he’s the number 2, he won’t be getting really any reps as a WR, so he wouldn’t be able to play there much during the game. Meaning in order to use him as the “versatile weapon” we want him to be, he has to sub in whenever we want to use the Wildcat. That’s a huge tip to the defense, and the NFL rules stipulate that if we sub, we have to give the defense time to sub as well. So they bring in whatever Wildcat defense they have, and now it doesn’t work.
On top of that, if Pennington, say, tweaks a hammy and has to come out for a quarter or so, Henne can’t come in, and if he does, Pennington (as well as White) is done for the day. It just makes more sense from a gameday viewpoint to list him as a WR
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, again.
I hope we do sign somebody else. Either an UDFA, or somebody like a Gradkowski or Griese or somebody like that, just for examples, would be nice. Somebody that has started before, just in case, God forbid, something were to happen to CP10 and Henne can’t hack it.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
it’s that “god forbid, knock on wood” scenario that I think you prepare for with your 3rd QB. I just think that listing White as a QB, then trying to have 2 of your 3 QB’s on the field all the time is a disaster waiting to happen
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
What if CP and White BOTH get hurt on the SAME play?!
We are F’d in the A big time, haha, and then we would actually have to apologize to finsx for all the rude Beck comments, because we would be begging for him to come back!
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Well what if every team lost their top 2 QBs?
REally it is a scenerio rarely seen in the NFl
and really if you bring White in to play WR then you will have both of them on the field at the same time anyway
You know if injuries warranted White would need to be QB anyway, so you are still having to QBs on the field at the same time anyway.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
but if he's a WR
than you obviously would have a 3rd QB as well, so if he did get hurt, it’s no big deal as far the QB position is concerned
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
He’s the Emergency QB/ Wildcat Extrordianire/ Situational WR/ Possible KR player-guy-dude.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
like Super-Emergency
like, if Pennington, Henne, and our other QB all go down, than Pat White would be the full-time QB
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And, that is how he will be most valuable to a team.
He is much more of an asset as many different things, rather than being stuck at one boring ol’ position, with just one role.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but...
How do you make that work on the roster?
I dont get how we will likely lose 3 of our starting WRs from last years team.
IT doesnt make sense
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
well..
if you believe that WR is a need for us, than losing 3 guys from last years WR’s isn’t a bad thing. We bitched and moaned all year about how our WR’s stunk and we needed more talent there, and now that we drafted more talent, we don’t want to get rid of the other guys?
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That is a great point.
Addition by subtraction, kinda.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
just upgrading the position
is anybody crying about losing Andre Goodman and Renaldo Hill? No, because we upgraded them.
So why cry about Camarillo and Wilford and London if we found upgrades?
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilford
Why is he even mentioned here? Hahaha, he’s dead to me.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a feeling it will end up like this
ginn
bess
camarillo
turner
london/hartline – whoever = better at special teams lol
with pat white listed as the 2nd string qb (so hes not the emergency one)
but that doesnt stop him from being able to play wr.
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by finsxfactor on Apr 28, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been saying this for a while
Pat White as your #2 QB essentially does prevent him from playing other positions, because you don’t want your starter and your backup on the field at the same time. You don’t want to put yourself at risk if White goes across the middle and gets jacked, because now you have to be real conservative with Pennington. You would be one snap away from having 1 healthy QB. I just think it’s stupid to have your backup (who would be getting all the backup practice reps as well) in the game catching passes and running around downfield (all things that WR’s should be doing).
So you end up with a situation where, either Pat White is your backup QB, taking all the backup reps in practice so he’s ready, and then running around on gameday thisclose to getting his head knocked off play after play. Then, we all know the risks of starting QB’s (about half of the leagues starting QB’s are injured at some point during the season, on average). So now you open yourself up to the possibility of having one QB, who has no practice reps, thrust into the starting lineup. Isn’t that what happened to Beck in 07? Didn’t turn out to well.
OR, you have Henne taking the backup reps, and list him as the 3rd, so White can be the 2nd and be active. But, since White isn’t getting any practice reps, you essentially would have to skip over him and go to Henne if Pennington is hurt for the whole game. Now it’s completely useless to list Pat White as a QB at all.
I have no problem with our coaches saying “Pat White is here to be a QB” and treating him as such, but you can’t do that AND try to use him as a WR/KR/Wildcat guy. If he’s gonna compete with Henne, fine, make him a QB, but then IMO you’re wasting many of his best attributes and disabling him from helping our team.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 29, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess that makes sense...
but at the same time then some WR who was on the team last year will not be on there this year. With the success that Camarillo and Bess had last year, I find it hard to believe that both wont be on the team. The Trifecta loves London
So that leaves Ginn? I highly doubt that, and if you were going to add White to be a WR then why draft both Turner and Hartiline?
To me it doesnt add up to make him a WR because of who we would have to cut to make a spot for him there.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Camarillo I think might be topped out
you know what you’re getting from him, but he isn’t getting any better, and he’ll probably be worse following the knee injury. He’s pretty much expendable as well, since Davone Bess does everything Camarillo does, but better. London I have high hopes for, but I think he’ll be competing hard for a spot with Turner and Hartline. It’s not a bad thing if one of them gets cut, because they competed and we will keep the best one or two.
This is my prediction for the WR corps next year
Ginn
Bess
White
Turner
London
Hartline
Camarillo and Wilford will be gone. I think we’ll carry 6 this year instead of 5, and probably activate 5 this year instead of 4.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
And to add to that
I think Hartline will be used primarily in special teams
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually those 6 WRs at our core look pretty good
Bess is the gem in there and all of these guys have great upsides
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, when you get double teamed
by two record setting CKC-er’s, you have little hope of not being converted :D
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The why cut Beck?
If we are going to list White as a WR, then why did we cut Beck?
You really think we will be able to get another QB that is good enough to be on this team?
Im still not sure, even Sparano said White would be a QB and not a WR
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
We cut Beck, honestly, because he was dead weight.
White will be a “Slash” type player, much like Kordell Stewart was, and be used in any way that he can help the team. He will not sit on the sideline all season just because he is a “QB”, and CP is the starter. He will find his way onto the field in numerous ways.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
and I think if he’s the 2nd or 3rd QB, he’ll be on the bench. As the 2nd QB, you really don’t want him taking punishment as a WR, and if he’s the 3rd, he’s inactive unless there’s an injury to Pennington/Henne
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we will have 6 WRs
I remember the list of roster spots by position, I really think that the trifecta will take the one defensive position they are most stacked at and bring it down to 6 instead of 7, thus making a spot for 6 WRs on the roster
That is the only way I see it working.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
So in that vain here is how it could work
White, Camarillo, Bess, London, Ginn, Turner and Hartline
That is 7 WRs plus the guys we brought in now, we have to widdle that down to what 6 at the most, I dont see what guy gets release
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Camarillo or London/Hartline/Turner
Camarillo is redundant with Bess there.. I think we’ll only keep two of the London/Hartline/Turner group, so one of those guys is out.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It was only a couple months ago that we were all so high on London,
and now he is a cut candidate. Speaks volumes about where we are headed.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
But you just said you love Londons upside
And so does the trifecta, I dont think either of those 3 are gone
They love London and why would you cut any guy you drafted? That is a waste of draft pick
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Hartline might be brought in
just for camp competition. If he shows up and impresses, great, so be it. But, if not, just him being there will cause other guys, i.e. London, Turner, Camarillo to step their game up.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I really refuse
to question anything Bill Parcells does, unless he were to draft Darrius Heyward-Bey at #7, ahead of guys like Crabtree and Maclin.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
yeah.. THEN we would be questioning him
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I do love his upside
but I also REALLY like Turner as well. I’m not locked into anybody really, because I know the team is still a work in progress and we’re still trying to get better at every position
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
To me the only locks...
are White and Bess
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
and Ginn
I think he’s a lock as well..
but outside of those 3, the rest of the spots are up in the air
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Nicky: Kinda OT-
But, I wasn’t around here when it happened, but what was your initial reaction when we drafted Ginn at #10 (or 9, whichever it was, I can’t remember) and not Brady Quinn?? I was remember thinking that after BQ was passed on by Minnesota in favor of AP, that he was ours. And, then, Ted Ginn Jr’s name got announced, and I cried and shit my pants simultaneously.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I wasn't here either..
but I was watching it in Illinois with my STL buddy and had my dad on the phone. I was chanting Brady Quinn! Brady Quinn! over and over again lol
We picked Ginn.. everything went silent for a moment.. my buddy made the first sound, he started laughing uncontrollably. I dropped a “WTF.. who?? why???” My dad didn’t say anything, I thought Cam Cameron just killed him by picking Ginn lol. Then he finally comes out with “what the fxxk was that?”
It was a very confusing moment
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn't believe it...
I was so happy when he was there when we picked, and to pass on him, just made NO SENSE whatsoever to me. No need to worry, though… We took Beck in the very next round, hahahaha.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
and Ginn has actually done more than Quinn anyway
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea true Ginn has been better lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that was the Cam Cameron era though
Obviously no one knew what they were doing at that point lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why
I’ve never been in favor of hiring the “hot new coordinator” as a first time head coach. i.e. CamCam. At least Sporano cam on recommendation of BP, but to bring in a guy with no HC experience is such a hit-or-miss risk. It’s just not worth it. Unless you have a GENIUS GM, then it’s destined to fail.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
lol well
I think a defensive-minded head coach is a better bet than an offensive-minded one as well. Unless it’s an OL coach. It’s a mentality thing. That same aggressive, me vs you attitude that defensive coaches have works well in a head coach.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda like Romeo Crennell??
Hahaha.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well we have the trifecta now
So we are good
We have the greatest motivation of any team coming into this year
- we now have the toughest schedule.
- so many said your record was just because our schedule was weak; yeah and NE’s 11-5 with the 2nd weakest schedule was really impressive lol.
- we have the SB in Miami this season.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
the pro bowl is here too
not sure if that means anything.. but I might go :-)
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanna get down to MIA so bad to see a game.
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by Andy Edwards on Apr 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I even think Turner is too
He is 6 5 and has great hands, we would be crazy not to keep him for the reason we need him for. To move the chians, short yardage, ability to go over the middle, ability to go up and fight for the ball and the endzone production
Its a hole in the WR core that we severly need to have filled, which to me is why we picked him. So to me he is close to a lock too as long as he shows up.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
the only way I see him being the odd man out is if Camarillo impresses, London really turns it on, and Hartline surprises people. Turner would really have to lay an egg, as well as have the other guys step it up bigtime, for him to get cut.
You’re right though, he’s probably as much of a lock as you can get
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Also you kinda contradicted yourself
You put all three of them on the roster with 6 WRs but now say that only 2 of the 3 will be on the team.
So which is it? lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
meant that only 2 of the 3 will be back IF Camarillo stays. I think it’s either him, or one of those 3 getting cut, not him AND one of those 3..
This is also based on the assumption that Wilford will be chopped
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
nice
I love that he’s wearing 84.. quality WR number right there
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wildpat question...
somebody ‘splain to me this…
You got a guy who, as a QB, won four bowl games in college, and was the MVP of the Senior Bowl where he threw a nice 39 yard TD and made a lot of smart plays. He was also the all-time college rushing leader for a QB. (as a side note, he turned down a 6 figure baseball deal to play QB in college) By all accounts, he put in a great showing at the combine as a QB, throwing accurately and with strength.
WHY WOULDN’T HE BE A QB?
I hate to go here/there but if he was white… I mean really, the guy has been an INCREDIBLE QB, wtf?
It has nothing to do with him being black
so don’t spout nonsense.
It has to do with the fact that he played in an option style offense in college, and that you would completely waste some of his best attributes by playing him at the QB position. He’s not a dropback passer, and the best thing about him is that he’s extremely dangerous in the open field and he’s as versatile a weapon as you can get on an offense. QB’s rarely get in the open field, and you really don’t want your starting QB running all the time, because of the injury risks (especially with NFL linebackers able to not only catch him, but kill him when they get there).
Can he be a successful QB? Sure, there’s nothing saying it will never happen. But I believe you’ll get much more out of him by getting him the ball in space and using him at multiple spots to take advantage of his versatility and athleticism. Having him hand off 30 times a game and throw it to lesser playmakers is a waste IMO.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well said
-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He's actually kind of a light brown - like mocha
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
I mean...
OK forget about the black thing… but why do we have to be tied to the traditional definition of QB. Like I said, the guy won 4 bowl games as a QB, not a WR or slash player.
I have a feeling that BP is onto this idea of changing the game. Remember that he was the one who had a personal interest in Jayson Foster?
his QB is not suited for the NFL
like Nicky said, this guy is at his best when he is in the open field, and that rarely happens for an NFL QB…he was an option QB, and that can’t be done in the NFL, the defenses are too fast…he is best suited for a position that allows him to run wild in the open field, like a WR or RB, and in the Wildcat formation…
-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
so...
You guys are saying that the option offense is not doable in the NFL? You think they may wind up using him and Henne switching off?
no
i believe he will be used in the Wildcat in the same position Ronnie was used in last season, and also as a WR in more traditional formations and perhaps even a little at the RB spot…i do not think we will have the 2 QB system with them constantly switching off
-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 28, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
JD Folsom got Cam Wake's old # lol
"the world Chico, and everything in it" -Tony Montana-
creator of cute little bust name "shrimp Patty" for Pat White
i'd like to see pat white = #5
and i think he might go for that also lol
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