Dolphins NFL Draft Grades
Yes - I know I said yesterday that I don't believe in grading drafts so soon. It takes years to really know if a particular team's draft was good or bad. Yet the "talking heads" insist on grading each team's draft the day after the draft is completed.
So I am indeed going to grade the Dolphins' draft. But I'm going to do so in a very different manner. I'm not going to give letter grades for each pick - because that's just dumb and pointless. Instead, I'm going to grade each pick individually based on my reaction to the pick now that we've had some time to digest what occured this past weekend.
Round 1, Pick 25 - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
I came into the draft thinking that our number one priority was the secondary. While others were hoping for a wide receiver like Hakeem Nicks, I was dying for a cornerback that could step right in and start right from day one. Most scouts and "draft experts" agree that Davis is a top 10 talent who fell due to "character concerns." Well I'm not concerned at all about his character. He has never had an off-the-field incident and has no known issues other than he might not work as hard as he could. Our coaches will take care of that. In fact, Vontae himself already said that having Bill Parcells draft you "speaks louder than words." This pick is going to turn out very well - I'm 100% confident in that.
Reaction: Absolutely thrilled
Round 2, Pick 44 - Pat White, QB/WR, West Virginia
Back in March, I wrote a fairly lengthy post making my case for the Dolphins to draft Pat White - which you can read by clicking here. The only thing I was wrong about was saying that the Dolphins probably wouldn't take him before pick 56. But like I said yesterday, it's hard to call the pick a "reach" because we don't know where other teams had White on their boards. But would anyone have been surprised if the Patriots had him rated high? Or the Cowboys? Those are the two teams I think were most likely to nab White. So what's his role going to be? I don't know. I'm not sure if I really buy the company line right now that Jeff Ireland is feeding up - saying he's going to compete at the quarterback position. I think they are saying that to keep Pat himself satisfied. But what I do know for a fact is that White is a proven winner - having never lost a Bowl game - and will bring an element of explosion, excitement, and unpredictability that we've never seen before in the NFL. David Lee and Dan Henning are going to find ways to use Pat White - make no mistake about it.
Reaction: Pleasantly surprised
Round 2, Pick 61 - Sean Smith, CB, Utah
If you have been reading this blog somewhat regularly this offseason, then you probably know how I feel about this pick. Smith has been my top "mancrush" for a while now. I think he possesses such a rare blend of size, speed, and athleticism for a corner that he might have the highest ceiling of any cornerback in this draft. But he is raw at the position, compared to most other college cornerbacks. Smith began his college career as a wide receiver, switching to cornerback in the final two games of 2006. He made the switch to full-time cornerback in 2007 and never looked back - blossoming into the team's top defensive playmaker. My favorite part of Smith's game outside of his measurables, though, is how cocky he is. Like Vontae Davis, Smith brings a swagger to the field - which is something I think cornerbacks need at this level. And if you want to know more about Smith, I'd suggest checking out this piece that was written by a guy who has watched all of Smith's snaps at Utah.
Reaction: Absolutely thrilled - favorite pick in this draft
Round 3, Pick 87 - Patrick Turner, WR, USC
Many people thought the Dolphins needed a big receiver - and you don't get much bigger than the 6'5 Patrick Turner. Turner is a guy who is rather athletic despite his large 22o pound frame. He runs good routes and possesses reliable hands. But he wasn't exactly a stand-out at USC. And that lack of production causes some concern. Why wasn't a huge target like Turner able to produce more against college cornerbacks? That question is impossible for me to answer because I didn't make it a point to watch many USC games over the past 2 years.
Reaction: Optimistic, but there are question marks
Round 4, Pick 108 - Brian Hartline, WR, Ohio State
This pick has puzzled many Dolphin fans. With the selection of Turner a round earlier and already having a number of receivers on the roster, why take another wide receiver - especially one that lacks great collegiate production? But Hartline is a physical receiver who, like Turner, is a good route runner. He's also a very hard worker, from what I hear, and a guy who loves contributing on special teams. But is that enough to spend a fourth round pick on? I'm not sure - but SI's Peter King seems to be a fan of the pick, calling Hartline a "fascinating prospect" and writing, "I don't like Brian Hartline to the Dolphins in the fourth round. I love it."
Reaction: Surprised, but cautiously optimistic
Round 5, Pick 161 - John Nalbone, TE, Monmouth
I understand the reasoning for the pick - with both Anthony Fasano and Davis Martin heading to free agency following the '09 season. And I like Nalbone as a prospect - even listing him in one of my "day two prospects to watch" a few weeks back. He's a very good pass catcher as well as a good blocker. But I can't help but wonder if we might have passed on better potential players to take this kid.
Reaction: Very surprised and slightly disappointed, though I do like the potential the kid possesses
Round 5, Pick 165 - Chris Clemons, S, Clemson
The more I read about this kid, the more I like the pick. We needed some young depth behind our two safeties and Clemons seems like a player who can contribute on special teams right away while he backs up Yeremiah Bell and Gibril Wilson. He's one of the fastest safeties in the draft. He has good size and coverage skills. And he has a ton of experience - as he was a 3 year starter at a bigtime football school in the ACC.
Reaction: Satisfied
Round 6, Pick 181 - Andrew Gardner, OT, Georgia Tech
The Dolphins were clearly lacking depth at the tackle position and Gardner is a guy who has a lot of starting experience at the college level. He has good size, at over 6'6, and is athletic. He's very smart and was a team leader at GT. A shoulder injury probably knocked him down the draft board some. The Dolphins might have gotten very good value with this 6th round pick. At least, that's what Gardner himself thinks, saying "I think I'm really one of the best values in this draft at this position."
Reaction: Satisfied - very good value/potential
Round 7, Pick 214 - J.D. Folsom, LB, Weber State
You know you're in the last round of the draft when the player you take publicly says he didn't expect to be drafted. But this zoology major is going to be battling to make the roster - or at least the practice squad - as a developmental inside linebacker. We know he has solid coverage skills, having played the "rover" position in college. If the Dolphins can make room for him on their practice squad, he'll likely spend the year there to develop.
Reaction: Practice squad candidate - so I don't really have a reaction
So there are my "draft grades" for each pick made by the Dolphins. Overall, I have to say I'm happy with the draft as a whole - especially day one. I love the three picks the Dolphins made on day one. Day two was filled with some question marks, for sure. But let's hold off saying that the Dolphins made bad decisions until we see this guys on the field a few times.
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I’m going to be pissing off a lot of people with Pat White on Madden next year. This goes against everything I’ve ever said about the No Vick rule.
by SDefee on Apr 28, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope that the wildcat is in this years madden
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by Foy on Apr 28, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is
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by DolfinPhan on Apr 28, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really damn that is going to be scary
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by Foy on Apr 28, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gonna be glitchzored online though =(
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by finsxfactor on Apr 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
on most of your “grades”…..still trying to figure out the pat white pick. I really cant wait till training camp opens up. i will def be there to see this guy take the field with the rest of our guys.
by drey34 on Apr 28, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol the grading part is the best..."pleasently surprised"..haha
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by finsxfactor on Apr 28, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 corners in the first four picks...............
i said it over and over again but i never thought it would be this great!!!!!!!! i didn’t think we would have a chance at Davis and i knew for sure Smith would be gone by our 3rd pick….wow……i am so psyched!!!!!!!
i had Butler and Brace for our first 2 picks……..if you were watching you know that the Pats took both of these guys respectively 2 picks before we grabbed Mr. White!!!!!!!!
i am so stoked on this pick……i didnt think BP had the cajones to make such a “sexy” pick….. this absolutely confirms that the Wild Cat will be back in full force…… White wants to play quarterback and he will take some snaps for us for sure……. this guy has more rushing yards than any quarterback in the fbs….EVER! check him out on WIKI….just look at his stats….he is sick…..
the WildCat took off in the league after we started it…..
Pat White with the Dolphins is the beginning of a new wrinkle in the offense of the NFL…..
The game is about to switch from defense to offense again….. watch………
i dont know how long many of you have been watching the NFL but if youve been watching for the last 30 years like i have, you know that there have been serious shifts over the years……remember when the Blitz was the “new” big deal? the 34 defense? as of late, offenses need not one great back but two…….
maybe this isnt the dawning of the professional spread offense……..but it could be the start of a hybrid version of the “option” rearing its head in Miami………
imagine our huge o-line….fasano……..ginn, bess……brown and williams in the backfield and pat white in the shotgun…….. now……youre the defensive coordinator for the other team……..where are we going???? will he run…will he pass….will he hand off….throw the screen….end around with ginn?….throw some guys in motion and forget about it……. oh yeah……WERE BRINGING SEXY BACK…….
Hartline LOVES special teams and if nothing else he has been teammates with Teddy Ginn in high school, college and now the pros……….ginn not only has his family now but he has his best buddy!!!
i totally understand all the size on the offense………i get it……….with all the speed in the defenses today the best way to overpower speed is….well…..with power and with size comes power
and of course we need some depth at tackle…but we knew that already…….and this guy is smart and tough….. 2 things we like around here these days……
now…………..i know i said that all the OLB wanna-be’s were gonna be disappointed……well i hope the vegetarian veteranarian mormon from idaho is good enough for you guys…..i mean he did play for the “WildCats”…….close enough?? too bad he and beck wont be able to share missionary stories……..
pleasantly suprised with our draft this year…..we wanted corners and wideouts……..
you asked for it, you got it……toyota
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand i’m out
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by hwyatt3 on Apr 28, 2009 1:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A joy to read!! Thanks!! I agree completely!!
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by buckeyebill on Apr 28, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about two corners
in the first 3 picks?
i agree, i am pretty satisfied.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 28, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Davis and Smith you can't beat that I was very high on Smith god the other picks dont really get to me
I just like thinking about having two opf the best safties out there and possibly the nextbest corner duo we had since Pat and Sam
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by Foy on Apr 28, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im super excited for the pat white pickup
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by finsxfactor on Apr 28, 2009 2:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
the wildcat is still in its “experimental” stages. but the trifecta is really onto something. when you look at the speed of defenses and the variety of blitzes that these d-cord are coming up with, the name of the game is “getting to the QB”. if you can do that you are going to really disrupt what an offense wants to do. BP and company realize that to evolve in the NFL you have to go out of the box . running this wildcat formation, drafting PW may very well be a move in the right direction. only time will tell. but what i know for sure, is that instead of the d-fense dictating what we will be doing, we put defenses behind the eighball and make them adjust to what we are doing instead. like i said, only time will tell, but i am totally on board.
by dlux2561 on Apr 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John Nalbone
Don’t know too much about this tight-end, but I was very upset when we took him when BIG road grader Duke Robinson could have been had at this position. He was taken only a few picks after Nalbone.
by Bluechips85 on Apr 28, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just want to see how many make the team
and then what impact they make.
But I can’t help but wonder if we might have passed on better potential players to take this kid.
I know you were talking about Nalbone, but when we picked shrimp Patty in the 2nd, thats what I was thinking.
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by uncle finster on Apr 28, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought the same thing at the time sitting in my living room...............
but the more i thought about the better i understood………this guy is really good………..
10 snaps a game…..end arounds…….eventually wideout option………this guy gives us a lot of options……..
we want to play smash mouth football but you just cant run it up the gut 2 out of every 3 plays anymore, defenses are too good for that……..
at the very least this guy will be a good backup……..
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by hwyatt3 on Apr 28, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I truly wish
I had your confidence in White bro, but my eyes tell me something different, but I would be very happy if he proves me wrong:>)
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by uncle finster on Apr 28, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the draft
I really love the first day picks! I like Turners size, but curious about his production in college translating to the NFL. After hearing Hartline likes to crack heads I know he will make the team on special teams. Folsom… I am hopeful becomes similar to the player we all love as Zach Thomas!
My favorite pick is Nalbone, love what I have read on him and am really pulling for him to make the team and be an S.O.D. Got to represent the small town Jersey kid.
What I am worried about is London’s Roster spot.
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by k2oconnor on Apr 28, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
London isn't going anywhere
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
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by chrislucas on Apr 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
London vs. Turner vs. Wilford
for the big possession guy………..i miss oronde gadsden
……..competition…gotta love it
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by hwyatt3 on Apr 28, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overall I thought we had a solid draft
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by Patssuck456 on Apr 28, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is the first time since we had Madison/Surtain that i can't wait for teams to throw on us.
and i really can’t wait to see the Bell/Wilson tandem back there knocking the piss out of anyone who is dumb enough to try and snatch a ball
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by chrislucas on Apr 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good/Bad
I have cornered my anger towards this draft…….its the 2nd day.
2 Swaggery(?) corners is extactly what we needed….on the free agent market these type of guys cost you 5 times what a Eric Green does.
Pat White at 44 or 56….same thing to me. We got him…and hes gonna be exciting….
To me if you didnt go get one of the top WR….then why get yourself another few projects?
I just feel like we coulda got a Macho Harris instead of a Hartline? no? didnt he go in the 5th? That to me is more value.
the rest fo the draft is a wash i guess….i mean who knows right?
draft grades are totally stupid i agree……i give this draft a C…LOL
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by Rzayo24 on Apr 28, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i tend to agree a bit
i agree about the
Pat White at 44 or 56….same thing to mething, mainly because I am thrilled with Sean Smith and didn’t think there was a chance of him being there at 56, so it all works out. You know, i saw some player ratings that had Smith as the #1 CB in this draft.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 28, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 biggest cb is ok by me.
i just hate the 2nd day of the draft….they ran outta players and traded away a pick because they had no idea who to take….they take a guy thats a major project and was ready to be a vet….i mean better value was out there.
even from how they are talking it seems like the 2nd day was a complete disaster. but i cant really make a case to hate ti because they picked guys i know nothing bout.
i dont agree with taking a tight end at all. we have enough….they produced bigtime last yr together….if ur not gonna pay them and thats why then i just dont agree with that.
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by Rzayo24 on Apr 28, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fasano and martin are ties up this year and next.......depth dont hurt
and this is another tough jersey kid that can catch and can be coached to block…..he is even italian like fasano….
fasano….nalbone…. wassa matta fa you????
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by hwyatt3 on Apr 28, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My grades even though it is early
Davis- A-
White- B-
Smith-B+
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by Foy on Apr 28, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could see Hartline and Turner
being the reaches in the draft, just like Lex Hilliard and Jalen Parmele were last year – albeit they were chosen later. They are going into the same situation the RBs were going into: talented guys already playing that position which will make it difficult for them to get a roster spot. Good luck to ’em, I hope they both stand out, but it just looks like its going to be tough.
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by DolfinPhan on Apr 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pat White
I could see us taking 2 corner backs on day one, no problem, but I thought a WR in round 2 was most likely. Glad I was wrong. Glad Sparano and Co had the balls to take Pat White.
His versatility just leaves this question mark for what he could do. It’s a scary prospect because he can either become a huge factor or just some guy. Call me optimistic, but I think he is going to be great.
He releases the ball high up like Drew Brees, he can scramble like a Vick, he wins like Roethelisberger, accurate like Pennington (he did complete 65% of his passes in College). The only thing people knock on him is his arm strength. And apparently its not even that bad.
When he has the ball in his hand you know he is going to take care of it and make a play with it.
I could see him being Miami’s QB of the future if Henne doesn’t work out. If Henne plays well, then Pat White will still be worth a 2nd round pick because NOT using him would be a travesty. Wildcat, slot, QB, RB, returner, I think he can do it all. Lets find out what he can do best, though, then go from there.
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by DolfinPhan on Apr 28, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right on
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by hwyatt3 on Apr 28, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New to the site...
So I’m moving down to the Miami area in a few months so I’m trying to enculturate myself into the dolphins’ community (the graduate school I’m attending actually hosts their training facility, which is awesome). I’m a Saints fan first and foremost, but I love football (and hate the Patriots), so I’ll be a Miami fan by proxy.
Gotta say I love what y’all did in the draft— Smith is awesome, Pat White could be a really beautiful pick, and don’t underestimate the safety Clemons— I really wanted the Saints to grab him if they could and from what I’ve seen he really has the skills to develop into a quality NFL starter in time.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to being a part of the site!
by jful on Apr 28, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome.
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by DolfinPhan on Apr 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
welcome home jful family.......welcome home
move that bus
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by hwyatt3 on Apr 28, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As we see now with...
The releasing of John Beck, Pat White will indeed be a QB, kinda like I said he would.
Anyway he will likely be on the depth chart as #2 QB so we can use him in various wasy. Remember Pat White has a fantastic attitude and that is something that the trifecta loves. Guys with great attitudes are willing to learn anything in the system and this kid as already stated he would. Again as I have said many many times, the pick was not a reach, becuase even if we had kept the #56 pick (remember we picked Sean Smith at #61 and got a 5th rounder from Indy for swapping), White would not have been there at that point, becuase a team like Dalls at #51 would have surely snatched him in that spot.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just because he is a defacto QB
still doesn’t mean they have to list him as one on the roster.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LeftCoast
That has already been decided, when the released Beck it solidified the fact that White will be slotted as a QB.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also Nalbone....
Was a smart pick in this draft because of two glaring reasons.
1) Neither of our top 2 TE’s are blocking TE’s and Nalbone is one
2) Both of our TE’s are FA’s next summer
It was a smart pick because it prepares us for the future
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
restricted fa's
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by hwyatt3 on Apr 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Martin is not a restricted free agent - he's unrestricted following the season
And Fasano would be a restricted free agent following the season ONLY IF there is no uncapped season in 2010. But if they get a new CBA ironed out before the new “league year” next offseason, then Fasano is an unrestricted free agent.
by Matty I on Apr 28, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people on here really kill me-
its not like we have Al Davis in our front office. I liked who I liked, and I rooted for certain players to get drafted obviously. But at the end of the day, I don’t spend the whole year breaking coaching down tape, I don’t interview coachs, I don’t talk to players or see them workout personally.
I know we have a dedicated FO that does their homework, so while basically and pick in the draft is a gamble – at the end of the day either I love a pick at the best, or I’m cautiously optimistic at worst – but I’ll take Parcells draftboard over my own until its proven he’s gone senile.
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by GatorPhan on Apr 28, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
geez gator!
when did you turn into Andy Cohen?
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Turner
I like this pick. His first two years at USC he was a back up behind Steve Smith and Dwayne Jarrett. His junior season he really got a chance to see the field but he had a new QB in John David Booty and then Sanchez later on. He really didn’t do anything special until his senior season when he had Sanchez the whole year. The one thing I like about his game in college is that he always got better year in and year out. I think he’ll be able to help us out by going across the middle, moving the chains on 3rd down and eventually becoming a good blocker in the running game.
Matt
by Matt27 on Apr 28, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i like that pick also
the only real knock on him is his speed.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speed...
Which isnt really a big deal because we will likely use him most in short yardage and goalline situations. He gives us great size that this WR core lacks and he has great hands.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HELLO........6'5"..........paris hilton says that's hot
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by hwyatt3 on Apr 28, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree re:Turner
I agree with your statements. Also Sanchez was a big fan of his and he felt that he was his go to receiver. Remember, the Trojans have so many weapons on offense that there is not going to be a runner or receiver that has stats like some of these other schools. Turner is exactly what we need in the red zone that we have not had since Gadsden.
by sundevil11 on Apr 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sean smith
is going to be an absolute beast. great pick
by ncfinfan on Apr 28, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Clemons is my guy to watch in this draft, besides Pat White.
He seems to be a clone of Gibril Wilson and Bell. He has all the tools that you look for. Good size, great strength, and great speed. Like Matty said, the guy is a 3-year starter at a big time school. What a solid addition to the secondary at the end after adding Davis and Smith.
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by AussieKen on Apr 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone's draft grade...
Should be a C right now. Come back in 2 years and change the grade up or down from there based on performance. Nobody has a freaking clue about these players and how they will project out to the NFL.
Look at some of these top-10 picks over the last couple years:
- Vince Young
- D’Brickashaw Ferguson
- Vernon Davis
- Alex Smith
- Cedric Benson
- Adam “PACMAN” Jones
- Mike Williams
- JaMarcus Russell
Etc. Picking players is not a science by any means. Some of these sure-fire picks turned into crap and vise versa. I think grading everyone’s draft – while fun – is little more than that and can’t be done for several years.
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by azphinner on Apr 28, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dolphins 2009 Draft
I was extremely pleased the Dolphins addressed cornerback on the first day of this year’s draft. Cornerback was the most pressing need Miami had coming into the draft. To pick two of the top five cornerbacks in Vontae Davis and Sean Smith was an added bonus. Since all the top receivers were gone after Miami had chosen Davis, I think the Dolphins were extremely wise to select Pat White with their second pick of the draft. If New England and other teams in the AFC East were confused with the Wildcat offense, adding White gives Miami so many more additional options to work with. I expect teams like the Patriots will really have their hands full now. On Day One, I would give Miami an A-plus for their draft selections.
On Day Two, the team seemed to reach on a few of their picks. I was happy with the selection of wide receiver, Patrick Turner. However, I was disappointed Miami didn’t look towards Cornelius Ingram of Florida in Round Four, and Duke Robinson in Round Five. Adding both players from established programs would have made this draft a complete success. Instead it seemed the team reached for players, Brian Hartline and Johnathan Nalbone. Their other selections I thought were relatively good quality picks. I would rate Day Two a C-minus since Miami didn’t acquire any player of true significance.
Overall, I think the 2009 Draft was quite successful. I think the players Miami added will not only stabilize certain positions on the team, but also add depth and create lots of excitement both offensively and defensively. I would rate this draft with a Grade-B.
by Greenrider on Apr 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
te wise...i was really pulling for james casey out of rice..would've been a great addition. very versatile and has terrific hands
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