NFL Draft Day Two Overflow Thread #2
by Matty I on Apr 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT
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PrintRound 6 will be getting underway shortly. Interesting day two for the Dolphins. Many aren't too fond of the decisions made. But let's see how things shake out before we all cry about the sky falling.
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Not first!!!
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I'm saying round 6...
But that’s about as close as I am goin to go for guessing where they go with the next pick
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously guessign doesnt work b/c we've been baffled by our last 4 picks
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whos watching boston-chicago?
Laces out!
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I'm flipping back and forth between the draft, the NASCAR race, and the Chi-Bos game
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
third
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so we pick again soon
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Does it seem like to anyone else that we are drafting guys to help special teams?
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yes special teams and filling out back end of rosetr with youth
Confidence breeds success, self-doubt breeds failure
although if i'd picked for the (spit) Pats
Butler Brace Barwin & Barden: 4Bs or not 4Bs, that is da Q
YOU GUYS ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT PAT WHITE
We Drafted him to be a blocker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2DmuK91efw&feature=rec-exp_stronger_rn
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I want Ricky Jean-Francois NEXT!
We need a DT. He is a beast!
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well he's right
Pat White was a day 1 pick lol…
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
we all know shit thats what we know
if you dont believe me look at our predictions for the last 4 weeks , we didnt have a clue about how parcells really thinks, not one thing
yeah and we also said the rebuilding process was just in its 2nd year
and needed to build inside out and depth and go and draft a luxury player at 44 and 2 WR plus 2 Cb. We got it all wrong, strange draft
we were mislead.....i remember reading
an article in the sunsentinel…..paraphrasing what jeff ireland said….we have many needs at different positions….?uhhh? Just WR/CB ?
thats not what our GM said
he’ll be used in many ways….but he’s not really a WR
i think we’ll see him lined up in the backfield more than split out wide
absolutely no one was right we got it the entire thing wrong
Parcells doesnt draft Corners in round 1 – Boom Vontae Davis
We are not going to get Wideouts, we are not still in that phase of the rebuillding process- 2 WR 3th and 4th picks
We are building inside out we still have too many holes, Parcells is looking for the next LT- No LB drafted whatsoever
Anywhere we may need depth
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
My knowlege pool of the players available has just about run out
Basically turning to you guys now
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No that was our pick at #108
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
I thought we had 181 and 191… maybe not?
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So, are the Jags officially blue now?
Cause that jersey looks like a Panthers jersey.
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WOOOOHOOOO!!!!
A HURRICANE WAS DRAFTED!!!! SPENCER ADKINS ALRIIIIIIIGHT!!!!
THAT JUST MADE MY FREAKIN DAY!!
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, ND was a while ago....
Round 4 the Broncos took a FS from ND
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
They still play football?
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't
It’s never on TV
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh...my bad...
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
man
a couple good years and you Gator fans get all hyped up like you’re USC or something lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Well, we are the only school in Florda worth anything anymore…
I mean, I guess USF is trying to get good.
lol
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha that's funny
We’ll see.. Just remember Miami is actually getting recruits and developing them now that Coker is gone.. You got 1 year left on top
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Well, when Tebow is in his 8th year of college…wait, he can’t do that? Ahhh..crap we’re screwed…
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
at least you’re honest about it :-)
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Eagles have had a great draft IMO
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
one of the best
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Wow. What a freaking play!
Wow!
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
no kidding
that deserves the Sam Cassell Balls Dance
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
BEN GORDON TIES IT UP WITH A GORGEOUS 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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this bball game is getting quite rediculous!
Laces out!
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Best picks - 6th Round
Here are the top 5 picks the Dolphins have made in the 6th round:
1. Reggie Roby
2. Yeremiah Bell
3. Rex Hadnot
4. Doug Betters
5. Ed Perry
As expected, the 6th round is hit-or-miss, but who knows?
Definitely hope so
He has the potential to be up there, that’s for sure.
by Saxonthebeach on Apr 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
DRAFT THREAD HIJACK LOL
I’m kidding, but that game is insane right now.. Rondo just got a REAL GOOD look at a 17 footer, and bricked it
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
See my post two down...
Thinking the same thing…
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said earlier sorry to get off topic...
but this CHI-BOS is crazy nuts, double OT!
Uh-oh Matty
We are floating with the off topic line…but this basketball game is nuts
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lol
Half the site gets banned for talking basketball…and somehow FXF isn’t involved in the banning…
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I predict Sammie Lee Hill 181
Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and a 5th Rounder. Trio > me.
doh, missed it in the fourth round
I guess I’m 100% wrong
Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and a 5th Rounder. Trio > me.
Who does everyone want to see now?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
Ok so now we know who the Dolphins WONT pick lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
You what the worst part is
I don’t get or see the plan. Sign Green in FA, the draft 2 CB’s, now they are probably gonna release Green. Take White at least one round early to play WR presumably, then draft 2 WR on day 2. And now, don’t fill any needs at LB or NT when the chance presented itself. I don’t get it.
They run the option at GT
he’s a power blocker at the tackle position
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Andrew Gardener
OT GEorgia TEch
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
We took a T
Andrew Gardner/…GT
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RZ has been in the dark pissed all day....comes out for
a few sec then goes back in…..i feel ya brotha all these homers sayin were havin a great draft……not IMO
Profile on Gardner
http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/Andrew-Gardner.php
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Does someone want to explain to me why so many of yall are pissed about our draft?
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For one thing JT better come back or Matt Roth better step it up because our LB situation worries me
Not Happy with wtf we did this weekend....effin bullshit
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why?
I LOVED say one. Day two is a little iffy, though. But I’m sure there’s reasons why they are doing what they are doing.
We addressed the Defense
Last year, our Defense was the reason we won most of those. We needed the improve the offense and that is exactly what we are doing
I dont get why everyone is so upset too
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
and our def was bad real bad sometimes
after akin who is our back up ILB….wat about DT….we took 2 WR in the 4th quite possibly the most important time in the draft…..
The part of our defense
That was bad was our secondary, NOT our front 7
We addressed that by getting 2 CBs and a Safety, I would say that is pretty good
But I guess you know more they the trifecta lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i know that we have an 34 yr old DT
to ILB who just simply are not playmakers. I agree about the secondary….we needed upgrades…but like i said to take 2 WR in the 4th was terrible……if you cant see then u just dont know much about football
we also have Soliai
and 2 FA’s we signed to try as NT’s. They must be high enough on them that they didn’t think we needed to draft one. Or they didn’t think any of the options in the draft were any good.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
NOAH!!!!!!
What a block and rebound!!!!!
GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Top 4 were good picks
Hartline wasn’t a good one IMO
The TE is a nice pickup, and he’s a Parcells favorite (small school, jersey kid)
Gardner will be a good depth pickup because he’s a solid run blocker
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yea we need a tight end bad...not a lb
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relax killer
Apparently the FO likes Roth, Ayodele, and Wake. Deal with it
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
and dont forget
Taylor is probably coming back…there’s a reason we havent drafted a lb
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I agree with you
but apparently Parcells and co doesn’t
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Who did pick?
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We needed a lot of things and filled those holes with great guys
Every person we drafted has potential to be good or great, they just need coaching. WE have the staff to train them properly
and again will someone tell me why some of yall are so pissed?
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what channel is the bulls on? cant watch us take asshole nobodies anymore
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
so you dont like the draft because they are "nobodies"?
why are they nobodies? cus u havent heard of some? i dont get it
And Davis sure as hell isnt a "nobody" for that matter
He scared people in the big ten last year
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I don't know who some of these guys are. But I can see the positions that they play.
Essentially 3 WR’s were drafted. That means Bess, Cam, or London will probably not be on the team. The phins had one of the most productive TE’s in the NFL, so they draft another one. And they signed Green to play CB in FA, then draft two CB high. Green is now probably going to be released. So what is the plan?
let's see
Green is terrible. Equate him to the David Kircus signing last year. Remember him? No, because he was cut after we signed Wilford instead.
Martin and Fasano are both FA’s after this season, so getting a TE now to adapt to our system is smart in case we don’t re-sign one of them. And you know how important the TE is in our offense.
Look a little harder and you can see the thinking behind most of the picks. Except Hartline. I don’t get that one
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
And they have 2 TEs who are FAs after the year.
And you know 99% of us will be saying we can only sign them IF they are cheap. They both won’t be cheap. Why not lock up some youth right now at TE, and then only worry about signing on of the FAs at the end of the year?
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well cam got hurt remember that
London is unproven and Wilford was a mess…..Green was insurance
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curse again and ur gonna force me to ban you
you know the rules….just cus ur angry doesn’t mean you can talk like a sailor.
Whoa...
Matty’s getting angry.
Cool it RZ
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
dude u and everyone else has been cursing for days....
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u pick and choose who gets to curse and what curse word is ok?
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uh no
but one here or there is fine…but enough is enough….hence the warning
so now that u got the warning, u probably shouldnt do it again
wow....its like that Matty?
okie dokie then but thats poopie
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The Hartline pick is the one I have issue with
Parcells is going for depth at this point, I have full confidence in what they are doing.
But I guess you guys now more than they do lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
NOAH AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!
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He just might
But this game is just too damn good….
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm cool with this pick (finally)...
i was reading an old scouting report on him and they were projecting him to be a first or secound rounder…
I just do hope Wake is something especial i thought we pick a NT mid round.
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I think so too
The FO seems to like him….
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
as do all the other teams who wanted him
dont forget that we won out over a good amount of other squads
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RZ
you’re acting like a little punk right now.. quit crying and whining and throwing a tantrum and explain why you don’t like the draft.
I can’t understand why you don’t like the WR’s picked since you were one of the leaders of the “we have crappy WR’s” bandwagon leading up to the draft..
The Trifecta must like the guys they got at LB, and they picked up a couple depth guys on the DL. I’m guessing they have high hopes for Wake and they think Roth can really step his game up this year.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed Nick
Also, Ill keep saying it…Taylor’s coming back theres a reason why passed on Rey and havent drafted a single lb
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I don't see anything I don't like about this draft.
I think a few of the picks have been surprsies, but like I Said earlier – this front office seems to have the plan to identify the need, make a pick, then back it up just in case the first guy flops.
Yeah, Hartline was probably a stretch, but if there wasn’t anything else they liked, the front office may as well have taken him. Can’t hurt to have another WR come in when we have such a HUGE need at the position…
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I cant agree more
Sure this draft hasnt been “perfect” but I love what they done with it
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heartline? thats a fucking dgo medicine not a wr
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NT
its hard for a NT to come in and be productive so maybe the trifeca realized that and plans on trading for one or they are waiting to see who gets cut
Bess Stays
For me it will be Wilford
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Seeing as Bess and Wilford wont be delt itll be beck
But wilford will be cut
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Beck, Wilford, will be gone
Bess, Camarillo, and London. 2 of those 3 will be gone also to make room for White, Turner, and Hartline.
Bess isn't going anywhere IMO
I think he’s the cheapest guy on the team (?) and he produced
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Bess stays.
Wilford gone.
Beck only gone if we get a GOOD trade for him. Otherwise, he continues as the #3, and White is a WR.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he'll see much PT while Pennington is here
he needs a couple years to develop I think
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
CP10 will be on the team
This year only probably, I think he will be there as a great mentor to help Henne and White develop
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
my take
half a retard 1st rd pick…just cuz hes big. benched sr, yr. asshole waiting to happen….
then we take white way to early…rebuilding team taking a gimmick slash at 44 is unexceptable
smith ehh….good pick
those wr ….we have no room!!! and they are who?
a tight end? bullshit
at 25 and 44 passing on some great players for davis and white is not a good draft i dont care what u say
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Well you are in the minority that thinks so
But again I guess you know more than the trifecta LMAO
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that White is questionable,
but Davis was the best available for a postion we needed the most
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I don't get why you hate Vontae Davis?
He’s as talented a corner as there is. Our front office met with him a lot. They talked with his college coach – Ron Zook. They clearly don’t see his personality being a problem and he has STAR potential.
I like Davis as a player. But in most other draft classes he would have 3rd or 4th on the board and probably a 2nd round pick.
Going into this draft, experts were saying that the CB class lack speed. And that is the most important aspect of the position. There were 7 LB’s that I thought should have been taken prior to the 1st CB. 3 of those LB’s were available for the phins. That is why I don’t like the Davis pick. Give me average CB’s and a dominant pass rush and I will take my chances.
anything ron zook says is complete (not allowed)
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Pat White
Gives us tons of versatiltity, that is why he was picked
The one pick I dont like is Hartline
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah easily the most questionable pick of the draft...
I think we could have had him in the 6th or 7th if not a FA.
No way Jaydee
All the experts said Pat White would have been gone by our next pick at 56
No way we get him that late
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Davis wont be a little bitch under htis coaching
And do you think Porter and Crowder will let him run his mouth? not a chance
White isnt a gimmick. How much production did we see out the wildcat? its an evolution of this game at the pro level
Hearltine and Turner could both turn out great especially Turner whos a big guy
Martin and Fasano are in last years of their contracts….its insurance
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Well let’s not judge the guy just because he got benched, they wouldn’t have taken him if they we’re not convince he didn’t have character issues. I give the FO the benefit of the doubt until the season begins. The 2 wr i agree we co;uld of done better there but the better WR we’re gone by that point. We address CB, WR and OT and got a potential game changer with White. But then again what do I know, is just my opinion.
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I agree with you...
about White, but def not Davis…
The picks that really ticked me off were the back to back receivers with much better players on the board.
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well the knock on Sidbury is he can't defend the run
so maybe that’s what drove the Trifecta away from him…
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
nah but it wasn't just sidbury..
had it been just one player i deemed better than those receivers, then drafting them is passable, but i felt there were a ton of better players… hell, i think we could have gotten both of those receivers in rds 6-7
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well the way WR's have come off the board today
you’re probably wrong. There’s been 2 runs on WR’s in every round… hell 3 WR’s from UNC got drafted already..
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Because you had heard of Camarillo, Bess, London before?
Just pointing out, not hearing of a WR doesn’t mean he can’t contribute.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well there are certainly more mixed opinions about this years draft than last years
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I disagree with you immensely
We needed CB that was our biggest weakness
We also need WR and we upgraded there hopefully
Our defense was good last year, I really dont see where the gripe is because no one who has a problem with this draft has explained why.
A reach for each pick? If you want a guy and you know he wont be availabe with your next pick, it is never a reach to snag him
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The FO picked a player at the position that they wanted.
But I haven’t heard one draft expert, the guys who make the big money to rate these players, suggest that the position drafted was the next best available. Turner was rated 6th or 7th rounder. Hartline the same. The TE from Monmouth was a 7th rounder or FA. Where those guys were picked, that is a reach. I don’t know much about those players but for the most part I trust the experts.
You draft your needs not the best available in the later rounds
How many times in this draft have we watched the Top 10 best available list only to see a team, any team pick someone that is off that top 10 list that they needed?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I trust Mike mayock
and he has been complimentary of the TE both WRs and the OT and he predicts White to be offensive rookie of the year shrugs
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Anyone think Donald Thomas was going to be the stud everyone is saying he is?
I love the late rounds because it is not sexy but that is where Parcells earns his paycheck. Anyone can pick Jake Long. Picking Davone Bess takes talent….
Give these late rounders a chance.
And of course they’re success had alot to do with CP10 bud, it all goes hand in hand and an improved O line also. Hopefully Bess and Camarillo’s comeback along with these additions will boost our offense.
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Please
the drafts not even over and many are making predictions…..let’s hold tight here and see what kind of team is on the field opening day
I must say these 2 receivers we picked are a BIT questionable to me
especially the Ohio State one
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exactly Matty
Really the secondary was our big weakenss on the D last year, we improve that by drafting 2 CBs and a safety, all of whom are good picks
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
guys..
just about every single draft projection, including all of ours, were so far off, that sititng here and saying “so and so was a bad pick, we could’ve got him in round 6” is ridiculous. Think about it. Nobody here got any of the projections right, so talking about how we could’ve got people at later spots like you know for sure is a joke, and I’m sure you know it as well as I do.
Stop acting like draft experts still, even after this entire draft proved none of us know crap.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
Well said again Nicky
I am sure the trifecta has a vision, remember these 3 got us to 11-5 after a 1-15 season, why should be doubt them now
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
O and Zack Folette is still on the bord
played pretty well at LB in California
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Just think where we be if the new regime hadn’t taken over Dolphins football? yeah exactly my point.
Is the Wandtstach and Rick Spielman blowing away picks on wasted talent
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All im saying is
these guys picked like they let some make a wish kids pick the last two days
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wow..
but if WNY Fins Fan came in and said that, you’d call him a Jet fan and a space cadet
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The draft is over?
Wow ok I didnt realize the draft was over yet lol
Wake will be fine
You guys worry too much
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
mmmmmmmmmmmmm 7th rd pick dt...yea ur right lets get one!!!!!
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You dont know where you will find....
The gems
I bet if you were a Pats fan you would have killed them for getting Brady at 199 LOL
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna guess that
they like our depth at LB and NT a little better than they like our WR’s. Roth, Wake, Walden.. they must feel like those guys are better than London, Camarillo, Wilford etc..
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
We dont need an lb right now
cause of Wake, Roth busting out potentially and Taylor has a good chance of coming back…and have you seen any nt’s available who could fit Ferguson’s profile? (one could have taken after Vontae)
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LOL. I am gonna steal that line.
guys picked like they let some make a wish kids pick the last two days
Classic.
White i love.......later.
im not gonna go off on ppl i have never heard of…..but i heard of what they passed and i cant believe it
the patriots my god…..just unfair by the way
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uhh and like 5 others yes...then they backup that pick with a 3rd string qb wr
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oh then we take 2 more wr.....cuz they are tall
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Well then maybe you should become a Pats fan lol
Cuz no one on here can convince you otherwise LOL
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
when you say it like that
it makes us seem like Al Davis, Drafting for height instead of 40 time
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yea matty i talked to parcells
u tell me where we are gonna put like 7 wr…..tell me
cammarillo and wilford are on this team….cutting them kills u in the cap
bess
london
ginn
white
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cutting them hurts your cap for exactly 1 season
we aren’t gonna be the 49ers screwed with the cap for 10 years
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven't we all been screaming all year that we need a big TALL WR?
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
But who everyone says will copst too much to get...
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Kiper who has been wrong all draft?
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
or a good one would work.
ik hope they all kickass……but i find this draft hurting my stomach.
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no thats just the brainwashed zombies
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whos brainwashed?
no one is but when three new guys turn a team from 1 win to 11 in one season, im inclined to trust them
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Poeple who NEEEEEEED a tall wr
its a myth a wr has to be extremely tall
2 inches doesnt make a diffrence unless its in my pants
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We passed on the strength of the draft in round #1, rush OLB / DE's
instead select a CB that is slow when compared to other top CB’s selected in previous years. RZ has a legit gripe IMO.
Need is apparently overrated
You should draft by flashy name, “expert” analysis, and big school I guess
Seems to be working for Oakland.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough said Mosul lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
of course how could I forget
We should draft according to Mel Kiper’s Big Board, forget need
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Were the NYG CB's great when they won the Superbowl?
How about the Pittsburgh CB’s? I don’t think so. Both those teams had great pass rush though.
Why does any disagreement with what the FO does
evolve into “so you know more about building a Super Bowl team than Parcells?” I never claimed to know more than Parcells.
But since you asked, what superbowl team has Parcells built? He has coached a few, but never built one. And it is hard to win the superbowl when you can’t win a playoff game. And the teams that he has built hasn’t won one of those since ’98.
my point is there are many ways to build championship teams
and i’ve said all offseason that i wanted corners and I’m pumped that we got 2 good ones
I agree. There are many ways to build superbowl teams
but when was the last one built around CB’s? A lot of them have been built around guys who can rush the passer. Are you satisfied with the pass rush that was generated last year?
no
but I was far more worried about our corners…cus outside of W.Allen, they stink
and Cam Wake is basically a 3rd round OLB….cant forget him
But we don't know what Wake will do in the NFL.
There was a reason he was in Canada. I don’t like the fact that everyone is counting on him to replace Porter. Wouldn’t have been nice to see multiple guys trying out for the same position?
I like the fact that we went and got him and signed him
when half the league wanted him.
Canada isn’t the NFL, but it’s still Pro ball, and he racked up 39 sacks in 2 seasons. He can get to the QB, that’s a fact. If we think he’s the guy, why spend more money at that position on a guy that won’t play?
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
But you were the guy defending the TE pick
because the 2 TE’s currently on the roster are FA’s after next year. If you count Wake, the phins have two guys who can rush the passer. If Porter is on the downside, why not draft 1 more guys who can rush the passer? Can you ever have enought of those guys?
how are those connected??
We may need a STARTING TE after this season.. If Wake is the guy, you don’t need a starting Rush LB.
We jumped all over Erik Walden once he was waived last year as well.. so we don’t know how they feel about him as a LB either, but supposedly he’s learning the Rush backer position behind Wake and Porter.
And what’s the problem with waiting till next year to get one, when there may be a guy we like better, and we can take one higher?
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no problem taking one next. I would take one every year.
If it is OK to build depth at other positions, why not rush OLB? You need at least 2 and other than Porter, I can’t name the other one. Until I see Wake do it, I am not convinced. My point is, why just rely on Wake? Why not 2 or 3 and see who is best?
well this year we're counting on Porter and Wake
next year we’ll probably draft one and pair him up with Wake
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a fact:
Wake isn’t any more unproven than a rookie pass rusher. They’re all question marks, whether its a CFL guy or its a guy out of Texas or USC or any other college.
Wake is more proven than any of the guys in the draft
he performed against pro players. Canada or not, it’s still professional football
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree, too
but i just dont see how people can say he’s unproven and then say we should have drafted Player X – he’s just as unproven
How many guys have come from Canada a made a big impact in the NFL?
Seriously, I can’t think of any. Doug Flutie. If you can come up with someone comparable to what you think Wake will be, I would love to hear it.
Saying there are no others isnt fair
The same couldve been said against Flutie and look what happened
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many of the players who play in canada
have played in college. that means they play not only with the same college experience as the players being drafted now, but theyve gained more experience, and faced more situations.
If you can succeed in Canada, you are imo more proven than someone coming out of college.
Does it mean you’ll succeed, not necessarily, but there shouldn’t be a hit on the guy cuz he comes from Canada.
By the way, wake is a beast!
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The cowboys wouldve one under him
and everyone has different styles. Its not fair to use the giants and steelers as examples when they are two out of how many?
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no..
but they weren’t Jason Allen and Eric Green either… that gets you at the bottom of the league
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're okay with a CB group like this?
25 Allen, Will CB 5-10 195 8/5/78 9 Syracuse ’01 Syracuse, NY UFA, ’06 (NYG)
21 Green, Eric CB 5-11 196 3/16/82 5 Virginia Tech ‘05 Clewiston, FL UFA, ’09 (Ari.)
27 Billingsley, Will CB 5-10 195 4/23/84 1 North Carolina A&T ’08 Ft. Wayne, IN FA, ’08
22 Thomas, Joey CB 6-1 195 9/29/80 4 Montana State ’04 Burien, WA FA, ’08
32 Allen, Jason CB 6-1 200 7/5/83 4 Tennessee ’06 Muscle Shoals, AL D1, ’06
35 Babers, Scorpio CB 5-11 185 11/6/83 1 West Texas A&M ’08 Carrollton, TX FA, ’08
33 Jones, Nathan CB 5-10 185 6/15/82 6 Rutgers ’04 Scotch Plains, NJ UFA, ’08 (Dal.)
We keep getting killed by the spread offense (see AZ and NE), and yet we should ignore the coverage guys because obviously the weakness was getting to the QB.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
funny how people made fun of davis for barely being able to speak....and now they love him
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Not going to lie I wanted butler WAY more than Davis
and it pisses me off the the pats got him, but I can live with that because we got a corner back
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people said the same things about Harvin and Nicks
they’re both dumb as hell according to Wonderlics and rumors.. would you have been happy with either of them? I’m pretty sure you would.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets see what did Marino get on the wonderlic....
oh thats right a 15 or something like that? Since when do we care how they talk? Davis WAS the secondary at Illonois who used to suck and has been pretty damn good the past few years
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Physically
Vontae Davis is the best CB in this draft.. we dropped him because of character issues.. Parcells/Ireland/Sparano obviously feel like they can control those issues or they wouldn’t have taken him..
So IMO we got the best CB in the draft at the end of round 1. good pick
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
uhh not my point but good try
whatever…its not like he sucks….just saying we had a homerun draft in from of us and we bunted/
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dude get off evereete brown
im talking overall..
everette brown doesnt let davis pull up his zipper after he pees by the way ull see
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Don't the cover guys have to be on the WR long enough for the pass rush to get there?
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooops...wrong place...
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 26, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that makes sense
but apparently you can just sack the QB immediately and put guys in wheelchairs out there to cover people
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
shows how much we know right? 32 teams passed on him 4+ times, and we thought he was a second rounder.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess so
either way, I can admit I didn’t get shit right in this draft, so I’ll differ to the teams who actually do, and figure things out from there
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Slow? Davis and Smith ran average speeds, and they are big and physical
25th pick - CB Vontae Davis
44th pick - LB Clint Sintim
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since my comments were the same as matty, i get a rec right?
25th pick - CB Vontae Davis
44th pick - LB Clint Sintim
56th pick - DT Ron Brace
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by Heater OsE on Apr 26, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Again you are missing this
What is the point of getting guys WE DONT NEED just becuase they are the best available
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
So we did not need CB or WR then? i bet to differ there.
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Finnatic I was making that point
Not going against it, WE needed CB and WR and our needs are more important than who is the best available
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Butler was passed by how many teams?
And ill give you brace but how many other guys are questionable? how about that german lineman from houston? that was a huge reach
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we def improved
looking over the pats roster and their picks im a little worried but even with the toughest schedule we will still give them a run for their money. I really liked the UCONN players too bad we didnt get Butler instead of white…..oh well go PHINS!!!
What happened to all the brotherhood and fun we all were having earlier
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My head hurts now lol
Too many pessimists
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
we're tired of fun, now to killing each other with speculation
25th pick - CB Vontae Davis
44th pick - LB Clint Sintim
56th pick - DT Ron Brace
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Whats next?
Oh we should have taken Beanie Wells cuz he is the BEST AVAILABLE, even though we have absolutely no need for him what so ever
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
25th pick - CB Vontae Davis
44th pick - LB Clint Sintim
56th pick - DT Ron Brace
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U ALWAYS DRAFT BEST AVAIL. IRELAND HIMSELF SAID THAT. AND HE DIDNT DO IT
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ur right......its was his board..i just think they changed and went for need not best
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Patriots just drafted a Line Specialist ROFL
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I'm out
This thread has become a constant beat down. I’ll see you guys later!
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The Patriots also traded Ellis Hobbs which cleared 2.25 mil in cap space, some are saying that possibly making space for JT that would be interesting to those thinking he will sign with the Fins after this draft ouch…
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Listen its easy to say all this stuff now that the draft is almost over
But if we had take Rey Rey with 25 then the pats take butler, who knows whether we still get a corner. Then everyone is bitching that we didnt pick up a corner.
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If fans ran organizations it would be a debacle, we all wanted different players, but is not about that, we don’t get paid to do this, these ppl spent months and years studying prospects, is all about how they fit our system, how well they are coached, is different for every player.
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Neither Beckwith or Worrell Williams have been drafted..
Possible targets in the 7th?
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Um so on a a Lighter note
What Number will Pat White be on our team? DC$ has #5
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well if he's gonna be a WR
he needs either 90’s or in the teens.. I’ll say 11?
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
he should be 1
i think its open…and on that note i wanna see the new wr’s take some 80’s numbers
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not at the beginning of the season
but i think he’ll take over midway through
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Vontae can't be number 1
he has to be 20-49..
I think he’ll go with 21
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, i thought he meant the #1 corner, LOL
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Ill say it again
Id love to see Michael Bennet for depth and potential start….the guy is a monster but just needs good coaching
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Pat White
i wasnt a fan on where he was picked but hey it will be super fun watching him play for us and he will give opposing coaches nightmares in the film room :)
right
once the draft is over, it really doesn’t matter WHERE you got anybody, because all we want now is these guys to contribute. If White is a solid player for us, then it was a good pick, because it’s better than getting a bust
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see you sitting there all stoic
fist to chin, in deep thought… nodding to yourself going “that would be a steal, hmmm”
lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
PREDICTIONS FOR NUMBERS!!!!
Im overly excited but thats ok….
Pat white #1 (armstrong has 11 and 1 would be ba)
Vontae Davis #30
Sean Smith #31 (both starters in two years…be cool to make those numbers awesome and to be bad asses together)
Patrick Turner #84 (hell be great imo and needs a solid number)
Brian Hartline #89 (again, we need more wr’s with 80’s)
The others dont really matter to me lol
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The Clemson Corner was a great pick at 165
What # would you give him?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
White
could only be #1 if he’s listed as a QB
I’d give him 11 as a WR
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
but 1 would be awesome imo…
and we should call him “flash” imo as well
any nickname ideas?
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lol
Flash is taken down here..
he can be Pat White lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i approve
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CMON BENNETT!!!
I want an aggie on this team so when he’s awesome and can tell everyone about how i used to see him on campus lol
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i bet we go with the jennings RB next
what up all
by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 26, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
Pick is in......
JD Folsom OLB/Weber St
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions
There is your LB ppl
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yup
everybody begging for a OLB, shut up lol
Somebody get some info on JD Folsom Prison Blues
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL yea there is your linebacker
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
ran a search
nothing came up on him…
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greaaat
just like the Raiders guy in round 2 lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh well a crappy pick then LMAO
In other news a terrifying crash at Talladega involving Carl Edwards
But he and everyone else is ok
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah yeah car crash ok ok
tell me about Folsom lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No Nicky I hate Nascar, but this crash was CRAZY in the air and almost into the stands
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no kidding?
you convinced me I’m going to look lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
His name starts with an F ends with an M and has a olso in between
Oh and he was picked by the Dolphins as an OLB in round 7
Anything else? lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
what does JD stand for??
where’s finsx? I guarantee we’d get a “John Dorian? haha I love scrubs” comment from him right about now lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
only thing i could find is that he was 2nd team All-Big Sky in 2007
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Rated 25th out of 54 on this poll:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Player+Rankings/2009/InsideLBs.htm
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ok
but it wouldnt make sense, he’s 25th, ellerbee is still available i think, and he’s 7th, worrell williams is still available, he’s 10th, ton of other guys available as well
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Ellerbee is coming off a knee injury
Worrell Williams is small for the 3-4 I believe.. and they’re both ILB
Folsom was listed as an OLB
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
can't link in the title bar
put it here in the body
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
goofy white guy
played the Rover position at Weber St. which I’ll assume is a SS/Monster position in a 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 defense. 6’3 230..
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Rover is a postion in the 3-3-5 we play at my highschool
its a Wide side LB/Safety. Means he can move, blitz, and tackle well, as well as drop into coverage
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yeah that's what I'm thinking
special teamer to start, learn the Rush backer spot
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
wow the pats got tate? i missed that.....damn.
wadda draft
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I dont understand ill be honest
so they loaded their team with 2nd and 3rd rounders…they still have an aging o line and Moss wont produce like he did last year. And I dont care what anyone says, Brady is still a question mark
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they drafted great today
they loaded up on picks this year and next, and got good value in the 2nd round.. say what you want about NE, but Belichick is a wizard on draft day
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
the problem is
if anybody can sustain success, it’s them. You saw how, even without the Franchise with Brady injured, they still won 11 games, and that was with a fairly old and slow defense… I hate to say it but they’re one of the benchmarks in this league, and if you have to emulate anyone, they aren’t a bad choice
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but for how long have they feasted on the East because weve all sucked?
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I'm not saying we won't compete with them
but there won’t be a downfall.. they’ll be right there with us at the top of the division year in and year out.. seems like the AFCE (outside of Buffalo) will be damn competitive once again
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
you're right
all I’m saying is they keep re-upping and adding to that core.. it won’t be the same Patriots team, but it’ll still be a good Patriots team
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly, if the Jets FO doesnt screw up too bad
they will be a hell of a team too. Im counting on Vernon Gholston to really develop under Bart Scott and Rex
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nope
haven’t even heard him mentioned
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont know about you guys but i really cant complain about this draft
Our first 4 picks were great i especially like turner
by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 26, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
the pat white pick is very interesting
i think he provides great competition for henne, just look at what the FO did last year. They brought in player after player to compete and having white will push henne to become better. White will be able to do everything on offense plus the fact that if henne does turn out to be a bust we have another good QB to put in
by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 26, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You could not be more Correct
Competition is the name of the game and White will compete as some level for QB time, but I agree that he has such a tremendous upside to him. He is a great fit for the Phins. I also love Pat Turner and the CB picks.
by illuminatti1 on Apr 26, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
you were bitching about it and you don't even know who he is??
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
dude put a sock in it lol
its NOT THE EFF WHO WE PICKED TO ME…IS WHP WE COULDA HAD.
and i get a curse threat box when everyone else curses…just cuz i dont agre some places i cant curse apparently…yet the ckc is a curse explosion…
am i smarter than the trifecta? no…soryy just a lil dissapointed. hope they are right…i love pat white..just at 44 omg we coulda had nasty BIG PEOPLE..if he last to 56 then maybe
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But you cant cry about....
What we could have had, we drafted who we drafted. You really think the trifecta or anyone who drafts thinks about who they could have had?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's how I see the Pat White pick..
he was the best WR available at 44, and I don’t think there’s anyway Dallas lets him pass by at 51 (they traded out) so that was the only place to get him
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
And like someone said earlier, does it really matter who got picked where? Its not like Brace will hold it over butler being picked first lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think they see him as a WR, they must see him as a viable alternative at QB
and a weapon for the Wildcat. If they had in mind just a WR we would have probably gotten him with the 25th
We might have gotten a WR at 25
if Vontae Davis wasn’t there.
I don’t think they see him as JUST a WR, but he’ll be a WR, return man, Wildcat option, gimmicky player.. they’ll use him all over the place, but he’ll be primarily a WR IMO
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
that's how I see it too
agreed. And, if you can believe it, he’s actually MORE versatile than Harvin, if not as explosive
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
like i said before though
Ireland talked about best player available…which he was and the idea of using him on offense probably had them salivating
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oh well....i guess im gonna have to watch him and tedd ginn flas all over the field now lol
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k....well at least thats cool...i like lil tough wr wr's
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Ya know He even kinda looks like Wes Welker LOL
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell be a great scrappy receiver who wont be afraid to mix it up cuz he's a white boy
I watch Ohio State often because my mom’s a buckeye and so i like them…anyways Ive watched him play and have liked what Ive seen
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Phins have done right by there needs
The Phins have done a great job at suring-up their defense, and by adding some serious offensive weapons. The question becomes will these picks (first four at least) have an immediate impact (positive) for the Dolphins.
they better work hard or they are gone
if davis doesnt show up and play his hardest you will see smith or green start. All the FO cares about is the work ethic. We dropped and added players all the time no one is safe just remember that
by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 26, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I am tired of hearing about the NFC EAST what about the AFC east were just as big of beasts as them no?
by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 26, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
We should be
But the focus has been on them for so long because of Drama and the collection of “known” talents in the division
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that and three super bowl contenders year in and year out
the focus will come back to the AFCE once we put another good season or two behind us, and the media will love the Jets because Sanchez is oh-so-cute and charismatic
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
"oh-so-cute" and charismatic
lol
until he starts flaunting his heritage like he did at USC lol
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Enhalen said it best
right on the money, whether we like it or not drama in the NFL sells
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Just
getting started over here in Japan, but had to log on and see how the draft was going. Damn strange if you asked me, but maybe our special teams will be kick-ass. Never would have thought 3 WRs and 1 TE. How many UDFA starters are we going to pick up?
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I don't think we'll get any starters in UDFA..
we don’t all garbage on the roster like before last season lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
What up peoples...
Weird draft. Seems like Randy Mueller is somehow back in town. Love the doubling up though. They really decided they had to address secondary and wr. Hopefully they did.
Two things.
1. Methinks JT will be a Dolphins again.
2. Rashad Jennings would look great in orange and teal. I’m surprised he’s still available.
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Yeah i would love Jennings
But im still rooting for Michael Bennet….I want an aggie on this team dammit
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This thread is making my head spin sometimes lol
damn trying to figure out where that post came up on here lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
your a kicker
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got to protect stafford any way u can right?
by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 26, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
yeah I mean, Pettigrew is a good blocker.. but at some point you want him to go out for a pass I think..
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
nope not a kicker lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
They still need a Punter too, Missed out with No. 1 overall. Big dissapointment to me
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has Ian Johnson been drafted yet?
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that is so f'n crazy.........
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This is our last pick coming up right?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions
we have 2 7th roundres?
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We have pick #237 from what I see
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
7th Round and Beyond
For your enjoyment (ok, for my enjoyment), the top 5 players drafted by the Dolphins in round 7 or later.
1. Mark Clayton
2. Jake Scott
3. Larry Seiple
4. Jeff Cross
5. Glenn Blackwood
Seems like historically we have better luck at the end than anywhere else on the second day.
doesnt suck guys like tate, brace and butler
guys we all pretty much wanted went to the pats. God life sucks man
by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 26, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
maybe we can
pick them off the waivers after the 1st or 2nd cut.
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why does it suck?
We got 2 CB’s that we wanted in the 1st……a crazy ass QB/WR, two big ass WR’s
I’m not disappointed at all
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Best name in the draft...
goes to Captain Munnerlyn, CB from South Carolina drafted by the Panthers in the 7th.
there's your cover guy on the inside then
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
is he good in coverage
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no idea
but he played the SS/Rover position in college, so he was at least counted on to cover people
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and he is playing ILB for us?
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sweet, whats his size?
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6'3 230 according to the Weber St. website
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
not bad at all if he is decent in coverage........
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that's what I'm thinking
pretty solid special teamer I’m hoping too
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like we wont be viewed as a team that had a top draft this year
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who
cares what those scumbags think :-). It all depends on what the coaching staff is able to get out of these guys
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I'm hoping Folsom is the next ZT
never know, its all heart and desire. Okay a little talent wouldnt hurt..
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I dont care what people say
but it just wont be like last year hahaha
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Follett just went to DET
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
We better take Nick Reed with our last pick......
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I'd rather have Ian Johnson
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Who trades 7th round picks lmao?
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maybe for a 1st rounder next year?!?!!?
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It would hold to the trends today lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I would beleive it if we traded with Al Davis
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well we traded with Pioli
we may have got something solid here lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, I wish it would tell us what for though
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We traded the pick to the Chiefs
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 26, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions
We can't possibly get their 7th
The Chiefs pick last at 256. That’s a comp pick. We must have gotten something for next year – a 6 or a seventh pick?
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one of my fav guys to watchin in the NCAA
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Follett was a stud
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DET had an amazing draft.........
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yeah, but I think we are pretty solid on the outside........
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oh damn..
so we’re done? lol wtf did we get?
I’m banking on a 4th next year lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
so
anyone know what we got for the pick?
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a 1st rounder from Al Davis next season
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i wish
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We probably got something for next year...........w
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probably for a 7th next year since it will likely be ALOT higher than the one we had this year
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basically
Pioli is Parcells son-in-law (if i recall) so he gave KC a pick and Pioli said he’ll get us back next year.
lol wtf
so generous of Parcells..
Watch, next year he’ll send Sparano with John Nalbone in tow to “collect” on the favor.. and we’ll get another 2nd rounder lol
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless of how the draft turns out
and we won’t know for 2 or 3 years, it has been fun discussing everything and debating all the picks. It is nice to see so many passionate phins fans. Here is to many more fun debate days like the last two.
lol I saw him
he’s from Miami too… how the hell did he get out of the state?>
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
that guy was like! overall potentail 2 years ago wtf....i would taken him with our last pick why not
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YES NICK REED GOT DRAFTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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madden 10 with new draft picks
just hopped on the phinsider jus droppin by to ask who is excited to play with the dolphins in madden ’10?? what do you guys think davis and white will be rated as rookies?
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