Nicks, Britt, Harvin and Robiskie.
by Phinsguy99 on Apr 22, 2009 9:10 AM EDT
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Ok so the draft is less 4 days away and there's been lots of chatter about taking a wideout in the second round. First of all we have two picks in the second round. So after taking a nice CB like Darius Butler in the first, we can move on to our wideout needs.
Nicks
So this one is a popular one. It is very likely he could fall to us in the second. However I don't see this guy in a Phins uniform. He also doesn't seem like one of those Tuna picks either. However the possibilities of drafting Nicks is likely.
Britt
This is one there's been a lot of blab about. This is one I would con cider taking. He's tall and he has good hands. Overall he'd be a nice Phin in my eyes. The problem is there is possibilities that Britt gets drafted before that number 12 (second round) pick. He's a possibility but the odds are more slim.
Harvin
I'm not gonna say much but I will say this, Percy Harvin will probably be gone by the second round. I only bring him up because is stock is falling due to the incident with drugs.
Robiskie
Here's who I wanna get to. Ok, why should you draft Robiskie? He's fast (top five in 40 yard dash) got good hands (didn't drop a single ball) and is just pure awesome. Robskie could make it to the third round though. So if he's not drafted there there's still hope.
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Why not
take two CBs on day 1? A. Smith and D.J. Moore with our 2 seconds after getting Bill’s LB?
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by Blaze453 on Apr 22, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nicks, not Knicks
Imo, Robiskie and Britt are overrated.
Britt is a one year wonder, as opposed to Nicks, who’s improved every year.
Harvin is great, but we have Tedd Ginn to do what he does, plus he’s always injured.
If I’m correct, robiskie will be there by the time our 3rd rd pick comes around… so he shouldn’t even be in the discussion of our 1st rd or 2nd rd picks.
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by Phinaddict on Apr 22, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You got to be kidding me here.
I’ve tried to be objective (cus yes, I am a Britt homer), but calling Britt a one year wonder but saying Nicks improved every year is just 100% dead wrong.
Nicks:
2006: 39-660-4
2007: 74-958-3
2008: 68-1222-12
Britt:
2006: 29-440-2
2007: 82-1232-8
2008: 87-1371-7
So who is the one year wonder??
by Matty I on Apr 22, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confused Britt and Robiskie
Although Nicks, my friend, is not a one year wonder either… he did improve every year… his TD’s are down in 07 from 06 but look at his receptions, and yards, he became THE target for defenses.
You are right, Britt is not a one year wonder… I confused him with Robiskie…
In any case, I’m too smooth to be embarrassed!
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by Phinaddict on Apr 22, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
If we hard pressed to get a big receiver then I say go for Robiskie, only of we can get him in the 3rd. but to be honest I think we need to give our receiving corps one more year. If there is no steady improvement than maybe we can ponder on drafting a WR. But to be honest I think now that they have had a taste of what the NFL has to offer, I think they will play wth more tenacity and have more to prove. Especially considering the teams they will be matched up against. This set of receivers did what was asked of them most of the time. Camarillo will be back and London is a big target already. Ginnis the speedster and Bess gets the medium passes. And hopefully we can get Wilford to perform or at least play.
by esco6781 on Apr 22, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Britt are overrated.
Britt is a one year wonder
dead wrong
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by finsxfactor on Apr 22, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont worry
I already put an end to that one-year wonder talk.
and he admitted he was thinking of Robiskie – not Britt – in terns of being one-year wonder.
by Matty I on Apr 22, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol im proud of you matty =)
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by finsxfactor on Apr 22, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes yes
I can admit when I’m wrong…I’m man enough
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by Phinaddict on Apr 23, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry,
Fixed.
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by Phinsguy99 on Apr 23, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as we don't take a WR with our 1st.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 22, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be surprised...
if we addressed the WR issue in the first two rounds. There are a boat load of recievers in the draft. All these guys are good, but with the rumors floating around I’d say we either pick a WR in the 4-7th round or we end up getting Hixon from the Giants. Once again this FO is building from within. O-Line, D-Line, Linebackers, then the primadonas. Remember, 4-5 recievers have been in Miami for less than 2 years, I understand getting a playmaker, but I think our eyes are more on a “Pat White” type of player than on any specific receiver. The only way IMO we take a WR in the first 3 rounds, is if one of them falls to the third round.
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by Heater OsE on Apr 22, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I might sound crazy, but now that the draft is 3 days away, this is what I would do
1. Darius Butler, CB
2a. Clint Sintim, OLB
2b. Duke Robinson, OG (Many mocks have him falling to pittsburgh in the 2nd or even into the 3rd! not a big need for Gs this season)
3. Ramses Barden, WR (HUGE TARGET!!!!)
by psldolfan on Apr 22, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duke Robinson would probably be a reach with our 2nd b, however,
it is interesting that you mention the possibility of drafting him in either round. I think nobody had mention it before in these endless pre draft talks. The guy is a monster, and eventhough a guy with his size and college career should be ranked much higher, there are concerns about his ability to make it in the NFL. In my opinion he is the Tim Tebow of college Offensive Linemen. Meaning he had a great career in college but scouts insist he cant get done the little things (footwork etc…) to make it in the NFL. He intrigues me though, if these little things dont concern Parcells I would be all for it. We would have probably the youngest and absolutely wildest o line in pro football with one of the best running backs. Intriguing
by MauMontaV5 on Apr 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ramses maybe available in the 4th
by esco6781 on Apr 22, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be gone by then
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by Patssuck456 on Apr 23, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Phinsguy long time no see
Yeah I pretty much agree with everyting, especially what you said about Harvin, he is going to go much sooner than everyone expects, he is just too good.
PS- “i would con cider taking” haha priceless
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by MauMontaV5 on Apr 22, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I say robiskie with 2b
Ted Ginn is the man.
by topspin on Apr 22, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ROBISKIE
with our 2nd, if we go corner number one. If we go receiver number one, i would take Nicks, or Britt. I’d be happy with any of these receivers.
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by FinzD54 on Apr 22, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Robiskie
Robiskie will be selected in the 2nd round because he has the pedigree and the talent. That is why both he and Clay Matthews have moved up teams draft boards. Neither one of these guys has off the charts stats like other players in their college careers, but they come from NFL backgrounds. The history of the draft has shown that there are more busts than booms. Parcells likes guys who are smart, hungry, and talented. Nicks worked out last week and according to Charley Casserly yesterday on NFL Network, after running 10 routes he was gassed. No way Parcells is drafting a guy who is out of shape. Britt dropped a lot of balls and there is no question that he had production. However, when you get to the pros and he gets clocked by safeties and linebackers is he going to get alligator hands. Robiskie understands how to get off the line of scrimmage because he was taught by his father. Robiskie will be the perfect complement to Ginn and company.
by sundevil11 on Apr 22, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we could get Louis Murphy from UF for a much lower draft pick, maybe 4th round. I think the 1st 3 rounds should be focused on getting some defensive players. OLB, NT, CB are some pressing issues.
by esco6781 on Apr 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The New York Knicks?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Apr 22, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahah the man is 10 years old man give him a break.
If you want to tease someone go for Matty for saying Harvin and Nicks tested positive.
by MauMontaV5 on Apr 22, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Not a bad write up for a 10 year old. Nicks tested positive for mcdonalds. That is why he gained 20 pounds
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by Mr MaLoR on Apr 22, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by finsxfactor on Apr 22, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nicks and Britt will not be there by the 44th pick unless GOD himself makes a miricle happen
even if they make it to the second round you still have to consider the teams that pick before us who passed on a wideout in the first Detroit, the Rams, The Jags,etc may look to grab one with their second round choice
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by Foy on Apr 22, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You said it
Nicky had been insisting (being annoying lol) that receivers were falling and that they basically werent going to go as high as everyone thinks. Basically what many people around here think is that those guys are a lock to be there at 44, but since reading Mattys pressure points comments last night, like you say, there is no way in hell they last till 44. Maybe out of the 1st yes, but from 33 to 43 there is a high risk in every single pick.
by MauMontaV5 on Apr 22, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are all the nfl draft analysts stupid? b/c
everyone of them has at least 3-4 WRs going in the first round yet Nicky says WITHOUT A DOUBT WRs are falling and only maclin and crabtree will go in the first. I am telling you now that AT LEAST 4 WRs go in the first. Crabtree and Maclin both go in the top 15 picks and from 20 on i see nicks, bey, and britt all going in the first round Especially if baltimore and giants dont trade for either boldin and/or edwards. Look at the teams behind us for god sake. Ravens want a weapon for flacco. indy lost marvin. giants dont have burress. and titans could take one just because they dont have a great passing game. Philly might use their pick at 22 to grab a wideout if they want McNabb to sign that extension(which he wont unless the given him more offense)
The talent at Wideout > Cornerback.
Last year WRs were picked to go in the first based off of needs but maybe not all of them had the TALENT to go in the first. this year there still is that need but now the talent level is much higher allowing teams who still have that need at WR to take one in the first round
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by jazztrumpeter89 on Apr 22, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
slow down there skippy
Nicky says WITHOUT A DOUBT WRs are falling and only maclin and crabtree will go in the first. I am telling you now that AT LEAST 4 WRs go in the first.
Never have I used the phrase “without a doubt.” I’ve said that it’s likely, I’ve argued my point, and I’m basing that off the draft trends of the past couple years.
And I don’t know how you can say last year’s WR’s didn’t have 1st round talent. Maybe you forgot, but DeSean Jackson was a legit candidate for a top 5 pick halfway through the college season before people came to their senses, and he ended up at 49. Devin Thomas is a 6’2, 215lb stud who can run like a deer, and he was projected as high as 12th last year. He fell to the second. Now, if he wasn’t a first rounder at all, why would Jeremy Maclin suddenly be top 15? And I’ll say this, Crabtree might be the best WR in this draft, but he’s no Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson, and I don’t think he should be a top 5 pick. Let’s not be short-sighted with this year’s WR’s and forget about how highly touted some of last year’s WR’s were.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 22, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most NFL Draft Analysts are stupid..
but most GM’s aren’t. WR’s typically drop in the draft because of the unpredictability of their success at the NFL level. Besides QB’s, WR’s are the next most likely position to fail. So GM’s ask why take the risk and spend big money on a 1st round WR when I can get a quality player at the same position in the 2nd or 3rd round or even later. Look at what is being said about receivers other than Crabtree and Maclin: (From Peter King’s MMQB)
Kenny Britt is flaky. Darrius Heyward-Bey’s hands and route-running are suspect. Hakeem Nicks was overweight and not in great shape when the Ravens worked him out Friday. In other words, the receivers are a suspect group, and a few of them we thought would be picked in the first round are going in the second.
These things are being said to Peter King, who is about as connected in the NFL an anyone, because GM’s are trying to lessen their draft value, hoping the drop out of the first round. If that happens, these guys become a 2nd or 3rd mistake instead of a 1st. It makes them look better.
I am with Nicky on this, 2 wr’s in the first round will be drafted. Maybe a 3rd after pick 25 by a team that picks in the late 2nd round.
by ct1361 on Apr 22, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree with Nicky I think Britt,Nicks and maybe even Bey will slide into the second round
but Ill say it again Detroit needs someone opposite of Calvin so will they take one at 33,the Rams need to find Holts replacement,Jags,Oak and Cleveland are still in the mix as well if they dont take a wideout in the first
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by Foy on Apr 22, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Detroit takes a WR at 33
they fxxked up. They have a million other needs on that team, and they already have one of the best WR’s in the league. When you just went 0-16, you don’t take a complementary WR in the top 40. You take someone you think can be a stud playmaker. If they’re smart, they’ll take the best defensive player on the board and roll with it.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Lions first 3 picks will go...
…Stafford/Oher (or Britton, if Oher is gone)/Laurinaitis. And that will be a monster way to begin to recover from 0-16.
by Matty I on Apr 23, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what ever happend to beau bell?
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by finsxfactor on Apr 23, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right and I dont think they will if a good corner or and inside or outside lb falls to their laps
I just said it is a posibility we are talking about the Lions you know lol
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by Foy on Apr 23, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still about 99.9% sure that we will not draft a WR in the first 3 rounds...
Our defense still needs a face lift w/ the CB, LB and DT positions, our OL is not fully set, and if for some reason we want to take a shot at Pat White, we’ll need a pick open for that one in the 3rd or 4th round. I just don’t see picking up a WR in the 2nd round or 3rd round when we’ve proven that we can upgrade at WR by picking up Undrafted Free Agents.
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by Heater OsE on Apr 22, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah with this tough schedual you can bet with are going to go D
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by Foy on Apr 22, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not so sure and I'll tel you why
1- Next year getting a WR we could get this year at 44 would probably take a first rounder. So you are getting really high value for your pick and money.
2- We really need a #1 receiver, and if we plan on starting Henne on 2010, then that receiver might as well have a year of experience under his belt.
I think Parcells wont miss these two hints
by MauMontaV5 on Apr 22, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True I think we will grab our wr in day one but after that or before you can bet we will go after a cb,olb,DT/NT,maybe even another corner or safty then some depth for o-line etc
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by Foy on Apr 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly, i wouldnt count out 2 second day NT
by MauMontaV5 on Apr 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's alot of value for NT's on day 2
Chris Baker, Sammie Lee Hill, Terrence Taylor, Terrance Knighton.. all those guys should be there after round 3. I’d be happy with any of them
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 23, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor in the 4th I'll be happy
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by Foy on Apr 23, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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