NFL Draft Pressure Points: Cornerback
One of the things I like to do when I'm examining a draft - especially when there are 2 or 3 players in particular I'm hoping falls to the Dolphins - is to examine how likely it is one of those players fall to the Miami. This year, having the 25th pick, it's harder than ever to really gauge which players might potentially be available when the Dolphins are on the clock.
But what we can do is try our best to break down where the "pressure points" are in round one. So what's a "pressure point"? The way I define a "pressure point" is as a point in time during the draft where there's a strong liklihood that the team on the clock could potentially draft one of the players you hope to fall.
In this edition particular post, we're going to look at the pressure points for the cornerback position. Why? Well, yes, the cornerback spot is probably the greatest hole on Miami's roster. And yes, I'm personally hoping that the Dolphins draft one of three corners in round one (Vontae Davis, Darius Butler, Sean Smith). But more importantly, you Dolphin fans who have voted in our Pulse of Dolphins Nation poll about the 25ht overall pick (and you can still cast your vote) have voted in favor of drafting a cornerback more so than any other position - with 39% of the votes going to a corner. So with that in mind, it just made sense to do our first "pressure point" post about the cornerback position.
To begin, we must first identify the true first round caliber cornerbacks in this draft. And based on what we read and hear (and from examining countless mock drafts), there are three legitimate first round corners out there - Malcolm Jenkins, Vontae Davis, and Darius Butler. I think that Sean Smith is as well - and some mock drafts agree with me - but we'll leave him out of the discussion for right now.
Now let's look at the first round.
Picks 1 through 8 - Some may argue that the Browns could consider drafting Malcolm Jenkins, but I don't see it. I don't think any of the top corners even deserve to be a top 5 pick. And the Browns have many other needs. No pressure points here.
Pressure Point #1: Pick 9 - When the Packers hit the clock at pick 9, this will be our first pressure point. Their two corners are getting up there in age and an infusion of a young corner would make some sense. But I think that their conversion to a 3-4 defensive scheme will dictate this pick and the Packers will address their front seven rather than their secondary. Though this is a pressure point, it's not a pick I'd be overly concerned about if you're pulling for the Dolphins to select a corner.
Picks 10 and 11 - Nothing to worry about here. Sure, the Bills lost Jabari Greer to free agency. But they need a pass rusher and some offensive line help much more than they need another corner. And they spend last year's first rounder on a corner. They won't spend another on one.
Pressure Point #2: Pick 12 - Part of me will be hoping that the Broncos trade up in the draft to snag Mark Sanchez because there's a chance they could decide to address their secondary and select Malcolm Jenkins. They lost Dre Bly this offseason and, though they signed Andre Goodman, Brian Dawkins, and Renaldo Hill, Jenkins could be of value to them because he could play corner or safety. However, with their switch to a 3-4 defense, it would make more sense for them to take a front seven player. Keep an eye on what Denver does on draft day, but don't sweat it out too much.
Pressure Point #3: Pick 14 - Up to this point, I think that this pick, 14th overall by the Saints, will be a heavy indicator of whether or not a top corner falls to the Dolphins at 25. The Saints certainly need secondary help. Their best corner, Mike McKenzie, remains unsigned. They signed Jabari Greer, but he isn't exactly a sure thing. They drafted Tracy Porter last year. They also have Randall Gay, Jason David, and Michael Lehan. Right now, it seems like they are trying the whole "quantity over quality" idea to fix their secondary. So that's why this pick will be interesting. The Saints obnly have 1 pick in the first 3 rounds of this draft, too, and a lot of holes to try and mend on defense. So they could decide to address another need, perhaps linebacker. But having the ability to play both corner and safety is something that could entice the Saints. If you're pulling for a corner at pick 25, then this pick is going to be of high interest to you.
Pressure Point #4: Pick 15 - The Texans' 15th overall pick, coupled with New Orleans' 14th, probably represent the ultimate pressure point in round one of the draft for the cornerback position. The Texans could certainly use help in their secondary. And yet again, Jenkins' position flexibility will improve his value in the eyes of yet another team. I personally feel that Houston's needs for an outisde linebacker are greater than their need for secondary help. But depending on how the first 14 picks play out, it could make sense for Houston to select either Jenkins or Vontae Davis.
Picks 16 and 17 - Chargers and Jets pick here. It's highly doubtful that secondary help is on either's list for round one.
Pressure Point #5: Pick 18 - The Broncos are up again with the pick they obtained from the Bears for QB Jay Cutler. Same thing applies here that I wrote previously when they were on the clock at #12.
Pressure Point #6: Pick 20 - I wouldn't say it's likely that the Lions select a cornerback here, especially with another pick upcoming to kick off round two. But there's clearly a need at corner - especially after cutting Leigh Bodden. It wouldn't be surprising to see Vontae Davis or Darius Butler come off the board here. It certainly bears monitoring, at the very least.
Pressure Point #7: Pick 22 - The Vikings could certainly use a cornerback. They have Antoine Winfield, but not too much after him. Cedric Griffin is alright, but an upgrade would probably be worth considering. Granted, corner isn't a hige need for Minnesota. But this is a team that doesn't have too many glaring holes and upgrading their secondary would make some sense.
Pressure Point #8: Pick 23 - Clearly, the Patriots have needs in their secondary. But they did sign Shawn Springs and Leigh Bodden to compliment Ellis Hobbs. But the Patriots are another team without any glaring holes, so they could easily decide to take the highest rated player on their board. And there are reports that suggest that NE is high on Darius Butler.
Pressure Point #9: Pick 24 - The Falcons are a lot like the Dolphins. Despite going 11-5 and making the playoffs, they are a team with a few different needs. They need help along the defensive line. They could use linebacker help - especially after losing two starters from last year. They could also use a tight end. And you can never have too much depth along the offensive line. But their secondary is also in question. Outside of Chris Houston, they don't really have a starting-caliber corner on their roster. And just think how much it would hurt for the Falcons to snatch up Vontae Davis or Darius Butler with the pick right in front of the Dolphins. Ugh!
Final Thought
Nine "pressure points" are a lot, that's for sure. From my point of view, I think that the first 14 picks will go a long way towards a top three cornerback dropping to Miami's laps. If no corners go in the top 14, I think there would be a very good chance one falls to 25. If only one goes, I'd say there's still about a 50/50 chance one falls to 25. The thing with this particular draft, though, because of the lack of separation between the top players at each position, this is as unpredictable and as fluid a draft as I can recall. And while that will make draft day even more fun, it makes it very, very tough to try and predict.
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have had a feeling for a while
the fins are going to be moving up in round 1 for a certain USC middle LB….
but otherwise, i’m really trying to stay detatched from any players in this years draft … just don’t want to develop a crush on someone who ends up a patsie or a jet….
all that said – my impression is the CB’s in this draft arent really true first round talents but are more of the best of the bunch – but that there were a good number in the 3-5th round that could blossom into real talent with some good development.
and these guys have always built inside out and they worked on the lines last year… so i’m sticking with LB for my first round pick and as a result – hope GB, the Jets, and the pats waste picks on below grade CB’s.
Agreed with everything that you wrote above
I see CB as a 2nd day pick for this team, maybe at #56. I really think that on the 1st day the phins will draft 2 LB’s. I can see a scenario where that 3rd pick on day one, #56, could go a number of different directions. From NT (even though I think that it is too high to draft that position) to WR to CB to OL.
I don't think we'll move up.
Every Parcells’ draft pick is too valuable to give up. I think our first 3 picks will be a linebacker, a NT, and an offensive lineman (not necessarily in that order). I know we have depth on the O-Line now, but it’s veteran depth. We need young competent depth for when Henne takes over, and I believe Parcell’s has the [correct] mentality that giving a good QB time is better than giving him more weapons.
carey's pretty good and hes pretty young
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by finsxfactor on Apr 15, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Carey has 5 good years left
"How can I blame you
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I just dont think that we need a corner with the 1st pick..
There’s going to be some good corner’s that will fall to the 2nd round who are not necessarily a drop off from Butler, Smith, or Davis. For example, I like Sherod Martin with the 44th pick it seems like he’s pretty good, too.
At 25 I just want the top player on the board. At reciever, we wont be able to find a guy like Britt or Pettigrew later in the draft, so maybe they will be taken there. Either way the team’s depth needs to be fortified. Maybe, the thing to do is trade back to the end on the 1st or to the 2nd round.
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Yeah,
I think trading down is a distinct possibility, especially if Harvin falls. There are some teams picking after us that will be salivating.
salivating lol good choice
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Excuse me but CB is our biggest need, why would we focus on drafting one later than sooner? TE is so low on our NEED list pettigrew wont be picked up by us. I agree that if any of the top three are gone we go with LB or WR Best player avail. but imo if we dont take a CB in day one our draft went horribly wrong. (unless we trade up and get BJ or something of that nature
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Because you don’t want to reach with your 1st round pick just to fill a need. When you have the chance to draft a star caliber player in the 1st round you do that, especially when we have 2 2nd ound picks. Some of the guys that may fall to us in the 2nd round at CB like Alphonso Smith and Martin are not a big drop off from the other guys.
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Exactly.
The CB class just isn’t impressive this year. There’s no point in drafting a 1st rounder if you can get the same caliber player in the 3rd round.
I 100% disagree here
Vontae Davis and Darius Butler are going to be very good (borderline great) corners. And Sean Smith, though he’s more raw than the other two, I strongly feel like he has a ridiculously high ceiling and has true star potential.
So I don’t see how we can get the same caliber player in round 3.
I see what you’e saying Matty, but its hard to project these guys. Vontae Davis has all the tools and he could be very good but, there is also the possibility that he’s another Pacman Jones. There are some good CB’s in round 2 that are close to the 1st round guys. I mentioned Martin because he has the size, speed, and maturity that the trifecta is looking for, for example.
At the end of the draft we’ll have at least a couple pretty good prospects at CB and we’ll be much better. I just don’t see the need to reach in the 1st round, but if we take one that’s fine too. I’d just rather get a pro-bowl caliber guy in the 1st round as oppossed to “filling a hole.”
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Which is why
you kill two birds with one stone and take Davis/Butler. Vontae Davis was a top 15 pick until recently when his stock seemed to take a slight hit, and Darius Butler’s has soared quickly. Both have the tools to be Pro Bowlers, and neither player should be much worse than borderline-Pro Bowler. It’s entirely possible that the LBs we would like to take at 25 (English, Jackson, Ayers, all the top 10-15 hybrids) could all be gone. I understand the linebacker method and have been stating all off-season that I believe we take a LB at 25, but if Davis is there you cannot pass on him for much of anyone. Parcells knows how to scout his backers well, and I can assure you he has a handful of guys that are “his guys” that he can land in rounds 2-3 like he did with Merling and Langford on the D-Line last season.
by Dave.Phuller on Apr 15, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I want them to take the guy that is the best player on their board, regardless of position.
SO, they may take a CB but what if they have Davis and Butler highly rated and they’re off of the board? They know much more than I do, but I think that guys like Britt and Pettigrew who may be there at 25 are better prospects relative to their position than either Davis or Butler. We’ll see what shakes out, your opinion might be different.
My point is don’t be surprised when we don’t take a CB or a LB at 25.
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i like your logic
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Thank you, sir.
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you are very welcome. lol
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Going BPA is a strong possibility
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
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Oh I won't be, at all
Of course it’s all BPA as long as it addresses some sort of need with that #25 pick. I just think Vontae will slip and unless an English is there, I think Vontae will be BPA.
by Dave.Phuller on Apr 16, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The CB Position
Matty I do agree with you about our need for a young CB, but why in the 1st Round?? Generate the Pass Rush and the “Pressure” is off of the CBs!! This is another one of those what came first deals – the Pass Rush or the Cover Corner??
I even think you addressed this earlier this year when making the case for a CB in the 1st Round. I don’t see a Deon Sanders out there do you?? I see our CB sitting there for us @ selection #44 or even @ selection #56. After all didn’t we pick up Chad Henne @ selection 2b??
So what are you so worried about with all these pressure points?? Do you really think that we are not getting hit with Media Spin?? How can anyone out there really believe that the 3 best LBs in this draft come from one school, USC; and that all of them will go in the 1st Round??
Patience Dude!! In Bill, Tony & Jeff I trust, and I am looking for the biggest IMPACT defensive player left @ #25!! Hopefully it is Larry English – the Black Butkus!!!
Lets Kick Butt Dolphins!!
Good comment, you are entitled t your opinion
and in this case it is not a bad one but drop the “in Bill,Tony and Jeff I trust” bull crap. Dont encourage a ridiculous fanatism. Dont forget Parcells is going to be a no show next year and thats that. Support your opinion with facts like you did and leave it at that.
I like how you tell him to just use facts
and then come out with “Dont forget Parcells is going to be a no show next year and thats that.” You must have some amazing sources to already say that’s a fact.
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The obvious caveat with this entire post
is that we have no idea what the front office is actually looking at in terms of their #1 priority. Parcells has been around in the league long enough to have acquired quite a draft track record. If you examine that record, then it is obvious he has picked from a slew of positions in the first round – QB, OL, DL, CB (Ty Law), even TE with the infamous Kyle Brady selection during his jets tenure.
Combine this with the inevitable draft surprise/trade/bombshell, and I’d say our projections are well, not much more than ways to spend time between here and the actual draft day :)
Excellent post Matty
Agree about all the “pressure points”, and difficulty gauging the draft. One thing I think is huge in our favor is all the buzz about O/D linemen, LBs, WRs and even a couple RBs, there are allot of 1st rounders projected in this draft, more than most years even, lol, which is why its a difficult draft to gauge, throw in 2 possibly 3 QBs taken ahead of us and we just might have a choice between Butler or Davis. But I will feel the “pressure” at every “point” in the first round. :>)
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I like the post..
the only place I’m worried about is New England. I think Vontae Davis could go as high as 8th, but it wouldn’t change anything behind him. Malcolm Jenkins is almost a lock to go to New Orleans, because they need help at safety and corner, specifically safety, and he can play both, but will most likely be a safety. Perfect fit for their biggest need really.
Outside of that, the only team I’m REALLY worried about taking a CB like Butler or Smith is New England, and I think that still leaves us with one of them. I’m happy with either of them, and I’d take Butler no questions asked if he’s there. And if Davis drops a little, then we may have our choice of the 3.
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 15, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions
you come up with these super catchy names lol. i like this pressure point thing. im gonna add it to my draft board lol. wr next lol?
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Clarification.
A lot of you are being vocal about why the Dolphins shouldn’t draft a corner. But there’s a reason I chose to look at CB first here when doing this post. And that’s because the majority of the 1,700 people who voted in our poll voted for a cornerback.
So while the vocal majority seems to want anything but a corner, the silent majority is hoping we take Davis, Butler, or Smith. Hence my decision to look at the CB spot with this post.
I want a Wr =)
and deep down you want the one i want .
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I voted CB,
but I have since changed my mind. As his track record implies, Parcells does not like to roll the dice on a skill position in early rounds.
I guess I should clarify--
I changed my mind because I believe that Parcells/Ireland/Sparano want Henne to have the best possible O-line which will help his performance, and thus his confidence, when he takes over. When transitioning to the speed of the NFL, he’ll need as much time in the pocket as he can possibly get. A pro-bowl caliber CB is not going to do that, where as multiple pro-bowl candidates on the o-line will. I think we go for a day 1 Right Tackle. Our other selections will likely be a NT and probably a SSLB, or possibly a MLB.
Don’t get me wrong, we are drafting multiple CBs, but they will be in the later rounds. We’ll probably trade down our 25th pick if all of the 1st round OLB prospects are off the board by the time we are on the clock.
Cornerback later.
No way fins draft Vontae Diva, especially in rd.1. Sean Smith is not a first rd. pick. Smith should go in rd.2, maybe even as low as 56. While I originally thought Butler should be the pick at 25, that was before the signing of Eric Green. I now believe a corner will be picked later to compete with the others opposite Will Allen. If Pettigrew is on the board I see him as the pick with a 50% chance he is then traded.
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what do you guys think is a realistic place for sean smith to fall?
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lol nvm you just answered haha
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aww darn.
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by finsxfactor on Apr 15, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be one hell of a start though lol
1. britt or nicks (for you jazzy)
2a. sean smith
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by finsxfactor on Apr 15, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Cornerback
I for one am one of the proponents of drafting a corner in the first round. There are many reasons to my logic.
1) In our division alone, we face 2 teams who’s wideouts normally burn us the entire game, whether we pressure the passer or not. Screens, Options, Outs, Slants, you name it. If you disagree, let me just throw some old names like Wes Welker, Randy Moss and Lee Evans at you, and some new ones like Terrel Owens, and Joey Galloway.
2) I’ve done a whole lotta reading on Darius Butler, on Vontae Davis, and on Seam Smith. Vontae Davis is a physical monster. His negatives are coachable. He’s physically gifted enough to translate his game to the NFL. Butler is a little less prominent physically, but he’s a whole lot smarter and will also be a dominant corner in the NFL.
I’m not saying these picks are sure bets, what I am saying is that they’re as equal a risk to boom or bust as is anyone else that will be available at or around or picks. And Corner is THE most glaring need for this football team as of now.
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Your logic is flawed.
A CB is like a WR, they take time to adapt to the speed of the NFL, so basically most CB/WR are projects by default. A college CB is not going to step in and hang with Randy Moss. You have to draft with the future in mind, not the present, which is why I see a NT and a Right Tackle definitely being drafted on Day 1. The other pick could be SSLB, MLB, another OL position, or even another QB for 2011 in case Henne fails in 2010.
OT
will not be drafted prior to the 3rd round. You forget Parcells takes pride in getting mid/late round big men and Carey though signed to a 5 yr contract the first three basically guarentees he is the man there UNLESS as I have suggested IF one of the top 4 OT drop to us AND FO wishes to move Carey inside forget it. I do think a OT will be drafted but round 5 or later
25th pick - Clay Mathews LB USC
44th pick - Alphonso Smith cb Wake Forest
56th pick - Clint Sintim LB Virginia
86th pick - Fili Moala DT USC
Carey is definitely the man there for this year.
There is no arguing that, but there will need to be some young talent/depth at that position for when Henne takes over.
And to say that Parcells likes his tackles in the late rounds, well have you already forgotten the #1 pick over all last year?
How long
cuz I can name a few corners who were excellent in their first year… Of the recent drafts that come to mind, how bout Marcus Trufant? Terrence Newman?? Antonio Cromartie?? Rodgers-Cromartie?? I mean, there are several…I’m not saying they’ll come in and be assigned to man cover moss, but they can have a safety shadow them and perform well until they get everything down. If you don’t see corner as a priority then you either overestimate our corners after Allen or you haven’t looked at the depth chart.
and if you really believe we need a RT and think thats a priority in the draft… well you’re in for disappointment, because Carey is in for 5 years, and he’s a quality RT, I dare to say one of the better ones.
The NT position is scarce in this draft, as in most, and will be addressed, just not so early as there are quality players that can be had beyond the 3rd rd, like Baker, Lee-Hill, or Taylor. And the OLB position will be addressed early imo.
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that."- Bill Shankly
Not once did I say CB was not a priority.
I have stated that we will draft multiple CBs in this draft, just not on Day 1.
Cornerback
I agree with you. How important is a pass rush near the goal line when the QB takes a 3 step drop and is throwing a fade to the corner to Moss, Owens, Andre Johnson, Santonio Holmes, etc? You need speed on the edges to match up with the different 3 and 4 receiver sets.
Also, considering Parcells and Co. have such an eye for linemen,
the risk/reward ratio is a lot higher on a lineman/linebacker than it is on a CB/WR.
is it safe
it was just a thought but if vick, gets reinstated is he fast enough to play cornner. is he a free agent or does he go back into the draft???
by wild zion beaver on Apr 20, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
what the hay let everyone think we will get the best center pick up draft picks move down
if we haft to pick scraps no one left lets talt tradelions have #20 go up 5 spots give them a 4 & 6 swap 2s position with them take jenkins if still there
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