Talking Lauranitis
by KCarr9 on Mar 8, 2009 7:04 PM EDT
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The other day i read an interesting article in The Sporting News about 40 yard dash times. In the article it mentioned which teams take the least value value in the 40 times, the Dolphins, Colts, and the Patriots value it the least, while Raiders, Rams, and Cheifs value it most. Looking at the way the previous drafts have gone it seems like the Fins, Colts, and Pats know whats up. This being said, James Lauranitis ran a gawd awful 40 time, and saw his draft staus drop faster than the NYSE. A few months ago, the 6 foot 2 inch slow poke was at the top of mock drafts, now, hes more than likely to be on the board when the Dolphins have their first pick. So this begs the question, do we pick this guy up?
NFL.com has this to say: Prototype size and athleticism for the inside linebacker position. ... Reads the action quickly and gets in position to make the play. ... Instinctive and rarely out of position. ... Uses his hands well to meet, greet and discard blockers. ... Best attribute might be his open-field tackling. ... Form tackler who can generate explosiveness with his hits. ... Rare instincts and underrated athleticism for coverage. ... Gets good depth on his drops and has good straight-line speed and lateral agility. ... Baits the quarterback and can break on the ball. ... Soft hands for the interception.
Negatives: Needs to continue to add strength, especially in his upper body. ... Relies on his athleticism and good technique to defeat blocks and can struggle to disengage. ... Consistent and reliable, but rarely made the game-changing play over his career. ... Experienced and productive blitzer, but doesn't show a variety of pass rush moves, relying more on athleticism, hustle and instincts.
While inside linebacker isnt our most pressing need, this man mountain of awesomness amassed 366 career tackles. In my opinion, forget the measurables, if you can play football, you can play football. Measurables only mean so much, just ask the New York Jets and Vernon Leaf...... I mean Gholston
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Hmmm
“Consistent and reliable, but rarely made the game-changing play over his career”
Sounds familiar? cough Crowder cough
seems like we would just be drafting the same player
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by Cfrfootball39 on Mar 8, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is one of 6 possibles
The 3 USC LBs, Maybin, and, English that I think we’ll end up with in the first round with Lauranitis last on the list of the 6. I have read where he can play both inside and out shrugs
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by Blaze453 on Mar 8, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First thing i thought of too
But hey, he could be inconsistant and unreliable while still not making plays like Reggie Torbor or Akin Ayodele
by KCarr9 on Mar 8, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The few games i have seen him play
i was impressed…..i have absolutely no idea who we should take and who the Trifecta might take, i will just smile and nod when we make our picks lol
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Mar 8, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF am i missing?
are these guys or are these guys not wearing shorts and muscle shirts when they run these damn times?
I have no idea what this guy did in college……but if he was a top 15 pick…and a 40 time is what is dropping him 15-20 spots…then thats just a crock.
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by Rzayo24 on Mar 8, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Mar 8, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah But...
There is a reason he is slipping. 4.8 in college may not translate to the pros. The pro game is much quicker, much faster. AJ Hawk played the same position as this guy and ran .2 faster (4.58). He was drafted 5th in ‘06. Hawk is a nice player, but not special. If Hawk isn’t a standout playing the same position and can run, why would you want Lauranitis who can’t run?
by ct1361 on Mar 8, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhh again i dont know much bout this guy....
but sometimes numbers dont tell the story…and im not selling on a LB cuz he is .2 slower…how many times do LB’s run full speed in a game? arent they tip toing around the line…or rushing the passer zig zagging?
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by Rzayo24 on Mar 8, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen Rzayo,,
Make these kids run in pads…
A good scout will actually time them in game situations and compare vs their “street” times. Throw some pads on Bolt, let Y-Bell tackle him 2-3 times at the knees, and see how many world records he can break…
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by NJDolphan68 on Mar 8, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I know is that I watched him play against Florida, LSU, and Texas
in BCS bowl games and he was slow. If he couldn’t keep up with those players, he won’t in the NFL.
by ct1361 on Mar 8, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, Hawk is a beast and he would instantly be the best LB on our roster
I don’t know how he is just a "nice player?
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by cbdolphin on Mar 9, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be the best LB on the phins roster...
but that says more about the quality of LB’s that the phins have than it does about whether Hawk is a beast. Here are some stats from ’08:
Hawk: 86 tackles, 3 sacks, 0 int
Matt Roth: 53 tackles, 5 sacks, 0 int
Those to me a “nice player” numbers. Hawk played in a 4-3 and Roth in a 3-4, so they might not translate exactly. So here is some stats for a Beast for each defense:
Lance Briggs (4-3): 110 tackles, 0.5 sacks, 3 int
Lamarr Woodley (3-4): 60 tackles, 11.5 sacks, 1 int.
by ct1361 on Mar 9, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This year he had the worst year of his career
The two years prior
105 tackles, 1 sack, 1 int.
119 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 2 int
So if you are considering Briggs a “beast” due to the fact that he had 110 tackles, half a sack, and 3 int, A.J. Hawk must be closer to being a “beast” than he is a “nice player”.
A.J. Hawk has been and will continue to be a very very solid OLB and I wouldn’t be surprised if he snuck into a few pro-bowls either.
I’m not saying he is the greatest, but to say he is merely a “nice player” is just completely incorrect.
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by cbdolphin on Mar 10, 2009 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id be very disappointed
if we got laurenitis, hes a poor mans zach thomas without the closing speed and play making ability, any 3 of the USC LB’s or larry english would be a better fit on a defense who needs versatility and playmaking ability
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by finZ on Mar 8, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gee...
Sounds like a young Urlacher to me. I think i would still take a chance on him. You have to remember that if he came out last year, he likely would have been a top 10 pick. Everyone was all over his salty sac, but now, they have likely cooled on him. That’s just fine with me. Let him drop to us. No worries, I’ll take him.
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by FinzD54 on Mar 8, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uh sorry guys
he does not sound anything like Urlacher, he ran a 4.82 thats 4.82 i mean FOUR POINT EIGHT TWO!!!!! there were O lineman with better times,(thats not a joke either its actually true) BU was 18 pounds heavier and ran 4.59 which would be the 2cd fastest LB in this draft. Stats dont mean EVERYTHING but they do have merit. This guy will look like a three legged turtle in the NFL.
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by uncle finster on Mar 9, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant D lineman
fastest O line man was 4.89.
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by uncle finster on Mar 9, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by bryankstro on Mar 9, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Inside LBS
only have to run fast for 15 yds. An usualy that forward momentum is distrupted by a very large force coming in the opposite direction. Lateral speed is esential.. stop looking at 40 times and pull out the numbers on the cone drills. If a LB is running 40 yds or 20 yds on a flat sprint, the play has passed him by.
Lateral speed…
Paterno, father LB, once noted, half-kidding, that he’d rather have a slow guy mess up because a faster guy would be further out of the play.- there’s some merit to that quote.
For LBs- Instinct and intelligence can add speed. Once split second of indecision negates all those fancy stats… This is why Zach was so good for so long. There’s nothing more valuable than being at the right place at the right time. If your defense is set up to allow the LB a one -on-one with the ballcarrier then your LB better be in position.
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by NJDolphan68 on Mar 9, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would rather have Ray
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by Foy on Mar 9, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No to Lauranitis
He is an Ohio State LB. How is Katzenmoyer doing these days? AJ Hawk was supposed to be the next coming but he is average at best. I am not sold on Lauranitis. The 40 time was extrememly slow for a top notch LB. Please saty away from him BP.
by 50FootFall on Mar 9, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol and Carpenter in Dallas isnt that great at all...
mantastic hair though…very mantastic
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by Rzayo24 on Mar 9, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carpenter is a complete bust!
And stop looking at guys hair, and mantastic? What is ITM of you.
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by uncle finster on Mar 9, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea well i tend to always be ITM
dude how can u say hes a bust? Hes great on First Pizza…and his HAIR! its just just …..MANTASTIC
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by Rzayo24 on Mar 9, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wears a garter under his thigh pads too...
Bull Durham style…
He’s got a “bro” on too to protect his roid by-product man cones,,,
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by NJDolphan68 on Mar 9, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao What can i say you deserve that award!
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by uncle finster on Mar 9, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And guess who drafted Carpenter, Bill Parcells.
by ct1361 on Mar 9, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hi there negaitve nelly
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by Rzayo24 on Mar 9, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone makes mistakes, even the Parcells.
I think for the most part, I would let him draft my team. lol.
by ct1361 on Mar 9, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a very big Laurinaitis fan
It looked like he hit his ceiling his junior year, and it’s never good to peak in college. I could be completely wrong on that, but from what I saw, it’s a possibility.
He also just seems like he would get completely overwhelmed by the speed in NFL. He played in the Big 10, a notoriously slow conference, and against the two fastest teams on the schedule last season, he had two of his worst games, posting the exact same 9tak (6solo) no impact plays line vs USC and Texas. I don’t remember how he played against UF in ‘07, but it’s a small red flag that he didn’t play well against the elite, faster teams.
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