and where in the draft do you think he will go?

but we should just wait for Tebow next year.

I love it. The last week or so I’ve had visions of White running the option out of the wildcat and pitching to Ronnie, the next play faking the handoff and passing down the sideline to Ricky. i think that he would be a great fit for our offense. The next Antwaan Randle-El. He’s a heck of an athlete, versatile, and a proven winner. Ease him into a WR spot, and play him on special teams. 3rd round pick???? I am on the Pat White band wagon…even though he did play in the Weak East. LOL

never have been a big “crossover player” fan. Randel-El was like one of 100’s that tried. Build smart, build positions, stay away from the gimmicks.

Two huge things immediately jump out at me:

1) This team relied on the Wildcat formation as a crutch, in order to cover up their deficiencies in running between the tackles. Assuming they improve in that area this season and beyond, the Wildcat should be used less and less, as conventional running plays take precedence.

2) This is the major one. The main reason why the Wildcat was successful was because the team could run it without changing personnel, and thus preventing the defense from having the opportunity to change personnel. If Pat White became the Wildcat QB, every time he checked into the game, the defense would obviously know the formation was coming, and would be given the opportunity to sub in their package specifically designed to stop it (see something like the Ravens using 5 linebackers). As it is, the team simply huddles up, and when they trot out in the WC the other team is caught off guard somewhat and can’t substitute to match. But bringing Pat White in and out would destroy any surprise factor as well as give the other team the opportunity to match up.

It won’t work like that.

He’s a slower, bigger Jayson Foster and I liked Jayson Foster with less experience as a WR.

Thats why it would be important to get White some time as a WR as well. if you keep the D guessing where he is going to line up you would maintain the element of surprise. We need playmakers. Ted Ginn has as many rushing tds as receiving tds, he’s a playmaker, I think White could do some of the same things, just not as polished a receiver as Ginn (although polished might be pushing it a bit with Ginn, he has a bit of work to do)

1- We need that pick- We are in a vital phase of our rebuilding process and last year with our high picks we got Langford and Merling, who are ready to fully start this season at the D-Line, and we also got what we believe to be our next franchise QB. So my point is that in such a phase of the rebuilding process you want to utilize these high picks to get true starters like a CB or an every down LB. I see this as kind of the Percy Harvin case, just a luxury we cant yet afford.

2- I would hate to see us use 3 straight 2nd round picks to draft a QB, and more if we dont believe this guy can be a true starter and franchise qb, not just a situational player.

That said, I do believe this guy is a great player, and have no doubt that he can be successful in this league as a true QB and not just a situational player, not for nothing his stock just sky rocketed, however I believe that if you draft a QB in the second round, then you have to see him as a future starter and we already have that one on our roster.

 letting him run 10-15 plays a game from the Wildcat would be truly fascinating and could do amazing things for our offense this season, however, this would mean that White would get a lot of touches during practice along with CP10, meaning that Chad Henne´s development would dramatically deteriorate. Also, I we want to develop into a PTR team and have a dominant O-Line, then it is time to learn how to run the ball up the middle and stop all the gimmicks once and for all. (Which I actually hate, i hate teams that pound the rock, I´d be the happiest fan if Pat White turned the Wildcat into the Greatest Show on Turf)

PS- IS MATT SANCHEZ some kind of fusion between Matt Stafford and Mark Sanchez? haha lol just kidding thought I´d give you a heads up.

had the same knocks about size coming out of WVU, and he too shreded rutgers. He turned out pretty well, but White might not be able to take the pounding in the running game at the NFL level, thats the only concern I have. Other than that, he’s a more accurate Kordell Stewart.

I love the kids athleticism and the fact that he can throw the rock far and accurately. My heart says hell yeah get him, but my mind says no. If we were in contender mode, then sure get his ass in a dolphins uniform and lets drive the NFL crazy. But we need essential positions filled with the first two rounds worth of picks. Maybe, if was still in the 3rd or 4th(which I doubt) I’d say get him. But we need more pressing positions drafted and sculpted to become our future. Cornerback (will Allen is getting up there and will be a FA soon), NT, we all know this position takes time to develop, LB Jpeezy is starting to get weezy down the home stretch. Plus defenses know that he is the only true pass rushing threat we have. Defenses win games (and really good kickers if you are Adam Vinateri and the Pats). If all we needed in the draft to finish up our dynasty was a WR, then sure. Pick him up in the 2nd. But right now as fascinating and interesting as it may sound to get him. We can’t. Not now. I am sure he will go in the NFL and demolish some teams. He may even play the Dolphins and burn us with the same Wildcat that you mentioned that he would excel in. But he would do that for a team that is already on the cusp. Sorry Matty, you are always good for making a thought provoking piece. But I am going to say pas on Pat White (unless he is available in the 4th maybe 3rd round).

Prolly not our biggest need… but the kid is a player.

Although if we keep the wildcat up and running, with our improved O-line… I don’t think there is a better player in football to be in the wildcat. Sub him for Pennington and you would have Ronnie, Ricky, Cobbs, and White.

but not in the second round. We take needs in the defense, maybe even a WR because of the long-term potential, over a short-term “fix” like the Wildcat offense. Besides, this was done to infuse some life into the offense due to our weak offensive line. Once the new unit gels and we can pound the ball up the defense’s throats, I believe the Trifecta finds less and less need for it outside of the occasional big play potential. I don’t at all think it’s efficient to draft White that early for such short-term potential (a la Henne’s arrival possibly/probably signaling the decline in Wildcat formation usage).

And the kid is adamant about not switching positions..

for a 4th round pick, then get White in the 4th round. Good 3rd string QB but also available to learn the WR position. I dont see him going in the first 2 rounds but maybe late in the 3rd or early 4th.

I do see what you mean in wanting him to come here. He is an excellent runner and would be an excellent player in the wildcat formation. To be honest I wouldn’t mind getting rid of beck and having white come in and see what he can do. He is a competitor and thats what usually succeeds in the NFL. Great runner, accurate throws, and can make defenders miss in the backfield.

But he also is impatient in reading the defense and would rather just take off and run. Lets just pretend we would have him be are starting QB. Players like this prefer to do what they are comfortable with and he would run a lot more than pass I think. He would have to learn patience and learn to read defenses. I think he could be molded into a QB, but what about Henne? I don’t think we bring this guy in just for a wildcat formation and instead use our pick else where. Inless we plan on forming him into a QB to compete with Henne once the starting job opens, then I think we should take a stab at him because the right training and he could become an above average QB and a dangerous weapon on offense.

On nfl network they interviewed him and he told everyone he is ready to be a QB and not a WR. But he did mention the wildcat being something he is comfortable with. So you never know…

I wouldn’t use a pick on him. Should have just kept Jayson Foster. ;-)

I just don’t see how he makes the team. Unless Beck gets traded (which is actually likely, I think).

We already have a logjam at the “scrappy YAC” receiver position with Camarillo and Bess.

is where most of the runs come in the wildcat! That is why you need a RB to run the wildcat, not to mention tipping your hat! As soon as you send him in the jig is up! This is a RUNNING formation you cant send a QB up the middle time after time, unless your trying to KILL HIM! All the runs between the tackles set up the other stuff, and it is precisely why you need a RB running it, because of the threat they pose up the middle! White may be a good runner in the open field, but an NFL D-Lineman just has to stick his arm out and grab him and he’s done, because there’s NO open field between the tackles!

Too bad somone scooped you with the Pat White in the Wildcat fanshot. Now…who could that outstanding contributor be? I guess I should go look…

Tho I get frustrated sometime with the Wildcat Formation the advantage with Pat is he could even first go under center and by then the defense is stuck especially if Chads still out there. Being a WVU fan for nearly 30yrs I know the special that Pat brings to the table and if there we would be crazy not to get him. To me its not a wasted pick cause with Ronnie the QB football IQ isn’t there plus if he lines up at WR he’s reading the D just like Chad is and could even be a Hines Ward kinda guy in time(weight room a must) and who knows he impressed the so called experts so much at the combine he could actually be the future now don’t get me wrong I’m glad we got Henne but you never know.

its to bad he wants to play QB….doesnt this guy play for the redskins….my bad thats antwaan Randle El. how did he turn out.

i’ve been thinking the same thing – after his wowing at the combine, i’m not entirely sure someone won’t grab him at the end of the first – start of the second….

and then the question is do you take him in the first and further cloud the whole QB situation on the team??? it’s bad enough that there will be a divisive transition to henne (unless penne has an injury – like bledsoe to brady) but to add another QB to the mix, and one take before the heir, would be just asking for trouble.