Dolphins Depth Chart - A way to break down Miami's needs
While free agency is still in full swing, I'm not holding my breath for another big signing. This front office has spent a lot of money already this offseason and I think they're going to turn their attention to the draft now.
With that in mind, the best way to quickly examine the entire roster and identify the Dolphins' biggest needs is to create a "mock depth chart." So that's what I've done.
The full depth chart can be found below (after the jump), mainly because it would take up too much room on the front page. So take a look at it and then tell us all what you feel are this team's most glaring needs.
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | 4th Team | |
| QB | C. Pennington | C. Henne | J. Beck | |
| RB | R. Brown | R. Williams | P. Cobbs | L. Hilliard |
| FB | L. Polite | C. Brown | ||
| WR | T. Ginn | B. London | E. Wilford | T. Lowber |
| WR | G. Camarillo | D. Bess | A. Armstrong | |
| TE | A. Fasano | D. Martin | J. Haynos | |
| LT | J. Long | |||
| LG | J. Smiley | J. Berger | S. Murphy | |
| C | J. Grove | S. Satele | ||
| RG | D. Thomas | I. Ndukwe | A. Alleman | |
| RT | V. Carey | B. Frye | N. Garner | |
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | 4th Team | |
| DE | K. Langford | L. Dotson | ||
| NT | J. Ferguson | P. Soliai | J. Cohen | |
| DE | P. Merling | R. Starks | R. Wright | |
| OLB | M. Roth | Q. Moses | E. Walden | T. George |
| ILB | C. Crowder | R. Torbor | ||
| ILB | A. Ayodele | W. Kershaw | ||
| OLB | J. Porter | C. Wake | C. Anderson | |
| CB | W. Allen | J. Thomas | S. Babers | |
| CB | J. Allen | N. Jones | W. Billingsley | |
| FS | G. Wilson | C. Bryan | E. Kilmer | |
| SS | Y. Bell | T. Culver |
Here's what I take from examining the very "rough" depth chart above:
- Cornerback is probably this team's most glaring hole right now. And Will Allen is a free agent following the '09 season. Right now, I'd be shocked if the Dolphins didn't spend a first day pick on a corner.
- Inside linebacker definitely needs at least a "depth" addition. Reggie Torbor was unimpressive filling in for Crowder against KC last year and William Kershaw is nothing more than a very good special teams player. The thought of Kershaw having to see time at linebacker scares me.
- Assuming Donald Thomas and Justin Smiley both can make it back from injury (Thomas will definitely be ready; and the early reports are good on Smiley - but his injury was a serious one), the Dolphins are suddenly deep along the interior offensive line. Samson Satele could probably play guard if needed - and we might see him work there during camp - and Andy Alleman and Ike Ndukwe each have quality starting experience. But a solid backup tackle is needed - and I'd look for the Fins to spend a day two draft pick on a tackle to develop behind Carey and Long. The good thing, of course, is that Carey can swing to LT if he Long ever got hurt (yes - I'm knocking on wood).
- Miami's defensive ends are young. But if Lionel Dotson proves to be a solid backup, this will be a very promising unit.
- I don't trust Paul Soliai - and nobody else probably does, either. A young NT is a need.
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Soliai
there must be something there that these guys like… so don’t undersell him….
1) there was that play in the playoffs that had miami scored a TD who knows… big play during a big game which is a good sign
2) some of his team mates have worked hard with him the last 2 years
3) the coaching staff kept him around when they were axing left and right after at least two incidents that were enough to warrent suspensions.
but otherwise – youth is needed at LB maybe a quality upgrade too.
CB – yup but once FA prices drop as the market dries up, i’d expect a move on some of the B level talent which is asking for A level money right now
late round QB? if this staff is serious about transitioning to Henne, past history says penne will want to start and the team will need a QB in the event that Henne isn’t the real deal.
WR/TE who can block
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 4, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
actually agree with you
regarding Soliai. I do think its make or break time for him though. Reading somethings last year, they must see something in him. One thing that hurts, V. Holliday was really mentoring him, on and off the field. So now he needs to grow up and take advantage of this oppertunity. But, until he’s cut, I think he might be one of those diamond in the rough types.
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by HuskerDolphin on Mar 4, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
oddly enough he might end up as the last cammueller guy standing after this year…
sampson might go before the draft and ginn doesn’t fit the tunaflippers ideal wr size….
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 4, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i8t would be foolish to gt rid of Satele and Ginn
That would severely hurt our OL and WR depth.
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
by Patssuck456 on Mar 4, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OLB
You can add OLB to the mix. We need a playmaker opposite JPeezy. Agree with all the others.
This is very promising though, not many holes. We can fill the rest through the draft.
D lineman usually come on strong their 2nd year, so Merling and Langford should impress this year.
by gophish on Mar 4, 2009 12:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
1. Cornerback
2. linebackers, both outside and inside
3. nose tackle
4. wide out
5. o line
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by jupiterfins on Mar 4, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
gives good perspective on our depth, which is not looking to shabby going into the draft!
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 12:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Would anyone have an issue with the Dolphins
if they were to take an ilb early? I don’t see why it wouldn’t be just as possible to take an ilb to upgrade over ayodele. It would be nice to have someone that can create some turnovers at that position. Is it because his salary is too high to relegate to backup duty? Would we get someone that may be able to play both inside and out? I definitely believe we need at least two linebackers in this draft to improve the quality of our depth. I am not sold on C Wake being the answer. He is a low risk high reward type, so if he doesn’t pan out, then no big deal, but at least we didnt shell out a lot of money (different to the J Grove case in which we did shell out some dough, so he better work out). I think it is necessary to inject some youth and some better talent!
by picklescapone on Mar 4, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
at this point, i wouldn't have a problem with it.
but i think it is realistically 3rd on the needs list. If a real value pick was there, take it.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1st two picks
Our 1st two picks should be the best playmaking LBs available whether it’s inside or outside. Pressure on the QB makes mediocre CBs look good. If we can eventually pressure the QB like the past two Super Bowl teams, we will be in the running for a SB fo’ sho.
by gophish on Mar 4, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree regarding the pressure making the CBs look good
i don’t necessarily agree that a LB is the right pick. I think a true pocket-collapsing NT will bring more pressure and allow the LBs we have to clean up.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Satele an option at backup for the Guard spots?
Is that really it for him??? I was so excited about this guy like a year ago. Hard to believe the book is closed on this kid already. By that depth chart he’s entirely a 2nd stringer/practice player.
by alskor on Mar 4, 2009 1:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
again
No, we have little depth on the O -Line
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
by Patssuck456 on Mar 4, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1st three picks and more
We’ll use 3 of our first 4 picks in a combination of Cornerback, Linebacker, and WR.
That other pick will be used at Offensive line,
Some facts about the ‘09 draft. We won’t draft a QB, TE, or RB (assuming no trades occur, we could very well trade Martin). This isn’t really a fact because I have a bad memory and am no draft expert (not a college sports fan), but I don’t recall using our FB’s for much blocking so we’ll probably get an upgrade somewhere. We’re drafting a safety pretty early as well 4th round pick(no draft expert remember).
I guess I should have thought twice before creating my profile's name.
by Beck4Mercy on Mar 4, 2009 2:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
NT NT NT
if one of the top two are still available at 25.
period.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying that the Dolphins' biggest need has been a Corner since last year
It’s not that the other needs are not important, but think about how many games we lost or almost lost because our secondary play was poor (Houston, Arizona). Now with that said, maybe ILB is the safest thing because is historically is a safer position to draft than a corner, so for right now I’m predicting some kind of linebacker in the first, and a corner with 2nd 1 and a WR at 2nd 2.
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by Rytackle on Mar 4, 2009 7:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
help
1-agreed, corner needs help
2-agreed, ilb need help (personally i wonder how mad ray is at the baltimo? im sure he’d love to be back in s.flo. youth is always made better round exp’d all pro’s)
3-wideout, love ginn & cam but they need some help
4-o line needs some beef w/ skills: draft, draft, draft. and draft smart (i kno the tuna will!)
5-im still not sold on cp @ qb. I dont think henne is quite ready but cp is not that steady (though i’ll take him over the last 2 clown we’ve had back there).
by dolphimite on Mar 4, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm still sticking to my Maulaluga pick
jump up to 8 spots if we need to…. Crowder, Mauluga with Ayodele as a backup sounds alot better than what we have now.
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by BSerious72 on Mar 4, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Amazing change
I love the depth chart analysis. Last year (pre-knowledge of this website), I did my own projected depth chart in excel, and remember thinking about how many holes there were and desperately hoping that the Cowboys didn’t resign or franchise Hamlin.
One year later, I look at the depth chart and feel pretty good about most areas. I am still not a huge Porter fan, although I very much appreciate what he did this past season. And I am still wary of a few holes we have… but in comparison to last year it is absolutely amazing how much improved this team looks on paper.
by Patrick Bateman79 on Mar 4, 2009 12:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i did the same thing
awesome job huh? you don’t really see how much this team has improved the bottom half of the roster until you look at it this way.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DE position
I remember being optimistic when we drafted Wright, but after a few years of not really seeing much in the way of results, I think I am ready to move on with a different developmental guy.
I think I read that Fred Evans received the lowest tender offer from Minnesota. I remember when he got cut alot of the players stood up for him and thought he could be a solid contributor.
If we don’t end up signing another DE, or selecting one in the draft, I would be interested in making a play for him. I haven’t read that he’s signed his tender yet, so could still be available.
I think the stories were that it took several cops and tasers to bring him down. Dude sounds like a force.
by Patrick Bateman79 on Mar 4, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Matty....
CB AND LB stuck out to be BIGTIME. Everyone wants the flashy WR in the first day, but we wont get a true#1 there so why draft ANOTHER #2-#3 WR?
1ST PICK needs to be a Corner if you ask me….Jason Allen starting a whole season…1)will never happen….2)scares the shit out of me cuz he sucks really really really bad
take a corner in 1st….2nd rd…take a LB….2nd 2nd rd pick…best player avail….maybe there is ur wideout
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by Rzayo24 on Mar 4, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1st s/b a best available player from among NT, LB, CB
Assuming Raji goes before we pick (almost certain), Brace s/b our #2 pick.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
T. George?
Has anyone seen T. George play? I am not very familiar with him.
Quentin Moses seems to stand out like a sore thumb to me in the 2nd string column. I am doubtful he will make it out of training camp.
I also suspect that Kilmer will be ahead of Bryan by the start of the season.
by Patrick Bateman79 on Mar 4, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what sucks is Moses looked like he had a TON of potential 2 yrs ago...
you were talking about Wright, and i agree with you, but i am also really disappointed in Moses. I thought he could be a solid pass rusher.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NT, D-line, LBs & CBs.
We also signed NT Joe Cohen, an undrafted UF alum. Big guy, 6’2" 321 lbs. I think the NT position is a lot more solid than people think with Ferguson, Soliai, and Cohen. I don’t seem the trifecta spending a 1st or 2nd rounder on a NT.
The D-line is solid, and young. Langford, Starks, Ferguson, Soliai, Merling, Dotson, Wright, and Cohen. Maybe they take a DT or DE in one of the later rounds just like last year.
I’d probably go with either a LB or CB because those are our biggest needs on defense. We have a solid core of LBs, Crowder, Porter, Ayodele, Roth, Wake, Anderson, Moses, Torbor, but you can never have enough LBs in a 3-4 scheme. CB we lack depth and a #1 guy, Will Allen is solid but he is aging and I wouldn’t put it past this regime to take a guy like Alphonso Smith, CB from Wake Forest, with the 1st rounder.
The other way to go is the possibility to sign a FA CB or a couple, theres a lot of pretty solid ones out there. I was actually just compiling a list to post on here to see what you guys think of the FA CBs and who we might be able to sign because just about anyone would automatically upgrade the position and provide depth.
by tdoublem23 on Mar 4, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if you are right about NT, that would be awesome.
but i have my doubts about Soliai, and know nothing about Cohen (other than stats).
But i know this for certain, if we don’t get a NT who can collapse the pocket, we are gonna get picked apart by guys like Brady. And while Ferguson is solid, he is not “that guy”.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The good thing is that we have alot of options with the 25th pick.
1) DBs- yes that means a Corner and a Safety
2) WR- no shit huh?
3) LB-Maluagua or Luaranitis would be nice.
4) DT – Fergy is old and wont last much longer.
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
by Patssuck456 on Mar 4, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you speak the truth
BPA at a position of need means we should be able to get a stud. I would specifically say NT though and I think there are only two worth anything as far not being a project, and the second of the two we s/b able to pick up in the second.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 4, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think NT will be filled in round 2-4.
Brace, Moala, Taylor, Sammie Lee Hill, all of them are projected in that range. Brace obviously would have to be taken at the top of round 2, and the others we could probably snag on Day 2.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 5, 2009 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
help
I like Cushing and Maualuga! But i really wanted to pose a question and get some feedback from the board…youth is good – in fact i think youth is great but what about having some HOF bound experience in the mix. I’ve just been thinking about one of the championship teams of the Lakers…what do you all think about adding Harrison, Brooks, Pace and bringing back Taylor at a reduced price (lets say 1-2 mill a yr for 1-2 yrs) and using them in alternate situations (3rd wideout, 3 downs, etc…)? just a thought… please somebody help clear up my thinking about this.,,,
by dolphimite on Mar 12, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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