Proposed Rule Changes
by k2oconnor on Mar 24, 2009 8:39 PM EDT
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PrintI just wrote up a huge post for this, than hit publish and lost it cause I lost internet.
But anybody take a look at the 4 rule changes?
1. Further spacing on onside kicks to eliminate fierce collisions.
This makes it harder for a the already difficult onside kick to be successful.
2. No More Wedges on kick off: No more than two players can be shoulder to shoulder with in two yards
Well this becomes a patty cake on kick off, no wedge makes it hard for anybody to return a kick.
3. The Patriot Act or the Tom Brady is God lets protect him rule
No longer can a player continue his path to the ball carrier if he is on the ground. He must get up than continue to the ball carrier. They can swipe their feet, but there will even be a fine line there! I now have to wait for a 300 lb Dlinemen to get his fat butt off the turf and start after the QB again, and chances are by the time he gets to the QB the ball is gone.
4. No more forearm or shoulders to the head on blocks or tackles
I agree with this one, the head must be protected, and yes it is hard to know what the other player is going to do or be cause they can turn or move, but no player should aim for the head on any hit. Shoulder to shoulder is always good for me.
This is football! A contact sport, not shuffle board (sorry to you avid shuffle board fans). A player can already be flagged for sniffing the QB, he has pads on let him play the game! I love how there is rule out specifically for Tom Brady. I hope he trips and injures himself on his wifes dog so next year it will be a15 yard penalty and a fine for players to own dogs....Thoughts.
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Gotta protect the money.
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can't argue with these rules
I was watching the buffalo game when ???? (sorry – can’t think of his name) broke his neck. and anything they can do to lessen the impact these guys take on kick offs i’m in favor of.
4) – yeah blows to the head are getting a little out of hand and i have no problem with them getting rid of them… now they just have to enforce them…. IIRC there is a rule about helmet to helmet hits on QB’s which seemed to have been forgotten by B Scott and Ed houculiar in the playoff game. (i really feared for penne after that hit)
3) i’m not sure i’d call this the tom brady rule as much as the Jared Allen cheap shot rule to take out QB’s who are shredding your defense rule… i believe if you watch the highlights of Allen cheap hit on schaub’s knee you’ll know what this rule is about…. as to the brady hit – he was blocked into brady – so it wouldn’t be a penalty even with this rule.
I see what your saying
However all reporters say the one key play the owners kept referencing was the Tom Brady play.
Pollard did get blocked down, but than lunged from his knees to get him. Which I think should not be penalized.
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not going to disagree with
the characterization of the rule (since the press/pr people will go with the bigger name), but from what i’ve seen of the play pollard didn’t do any actions, unlike Allen on schaub, which i saw on replay that looked intentional.
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 25, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Everett was the Bills TE's name.
that broke his neck on kickoff. But it had nothing to do with any kind of 3-man wedge or multiple people running into him, it was just him, the returner, and a tackle that went wrong.
by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 24, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
beg to differ
was watching live when it happened. he was there wedge buster.
but otherwise the point is there are violent collisions on kickoffs that put people in serious risk
and anything the nfl can do to ameliorate that risk is good and i doubt very much that either of us would argue against that point.
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 25, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
No I have no problem eliminating the wedge
I think it’s a good move. But you can’t use Everett as an example because the wedge isn’t the reason he got hurt.
by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 25, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
my apologies – i watched the video (kind of avoided it since i watched it live and i really don’t like that kind of thing much)
i guess that’s why the say eyewitnesses are always the weakest link in an evidence chain.
but he was the wedge buster and if the video started earlier you’d likely see leading the team down when he pulls up and goes around the wedge…
but otherwise i think we are all in agreement that lessening the possibility of serious injury is a good thing.
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 26, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
definitely
Blowing up the wedge is akin to running fullspeed into a brick wall, while the brick wall runs full speed at you. Not a good situation for anyone.
What I hope is that the inability to form a wedge will lead to more creativity in the kick-return game (reverses, fake reverses, Music City Miracle, the high school “sunburst” trick, etc etc) to try to break a big gain or a touchdown.
by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 26, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
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The only rule change that I don't like is the get back up rule.
Takes away from the outside LB crawling and making the sack at the last second before the ball is thrown. Are these rules set or are they still proposed?
12-4 in 2009.
I agree that it's a stupid rule
and it’s an overreaction to the Brady injury IMO. So what happens now to Dwight Freeney, who dips his shoulder and alot of times gets pushed down to all fours before exploding into the QB or stripping the ball? Or the LB who comes in blitzing, gets cut, and from a knee wraps the QB up and drags him to the ground?
Is it specifically the lunging at legs from your knees? Or is it all players on the ground making any move toward the quarterback?
The NFL keeps making rules every year to try and protect the QB, and roughly half of the game 1 starters get hurt every year.. Just let them play.
by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't think of a solid pass rusher that doesn't hit the ground and keep pursuit.
Totally hypothetical but what if: Porter hits a QB and doesn’t take him down but makes him pull the ball down and step sideways into Roth that has been blocked to the ground, If the QB falls over Roth is that a penalty? If so, NFL is going to get real crappy. If the same incident happens to Bruschi and Wilfork, then it will disappear in 2010.
Screw this! This Pansie ass crap pisses me off.
12-4 in 2009.
arent they taught
to keep going until the whistle, no matter what? including if you get knocked down….i’m pretty sure they are, and if thats the case A LOT of linemen, if not all, are going to have to reprogram themselves
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Mar 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but
there is the honest pursuit and then there is the J allen 3 hopper into schaub’s knee.
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 26, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Only one i agree with is the forearm or shoulder to the head
that is def a good safety rule and will prevent more concussions and broken necks and whatnot….but the other rules are total BS and not too happy about them…i really dont like the wedge rule, it going to make returning kicks that much harder…
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Mar 25, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
I can even handle the QB slide bullshit I think this rule effects a broader span than just rushing the QB
The rule (at least what is posted above) says “BALL CARRIER”. So if a RB is slicing up the middle on a cutback and the NT is blocked down but still reaches out and trips the RB, wouldn’t the term “ball carrier” make that play a penalty? What if a wide-out makes a grab and the corner fell down, can the corner not trip up the wide-out while he is on the ground?
God I hope that I am wrong because that is WEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12-4 in 2009.
didnt think of that
i was only thinking that it referred to D-Lineman and the QB, but you bring up an interesting point and i hope to god that is not the case, or else there are going to be some serious problems…
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Mar 25, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i think this is stupid
what is a dline supposed to do these days? jesus!
2 man wedge tops….thats gonna pop some long returns this yr
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What happens if the LB's momentum from gettng knocked down causes him to slide in to the Qb?
Thats happened quite a few times, you cant punish them for obeying the laws of physics.
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