Dolphins close to deal with center Jake Grove
by Matty I on Mar 2, 2009 7:55 PM EST
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The Miami Herald is reporting that the Dolphins and former Raiders center Jake Grove are close to a contract.
According to this report, Grove was in town today for a free agency visit and an NFL source claims he is close to signing a deal with the Dolphins.
Grove, 29, has spent his first five NFL seasons in Oakland - where he's started 46 games for the Raiders. And Raiders' head coach Tom Cable was publicly vocal about the importance of re-signing their starting center. Said Cable on February 19:
"We want him to be back, obviously. So if he’s not there or until it’s resolved I’m not very comfortable at all."
Armando Salguero believes that if Grove is signed, and he expects Jake will, that he will unseat Samson Satele as the team's starting center. Says Salguero:
That will signal the Dolphins successfully finding the starting center they've been searching for since the end of the 2008 season. Although Grove and Samson Satele would be competing for the starting job, once you see the numbers on the Grove contract, you will understand Miami expects him to be the starter.
The Dolphins, I am told, were quite impressed by Grove's film but they really were impressed with his work during Miami's 17-15 victory over Oakland last season.
Not to hate on Armando, but Grove actually didn't play against the Dolphins - he was injured. (And they call him a real journalist)
While Grove isn't much bigger than Samson (6'4, 300), he's believed to be much more stout at the point of attack - which is what this regime has been searching for in a center.
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Someone already edited Grove's Wikipedia page...
… to be in Miami colors!
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
Probably need this...
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
And by this I mean...
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
Didn't chase Allen, released Holliday
Man, I wish I could figure “the plan.”
I, Tunaflipper, am the creator of the "Draft DJ Moore Bandwagon"
get
younger, faster, stronger, better. If this goes through, sounds like he’s a good fit. Satele can be used at guard giving us more depth. Grove is a “Dave Rimington” Trophy…………can’t be all bad…. : )
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by HuskerDolphin on Mar 2, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
put "winner" after Trophy......
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by HuskerDolphin on Mar 2, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
That slogan reminds me. . .
I don’t like the fact that he is already 29.
"Right now he’s got to be one of the best players in America. He’s got the best first step . . .What he did to prepare for that game is what legends are made of." Urban Meyer on Percy Harvin
Lonely Leader of the Percy Harvin Bandwagon.
starting the official
“Where the heck is Nicky?” search party. Haven’t seen him on here lately
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by HuskerDolphin on Mar 2, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
300 lbs is a bit on the light side. . .
maybe they are trying to split the difference between a pure athletic center like Satele and a mauler like Brown? Or maybe they will tell him to hit the buffet and put on another 10-15 lbs. . .
"Right now he’s got to be one of the best players in America. He’s got the best first step . . .What he did to prepare for that game is what legends are made of." Urban Meyer on Percy Harvin
Lonely Leader of the Percy Harvin Bandwagon.
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question...
But what is wrong with Samson Satele? I thought, from all accounts, that he has had a couple really good seasons for us. What are we going to give up on him just like that? I don’t mean to be critical, I just am not sure why they are making that choice. I know very little about offensive line play, but I thought he was one of our guys for the future.
Need clarification…
by BeLEGENDelliAllDay on Mar 2, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions
It's not so much what's wrong with him...
… because he could start for other teams. It has more to do with how incredibly good Vince Wilfork is.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
He can't get the push we need to have a consistent b/t the tackles running game-
http://www.thephinsider.com/2009/2/10/755629/a-look-at-samson-satele-do
That has our YPC behind center for last year, not including WC plays- not even 4 YPC.
"Right now he’s got to be one of the best players in America. He’s got the best first step . . .What he did to prepare for that game is what legends are made of." Urban Meyer on Percy Harvin
Lonely Leader of the Percy Harvin Bandwagon.
two things
1- the guy played hurt all year
2 – facing 8 or more in the box on every non passing play, there is no way the team will ever run between the tackles until they develop a deep passing game/threat.
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 2, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
It’s Pennington’s fault that Satele can’t handle Wilfork.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
2.8 YPC
that is what he got us against 3-4 fronts. I don’t care if it was 11 in the box with one leg, that is awful.
"Right now he’s got to be one of the best players in America. He’s got the best first step . . .What he did to prepare for that game is what legends are made of." Urban Meyer on Percy Harvin
Lonely Leader of the Percy Harvin Bandwagon.
doesn't matter
when teams are shutting down all the gaps/running lanes inside by flooding them…. there is no room to run.
they didn’t effectively run against the 4-3 either only against teams that played straight up.
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 2, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Pennington ?????
The Raiders had one of the worst passing games all last season and had a great running game. Teams also use to stack 8 in the box all the time against Vick yet the Falcons were always tops in the league. this isn’t a pennington problem … stop being an idiot
open your eyes
watch a game or two, not as a fan, but trying to evaluate what is going on and you’ll see who the idiot is.
by W NY Fins Fan on Mar 3, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
they are wide open ... are yours ??
2.8 ypc … Can’t you read .. it isn’t the safety or the linebacker making the tackles on those plays its the D-line blowing up the interior …. ie Satele or Ike.
I maybe wrong but I’m sure that Curtis Martin had a good year or two with Penny at QB so what happend then?
For my final point …. I will tend to agree with what the trifeca is doing and the fact that they are addressing the interior of the line and not the starting QB position leads me to believe I have a very strong point and I am sure they don’t watch tape as a fan.
very true .. just got a little pissed about the whole pennington debate .. thought you would understand lol
I guess if Sparano calls him the starter and sees him as the starter than why can’t this guy. I maybe a FAN of pennington because we did finally get a QB who could take us to the playoffs for the first time in 5 years. I just don’t like the whole its Pennys fault … like I said in my last post its probably a bit of everyones …. I apologize W NY Fins Fan … anyone cheering for the fins is good in my books and well not an idiot
nothing is wrong with Satele...
there are a few reports where he played half the season with an injury… (don’t remember what it was). but it’s always good to add a friendly competition. it always brings out the best in all of us…
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA MATTY BEST SLAP EVER!!!
lol “I am told”….what a friggin idiot…didnt even look into that tiny fact? so anyone can tell this clown anything and he totally just goes with it?
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA MATTY BEST SLAP EVER!!!
lol “I am told”….what a friggin idiot…didnt even look into that tiny fact? so anyone can tell this clown anything and he totally just goes with it?
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Grove
is supposed to be about Satele’s side, is hurt a lot, and known for being a finesse player.
Don’t get this one.
TH
well if they do sign him
jd moore will be my geuss at pick 25
here kitty kitty kitty BANG!
Dj Moore come on down
DJ?
"Right now he’s got to be one of the best players in America. He’s got the best first step . . .What he did to prepare for that game is what legends are made of." Urban Meyer on Percy Harvin
Lonely Leader of the Percy Harvin Bandwagon.
oh yeah
i always mix up jd and dj because seems like everyone has those to nicknames
here kitty kitty kitty BANG!
Dj Moore come on down
if you look above my name it says dj so it was a slight mix up
here kitty kitty kitty BANG!
Dj Moore come on down
Revenge on Raiders?
I think we are probably signing him away from the Raiders just to make them mad. The Raiders almost beat us and I bet that got Bill Parcells angry so he is deciding to punish them so next time they won’t come so close to winning against us.
No offense
but that idea is incredibly stupid.
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
lol
no kidding…….
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by HuskerDolphin on Mar 3, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like every hole is getting filled....
other than NT doesnt it?
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& CB maybe.
"Right now he’s got to be one of the best players in America. He’s got the best first step . . .What he did to prepare for that game is what legends are made of." Urban Meyer on Percy Harvin
Lonely Leader of the Percy Harvin Bandwagon.
trading up
going for the homerun… MauMau or BJ. Everyone could use a BJ.
Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions
somehow
we have to tighten up the hole in the middle…
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lol....dont we all wish we knew how to do that
"Worst 2 First"...Your 2008 AFC East Champion Miami Dolphins
kegels?
"Right now he’s got to be one of the best players in America. He’s got the best first step . . .What he did to prepare for that game is what legends are made of." Urban Meyer on Percy Harvin
Lonely Leader of the Percy Harvin Bandwagon.
that
crap didnt work for my wife.. Have to strap a 2×4 to my ass so i dont fall in….
Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions
i was
hoping someone would pick up on play on words.. 6 yrs in the Navy does that to you.
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lol- it wasn't exactly subtle
"Right now he’s got to be one of the best players in America. He’s got the best first step . . .What he did to prepare for that game is what legends are made of." Urban Meyer on Percy Harvin
Lonely Leader of the Percy Harvin Bandwagon.
isnt this shaping up
to be a good draft? Have some quality depth coming along. Looks like Alex Mack might be out of the equation now. But allows us to focus on D fence.
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This is a head scratcher for me.
Injury prone. Hasn’t played a full season since 2006. Obviously, the trifecta sees something in him they like. I think he is being brought in for competition at the position, not to be the outright starter.
Makes me think that one of the top 3 picks will not be used on an O-Lineman. Who knows though for sure.
Plus, I'm surprised that Al Johnson isn't being mentioned...
…to be in the mix. I believe he is a free agent right now. However, Parcells drafted him and made him the starter with the Cowboys, and thought well enough of him to bring him to the Dolphins.
i doubt they would sign him
if he wasn’t expected to be the outright starter. his contract will be worth too much to be a backup
but i agree
i am concerned about his durability as well (and he’s only getting older!), and also of how much of an upgrade he will actually be even if healthy
And i can't see him being signed for that much money...
…when the guy wasn’t even the starter on the Raiders.
My guess is he is competition for a back-up position at the C and G positions. I can’t see the Dolphins counting on this guy as a starter. He’s not a mauler at C. All of his scouting reports say he is a technical guy that can be bull rushed. Doesn’t sound like the kind of C they were looking for.
Poorly worded on my part.
I should have said “wasn’t the expected starter”.
I read in a few places where they were expecting Wade to replace him this year as the starter. And the Raiders were rumored to be interested in Jason Brown too. So it seems he may have been in the same exact situation Satele is right now.
FYI
Chad Johnson is sitting courtside with some dude in a suit and a hot chick…..with TJ gone dont u think he is 3 sec from asking for a trade?
2nd rd pick…..ill take him
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I don't think Grave has been a starter since 2006
Any one know any more on this guy?
The Patriots Suck
ESPN Insider Scouting Report says:
“Grove is a decent-sized center who has a lot of position versatility going for him having played both guard positions as well as center. He has played in all 16 games just once. He is slotted to be a backup to newly signed John Wade and could be in for the battle of his career as he tries to stay healthy through training camp. He understands angles and blocking schemes and does a good job of keeping his weight over his feet and under control. He shows good quickness off the snap and can step simultaneously with the snap to get out to the second level or to come out on the pull to lead the play. He is a good technician and does a good job of using his hands to control and steer opponents. He is not real strong or powerful and can be pushed back into the pocket by a good bull rush. He really needs to concentrate on using his leverage to bow up and hold his ground. He will fight and scratch to get the job done and plays with a good temperament.”
by dab415217 on Mar 2, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i hope this deal goes through
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Mar 2, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions
depth move
looks like we are trying to fill our OL depth through F/A so we can focus on other needs during the draft.
Fine by me because back-up OL are pretty easily had these days……….
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lol i musta missed how that went down....is he ever coming back? i feel like i have asked these questions before lol
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I believe the official statement is...
“He was dismissed for improprieties of a self sacrificing act that are now a moot point and dismissive of his character, Furthermore he will be back at an undisclosed time, in an undisclosed manner later in the future”
……..well maybe not those articulate words but that’s what Matty’s voice sounds like in my head :D
did you at least give him
a Phinsider Harmonica?
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by HuskerDolphin on Mar 3, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
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