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Report: Fins to make "huge push" for center Jason Brown

We're just a couple of days away from the beginning of free agency in the NFL.  And this is the time when the rumors really start flying.

One thing that's been rumored for a while is how the Dolphins are looking to upgrade at the center position.  Bill Parcells loves having big, strong, monster centers on his teams.  Samson Satele, unfortunately, is just not that guy.  He's undersized and has short arms - making him struggle mightily against some of the NFL's big, physical nose tackles.

Luckily for the Dolphins, Ravens' center Jason Brown could very well hit the open market when free agency begins at midnight eastern on Thursday night.  Brown's agent, Harold Lewis, has publicly said that he doesn't think the Ravens will be able to sign both of his clients - Brown and LB Bart Scott.  And the Baltimore Sun will is reporting that the Ravens are getting closer to inking a deal with Scott, leading us all to believe Brown will indeed get the chance to test the free agent waters.

What this means for the Dolphins is that they might have a chance to land their new starting center as soon as Friday.  The Miami Herald is just one of the sources to be reporting that the Dolphins have a high interest in Brown.  Writes Jeff Darlington:

As the start of free agency nears, the Miami Dolphins' interest in Baltimore Ravens center Jason Brown appears to be increasing each day, several sources said.

Speculation at the NFL Scouting Combine continued to build that Miami is targeting Brown as its clear top choice to replace Samson Satele as Miami's starter in the middle. Unless the Ravens can reach a new contract with Brown, he will become a free agent Friday.

That's encouraging to hear - at least to me - because the idea of adding Brown this offensive line gives me visions of "Ronnie Brown running wild" in my head.  But he's not going to come cheap.  Some reports indicate Brown is looking to be the game's highest paid center and is actually seeking "Alan Faneca money."  But the National Football Post, run by former NFL exec Michael Lombardi, writes this:

From talking to clubs and sources in Indianapolis, all indications are that the Dolphins, who need to improve the inside of their offensive line, will make a huge push to sign Brown, who along with Bart Scott seems to be on the sign-right-away list.  Samson Satele, Miami’s current center, is too short-armed and lacks range for the Fins to be the kind of productive line they want to be; he’s more of a back-up than a starter.  The Fins must upgrade at center, and Brown would help them do that.  One thing we know for sure, the Fins will strike at midnight.

Star-divide

While I'm sure the Dolphins will make a very fair offer to Jason Brown, is there a chance Brown might take a little less money to play in Miami?

His agent told the Baltimore Sun:

''A lot of players are all about [what team] can get me the most. I'm pretty blessed in having clients who aren't about who is the highest. It's who is the best fit."

"We're going to fight for every nickel and dime we possibly can. But the most important thing is to address what the players' wants are and their families' wants are.''

It's also believed that Jason, according to "a friend," likes Miami and would strongly consider an offer from the Dolphins.

So why should Dolphin fans get excited over, of all things, a center?  At 6'3, 320, he's exactly what this regime loves from their centers.  And his best days are still ahead of him, as he'll be only 26 in May.  His addition would mean that Miami's offensive line would be set at 3 positions for the foreseeable future - adding Brown to Jake Long and Vernon Carey.  If Donald Thomas turned out to be as good as this regime thinks he might be based on what they saw last training camp, and if Justin Smiley can get back to 100% after his injury last year, this offensive line could be downright dominant.

But I decided to go right to Ravens' fans to see what they had to say about Brown.  After all, they've seen him in action far more than any of us probably have.  Below is what one Ravens' fan, "Bullrush," said about Brown on the Ravens' team message board:

Brown doesn't have many weaknesses. Although he looks like a typical mauler, he's just as good in pass protection. I don't really recall us having any issues with DT's/NT's this season, and we pretty much played the best ones in the NFL on a regular basis. Haynesworth twice, shut him down. Hampton twice, shut him down. Rogers twice, shut him down. Then you have Ratliff, who is different than those big guys but he's a pro bowler as well and Brown shut him down. He did record a half a sack I believe, but that was vs our RG (Chester). Brown is big and strong yet he's got quick hands and feet. He can pull, and he's terrific when it comes to 2nd level blocking (linebackers, safeties), very useful on screens etc.

He can handle big NT's one on one and you have 2 of those in your division (Wilfork, Jenkins) so I can understand why the Dolphins would want to have him.

His only weakness really is that he's still young and that he's not as experienced as some of those other guys. And I don't even know if that's a weakness, because he'll get even better the next few years. Right now he's still young, he played center for only one season so he's not as good as say Kevin Mawae or Jeff Saturday when it comes to figuring out blitz schemes, stunts and all that. That stuff comes with experience. I just know that there isn't a guard or center I would rather have. The ones that are better (slightly) are already 30+ years old, and they can't even play both positions.
Sounds good to me.  Thanks to "Bullrush" for shedding some light on Jason.

So what do you guys think?  Would Jason Brown look good in aqua for the next 6 years?

Be sure to join us on Thursday night for a late-night free agency post that will include all the latest rumors and will be updated well into the night.

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I’m all for this. We gotta build from the inside out. Bill knows this as well. We would have a studly, offensive line for years (Long, Smily, Donald, Carey) if we can get this done.

Imagine, one of the Fins biggest weakness for the past 10 or so years will be its foundation to a solid contender. Beautiful.

"I have nothing to declare except my genuis."

-Oscar Wilde

by Neo on Feb 25, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

exactly, and if there is something Bill does best,

is building contenders with emphasis on both lines with big, strong players.

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you and me both brutha!

this one signing would make me happy for the whole FA period!

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 25, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This would be the kind of FA signing

that doesnt work against a rebuilding process, but with it. Its like getting a proven All-pro 1st round pick and having to give him that kind of money, however you still achieve the 2 Main Goals you are looking for in a Rebuilding Process-
1- Young player
2- Fits your “prototype” of player

Those are the two things that will get you to be successful

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yup

it’s rare to get a 25 year old up-and-comer in FA. And Brown is fast on his way to being an Elite Center in this league. I lock him up for the next 5 years at LEAST.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

totally, and if you come to think to it,

giving him 6 mill a year wouldn´t be that bad. I think you would be getting more than you give up

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

5 for $30mil

I’m on board with that.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yep and if you think about it,

if he plays the whole contract out, he´d do it exactly through his prime.

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And NOT lossing a 1st round pick in the process ; )

We have to sign him!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Feb 25, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bring him on

I have no problem spending money on the OL, especially on a guy like this. I’m excited about this. And the “Fins will strike at Midnight” thing makes a ton of sense to me. As soon as the FA period opens, we need to be on the phone with an offer to Brown. Don’t even let the bidding war start, get a good offer in and get him in here the first day lol.

From everything that’s happened so far, it appears that we may go all D on day 1. Something like FS/NT/CB (since I don’t know if Bell will be signed in time or if Goodman is working on a deal). Maybe Delmas/Brace/Harris? I’m cool with that. And if Bell is back or we bring in somebody like Gibril Wilson, maybe we can go with a LB first, like Cushing or Sintim.

Thursday night can’t come soon enough…

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll believe it when he is

standing in front of the mike………with the Dolphin colors behind him, and he is wearing a Dolphins hat saying………“I’ve always wanted to play for the Dolphins…………I’m so glad this worked out…………”

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

seriously?

Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions

by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you know we like to make a splash early

last year Smiley was signed at 12:37am Friday Morning. First signing of the period for any team.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so I think if we're targetting Brown

and as heavily interested as it’s being reported, we’ll be contacting and wheeling and dealing the minute the clock hits midnight

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I also read that

between the 3 FA possibilites that only one would have a chance of falling into Dolphin hands……..the 2 big ones….toooooooo pricey…….and the 3rd…….probably going to the Jets

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're talking about

Hayneworth, Lewis, and Scott?

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no he is talking about

Brown, Jim Leonhard, and Scott

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 25, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

word has it that haynesworth is going to the redskins

only snyder would pay that kind of money (or davis, but he is now broke)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 25, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow, one would think the 12:00 mark was symbolic as to say

´this whole thing starts in the morning first thing´ but you got to know that thats not how this league rolls. Workaholics basically

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no it's 24/7

but that’s the first time it’s “legal” to talk to the FA’s, so it’s pretty much like a starting gun for the “adding players” portion of the offseason.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yep, actually Bill should have waited a bit more last year

haha that Smiley move had Tempering written all over it lol

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

probably.. but it’s so hard to prove tampering, because an agent can come in representing a client on our team, and also a FA, and just say he was talking about our current player..

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly, a GM put it best:

he said something like: I just dont think there is anyway to enforce the whole tampering thing, i think it has more to do with human nature.

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Husk

part of the fun of the off-season is all the prognostication going on and being excited and getting your hopes up. But I get you though lol

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mau man......

I’ve been down this road God knows how many times……….lol When they don the Dolphin uniform…….thats when I get excited and put my faith into them. Its just wasted energy otherwise………I deal with the “what is” not the “what could be’s” but hey……..who am I to tell you there is no Santa Claus……right? : )

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you are totally right,

actually I dont even want to think about what it fell like to imagine guys like Drew Brees in a Dolphins uniform and then never see it happen

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bad memories lol

but I’m an eternal optimist, I like to think things like this will work out for us. And if it doesn’t, move on to the next scenario lol

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol.......you just said it there Mau

I remember with vivid memory….. And the Dolphins take Jamal Fletcher……….

I about puked………..they could have had Drew Brees right there!!!……………ugh…….thats why I don’t get all hyped in the what if’s stuff. When it gets close to reality, I’ll hope, but when they become Dolphins………….I’ll CHEER!………..and I don’t care what the experts say, and if its a good or bad pick………….they are Dolphins! Therefore they are on my team, and will get my 100% support.

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

(gag)

ew Jamar Fletcher

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CKC got skank jacked............

but I’ll talk here with ma boys

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Satele

Maybe we can sign Brown and trade Satele to the the Ravens for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Give him back to Cam.

by gophish on Feb 25, 2009 1:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i just don't know about that..........

at what price? I’d love Brown, I mean………he fits as far as what we are looking for…..but the bucks are what concern me. I dunno………if we put that much money into the o-line……….we better kick some serious NFL ass in the running game.

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly, well said. And what worries me

is that we just dont have the look of a 40 carries a game team

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not yet we don't.

I think with Ronnie and Ricky, and a super-beefy OL, we can tote the rock 40 times a game. I think that last year’s scheme wasn’t ideal, but was needed because we just struggled running inside.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yep, but I wouldn´t like to be one of those teams.

Actually I think we could become something like Pittsburgh if Henne steps up in 2010. Being a run oriented team but with a QB that can throw deep and that will get the ball enough times to make something happen

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well what do you usually have 65-70 offensive plays a game?

40 runs, 25-30 passes.. that works fine for me. Put up 3 TD’s, let the D go to work.

And I think a run-oriented offense plays right into Henne’s hands. PTR, PTR, PTR, Play Action deeeeep to Ginn, TD.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

$$ Concern?

The Phins already have a high priced OL without Brown. Long, Smiley, & Carey take care of that by themselves. With Brown, they will probably have the most expensive OL in the league. It seems like a lot of money to me with so many other needs on the team that need filling.

Pittsburgh got rid of their high priced OL and they seem to do OK last year. Smiley by himself acounted for more cap space than the entire superbowl starting OL for the Steelers. So did Long.

by ct1361 on Feb 25, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

$$ on the O Line

I have now problem with our o-line being high paid as long as they produce. A great o-line will make everyone on offense better (sustain longer drives, score more, give more time for the qb and receivers). It will also keep the defense fresh. We can draft a young, big and fast defense.

by gophish on Feb 25, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Better be Great!!

If the Phins get Brown, they better be great! Top 3 rushing with about 35 min / game in possession time. Because the OL will take up about 20% – 25% of the cap space.

I guess we would see if the best defense is a good run game!

by ct1361 on Feb 25, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

for a 2nd I´d trade Satele and his whole family but thats not gonna happen,

I prefer him to give us depth and even to play Guard if he proves to be better than Donald or if Smiley goes down again

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he's a solid interior depth guy

can play C, can play OG, and has starting experience. He’s the guy I want as a back-up because I think he can step in anywhere and the offense won’t struggle much.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would LOVE to see Brown in teal and white!!

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. The Center is the most important position on the field.

I don’t care if it makes us have the highest paid offensive line in the league, that just means we know where the money should be going :D

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I've been around for awhile,

just haven’t been as active as i once was. I’m getting back into the swing of things though :)

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

if we’re gonna have a ton of money tied up in one unit, I’d rather it be the OL than anywhere else.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AQUA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

m’ God……..sorry to be such a dick………..but our colors are AQUA AND CORAL!!! I get so pissed when ESPN and other media heads call the Dolphins “teal”…………..that would be like calling the US flag…..“Crimson, Eggshell, and Robinegg” uggggggghhhh…..

Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions

by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

soon to be black as well :-)

(I can push buttons too Husk lol)

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea..........but I have thicker skin..........

heh heh heh………

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but mine's tanner lol

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey..........

i’m so white……..i’ve got built in S.O.S signals………….. I’m kinda proud of that!

Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions

by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

k.......im done............sorry ratenxs.....

there have been others…………it wasn’t targeted at just you……….. : )

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pfft.

Target away. This is the intarwebs. :P

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been around for awhile,

just haven’t been as active as i once was. I’m getting back into the swing of things though :)

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I love that sig

I’m using it when I coach.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's probably my favorite football quote of all time.

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lombardi is a great guy to quote

I’d like to throw that one out there if I end up on the staff at my old high school.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

kind of a low blow to the Wildcat though LOL

haha from a wildcat hater perspective hahaha GIMICK .

fools

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

It’s a gimmick alright. The Shotgun? Gimmick. Flexing the TE? Gimmick. Passing? Gimmick. lol I loved how the entire media credited our whole season to a formation we used less than 20% of the time.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The forward pass was once considered a gimmick :)

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait

I see you said that now. GG me.

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

yeah..

hell, faking a handoff was a gimmick at one point lol

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and now that I think about it...

the Wildcat is closer to following that quote than anything else. All it is, is blocking. No handoff, no trickeration, just snap the ball to Ronnie and block lol

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah actually it makes sense, but who are we kidding,

that quote is talking exactly about these so called gimmicks lol

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol yup

blocking is a gimmick lol

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the way Sparano was talking about it.......

I don’t have actual quotes or a link……but basically “hey……we have something, the players and coaches like it…..we aren’t going to put this thing to bed just yet”

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh definitely

it’ll be in the playbook. I mean, why not? It’s not limited to a couple plays, it’s not some super-secret play that teams will stop just by knowing it’s coming… it’s a legitimate part of an offensive scheme, and I think it’ll be more effective as our offense gets better, because teams will have other things to focus on, like our base running game, and the improved passing game, and how to score on our lockdown D. Then when they forget about the Wildcat, BAM, 38-13 happens again.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

They all try to make the wildcat seem so complicated, but it’s actually even simpler then most of the other plays that coaches are drawing up these days.

Just line up mano-e-mano, and make your blocks, and the Wildcat will be effective.

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

because most of the “experts” don’t know their history, so they have no idea that was invented 100 years ago lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah that pissed me up pretty bad

it was just stupid of people to think that, more of so called “specialists”. People can trully find a way to be assholes.

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Paging Trent Dilfer

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

If I’m Trent, I text Ray Lewis everyday and thank him for my ring

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

really??

wow.. that’s not good.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah it sucks

and the worst part is that with a little common sense you can see that you dont turn into a monster eating cornflakes

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey put up a link.........

seriously? That just sucks………….

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

damn....

if true………makes you wonder about the whole USC thing……

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah completely

basically what I have heard from anonymous interviews from kind of second class players in those programs is that there is a dont ask dont tell policy

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This came up about a year ago.

Here’s a few links:
http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2007/01/brian_cushing_i.html
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=234334&start=0

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

here's a quote that blows the whole accusation out of the water
Cushing denies ever taking steroids. "We get drug tested every three weeks out here so it’s virtually impossible to take steroids [and get away with it].

if it’s true that they get tested every 3 weeks, then you can’t even get through a cycle without it turning up.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm calling B.S.

Cushing has been jacked since he was at Bergen Catholic (NJ high school).

by Matty I on Feb 25, 2009 1:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol no, not cornflakes

but 5 hours a day in a weight room and protein shakes will take a long way…

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but they dont turn you into a monster like some of this kids

specially, you can see it when their COMPLEXION changes. One thing is your muscles getting bigger but when your whole body changes and you turn into someone else thats steroids, like barry

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 25, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that's true

but there’s a lot of supplements and stuff that you can do to get HUGE without steroids. Medical science has come a loong way, and some of these guys are just gym rats who work out 5-6 hours a day.

and some of them do roids

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he's had his fair share of injury concerns

due to the depth of the draft due to durability concerns i say we focus on the other 20 qualified backers.

And draft rey :)

Laces out!

-2008 AFC East Champions-
Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.

[Creator of the Rey Maualuga Bandwagon...]

by BSerious72 on Feb 25, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

human nature.........

if its strange…….or against the grain……….they’re gonna bitch first……expect the worse, until it bites you in the ass and make it real.

As a Husker fan……….I’ve dealt with this tons…….mostly regarding the Option and how “It doesn’t work” …….after owning the 90’s …….those that talk out of their ass……have to eat the poo sandwich eventually…..lol

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Triple Option

I don’t care what new innovations come up in Football, the Triple Option works. Because it forces teams to play assignment defense and work as an 11 man unit instead of 11 individuals, which is becoming a lost art. If one guy misses an assignment, it’s a TD. I’m actually in the process of studying how it’s run, because I would definitely incorporate it into a high school scheme if I get to that level.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My Brother's team

Ran an offense they called the “Fling-T.” It uses the old Wing-T formation, but basically runs a triple option out of it on every play. We had one RB who would take it to the house if you missed a single tackle on him, one straight up power back that you couldn’t stop from getting at least 3 yards (usually more), and one who was somewhere in between that could hurt you with either power or speed. And it made our offense very, very, very dangerous.

The biggest thing is to coach the kids to not care only about themselves and to make sure that they are ALWAYS selling the fake well. Even if one player only does a half-ass job of faking it, the whole play can fall apart quickly.

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen the Fling-T before

the coach at my high school ran it before I got there, and it was sick. He ran it basically like a double wing, with 2 WR’s instead of TE’s, and ran the option to death. And then when teams stacked the box, he started chucking it around to the WR’s. It was nasty.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At one point about halfway through the season

Our QBs stat line was 9 completions on 9 passes for 9 TDs.

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sad thing is Nicky bud.......

with todays “NFL wannabee’s” recruits……….the option is probably dead in most major schools. The reason Nebraska could run it , was because we had the scholarships and the ability to recruit. Now with scholarship limits, total team numbers limits……its probably going the way of the dinosaur. To me it sucks. I mean, If you can run the option/running game with the right talent……..NO ONE can stop you. I use the Nebraska vs Florida Fiesta Bowl National Championship as my case and point. EVERYONE picked Florida to DESTROY Nebraska…….lol

If you have something that works, and the talent to do it………you are unstopable

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

I’ve run quite a few different offensive schemes in little league, and the bottom line is that if your scheme maximizes your talent, and you block, you can win. There is no universally perfect offense, and as long as it’s well designed, the scheme itself doesn’t matter, only the execution.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well said.

Execution. Execution. Execution.

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sniff........

I miss them days…… No one executed the Option like Nebraska in the 90’s …….it was a thing of beauty

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

the only thing that kills the option is defensive speed. If you have guys that can just run the play down, then the assignment mistakes are minimized. That’s what happened in 01. Nebraska’s option was NASTY, but UM just had so much speed on D, that even a well executed option play was run down for a small gain.. but there aren’t teams with enough speed like that very often.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no......in 01

we shouldn’t have been there……….Crouch was great…….but there was no way Nebraska should have been in a BCS game that year. That was a total mismatch…..you can’t gloat on that one

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

total team play and power over prance

happened in the ’95 Orange bowl…….

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Husker!

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by cbdolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not gloating

all I’m saying is that fast defenses can stop the option, and that game is a prime example.

don’t start making excuses for why you guys got demolished ;-)

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 2:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol.....

snot

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and the thing with the recruits is..

option running backs and option OL can go pro. Option QB’s usually don’t, but they also don’t go play QB for top tier programs anyway, or they end up like Pat White where they probably switch positions. It’s still a viable college offense, you just have to understand that you’re gonna get third-tier WR recruits and probably won’t get top talent at the QB position.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

its hard to recruit

period anyone in a option based offense these days…….especially with the limitations of scholarships and such……..

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by HuskerDolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this would be nice

and would probably run an end to the Alex Mack bandwagon lol

Laces out!

-2008 AFC East Champions-
Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.

[Creator of the Rey Maualuga Bandwagon...]

by BSerious72 on Feb 25, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I Love the sounds of this

Looks like I’m a little late on this subject but I will voice my opinion anyways.

I love this deal. It has been well documented the O-Line lacks depth espcially in the interior. With this move we would have a new starting C with two returning starting guards as well as moving our old starting center as depth at two spots.

This will allow us to have more options in the draft and really try and fix our defense … a parcells draft trait i might add

by markus_13 on Feb 25, 2009 1:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone find it funny?

That we are going to take Cam’s center away from him, when he’s the one who drafted us Samson Satele? Maybe he’ll take Samson back when we sign Jason Brown. Right back atchya homie!

by YatilGinnJr on Feb 25, 2009 1:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

maybe we can trade him to Cam Cam

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by cbdolphin on Feb 25, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

hmmm lets see… trade Samson Satele and get Jason Brown back + a draft pick? Sounds like a good deal to me.

by YatilGinnJr on Feb 25, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still like Satele though.

He could be a great guy to keep around as a backup C/G

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 25, 2009 1:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true

considering we spent a late 2nd rounder on him, I doubt we will get anywhere near that in return… so its probably a better value to keep him

by YatilGinnJr on Feb 25, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Get er Done

Then we can focus on our defense and a wide out in the draft,if we do sign Brown we must have to have the highest paid line in the NFL

Ahhhh Ta Ta Ta Ta Bye Bye Foy518

by Foy on Feb 25, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Im Lovin this news......

I remember when Parcells took over the Jets, His 2nd yr he signed FA Kevin MaWae to the largest contract for a center at that time. I could see history repeating itself come Friday. What an OL we would have, It would add two yrs to Ricky’s career and Ronnie would be dangerous coming into the 2nd yr after major surgery.

by jvw on Feb 25, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would

be madder than a midget with a yoyo if they re-sign him at 11:59 lol

Ahhhh Ta Ta Ta Ta Bye Bye Foy518

by Foy on Feb 25, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"madder than a midget with a yo-yo"

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on Feb 25, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I hate yo-yo’s… stupid things always hit the floor before I can pull em up…

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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 25, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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