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Dolphins interested in center Jason Brown

It's been known for a while that the Dolphins are looking to upgrade at the center position.  Samson Satele just doesn't have the size and strength to handle the larget nose tackles that he faces regularly - especially against divisional foes.

But now the Miami Herald is reporting something many Dolphin fans had hoped for.  The Dolphins are reportedly interested in signing Ravens' free agent center Jason Brown.  And Brown is apparently interested in playing in Miami.  Says the report:

After the 2007 draft, then-Dolphins general manager Randy Mueller spoke of second-round pick Samson Satele having Pro Bowl potential. But after a postseason analysis, this Dolphins administration has decided it must upgrade at center and has interest in signing Baltimore free agent Jason Brown, according to two people in contact with Miami's front office.

The Dolphins want a center bigger than Satele (295 pounds) and one who will create more of a push on running plays.

The Dolphins are happy with Justin Smiley and like the potential of Donald Thomas at the other guard position. But with both coming off injuries, the Dolphins are expected to add at least one quality guard through the draft, free agency or both. The Dolphins privately have discussed moving Satele to guard, but it's also possible he could be traded.

Brown, 25, has the size the Dolphins prefer (6-3, 320) and is well-regarded. Baltimore wants to keep him, but the Ravens have several key free agents and were not close to re-signing Brown as of Monday evening. Brown likes Miami and will consider an expected Dolphins offer, a friend said.

This is great news, for sure.  At just 25 years old, Brown is a player on the rise.  And he has a ton of experience - starting 44 games over the past 3 seasons, including all 32 regular season games the past 2 years.  He also blocked for the team that ran the ball more than any other team in the NFL in 2008 - and was very effective in doing so.

I specifically made it a point to watch Brown closely during the re-air of the Dolphins/Ravens playoff game on the NFL Network because it was known the Fins might look to upgrade at center.  And I was very impressed with both his run blocking and pass blocking.  But his ability to shove nose tackle Jason Ferguson off the ball really impressed me.

Brown also has experience playing guard as well.  And we know how much this regime values flexibility, especially along the offensive line.

Brown would be a major acquisition and, while he'll be pricey, wouldn't be as costly as other lineman simply because centers don't get paid as much.  Jeff Faine is the highest paid center in the NFL.  Faine signed a 6 year, $37.5 million deal last offseason with Tampa Bay.  Brown would probably cost a little less, perhaps a $34 million deal over 6 years.  Not cheap - but probably worth it.

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does this mean peppers is out?

he would demand at least as much as what Brown would get and probably more…

by winplease on Feb 17, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Dude

Peppers will command much more than Brown

by gophish on Feb 18, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I say we pay this man whatever he wants

imagine what this guy will do for ronnie and ricky, shoot he made laron mcclain a pro bowler runnin up the gut so give ronnie and ricky a little space and watch them run…also hes only 26 so imagine how much upside he still has, def. better than gettin peppers besides are two rookie d-ends are only going to get better to so well get pressure on the qb especially with are new beast cameron wake haha

by Cfrfootball39 on Feb 17, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

YES!

"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."

by Tunaflipper on Feb 18, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Im all for it

If we are to break the bank on a player I say it’s for this guy.25 years cant beat that,I hope we look at Scott and Atogwe too.

Ahhhh Ta Ta Ta Ta Bye Bye Foy518

by Foy on Feb 17, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

Go for it.

Brown is a very good center, and as far as I’m concerned the Center is the most important position on the field.

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 17, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

Think about it for a second.

If a center doesn’t snap the ball right, the doesn’t even happen.

Not to mention that on a lot of teams the Center is the field general for the Offensive Line, and if the O-line messes up, the QB gets killed.

Just look at what happened to the Colts this year when Jeff Saturday went down.

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 18, 2009 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

the play*

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 18, 2009 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

You forgot to mention that the reason a good center is most important

is for the initial push on run blocking and therefore allowing your running backs tu run up the middle. A good center would have given us 30-40+ yards per game rushing

by MauMontaV5 on Feb 18, 2009 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly :)

Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi

by ratenxs on Feb 18, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

It would be nice

to free up draft picks to be able to address other issues. I’d be nervous about making him the highest paid center in the league though.

 He was middle of the pack for sacks allowed (though he was protecting a rookie) with 2+. Also- while Baltimore had the #4 rushing offense by yards per game- that was mostly because they had by far the most carries per game (37). They averaged a rather pedestrian 4 ypc (sounds good but only ranks 21st in the league) though I’m sure having a bunch of giant, lumbering fullbacks play running back didn’t exactly help.

He does have good reasons for his rather minor shortfalls I guess, I just doubt he’d be willing to sign a ‘show me’ or incentive heavy deal just to be sure since he will be in such demand, so I’d be nervous.

If anybody can evaluate a great center its Sparano though, so if we actually go after him that’d probably be enough to convince me.

"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer

by GatorPhan on Feb 18, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Bawl'mer running up the middle

isn’t like the Phins mixing it up with various wildcat plays. Brown’s push on those plays is golden.

"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."

by Tunaflipper on Feb 18, 2009 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

Young and Cheap

Can be applied to a lot of things.

by gophish on Feb 18, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions  

This is great news.

out of all the possible free agents (including nomami assbougi!), Brown is the guy I’d most like to see us sign, and for the reasons you mentioned Matty. If you look at value as the net increase in team performance per dollar spent, I don’t see another player out there that would improve the team more. Of course I’d like to see an “Albert Haynesworth” at NT, or a “Demarcus Ware” as an added pass rusher, and adding a a stellar CB, FS, or WR would bring big benefits. But I believe that if we could run the ball inside, that would open up the passing game, make the WC more effective when we chose to run it, and take the pressure off the Defense, which is when the performed the best this past year. I think Brown would bring tremendous value for the FA price we would likely pay.
And I think it is likely that they will go after him, just like they did Smiley last year. It fits the Parcells template of 1) solidifying the lines first, and 2) don’t go crazy in FA.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 18, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

This would be a great pick up

it would give us more flexibility with our first rounder

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on Feb 18, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

I like it

and since my other “big name FA pickup” got tagged (Dansby), I would love to spend that money on Brown. He does quite a few things for us on the OL.
A) We would fill a hole on the OL with a big, young, hungry player.
B) We improve the depth of the interior line.
C) Moves Satele to OG, probably to back up Smiley (who’s finished each of the last 2 seasons on IR).

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 18, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

I like Brown, bring him on

"I have nothing to declare except my genuis."

-Oscar Wilde

by Neo on Feb 18, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

GREAT!!!!

Just sign him, Peppers, and Haynseworth, and fill the other holes through the draft, or maybe trade Satele to a team for a WR. With that said, i am going to log onto Madden 09 and make this dream a reality…LOL Hopefully we can upgrade a few positions, and get our players right from the jump like we did last year with Smiley.

Now is the time- the time to rise up from the depths of Hell and stake our claim back on top of the AFC East...Look out Gaytriots here comes Jake Long and the Phins

by FinzD54 on Feb 18, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

when you wake up, fill me in on how the rest of the dream turned out! :)

If we could sign all three of those guys AND still have money to sign our draft picks, I would be ecstatic!

I seriously doubt it though.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 18, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

DAMN!!!

My dream ended up with my wife yelling at me to take the trash outside…LOL Oh well, it’s always nice to dream, it’s just like thinking about all the amazing things you would buy if you won the lottery, meaning it will never happen

Now is the time- the time to rise up from the depths of Hell and stake our claim back on top of the AFC East...Look out Gaytriots here comes Jake Long and the Phins

by FinzD54 on Feb 18, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

I'm down

-I did what last night?
-no, i didnt!!!
-I DID?!?!
-SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!

-No excuses, No explanations

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 18, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

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