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Is the Wildcat dead (postponed indefinitely)?

I for one don't need to see Ricky trying to throw from the formation. Is there no longer the right personnel or need to run tbe Wildcat with the emergence of Chad Henne?

The purpose of this post is to explore how Wildcat principles and it's misdirection and unbalanced power might be used to run effectively out of a spread formation with Henne as QB.

What if Nate Garner could be a decent Right Tackle? He played that position in college and worked at that position in his first year in the league before moving to left guard due to injury. We have seen that Vernon Carey has struggled with speed rushers from the right side and probably should be moved inside to guard eventually where he would be a huge (literally) asset in the run game. What if Nate Garner (6-7 325) who is already the backup right tackle, could handle the position full time (with pass protection help from the running back).

My idea for discussion is this: How about move Vernon Carey to Left Guard right now? The left side of the line would not only be extremely expensive, but it would dominate. Put Justin Smiley at Right Guard with relief for his sore shoulder from Donald Thomas. If you pulled Smiley/Thomas left, there would be some serious ownage on the left side of the line. Obviously, teams would load up on the Fins' left to stop this ownage and that's where the misdirection comes in.

Introducing the Return of the Ricky as Wildcat Spread Formation:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ DB _ _ _ _ JL VC JB JS NG _ _ _ _ _ _GC _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

RW _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _PW

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ CH _ _LH

I would really like to see Kory Sheets in the Wildcat role with Ricky in the backfield taking the handoff over the left side, but the Trifecta must not like what they see in Sheets, or maybe they haven't contemplated this formation yet...

Pat White actually has a place in this formation, but if you don't want him on the field, just replace him with Brian Hartline.

You can run the Wildcat either left or right (Ricky motions right, PW/BH would motion left).

You get your power up the middle against a spread out defense with your back in the backfield who also helps Garner with pass protection on the right side.

If the defense loads up to stop the run, you can pass short to your speedsters (RW/PW/BH) and then let them run, or send your speedsters deep and have DB or GC settle down in the cleared out zone.

Note that after Wildcat motion, you have one receiver (either DB or GC) isolated on one side and the other side of the field flooded with three receivers.

It's not the Wildcat, but it would bring the excitement of the Wildcat misdirection into the spread formation and make running the ball a dangerous option versus just a handoff to a back from the shotgun.

Thoughts anyone?

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but the wildcat is stuffed if there is no legitimate threat to throw.

Hence provides that threat and still can handoff to Lex Hillard going left or let Ricky run right
ditto Kory Sheets running right with Ricky or Lousaka running left behind Long, Carey, and Smiley

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by DolphDallas on Dec 8, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats the point that most people don't get

While a big factor in it is having an extra blocker, the reason that it is effective is that you need to have 2 legitimate (more specificall pro-bowl caliber) rushing threats, one of which receiving the snap directly and the other in position to get the handoff almost immedietly after the snap for the misdirection.

by kozam9707 on Dec 8, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Two TE slot look

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ AF _ _ _ _ JL VC JB JS NG _ _ _ _ _ _KSp _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

KSh _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _PW

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ CH _ _RW

Note: Joey Haynos would need to be inactive to bring in Kory Sheets. I think it is worth a try…

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by DolphDallas on Dec 9, 2009 5:22 AM EST reply actions  

Third and short or Fourth and Short Lousaka Monster version

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ DB _ _ _ _ JL VC JB JS NG _ _ _ _ _ _GC _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

RW _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _BH

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ CH _ _LP

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by DolphDallas on Dec 9, 2009 5:25 AM EST reply actions  

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by The Phinisher on Dec 9, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

For the wildcat to work to perfection, your gonna have to have an extra man on the line

the dolphins used nate garner earlier in the season as a blocking tight end, and have at times been using both Fasano, and Haynos. In last years version, the Phins had cp10, ronnie,ricky, their 5 lineman, camarillo, cobbs, and fasano in the formation. They’re always needs to be a tight end in the formation for blocking purposes.

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by dolphin341 on Dec 9, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

Just like a real offence

i do like the wildcat but i am glad to see us use an actual offence. i think donovan mcnabb was right when he said it takes away from the qb’s rhythm. although maybe you all are right and it does not work that well without ronnie. either way they go about it i am just glad they won. and you gotta love our qb’s arm, gives me goose bumps

by kevyfranchise on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

It's not the Wildcat,

but I think I understand what you are trying to say… why not put Ricky in motion with Henne at QB more often?

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by joel311 on Dec 10, 2009 3:34 AM EST reply actions  

Exactly!

I’m not trying to save an extinct Wildcat Formation.
I’m just trying to suggest an enhancement to a spread formation with a powerful ground game option.

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by DolphDallas on Dec 10, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not Thigpen?

       You guys help me out. Why haven’t they tried Tyler Thigpen run the wildcat. He’s had nine weeks to learn it. Last year he ran for almost 400 yards, averaged over 6 yards per carry. He also had 18 TD passes and, oh by the way, caught a 37 yard TD pass. We all know about his athletic ability. Don’t you think having him take the snap it would give opposing defenses preparing for us, fits?

by dolfanfromcali on Dec 10, 2009 8:37 AM EST reply actions  

I also would like to see Thigpen, but since it appears that Pat White would make a very poor injury replacement

to Chad Henne, they don’t want to risk Thigpen getting injured and the whole season goes down the drain if Henne were to get hurt also.
I feel like they can risk White to injury. Not so with Thigpen.
Maybe they could try it IF the Fins make the playoffs. Now that would be a wrinkle worth doing…

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by DolphDallas on Dec 10, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats a very good point. My thinking was that I’ve seen Thigpen inactive a few games. I figured that meant that he wasn’t really in the Dolphins plans in the immediate future but when Ronnie went down, those plans might change. But I totally agree that risking injury to him could potentially spell disaster if Henne were to also go down

by dolfanfromcali on Dec 10, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

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