Ted Ginn Jr?

That doesn’t make him a bad person. Truth is, he’s got a great shot at the Pro Bowl with a couple more big returns.

He’s a total Jet killer but not much else. Yes, Chad Henne throws gas and needs to learn to tone it down a bit. The problem is that Bess, Fasano and Williams have made the adjustments and Teddy’s nowhere to be found. Where’s Teddy?

Ginn couldnt hold onto the ball b4 Henne was around either. Yes he didnt do horrible last season when he was being thrown jelly rolls by CP10 (Dont get me wrong here CP10 is a god among men here in Miami) but its a simple fact.. catching a lob fro CP10 is not the normal catch in the NFL and I would say 85% of the QB’s in the NFL have throw closer to Henne’s then CP10’s. Pretty much anyone could catch some of the lobs CP10 lays in there.. Henne THROWS the ball harder which is not a bad thing as he can make throws CP10 cannot force in there. Ginn just cannot catch them. He cannot catch anything faster then lob its a fact. GINN SUCKS get over it.

I never meant to imply that we don’t need another WR we definetly do a young qb should have a stud reciever to help him. I’m really just saying that he should stay in miami even though most people want his head, mostly because it wouldn’t be worth it to let him go he only has 2 years left anyway and the bonuses and etc.

Right now we couldn’t trade him for anything because of all the bad rep. Chad Henne is a 2nd year qb they could grow together and become a marino/duper combo (in my dreams) but at least get more chemistry.

 I think he could become better, i’m sure he could regain his confidence on how to catch especially if there is another reciever to take the pressure off of him. He doesn’t suck because suck implies that he’s mark sanchez and can’t get better he’s playing badly right now. I’m not gonna try to argue that he’s not weak emotionally his confidence is definetly his biggest problem i mean you have to admit that Ginn can have a great game probably not going to be worth his draft pick but i think he should definetly stay here at least until his contract expires we should definetly see what happens.

Ginn hurts Henne.

In that Ginn was in a groove with Penne and when Chad2.0 came in he lost his groove. I hadn’t thought of it that way. Chad H is nowhere near what CP10 was, not surprisingly. Pennington was, after all, awesome, and second in the MVP race last hear. When one of Farve, Manning or Brees will be second this year you can see how amazing that is.
 
HOWEVER

The man is paid to play receiver. Part of his job is reacting to a new QB. And, you know, not dropping all of the most important passes that come his way.

I like Ted Ginn, and he’s a great weapon as a returner. But he’s shown he’s a poor to mediocre receiver.

explains his “fear of being on the football field” ….

the alligator arms he exhibits (leading to his drops), but the fact that even on returns, Teddy’s main goal is to get to the sidelines as fast as possible….

yeah – I use to be an appologist for teddy, but not anymore… he’s a complete waste of talent because he has no desire.

I’ll leave that alone. Young Ted must finish strong this year or he’ll fade away into Dolphin oblivion.

a Dante Hall. Even in his receiving prime, he was never a great receiver. Didn’t run the best routes, didn’t have the greatest hands, and didn’t put up the best numbers whatsoever. He was undersized, and did not have the “IT” a receiver needs. Lacked the “receiver swagger” necessary as well.

But he was one of the best, if not THE best, kick returner in the league for a string of years. He made Pro Bowls as far as I remember. Regardless of when he was drafted or how he was acquired, he made plays and was an extremely valuable player when he had the ball in his hands on special teams.

The fact is, plain and simple, that we expect Ginn to be a dominant receiver because of his draft status. Once again, that’s not his fault. He should have been drafted at the end of the first or beginning of the second (not in hindsight) and likely would have if we didn’t have an idiot selecting our players. That’s still bad value for an NFL wide receiver when we need a play-maker and not a play-misser, but too many teams in the NFL need the type of special teamer that Ginn is. Yes, we put up a first round (high one at that) pick for him, but in the end, we have a potential perennial Pro Bowl kick returner and that’s all that matters at this point.

Look how much value Joshua Cribbs was looking to fetch before the trade deadline for Cleveland..tell me that type of electric spark plug on kickoffs isn’t worth something close to a first round pick. Mangini wouldn’t agree. Kokinis (at the time) wouldn’t either.

than to see him come out today and have a monster game. he has a ton of potential, i wish he would live up to it. that kind of speed doesn’t come along everyday. ginn is a dolphin, and i’ll pull for him every play until he isn’t. it’s just getting to the point where you have to wonder if he’s taking up a roster spot that could go to someone who would help us more. if he doesn’t finish with a few good games, it wouldn’t be a huge surprise if he wasn’t here next year. i hope every week that he’ll play a whole game the way he COULD, not the way he DOES.

Just look at the differences between Steve Smith and Eli Manning, and Manningham and Eli. The difference is one year of working together and developing chemistry. Ginn was solid last year and looked to be improving every year. I remember that Ginn was scared last year, but would go over the middle occasionally and catch a pass beforegetting creamed. Ginn also hasn’t been in as much as late, for reasons we all know, but another offseason with Henne will do him good.

another year(preseason) with Henne for giving up on him. If you could (Ginn + a pick) do a trade for a legit #1(not AFC East), then i would do it. He just needs some sideline bumpers(like bowling) so he dosnt run out of bounds after 9 yards. He’s got to catch those balls that are critical to winning games, like Camarillo and Bess seem to do, most of the time anyways.

that I had in CP10. He is a 3rd/4th down machine. There is a reason why we are one of the best teams in the league when it comes to converting 3rd down and his name is CP7. You can see a lot of Pennington in Henne if you care to look close enough.

ok, not the ONLY thing, but consider this: Pennington, although a great leader, threw a ball so soft my grandmother could catch it. Henne, has a cannon for an arm. Now, not only is Ginn afraid of getting hit by defenders, he’s also afraid of getting hit by the ball.

It was a HUGE reach to draft Ginn where he was drafted. He went about 2 rounds sooner than he should have. Now that’s not his fault, that’s completely on CamMoron and Mueller, but, he hasn’t lived up to being a 3d rounder either.

We should cut our losses and not waste another minute on this loser.

“ok, so who’s gonna cover the fast guy that cant catch?”

“ummm, how about the ball boy?”

“we can’t, we’d have to put him on the 53 man roaster”

“dam, we really need to game plan now”

and so should Teddy since he’d be running TO the sidline,

Guaranteed Pennington wouldn’t have won that.