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Dolphins vs Patriots: Five Good Questions

As we've talked about all week, the Dolphins face quite the challenge on Sunday when they welcome the Patriots to Land Shark Stadium. So to talk about the Pats and the game on Sunday, let's welcome in "MaPatsFan" from Pats Pulpit. His responses to my questions are below. Be sure to head over to his blog to see my responses to his questions at some point on Friday.

Matty I: We all saw that game on Monday night. But the one thing that stuck out to me isn't how poorly New England's defense performed. It's how effective the Saints were at containing Wes Welker and Randy Moss. What were the Saints doing to hold them to a combined 99 yards receiving?

MaPatsFan: You noticed that too, huh? ;-) There's a few reasons, but let me start with pressure. There were only 2 sacks for 12 yards, but sacks alone aren't a good indication of pressure. Our offensive line has been dinged up of late and this past Monday we witnessed a serious gashing of the 300 pounders by a defense that wasn't supposed to do that. They were pressuring Brady with only 3 and 4 men; that's a serious knock on Matt Light and crew.

But the most important reason for limiting Wes Welker and Randy Moss had to do with the officiating crew. This crew has been known to "let the players play", to not call a whole lot of penalties. In fact, there was only 4 for 36 yards called against the Saints and none for New England. The "light" penalty calling resulted in our receivers getting banged up off the line, throwing timing off. Actually, banged up is kind - they were abused. No harm no foul if that's the way it was going to be called. I just wish Belichick would've returned the favor.

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Matty I: It's to that point in the season where I begin to ask fellow bloggers about how their team's rookies are progressing. So I'll do the same here. In particular, how have Darius Butler and Ron Brace been coming along?

MaPatsFan: Darius Butler is coming along, but at a snail's pace, in my opinion. It could be that he's buried behind a fairly well stocked cornerback stable or he's just not giving Belichick a reason to put him in. Ron Brace is a slight disappointment; drafted 9th in the 2nd round, he's been losing snaps to fellow rookie, Myron Pryor who was drafted 9th in the 6th round.

The biggest surprises of all, however, have been Sebastian Vollmer and Julian Edelman. Vollmer filled in for Matt Light for some games (including Indy) and did an incredible job. In fact, some were calling for Light to move to right tackle and Vollmer to be installed as the starting left tackle. I don't see that happening this season, but Vollmer's excellent showing will give Light something to think about come contract time. Julian Edelman, a college quarterback, has done an incredible job at wide receiver, so well that he's been nicknamed "Welker Jr." (Edelman is about the same size and is mostly in the slot).

Matty I: Even though the Patriots are sitting at "just 7-4" - and I say that because of how good the Pats have been over the past several seasons - their remaining schedule isn't exactly difficult and I'm willing to bet the house that this team makes the playoffs. So with that said, what aspect of the team worries you the most as you prepare to head into the crapshoot that is the NFL Playoffs?

MaPatsFan: Well, if I had to pick one area that worries me the most it would be the lack of a consistent pass rush. Adalius Thomas was supposed to be a good weapon for us, but he hasn't performed like we'd hoped. Derrick Burgess, pulled in specifically to perform that duty, has been a bust for all intents and purposes.

I would also add the lack of depth at wide receiver. Once defenses figure out how to contain Moss and Welker, we simply don't have that many weapons; if you look at the Saints, Brees' 5 TD passes were to 5 different players. That's depth.

Another area of concern is Tom Brady's lack of consistency against quality teams. He's struggled against the likes of Indy and NO. This leads me to believe that he's really not "back" and still has a way to go.

Matty I: In their first meeting, the Patriots did an excellent job to contain Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. But Chad Henne was surprisingly effective because of all the attention being paid to the running backs. Do you expect a similar game plan this week even with Miami being without Ronnie or do you think New England's defense will not sell out as much against the run?

MaPatsFan: At #3 in yards per game, teams have to respect Miami's run game, no question. That may have dulled a bit without Brown, but Williams is still a threat that needs to be dealt with. That being said, I'm not sure I'd call 19/34 and 219 yards surprisingly effective unless you were expecting a lot less. Would I like that contained a bit more? Sure, but I didn't see any long bombs in that game (longest was a 23 yarder to Camarillo) so I'm not sure it's a part of the game Belichick will be too worried about.

Matty I: When all is said and done on Sunday in Miami, what will the final score be and why?

MaPatsFan: Believe it or not, I think this will be fairly close. It's hard to factor out the home field advantage, so I'm thinking 28-21, Patriots. Brady, throwing to Moss and Welker, is 3-0 (2007: 2-0, 2009: 1-0), so I'm inclined to think he's fairly successful against Miami.

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agreed with most of MPF's points on the pats this year...

but iunno about brady struggling against indi. i mean if 375 yrds 70% 3 td’s to 1 int meant struggling, then i’m pretty sure most QB’s would have loved to struggle against indi like that. That game was another sign of Pat’s inability to play consistent 2nd half football and defensive breakdown again..

by lololol on Dec 4, 2009 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

I just want to state that I saw

The Saints double Randy and that every time Welker caught a ball the Saints would have a safety come down to hit him so there was no yac.

by inyourface6336 on Dec 4, 2009 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Light Penalty Calling a Problem for NE?

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA to hear that officiating may have hurt their chances at winning at NO is just hilarious.

every year it seems there is a new rule instituted just to stop the BLATENT CHEATING that the NE patriots use to win their many championships. its not skill or coaching but CHEATING.

the organization has less than 0 class and BELICHEAT will gladly pay $500k a season for his BLATENT CHEATING because it wins football games.

light penalty calling won it for NO what a turnaround in events! for a NE member to complain about officiating just shows how detached the entire NE organization and fanbase has become about the integrity of the GAME of football. they should all be ashamed.

by labrat3105 on Dec 4, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

You serious?

We’ve had phantom PI calls against the Colts which let them back into the game.
Welker was held on a sure TD catch and there was no flag. It was obvious.

Now I’m not saying that the Saints game penalty would have changed anything, but it would have made the game a lot more manageable. The Colts penalty, however, shifted the momentum.

by Richard Hill on Dec 4, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, you need to get over it!!

Where are you stuck? In a time warp or something? Everybody who isn’t a Pats fan says that they cheated. That’s because you have no argument! Your drawn out laugh is the joke here. If you read, or comprehend what was said, was that light penalty calling was the reason for the ineffectiveness of Welker and Moss. Not the reason they lost. I bet you didn’t even pay attention to the game or even watch it. If you are going to comment on other teams, rather than your own, please have some comments with intelligence and knowledge included. Oh yea!! did I say “get over it”?

Those of you who think you know everything just annoy those of us who do!!

by Sully F on Dec 4, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

You seriously gaffed on what was said

I’m not blaming the officials, merely stating if that’s the way the game was going to be called, we should’ve done the same and bumped their receivers more. And the whole cheating thing? That was 2 1/2 years ago. Methinks YOU have to get over it.

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by MaPatsFan on Dec 4, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, I think he was trying to reply to labrat's comment, not to you.

At least, that’s the way I interpreted what he said. I understood what you meant in your answer.

But I do agree with that people just need to get over the whole spygate thing. It’s over, it’s done, move along.

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by Chupathingy on Dec 4, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair point

Thanks for clearing that up

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by MaPatsFan on Dec 4, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

What I see in NE lately that plays in our favor is:

- a very vulnerable defense, especially against the pass
- extremely poor play on the road (their sole road win is vs. tampa, that’s it)

Combine those two factors this coming weekend in miami and we could put definitely get ourselves a win. Sure BB & TB have a great record after a loss, but this year the trend for them is lousy road play and I’ll give more consideration to what’s happening with this particular Pats team, and not those of years past.

 The key might be, along with other factors, just how many points we can put up.

Much as I’d like to think we can stifle their offense in the same way the saints did, I don’t know that we can hold them to 17. So we best score some points if we are going to get this game. That probably means Chad Henne is going to have to play well, our receivers will have to make some plays (shudder!), and Ricky/Lex have to get the ground game going.

by Natalya on Dec 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

On the road

Yeah, our road record is pitiful, to say the least, and the defensive backfield has a long way to go.

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by MaPatsFan on Dec 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

How about you give props to the Saints D instead of blaming the refs?

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by Patssuck456 on Dec 4, 2009 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

x's 2

Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!

by MainePhinFan on Dec 4, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Read above, not blaming the refs

I think the Pats should’ve responded in kind and bumped Saints receivers a bit more.

Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on Dec 4, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

OK sorry for the misunderstanding

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by Patssuck456 on Dec 4, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It's like I used to tell my soccer kids

There’s the rules, and then there’s what the refs call. Those are two different things. If the refs are allowing holds and contact past five yards, then that becomes the rule for that game. As long as they call it the same for both it’s fair.

New Orleans was doing it, the Pats weren’t, but they should have since they were allowing it. Not upset with the refs so much as upset with the defense for not taking advantage of the loose calling.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 4, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

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by el presidente 00 on Dec 4, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all!! Props to the Saints O and boos to the Patriots D. Incidentally, I don’t blame the Ref’s. I blame BB for changing his game plan and panicking every time NO scored. The Pats moved the ball, the running game was working but whoever called the offensive plays tried to match Brees, bomb for bomb. Big mistake.

Those of you who think you know everything just annoy those of us who do!!

by Sully F on Dec 4, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

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by MaPatsFan on Dec 4, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey MPF! Just wanted to ask you what you think of our rookies?

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by Kdog92 on Dec 4, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

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