"You gotta believe."
by Matty I on Dec 22, 2009 12:15 AM EST
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PrintI know that we're all still angry/disappointed from the tough loss on Sunday. The Dolphins showed amazing character and mental toughness to battle back from their 18 point second half deficit and force overtime. and it was heart-breaking to see the Dolphins lose a game in which they almost seemed destined to win heading into overtime. Making thins even worse was seeing Denver fall to Oakland later on in the afternoon - meaning the Dolphins would have been in the driver's seat for a wildcard spot had they pulled off the win in Tennessee.
But they didn't get it done. What was even more disgusting was seeing how some Dolphin fans were reacting - both during and after the loss. We had "fans" giving up on the game in the second quarter - saying that they were "embarrassed" by their team's performance. Well, what's embarrassing is how some of these "fans" acted.
After the game, I've had to listen to "fans" say that they hope to see the Dolphins lose both of their remaining games to improve their draft status. Really? Now that is embarrassing.
Well enough is enough. It's time to pull a "Jim Fassel" on everyone. And I'm going to use his own words to make my declaration:
"If this is a poker game, I am shoving my chips right in the middle of the table. I am raising the ante. Anybody who wants out, can get out. This team is going to the playoffs. OK? This team is going to the playoffs."
Yes - you read that right. These Miami Dolphins - the same players many "fans" gave up on before halftime on Sunday - are going to the playoffs.
Am I crazy? Maybe. Disillusioned? Possibly. But I'm just sick and tired of the bandwagon going from crowded to empty and back to crowded again. It's time to make a choice, folks.
Following Miami's win over the Patriots a couple of weeks back, Tony Sparano told his team in the locker room that "you gotta believe."
Well I believe, Tony. And I'm willing to bet that the players in that locker room still believe. The fact that some fans just don't want to believe is embarrassing.
Let's look at some of what we know has to happen for the Dolphins to pull this off. Can the Steelers defeat the Ravens at home in Pittsburgh? Certainly. Can the Patriots knock off the Jaguars at home in Foxborough? Certainly. And this is just one potential situation that could unfold.
The most important thing, of course, is for the Dolphins to take care of their own business. The Texans and the Steelers - the two teams that stand in Miami's way. Is it going to be easy? Of course not. It might not even be "likely" - depending on how you define the term. After all, the Dolphins have never beaten the Texans in four attempts. And the Dolphins haven't beaten the Steelers since 1998, having lose all three times they've met since then. It's also easy to forget that these Steelers are the defending champions.
So no - it's not going to be easy. But, as Tony Sparano said, this team still "has a pulse." And he's told his team that:
"My message to the team this week is the way I know it we're still in this race. The best chance we have is we've got to win two football games. We've won two football games a couple of times before, so we'll worry about one football game right now. We have a chance to play at home. We still have a pulse. We're still in this race, and we'll prepare that way. This team will prepare that way."
Think back to just a few weeks ago. The Dolphins lost a brutal game to the lowly Buffalo Bills, dropping the Dolphins to 5-6 on the year. Remember how quickly the bandwagon emptied after that game? But all of those "fans" were quick to jump back on after this team showed that team-defining resiliency and knocked off the Patriots in Miami and the Jaguars in Jacksonville in back-to-back weeks. If the Dolphins could do that, then why the hell can't they knock off two .500 teams at home in back-to-back games?
Like I said, now is the time. I've moved my chips "all-in." So what are you going to do? Are you in or are you out?
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I'm with ya!
that comeback yesterday was amazing. I would be with you 100% if we weren’t cursed by the Houston Texans though :(
AMEN!! Always Believe!!! It seems like our team reminds me of....
the saints in how they had a good year but then things bounced the wrong way for them for a couple years but then WAM, they are at the top of their division. It seems like this teams character is set for years to come and this year we really got shafted by our schedule and by the referees almost every week. Once we add a couple more pieces to the puzzle, I look forward to talking about if the dolphins will beat the ’72 record :)
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Dec 22, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'm all in...
This is the year that we end that curse, should have been last year had Shabby not ran in that BS TD with no time left. I feel there’s no team tougher than these Miami Dolphins,and i can bet no one wants to see us across from them in a playoff game,because no matter how much more talented the other teams are than us, no team will ever out fight us.
Heh
I’d better be getting that Dolphins jacket I asked for this christmas, for its getting sported here on out.
Curse or not. Lets dehorn some texans.
I was already in....
but after reading that I’m ready to go to war with you and these fins Matty!!!!!
finally, thank you someone said it
if one more person says anything to me about draft position there is a decent chance I will hit them in the face on the spot. Doesn’t anyone have hope anymore. We can still do this and always believe we will. On dec. 4th 2005, I stayed in the stands to watch Sage Rosenfels off the bench come back from 20 points down to beat the Bills with 6 seconds to go next to almost no fans. I am tired of the bandwagon, so please get on and stay on or go and find another team. The dolphins, these dolphins, are resilient as hell and can do this. we got two games left, so why shouldn’t we as fans support our team like we did at the beginning?
start clemons over gibril
sign ronnie to a long term deal
the lousaka monster should be a pro bowler
"We liked a couple of those receivers up there, but we didn't feel there was a guy that was going to come in and make more of a contribution than a linebacker." — Dave Wannstedt, on why he chose Eddie Moore over Anquan Boldin in the 2003 draft
by ronnie brown for president on Dec 22, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply actions
We're no Bandwagon.
So get the fuck off. I’ve been a fan for 18 years of my life, dating into kindergarten. I’m with the Phins all day, every day.
Just Win Baby !!!
We’ve been in every game so far this season – If the Bucs, Faiders and the Panthers can pull off the Big Upsets then we can WIN OUT !!! HELL YEAH I’M IN ALL THE WAY !!!
GO DOLPHINS !! RUN RICKY RUN !! and, THE TEXANS CAN SUCK MAH ORANGE & AQUA BALLS !!
Lets Kick Butt Dolphins!!
The reality is that this is a 7-7 team
that is starting a first year Qb and two rookie Cbs. Thus, lots of mistakes and bad plays have happened and will likely keep happening. While they have been exceptional at times, specially Henne, this is still too young a team to be carrying the burden of making the playoffs for two consecutive years, while being in a rebuilding process. Sure, nobody is saying Henne shouldn’t have had the responsibility of going to Tennessee and getting the win to keep the hopes alive, but Im not completely sure a first year Qb, with an all off a sudden non existent running game, should be thrown out there being expected to take this young and limited offense to the playoffs instead of just letting the guy develop properly. The way this is going you are risking Henne taking a major emotional hit that could very well affect him going into next year. Cause I’ll tell you what, this time everybody stood by him after the terrible OT interception, but if there is a next time this couple of weeks, with the playoffs on the line, im not sure the veterans will stay quiet. So making the playoffs should be a nice reward for a tough team and a tough season, but I would much rather see our Franchise Qb develop nicely and see the results for the next decade.
As for calling out fans, I remember Neo saying a couple of months ago that a fan is not someone who just goes out and blindly cheers, but a person with a strong and honest opinion towards the team.
by MauMontaV5 on Dec 22, 2009 12:36 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't say he's "expected" to get us to the playoffs
but I believe that he can. I seriously doubt that the veterans speak out against Henne after what he’s done for this team already this year. He’s the franchise QB, and there won’t be any backlash against him if he throws a couple picks in the next 2 games, at least not from the locker room.
And I agree with Matty calling out some of the fans. The game thread was a little sickening at 24-3, with people calling for 3/4 of the team to be benched, calling the season over at halftime, talking about how the Dolphins don’t “deserve the playoffs” after losing that one in OT (following a thrilling comeback, no less). We can all be realistic and say we probably aren’t going to the playoffs. But, as long as we are in the race, and as long as the teams we need to help us have been just as inconsistent as we have, I don’t believe that we can just resign ourselves to missing the playoffs in week 15, and start talking about tanking games to improve draft position and all that noise. Just feel like some of the overreacting and “we suck” comments reek of something a Jets fan would say, and it bugs me for people to act like 2 spots in the draft is more important than playing well or winning the game, especially when playoff spots, the ultimate “any given sunday” situation, are still out there to be taken.
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I got dibs
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 22, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Well said Nicky, Drafts spots are Drafts spots. We can easily move up if we choose too go after a certain person. So you want to lose to get those extra spots is bogus.
My 6 year old daughter and I with my 9 month on my lap were cheering as if we were at the game. I taught the little guy how to high five on those last two drives. It was awesome. You can never give up on this team because where they lack in talent they make it up in heart 10 fold and with that any thing can happen. You can’t teach that, you have to have it in you. I BELIEVE!!!!!
by D0lphins4Life on Dec 22, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Oh you know it drove me up a wall
If I was in the same room as some of the people in the game thread — I may have started throwing punches
Nice post Matty
I agree a hundred percent
Leader of the "Draft Arrelious Benn in '10" bandwagon
Please, call me Bacon (and no that's not a quote, believe it or not it's my last name....and no, as much I wish, Im sadly not related to the Kevin)
I am with Mau
to a point. I am one fane, a 41 yr fan that never jumped to the steelers, cowboys, raiders when they were winning SBs from mid-70s through the 90’s. I almost feel called out by you matty since I was one of the 2 that said IF the broncos and ravens win I would root for draft position. I am rooting for a dolphin win this week because there is still a halfway decent playoff possability to get Henne playoff experience but lose sunday and I hope they lose to Pitt why? Take a look at the last 5 drafts and tell me what 5 spots in the draft order gets you in each of the 7 rounds. I am here not only this year but the next 30 too. If a jet fan or steeler fan nribs me for having a better record and I get a McClain over a Hughes I am all smiles. If the team isnt going to go to playoffs with a semi-chance to win it all I would rather have a 14 pick in every round over a 25 because I love my phins and want to avoid another decade of losing as we have for most of this one. Call me a bandwagoner if you wish
3 new 2010 starting LBers via 2010 draft
Confidence breeds success, self-doubt breeds failure
Odd way to think IMO ....
The first thing Tony Sparano said when he came to the Dolphins is that he has to change the culture of the team … I guess that relates to some fans too. I don’t agree with the way you think one bit, the Detroit Lions have been picking in the bottom half every season and what do they have to show for it??? At the same time the Patriots and Steelers have been at the top of each round, I think the Trifecta will be just fine w.e. they pick.
IMO you play for each season to win as many games as possible or as Herm Edwards said “you play to win the game” lol and let the chips land where they may when the draft comes. Didn’t the Cardinals make the playoffs as a 9-7 team last year? not saying this is what will happen but quiting on a season ins’t good, we have played all the best teams in the league this season very close and who knows what will happen if we get another shot at some of these guys, I for one would like to see it. We have a chance at the playoffs still, we are going to play to important games at home and as a fan that is what you should always be rooting for.
Well said Markus!
I was just telling my wife last week, if we can get in the dance, we’re gonna go deep. Win the first game, then we’d play the Colts. Sparano and company would fix the mistakes we made against them in September and we’d beat those guys! I’m all in, I always am! My wife was laughing at me sunday when I told her we still had time to tie the game up and send it to overtime! She said I am always the optimist, we could be down 3 touchdowns at the 2 minute warning and I still think we have a shot to win!
imo you play to win every game. period
no if and or buts about it. you NEVER lose a game for draft position or any other reason. don shula built a dynasty one game at a time. sparano is doing the same thing. every win does this team good, and every loss hurts. if you hope to lose, you cultivate a losing mentality. the main thing that we’re trying to get rid of.
Good post
Can’t stand the bandwagoners. I’m surrounded by raiders/49ers/rams fans here in california, chargers fans are starting to creep up. I still sport my dolphins hat that I got 10 years ago, even after a loss. Been a fan for 18 years or so. Struggled through the 1-15 season (especialy with the loss to the raiders). When we make it to the playoffs, if we play a team out west (like san diego) i’ll be at the game with my jersey on getting yelled at by drunk charger fans.
Call me what you will......
But, I know this,…….I’ve relocated my happy ass to Florida so I could go to more Dolphin games. In doing that Ive spent an ass-load of money on travel, hotel rooms, tickets, and merchandise. Before that, while living in Ohio, I did the same but on a smaller level. So, if I know one thing,…….it’s that I’m a huge Dolphin fan, win or lose. Fact is, I can’t wait til this weekend to make the roadtrip back to South Florida for the Texans game !!!!!
Sugar cone with Chocolate ice cream on the bottom & Orange sherbet on the top !!!!!!! NOW !!!!!!!!!!!
by Ohiofinfan4life on Dec 22, 2009 1:05 AM EST reply actions
I won't ever count these guys out.
Not after last season, not after last week. Sparano’s got something special going on here, and I’m already looking forward to the next game, because the only thing we can do is win and hope, but most importantly, win.
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I got dibs
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 22, 2009 1:23 AM EST reply actions
You're right.
I don’t. Hiave. Spayides.
Acees fool, Tony.
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Well said Matty!
I applaud your efforts! I get disgusted by some of the more cynical “fans” who only talk about the negatives of the season even though they are far outweighed by the positives. To those people I say “Here’s your stop, please exit quietly.”
Driver of the Make David Lee OC Bandwagon
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I'm always all in!!!
I don’t care if we never win another game until I die (God forbid) I will never jump off the Miami Dolphins bandwagon!!!
GEtSICK 4 JC
I believe!!!!
Hey, this team was 0-3 When Chad Henne took over and started winning. Its too bad we don’t have a free safety. If we even had Renaldo Hill we would be at least 2 wins better. Another thing, we never have to worry about draft position with the front office that we have. I’m sure they’ll find some nice gems in the later rounds anyway. Dolfans have become whiners over the past few years for various reasons, so we’ll have to deal with it.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
Well Said !!!
I really like this post and to be honest am very happy to see this. We have such an important game coming up against Houston this weekend and we don’t need to be down on the team or throwing in the towel. I am a diehard fan and have never been happier than I have over these past two season seeing the way this team has played under Coach Sparano … they are tough team that just never gives up and you have to love the character of this squad, wanting them to loss would be a disservice to the players who work so hard.
Question? Did anyone else see Wilbon on PTI picking the Dolphins to make the playoffs? if he who isn’t a fan likes this team that much, why can’t you?
great post..
Like I said on Sunday. Your the best writer on SB nation.
"It didn't take the wildcat to beat the patriots... Just a wolverine."
It's easy to be negative but harder to stay optomistic
were not the 1-15 team anymore. We are still very much alive and still have a slight chance to make the playoffs and reach the ultimate goal which is the super bowl. Are we heavily favored HELL NO but that is why we play to win the game! Any given Sunday magic can happen. Even if we lose to houston by 40 for us to sit at home and totally not show up against the defending super bowl champs at our FINAL HOME game is absurd. That is not the type of team we are anymore. What should we do, give up? And for what… possibly 3 draft spots? Like drafting 18th instead of 21st is gonna make us THAT MUCH BETTER. Simply put, we are not that team anymore where we should look past our season (which is all we could wait for every offseason) towards the draft. If you want to give up and propose to lose for one or two draft spots then grab a bucs hat and root for them because honestly you don’t belong on this blog and our “why not us” attitude. Give em hell and hope for the best Fins. 2 more wins and you NEVER KNOW!
I’m all in.
Laces out!
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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
Sean Smith/Vontae Davis= Pat Surtain/Sam Madison
I guess what im trying to say is,this will forever be my team,0-16,16-0 either way im n bandwagon chump,i lke the makeup of this team,simply because its ours :)
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 22, 2009 2:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
God Dammit Im In! I dont care what happens the fact that Sparano in two year has already one a Division title and taken us to the playoffs is good enough. Then there is this year where we are a .500 team & in contention for the playoffs after losing your starting QB, RB, NT & CB. One thing that can be said is this Fins have Balls they fight till the end & can upset the best of them. Go Miami Dolphins!
Zach Thomas: I played against New England twice a year every year my whole career. I learned to not like that team. I wasn't going to join them.
Great post Matty
Actually great post and great comments by everyone . It’s good to see that a lot of us are still keeping things in perspective. It’s one thing to be critical of the team you love but to give up or want to lose, it’s best you keep that shit to your self. I’m always all in!
yo matt good article
im all in with ya lets go miami great comeback yesterday but we need 2 take care of business and get 2 wins and take care of things on our part and hope pitt beats baltimore and hope that new england beats j-ville lets go miami because we are DWO-4LIFE
by pdoggs DWO-4LIFE on Dec 22, 2009 4:48 AM EST reply actions
I believe!!!
I don’t see how you can’t believe in this team! Go Fins!! My jersey is on the way from Santa!!! It will be a glorious weekend!!!
If I'm a chicken, you're a turkey....
Couldn't have said it better, Matty!
I’m in….. and have been all year. Even if we do not make the playoffs this year, I’m VERY satisfied with the growth of this team in the ’09 season. Look at our O line, how Henne has come along, the rookie DB tandem, our kicking game, and even our receivers. Just a couple of missing pieces & this team will be a force to recon with next year!
Since 1970, I say “Go Dolphins!”
by davehowardcustom on Dec 22, 2009 5:43 AM EST reply actions
I'm not even a Dolphins fan and I'm not counting them out.
I learned long ago that every fight should have a price. You may not win every bout, but you’ve got to make the other guy “pay” the price to win. No easy victories: he’s going to know you were in the fight, and remember your name. “Miami Dolphins” – I learned the name years ago, and they never let you forget.
Count out the Dolphins? Never !
With the Texans, you never know which team will show up, and the Steelers, decimated by injuries, will be trench warfare – a battle of wills. The Dolphins will be in both of those games. Can’t say good luck, but I will pray for the health of your team. In the end, that will be the most useful.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 5:55 AM EST reply actions
Hey, you gotta tell it like it is.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Playoffs why not Super Bowl
Been a fan for over 35 yrs when I first jumped on and will still be on when I ride through the pearly gates. Was at the game(was my first pro game and Dolphins game) and from the opening kick-off till the final kick all I can say is I always believed. The nfl better enjoy our quote un quote rebuilding years cause when were done they will get tired of seeing us.The Super Bowl comes through Miami this year but in years to come the trophies will come here too. Go Fins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will always be with the Dolphins!!!!!
Love your post Matty. Got me all fired up. We can do this shit!!!!! Why not?
"It is obvious the Patriots souls are on lease - any day now Satan will rise up to New England - kick Tom Brady, Kevin Garnett, and David Ortiz in their luck filled testicles - and turn that area into his personal vacation home here on earth.-Rzayo 24, week one.
"Everybody in that room should be embarrassed. If they’re not embarrassed, they got the wrong job or they’re stealing money from baseball."-Ozzie Guillen 8/28/09
I posted this on my facebook page!!!!
"It is obvious the Patriots souls are on lease - any day now Satan will rise up to New England - kick Tom Brady, Kevin Garnett, and David Ortiz in their luck filled testicles - and turn that area into his personal vacation home here on earth.-Rzayo 24, week one.
"Everybody in that room should be embarrassed. If they’re not embarrassed, they got the wrong job or they’re stealing money from baseball."-Ozzie Guillen 8/28/09
hey matty thx for calling out those guys, they made me furious
anyways i watched the game again this morning and recorded it onto disk as i always do and was specifically watching the o-line in slow motion. Let me tell you if Vernon doesn’t step it up i dont know what to do. happy agout nate garner though, i like him alot, we might start him in the future over Donald Thomas, even when he is healthy. Anyways we got to thank Joe berger for a nice performance too, but i still cant wait till Jake Grove is ready to go again, in my opinion our best performing lineman this season. Hey anyone who has not seen Sparano’s “day after” conference yet, head over, you got to love him, that guy is one hell of Fighter.
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I didn't want the 5th seed anyway. 6th seed or bust!!
I’ve been all in for a while… it’s just that noone is taking my chips on the losses… so deal’m up baby!!
Bandwagon Fans
Anyone giving up on the Dolphins are not true fans. They are loosers that need to stay home and watch golf.
Grrrrrrrrr
John
My first post
I have been reading these forums for a couple years now. I have been a Fins fan since I can remember. The reason I never signed up was how many “fans” would give up on this team so easily. I can barely read the game thread anymore without wanting to break something, Hopefully, some of those “fans” will read this and realize the error in their ways and change will be upon us.
Great post Matty and keep up the good work!
lol another lurker breaks his cherry
welcome aboard pal
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 23, 2009 3:02 AM EST up reply actions
Your Damn right Matty!!!!!
I was explaining to my buddy yesterday how the fins can go to the playoffs and he didn’t believe me…..
To be honest, it’s just great to be in week sixteen and still have something to play for and still be excited every Sunday…
It has been an up and down year but it’s never too late to kick a little ass and even if we don’t get into the playoffs it has been one fun ride..
GO FINS!!!!!!!!!!
Even if we don't make the playoffs.......
We have one hell of a core team here. Those of us that have stuck it out through the mediocrity will have many years of celebration ahead. I predict that in 2020, the Dolphins will be named the “Team of the 10’s” Easily 4 or 5 championships over the next ten years!
Them "fans" are why reading the game thread is not one of my favs sometimes.
I don’t like have to be a cheerleading coach for “sad, little cheerleaders.”
Ups, downs even Gin’s sideways – I stay with the Phins.
goo goo goojoob
I AINT HEARD NO FAT LADY
This line said by Will Smith in independence day is what I told all my fellow dolphin coworkers yesterday. Until the playoffs are an impossibility, I’m in.
by GeorgiaTechFinsFan on Dec 22, 2009 8:59 AM EST reply actions
WELL F-ING SAID, MATTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We’re still very much alive! Now, we just have to go take it.
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It ain't over!
I was in the stands till the final bell sounded Sunday in Nashville and I never gave up hope then. I will not give up hope now. Just win these next two and let’s see where the chips fall.
Dang straight Matty.
Those people are the reason why I stay away from the game day threads. Every time the other team scores or we turn the ball over, hell, every time we have to punt, there is a bunch of people already throwing in the towel and saying the game is done. I remember the last one that I regularly posted in, it was like 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter and we were only down by 10 points and people were saying that the game was over and we lost. There was still over 25 minutes of game left to play!! Ridiculous!!
I have been a fan of this team since I started watching football when I was 7, and I will never give up on this team.
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I certainly don't discount our playoff chances...
The possibility remains but obviously we lost control of our destiny. That’s one key diff. between this year & last – winning out isn’t going to suffice.
the thing is that this team has repeatedly shown it isn’t quite ready for the big time. It isn’t a criticism at all actually just an observation of a young team that’s still learning how to win & seize the opportunity when it comes.
For me, the titans game was a perfect example. Miami played a similar role to what New Orleans & Indy did against us for most of the game. We did nothing early, got behind, then roared back to tie the game. The difference? We couldn’t finish what we started & win on a day where we didn’t play our best game. The colts & saints on the other hand, didn’t play their best games against us but managed to steal a win.
The buffalo game was another example of a highly winnable game that we let slip away.
Before anyone says anything, i’m far from down on this team. Actually the opposite. Given when CP went down and with an 0-3 start and a 2nd year QB making his first starts – i think we’ve done very very well. This is how young teams mature – oftentimes by growing pains. Next year I think you’ll see this squad wins games like the buffalo, titans, saints, and colts games that we lost this year. Henne will be better as will our other young players. Get the right upgrades (and we all know what those are!!!), address the weak points (can you say W-I-L-S-O-N?), and look out.
Am I crazy? Maybe. Disillusioned? Possibly.
Drunk? Abosultely!
I love my Fins, but they aren’t going to the playoffs. Doesn’t mean I’ll pull for them any less. Doesn’t mean I jumping off any bandwagon like people do with a “hot team”. I was here when they went 1-15 and would’ve been here if they pulled a 0-16. I just don’t see.
I’m proud of them. I wear their colors every where I go. Whats not to be proud of, brutal schedule, lost their starting QB, RB, NT, CB and those are just a few we lost FOR THE SEASON. Not to mention players we lost for 2-3 games. And we are still standing tall at the end with all other playoff hopefuls. And I will add we did it by giving our young rookie, 1st and 2nd years players playing. Thats right, we are doing it While rebuilding.
I love your spirit Matty. I hope God would put that present underneath my Christmas tree too. I just don’t think it is our year.
Bottom Line:
GOT FINS!
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"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
A 10 month old
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
I'm in the same boat
I;m happy with the season no matter what, just based on what this team has overcome to get to this point
Count Me In (Win or Lose)
I think we will win.
I would like to see fewer mistakes, especially in the red zone (green area) and more pass rush (More Wake Up Please).
More aggressive play calling (going for it on 4th down instead of kicking field goals..especially against Houston, but no Ricky passes please, Wildpat only on goal-line or 2 pt conversion)
No Gibril Wilson. Seriously.
How about some Kory Sheets?
Jerome Harrison was stuck on the bench and then went off for 286 yards. Just give him a chance to give Ricky some rest. Keep him out of situations where he has to pass protect. Put him in the slot and use him as a motion-Wildcat or slot receiver on a screen (he can do more damage than Bess). Try him on kick off returns. Let’s find out if lame KO returns really is a problem with the blocking or if it’s Ted Ginn’s indecisiveness.
Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and Chris Clemons. Trio > me.
the most amazing thing
is they might make the playoffs wih 2 rookie corners! who does that?!
by captain flitzy on Dec 22, 2009 10:08 AM EST reply actions
I didnt hear no bell ring.
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
Im in
Im in, just reading your blog just made me want to go beat up a JETs fan or a patriots fan LoL……….
Draft Taylor Mays in 2010......................
by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Dec 22, 2009 10:49 AM EST reply actions
If you stick with Jets fan, I help out
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
LOL!!
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
28 "Phinsider Feud" Points
by Chupathingy on Dec 22, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
aright BEAT UP JETS FANS
Draft Taylor Mays in 2010......................
by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Dec 22, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
She just said to quit making them eat worms.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
All-in!
Superbowl in Miami! First team ever to win a Superbowl at home! Dolphins, team of destiny! “Man is the dream of the dolphin.” -Enigma
great post Matty!!!
I’m all in!!! Let’s kick the hit out of some Texans and Steelers and prove Tim Hasselbeck wrong on ESPN. *otherucker!!
so remember people...
dont criticize the dolphins when they lose games they should have won ok. or you will be labeled with ….uh oh….“quotes”! Like the dreaded….“fan”
by CaliPhinsFan on Dec 22, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Constructive criticism is fine.
That’s what we do here. It’s the garbage I read during the game thread that made me want to puke. And then to read that some fans of this team want them to LOSE games? That’s disgusting – point blank.
One thing that the 1-15 season taught me was to NEVER take winning for granted. Enjoy it while you can – even if its a meaningless game. I guess some fans didn’t get that memo.
damn right
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
other so called dolphins fans are bandwagon hoppers,1-15 season is what I brag to all my friends and family, well its nothing to brag about but I showed them I was a fan waring dolphin colors even when we were down. thats what you call a true fan.
Draft Taylor Mays in 2010......................
by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Dec 22, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Damn right.
Don’t forget about 4-12 the year before that too.
Driver of the Make David Lee OC Bandwagon
Repentant Former Driver of the Trade-Ronnie-Brown Bandwagon.
actually emotionally
you are right it sucks but intellectially I’ll take the 5 or 10 spots in every round of the draft. Intellectally it is smart to want 35 spots through 7 rounds of the draft and be 7-9 ratyher then 8-8 when you are done as far as the playoffs go. How old are you matty? I am guesing not mid-30’s 40’s where you have went through 40+ football seasons. With this front office 5 or six spots in the draft could be difference in 10 yrs of contending. On draft day Matty I dare you to be in the thread and 5 spots before we pick for lets say just the first 3 rounds not even all 7 you give me the top 3 guys you want in order that is currently available for each round. Lets see after losing 5 or 6 of them if you would rather be 7-9 or 8-8 with no playoffs either record. I have been a diehard through many good and not so good seasons. After watching all of most of the 72 and 73 seasons and now waiting 36+ yrs for another superbowl win I will give a win or 2 away here and there for the betterment of the franchise. So matty you gonna have the guts to list your top 3 in order on draft day prior to our pick when 5 teams are still picking for the first 3 rounds?
3 new 2010 starting LBers via 2010 draft
Confidence breeds success, self-doubt breeds failure
come on dont call him out like that
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
"how about this story, from 1-15 to 11-5 and the best team in the afc east, from 15 games out a year ago to reigning champions, unbelievable" Jim Mandich
he can do what he wants
that’s the great thing about this community. We have varying opinions and we call each other out in a civil way. But in the end, we’re all just diehard Dolphin fans hoping for the best from our team.
ridiculous
I don’t give away wins. We saw in 2007 how few and far between wins can be. And I especially don’t give away wins when there’s still many ways the Dolphins can get into the playoffs.
As far as the draft goes, it’s a crap shoot anyways. And the only player I’m DYING to draft is a top 5 pick that the Dolphins have no way of getting (Eric Berry).
As far as your “dare” – I’ll be there. But the bottom line is I’m a fan of this team and I want WINS – not draft picks. I guess 2007 didn’t teach you anything, but it sure taught me a lot. I learned that we should appreciate any win we get.
And I still stand by my statement that any “fan” who is rooting for this team to lose – especially while there are still playoff aspirations – makes me sick to my stomach. Period.
Not to mention – this front office has done such a solid job drafting that it doesn’t matter where we pick – we’ll get good players.
I was one of two in the game thread
that barring a broncos and ravens win I would root for draft position intellectally… emotionally it always hurts. I did state if we are in hunt I would root for win to get Henne playoff experience. If you are only calling out the guy that didnt qualify IF we are out of…. Again once we are out of playoff race the team is disappointed in the year’s performance whether 7-9 or 8-8 thus making 5 spots in draft, potentially, important to the franchise’s future. Like last year if we have 5 spots just in the second round we get Rey Rey over White you dont think that would be to the betterment of the franchise? That is one example I am too lazy to research what it would have meant to the team for just the last 2 drafts we have had this FO. I look forward to seeing your top 3 desire’s for the first 3 rounds :)
3 new 2010 starting LBers via 2010 draft
Confidence breeds success, self-doubt breeds failure
While you speak of intelectuality
Your Logic is flawed in your method of thinking. First of let me bring to the front the fact that if we had said higher picks we have absolutely no idea what this FO would have drafted. Now that does not conclude that we should just forgo this based on said assumption but I like you to point to me to some one who was atleast 60% accurate in their predictions on what this FO was going to do on this past draft. Hell ill even lower it and ask for 40% accuracy.
I am fond of pragmatism, and thus i take logic as a tool. The Draft as well is just a ‘tool’ in the way to make a a good caliber team. I believe the self evident past two seasons can attest for this on the Trifecta’s ability to find guys and make do with what they have .
The Phinz are in the business to win games in order to make a run for the prized Lombardy trophy, This is the goal of ANY foot ball team EVERY season. On a practical standpoint how does “losing” games when you still have a chance to make a run for the ‘Holy Grail’ make sense? Do we not keep going until all knights have died to ascertain your goal and then when every possible situation is exhausted we say “ok let’s go regroup”.
If your your goal is to win Super Bowls then does it not follow suit that even if there is but a 1% chance you still go for it until it is defined there is no more hope, Cause after all Football is what made 5 Seconds into “5 SECONDS!”
On a side note, Matty I Has always posted a mock draft ever since i can remember In fact i believe you can still see his mock draft of this season. Matty is too nice to say it so I’ll stand in the doorway for him. When you call someone out Make sure your actually calling them out becuase quiet frankly this is something he has been doing every off season as long as I can recall.
true
bgut take out that 1-15 yr and like most of the 2000’s we were niether good nor bad say 7-9 or 8-8 we dont make the playoffs, we definately have no Jake Long, and most likely no Parcells/Irland/Sparano and no real hope as we have today. As Matty’s main point is I remember 2007 and wins are hard to come by. Being a 40+ year fan of both the phins and angels being niether good nor bad year in and year ou8t does a franchise any good. the fact remains we are here today with huge hope for the next 10 years because of one thing only and that is we were 1-15 in 2007 thus creating the chain of events that gives us true contender hope instead of langishing in the “average” state we were in for almost a decade prior to that season
3 new 2010 starting LBers via 2010 draft
Confidence breeds success, self-doubt breeds failure
and if you read my post
you’ll know that this statement(This is the goal of ANY foot ball team EVERY season. On a practical standpoint how does "losing" games when you still have a chance to make a run for the ‘Holy Grail’ make sense?) is not my doing I said IF IF IF we have no shot at the playoffs.
3 new 2010 starting LBers via 2010 draft
Confidence breeds success, self-doubt breeds failure
And you know what? If we were in a position to take Maualuga over Pat White...we'd would have needed to finish 8-8.
“Can’t miss” draft prospects tend to, well…miss. Quite often actually.
So now, so I can try to understand your logic — Rey Maualuga is worth 3 wins and a division title?
give away wins
I have witnessed 400 or so and 200+ losses 1 or 2 wont hurt me nor this franchise in fact could help franchise IF they are properly placed :)
3 new 2010 starting LBers via 2010 draft
Confidence breeds success, self-doubt breeds failure
really
the only player i REALLY want is Ndumakong Suh, with Jason Ferguson all but gauranteed to hang it up, especially with the injury. but yet again another top 5 prospect, but i think terrence Cody will be available at any point in the first round even if we make the postseason, that is who i have my eye on right now.
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
"how about this story, from 1-15 to 11-5 and the best team in the afc east, from 15 games out a year ago to reigning champions, unbelievable" Jim Mandich
Draft order doesn't matter
Why do you think the teams at the top stay there? They draft well regardless of their draft position. The reason we were mediocre for so long is because of the mediocre people running the team. It might even be better to get a lower draft position and save money.
You just dropped a truth bomb...
KABOOM.
Driver of the Make David Lee OC Bandwagon
Repentant Former Driver of the Trade-Ronnie-Brown Bandwagon.
I never Jumped
off the band wagon I beleive it can be done and the football gods will help us. lets go all in super bowl and all.
I never give up on my beloved Dolphins
I miss Don Shula
Sick of the Haters!
I’m getting sick and tired of all the haters and “fair weather fans” that post mind-numbingly dumb comments. If you hate the Dolphins that much then please go pick another team to root for and don’t ever come back. I sat through every gut-wrenching loss of the 1-15 season and I STILL ROOTED FOR THE DOLPHINS EVERY SINGLE PLAY!!! From where they were then to where they are now is night and day. Here’s a tell tale difference…at halftime of Sundays game, and even when were down 24-6, I still felt like we had a chance. Two years ago I knew they would lose that game. If you are that ignorant that you can’t see how far we’ve come and more importantly where we are headed, then you definately need to stop watching football because you don’t understand anything about the game. REGARDLESS of how the last two games play out (and I think still have a chance for the playoffs) I am thrilled and excited that the Miami Dolphins have a team AND a coaching staff that are moving the ship in the right direction. Something I haven’t seen since Shula. Once more, if you’re hating on the Phins, go find another team. As for the rest of us REAL FANS, it’s good to be rooting next to you for our beloved Miami Dolphins!!!
by DIEHARDPHINFAN on Dec 22, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions
I haven't heard any fat ladies yet
Why not us.
A few years back, the Golden State Warriors made the playoffs for the first time since I can remember being a fan (circa 2001 or so). They were the 8th seed, and barely made it in. As you can imagine, they were heavy underdogs. The number one seed in the West was the Dallas Mavericks, and they had a championship-caliber seed.
I never gave up. I was perhaps one of the only Warriors fans who truly believed their team matched up well with Dallas, and that they could win. I held out faith.
Our motto at the time: “We Believe.”
How very fitting that the title of this story is “You gotta believe.” The Warriors went on to win the series 4-2 against a very strong Mavericks team.
I Believe.
David A. Fuller, CPA, MST
2009 Unofficial "The Phinsider" (Phinaddict's League) Fantasy Baseball League Champion
Matty, I couldnt agree with you more.
It’s easy to be a ‘fan’ of a team that constantly makes the playoffs, or practically dominates a decade with Super Bowl titles, but true character and commitment is shown in seasons like the one we had in 2007. When a season became a prayer for one win, no one stopped believing and it happened. So too, these playoffs will happen as long as no one’s faith begins to falter.
We are The Miami Dolphins…
and I Believe.
Reppin the Fins all the way from Penn State.
"Why not us?" - Tony Sparano. The man, the myth, the legend, himself.
And thank God his first and last name aren't the same word like coaches of the past.
watch that kind of talk
your making me emotional again, damn have we been through alot.
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
i was just thinking the same thing....
I remember in 2007 in OT when the kicker was lining up to make the game winning field goal for the Ravens and thinking to myself that we are going 0-16…..
Then he misses it and a few plays later some dude that i never heard of scored the winning TD. Wayne Huizenga was crying, and Camarillo was celebrating in the endzone.
That was one emotional game…
GO FINS!!!!!!!!!
guys stop the draft position spot talk
this is how i see it, the draft will come when it comes, we all know the Dolphins needs, and who will be available on draft day, but now is now. Werr are going to go out there and finish this season with a winning record, and pray for a shot in the playoffs, we know the scenbarios and it might happen. but even if it doesn’t (god forbid) we will know that this season has NOT been anything close to a failure. you all know why, noone has to explain. i believe in these dolphins, there fiesty and dont let up.
And matty great post, i know we have fought before (over henning) but i respect you alot. This team will make us cry again, like we did after the ravens game in 07, like we did in foxborough after the drubbing week 3 last year, and mostly like we did in New York in week 17.
We are good everyone knows it, but we are close to being great, i really believe it and “you believe it it will happen” mike strahan
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
I am with you William Wallace
Great Post.. brings me back to BraveHeart.. best movie ever. I have been a fan since 1992. Seen ups and downs just like all of you… But you never turn your back on your team.. Who the hell in their right mind would want them to lose their last two games, just to move a few spots up in the draft.. That is crazy talk..
Living in Mass my whole family thinks I am crazy, because I am a Dolphins… but Dan “the man” Marino got me hooked and I never turned back and never will.. whether its 1 – 15 or playoffs you always cheer for your team…
Go Phins..
Boston Dolphins Fan
1 chip
I’m going to save a chip to buy some cornbread in beans with, just in case. Maybe 2 chips so I can get a beer too.
Dolphins don’t even need my chips come to think of it. I’m going to keep all the chips I have left and go Christmas shopping.
well now that we have that covered
just kidding
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
"how about this story, from 1-15 to 11-5 and the best team in the afc east, from 15 games out a year ago to reigning champions, unbelievable" Jim Mandich
so matty
i dont want to be rude, im not trying to, but are you still upset with Dan Henning, no offense intended i just didn’t understand how you were, how anyone was, ilove him and respect him, but well i just had to ask.
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
"how about this story, from 1-15 to 11-5 and the best team in the afc east, from 15 games out a year ago to reigning champions, unbelievable" Jim Mandich
maty i have a boat load of respect for you
i’ve only been following this blog for a few months and i enjoy everything about it, but the best thing is how you dont flip flop. i had an argument in a previous post regarding us loosing two games for better draft stock and i told that person to shove it because to even root for losses for your team is awful, im from NJ and i come from a long family of yankees fans and we are die-hard fans we dont quit until the final out, so until the final buzzer im going to be there with my team…..GO DOLPHINS!!!!
I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface
i totally believe we can beat both remaining teams,but...
dont think we can rely on the other part of the scenarios that have to happen….i dont give a crap about draft choices, i care about facts….
www.zerothirteen.com
well said
i’ve been on the bandwagon since I can remember. Im never going anywhere. Ill be cheering for the fins till I die. I dont care if we are 0-18 if I live that long for the 2 new games or 0-26 if it ever makes it that far & im still kickin..
draft picks? a darn crap shoot.. anyone that really knows or watches sees more playmakers come late 1’st – early-mid 3 rd…
merrry christmas
Head Of Security..
What The Deuce?
Am Here and Always will Be!!!!
Matty, you got my blood pumping, dude…..Fuck yeah!!! Miami has always been bandwagon fans, but only the real ones make a difference. You know the ones that stay at home games till the final whistle win or lose. Yeah thats me. Been a Dolfan since I was 5 became a season ticket holder the year we went 1-16…well guess what?? I’M STILL A SEASON TICKET HOLDER!!!! Screw all the wanna be Dolfans that say tank the season. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? This team has every chance of still making the playoffs and like most have said, “Any Given Sunday.” We have a chance and who cares if we need help…WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE! What else can you ask for from this team that has lost so many crucial players this year. I love this team and love their character. I hope they make it because it will be a whole new season ladies and gents and i have my chips all in. I Bleed aqua and orange.
All in!!
I am all in with you Matty!!! I hate people that jump on and off the band wagon, just assume those people stay gone. I also hate the people who keep complaining about a number 1 receiver and ILB and whatever…… Let us not forget that Mr. Henne has thrown for record yards with his “mediocre” receiving corps…. think about it…. Would a #1 really make the difference? I believe there is a structure that is being put into place, and those fans that find time to bash what we have, are merely the same folks who come back and praise those receivers when they have a good game….. Think about it
We can beat any team in the NFL, I believe that
We are a good enough team to hanG with the best in the NFL. In fact, we have hung with the best. We should have one the Colts game and the Saints game just to name too. We beat Tennessee every which way but on the scoreboard. Can we and will we beat the Texans and the Steelers? Absolutely! Will that be good enough to get us into the playoffs?
No one knows. THAT IS WHY THE PLAY THE GAMES
Henne is going to have a monster game next week, with no picks.
V.Davis will not stumble again.
Defensive Line will get 5 sacks. Two more sacks this past Sunday tied give us 40 on the season, tied for 2nd in the NFL with Pitt.
I BELIEVE!!
Dolphins 31
Texans 20
Superbowl Starved
I'm in
Yesterday was history
Tomorrow is a mystery
But today is a gift
That's why it's called the present
IM IN
matty- truly one of the best posts youve ever written
LETS DO THIS SON!
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Dec 22, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions
There's nothing left to lose.
The ‘phins have had such a tough schedule and they haven’t quit yet so may as well throw in the last chips and see how this ride ends.
High horse
Matty, why do you insist on sitting on the high horse and calling out fans that post crap in anger? You know damn good and well that these fans are true, they are just pissed. Dropping the F-bomb, OK step in but give the holier than thou crap a rest. That is the worst thing about this blog, you insist on being the patron saint of Dolfans. If you get embarrassed by people posting in anger than don’t have a live game day thread. You, Nicky and the few other “positive fans” do private messaging. I like this blog and I usually keep it positive, but not everyone can be on here with the usual responses:“Oh yes Matty… you’re always right and it’s OK that we lost because we’ll grow from this.” Not everyone that conducts their self in a way unacceptable to you is a bandwagoneer. Some people just get emotional about their team… and anger is an emotion! If you wan’t to pull me than go ahead…At least I’m saying it straight.
8-8 is a victory at this point!
by phatfinfan on Dec 22, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
HA
this is too funny
all I’ll say here in response is that there’s no excuse to “post in anger” as you call it. It’s one thing if we’re at a bar or at a house and watching it. Then whatever comes out is more or less a quick reaction. But when you post on here, YOU HAVE TO TYPE. You have time to think. It’s not just a reaction. And there’s no excuse to sit at your computer while watching your team and decide" hmmm – i should bring my negativity to everyone by posting things like ‘this game is over’ and ‘this team should just lose the rest of their games’ when there’s still 30 minutes of football left to be played."
by Matty I on Dec 22, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just don't think it's right to call people out as bandwagoneers...
and question their fan status because they vent on the computer. Hell, most guy’s old ladys aren’t going to listen. What is Miamifins23 your brother or something? You better put his stuff on the front page or he won’t back you anymore!
8-8 is a victory at this point!
And I appreciate your work on this blog
I just see it different that’s all.
8-8 is a victory at this point!
what front page dum a$$
i’ve only written 1 post here and i’ve never asked for front page publicity so dont bring that up. and i’ve only questioned 1 person fan status cus he kept on saying we should loose out for draft pick
I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface
I do not have an issue with you
I responded to Matty’s post. I only responded to you because you felt that it was your duty to defend Matty. The guy does alright without you. You did not bring anything to the topic, you simply said that “You got a knowledge bomb dropped ur your ass” and called me a “dumb a$$.” bring something or move on…Never-mind, I’m done.
You just admitted that you gave up too, Give it 1 more week. We still have a good shot, look at the Sun Sentinel.
8-8 is a victory at this point!
i meant it as i have given up b4 but im still here
rooting and not for draft picks, yea i did say that knowledge bomb thing and i meant it as a joke (from scrubs) yes it was uncalled for and if you want a sorry then sorry, ur the one who dragged the im his brother and he should put my stuff front page so yea i do mean the dum a$$ part. i just backed up his point that evry1 seems to quit at some point (and yes ill admit it that i’ve done it too but gotten back, but what ive not done is write shit bout how we should loose for picks). i’ll back him up just like ill back anyone else up who says stuff like that. regardless we are all frustrated from the last game…..things were said, things were done…hey badabin badaboom lol we still all fans, so mybad for the first comments but the 2nd one i said it cus you brought in some dum a$$ remarks.
I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface
I didn't say who was or wasn't a "fair weather fan"
I used a generalization. You’re the one taking it personally. I really don’t even remember who it was making those comments in the gamethread.
you got a knowledge bomb dropped on ur ass
go join the hope we loose out for a better draft pick bandwaggon
I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface
Typical
I disagreed with Matty so I’m a Bandwagoneer? Should of been expected when I went against Matty’s point of view. I know you have been on here for a big 3 months so you are an expert on fan protocol. I’m sure Matty feels better having you back him up.
I wrote that I like the Blog. I just think that people are going to type thing when they are angry, especially live. I happen to disagree. This isn’t the first time this has come up.
8-8 is a victory at this point!
lmao yea its been a long 3 months
ay im just backing his point on how some people just seem to give up, shit i’ve done that too
I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface
Why do I get tossed in there?
because I can’t stand people acting like the game is over at halftime or the season is over after 15 weeks? lol I love it.. Matty you should totally private message me so we can laugh about this hahahaha
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Four 2008/2009 Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Draft CJ Spiller
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 23, 2009 3:12 AM EST up reply actions
hahahah I guess so
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Four 2008/2009 Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Draft CJ Spiller
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 24, 2009 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
*opps
what i meant was HOUSTON CAN F**K OFF
I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface
nice save lol =P
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Dec 22, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
yup mariano rivera safe
I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface
Miami media
I agree 100% with your post Matty. Reading the Miami Herald after Sunday’s lost made you think the Dolphins had no chance in hell of making the playoffs. Pitt certainly can beat Baltimore. And NE can beat the Jags. I mean cmon man!!!
I Felt This Exact Way Sunday Night
Even posted one called “Believe.”
Mine was a drunken rant, however, as it was after the game and I decided to elevate my drinking for the afternoon.
In any case, I went so far as to say the Phins will make it. Crystal ball said so.
And since I’ve never been wrong in my entire life I think it will happen.
Ahem.
I run a lazy, booze addled & thoroughly unprofessional Dolphins blog: www.thephinisher.com.
Official Grand Poobah of the Chad Henne fan club and bandwagon. Some of you have a lot to prove before you can climb on.
LOL !!!!
Don’t stop him he’s on a roll !
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
what the
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
"how about this story, from 1-15 to 11-5 and the best team in the afc east, from 15 games out a year ago to reigning champions, unbelievable" Jim Mandich
Not everyone got the "Animal House" reference, I guess.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Here you go
Not old, just classic.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
I know how he feels.
I did the same thing once, got the same response.
oh man. i forgot all about that movie. yeah i’m 18 so that isn’t really one of the perennial movies a that’s regularly referred too. Um how about "
“The Replacments” the kicker in the bar fight,about to kick this guy who is bending over…………….“Lets play football Bitch”
Fans do not buy tickets to see their team lose.
Intentionally losing lets down the fans AND the players. On a team with this much heart, you know the players feel every loss like a punch in the gut. It would be a disgrace to so many people to just throw in the towel even if there was no chance left for the playoffs. Winners play to win.
Driver of the Make David Lee OC Bandwagon
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by joel311 on Dec 22, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Perfect summary.
+1
David A. Fuller, CPA, MST
2009 Unofficial "The Phinsider" (Phinaddict's League) Fantasy Baseball League Champion
by Dave.Phuller on Dec 22, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Been a Dolphin fan for life and always will be.
Passed down through the family.Trying to improve your draft slot is fine when you have assclowns running your team(as the Dolphins have had in the past),but with the triad making the picks,draft order is the least of my worries.Finish strong boys!Go Fish!
some inspiration for whoever wants to read:
The minute you start talking about what you’re going to do if you lose, you have lost.
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To succeed…You need to find something to hold on to, something to motivate you, something to inspire you.
-Tony Dorsett
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The difference between the impossible and the possible lies in a mans determination
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Dec 22, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions
all right
hey donovon warren declared, along with ras-i-dowling, thats two more good corners entering. is there any news on whether or not Dan Williams has declared
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
"Give me Ernest or give me death"-me
"how about this story, from 1-15 to 11-5 and the best team in the afc east, from 15 games out a year ago to reigning champions, unbelievable" Jim Mandich
We don't need cornerbacks, man
David A. Fuller, CPA, MST
2009 Unofficial "The Phinsider" (Phinaddict's League) Fantasy Baseball League Champion
by Dave.Phuller on Dec 22, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, and Texans.
Go Dolphins.
Matty? You pushed all your chips in?
You sure you don’t have a chip on your shoulder, too? LOL Anyway. I agree with you. Been a fan of the Dolphins all my life. (Since they got started in the league circa:1966). Seen some great games and history made with the Dolphins over the last 40 plus years. And as they say, on any given Sunday…….I’m not so much worried about Miami being capable of winning the last two games. I’m concerned about the circunstances and outside help they are going to need to be playoff bound.
I’ve witnessed their losing and their winning seasons, and still, I am a loyal fan. I believe the current Organization is creating a dynasty that should be a domanating force in the league for years to come, as soon as all the peices fall into place.
Just started reading the posts here on the Phinsiders and wanted you to know I enjoy your commentary about our beloved Dolphins, Matty. At least you aren’t afraid to place a bet when the CHIPS are down. LOL!
Like I said before
Fans get crazy because they take things for granted. There’s nothing embarrassing about losing to a good Titan team, but looking past our opponents to the playoff scenarios at 10-6 just fed this attitude, and that’s on all the media, Maty included.
So what do we do now, focus on another tough Texan team, or do we start looking at the 9-7 scenarios… again?
I'm not buying the "looking past our opponents" stuff.
It’s one thing if the players are – and I don’t think this coaching staff would let that happen. But we’re just fans. So we can look ahead to whatever we like. That has no bearing on the outcome of anything. And if any fan confused “talking about various scenarios” with “assuming we win these games” – then that’s their own fault.
Maybe
Apparently it has no bearing on the outcome, but it has a huge bearing on the bitching and the screaming for heads once the expectations are not fulfilled! Which may, in turn, create pressure for PR changes to the team in some situations (we’re not there yet), particularly to the QB, GM and the head coach.
Anyway, the players feed off the fans. We all know that. And they live in the same city with the fans. So, in the end, I do think it matters what fans do during the week. I’m sure it’s a lot harder to focus on the right thing when everything you read on the papers or hear on the news about your team, and everything you hear on the streets and from friends has to do with the freakin’ Raiders and whether they can beat somebody else or not in order for your future 10-6 to make the playoffs! A good coach will do his job, draw the group tighter together, in order to cut them off from the negative influence of the fans and media, much like terrible teams are forced to do… which is hardly the ideal situation.
Maybe not but...
Apparently no bearing on the outcome, but a huge bearing on the bitching and the screaming for heads once the expectations are not fulfilled! Which may, in turn, create pressure for PR changes to the team in some situations (we’re not there yet), particularly to the QB, GM and the head coach.
Anyway, the players feed off the fans. We all know that. And they live in the same city with the fans. So, in the end, I do think it matters what fans do during the week. I’m sure it’s a lot harder to focus on the right thing when everything you read on the papers or hear on the news about your team, and everything you hear on the streets and from friends has to do with the freakin’ Raiders and whether they can beat somebody else or not in order for your future 10-6 to make the playoffs! A good coach will do his job, draw the group tighter together, in order to cut them off from the negative influence of the fans and media, much like terrible teams are forced to do… which is hardly the ideal situation.
Looks like you guys have another believer
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 23, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions
I'd be ecstatic.
We match up well against the Bengals.
David A. Fuller, CPA, MST
2009 Unofficial "The Phinsider" (Phinaddict's League) Fantasy Baseball League Champion
by Dave.Phuller on Dec 23, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Right on
Dolphins all the way always root for em till I die go dolphins!
by inyourface6336 on Dec 23, 2009 4:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i´am all in too
german Phin Fan since the early 80th…. i always believe in our team..
proud to be a Dolphin
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This is why I don't go to game threads anymore.
It’s funny how everyone likes to point out how negative some people can get, and make an issue out of it. Yet, rare is the case when homerism is called out as an equally ugly thing. I think there’s a fair amount of both on this site, and that’s to be expected. If I had a dollar for every time someone has called for Jason Allen and Gibril Wilson to be cut, I’d be a rich man. The same thing could be said for every time someone has said Ronnie Brown is the best RB in the league.
I stand by the statement I made after we lost to the Bills that our chances to make the playoffs were slim to none. Am I going to root for us to lose every game for draft position. Never. I still want us to win every game, but I also realize that even if we do that it’s still not enough. How many of you really believe, with the playoffs on the line, the Broncos are going to lose to the Chiefs? Am I disappointed we won’t make the playoffs? Not really, but that’s because of all the adversities we’ve overcome this year to even finish 8-8 is better than anybody expected of this team. Alot of the media thought we’d finish worse than that with no injuries.
So while I may have called the season a wash after week 12, it wasn’t based on anger or frustration. It was based on our remaining schedule, the schedules of our wild card competitiors, and the fact we had lost control of our playoff destiny. But that doesn’t mean I wasn’t there rooting for them to win even when we were down 24-3. I will never root for a Miami Dolphins loss, and I agree with you Matty in that anyone who does, is not a true fan.
Logically, yes, it is highly improbable.
However, I won’t give up hope for the postseason emotionally until the phrase “mathematically eliminated” comes into play.
Whether or not that’s being a homer, I don’t know. Whether or not being a homer is a bad thing, I say it isn’t. I’m gonna root for my team wearing rose-colored glasses, I can’t help that.
I wouldn't call that being a homer.
I just think there needs to be some perspective in people’s expectations. As your first line demonstrates, you’re not a complete homer. Nor would I call Matty a homer, because I really don’t believe he’s that positive we will make the playoffs. Now somebody saying we’ll still win the Super Bowl, that is what i would consider some extreme homerism.
well
How many of you really believe, with the playoffs on the line, the Broncos are going to lose to the Chiefs?
They don’t have to. Tell me, is the following “logical” in your opinion:
-Chargers beat Titans.
-Patriots beat Jaguars.
-Steelers beat Ravens.
-Dolphins win last two.
If you think those are logical, then I’d say that there’s a better than “slim chance” the Dolphins squeak into the playoffs. But the most important thing is to take care of their own business. If they had done that last week, we’d be in the driver’s seat to begin with.
Logical, yes.
Probable, not so much. And if I’m not mistaken, “slim chance” were the same words you yourself used to describe the Dolphins playoff chances. I really hope things play out as you have laid them out, I just don’t realistically expect it to happen.
Of course it's not probable
Odds are not in your favor when you need 3 games out of your control to break the right way. But hell – I’d be thrilled with 9-7 even if the Dolphins don’t get in.
Let’s just get these last two and let the chips fall as they may.
That's why I like reading your stuff Matty.
A real straight shooter. And I would be thrilled as well at a 9-7 mark, playoffs or not. Very few of the media skeptics out there had us finishing above .500. Factor in the adversity we have overcome, and I see nothing but good things ahead. So here’s rooting for two more wins to finish out the season, and as you say, “let the chips fall as they may.”.
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