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NeedTracker: What the Dolphins are missing, and where they can find it, Part 3 of 3

In the final installment of my NeedTracker Series, we'll take a look at the Dolphins defense.  The D definitely needs more work than the offense, with upgrades needed in 3 of the 4 position groups, and quite a few aging pieces that don't have much longer to contribute.  And, although these guys stepped it up in the last game, I still believe that changes need to be made on this side of the ball.  So let's not waste any more time up here, Make the Jump.

Star-divide

 The Defense

Football is won in the trenches, and I'll once again start there.

Defensive Line

  • Starters - DE Kendall Langford, NT Jason Ferguson, DE Randy Starks
  • Reserves - NT Paul Soliai, DE Phillip Merling, DE Tony McDaniel, DE Lionel Dotson, DE Ryan Baker, DE Ikaika Alama-Francis

The DE position is talented, deep, and young.  With 2nd year players Langford and Merling (both a product of Parcells' first draft), and Randy Starks (age 26) and Tony McDaniel (24) as the 4 rotational players.  Dotson was also drafted that first year, and has stuck on the roster despite not seeing much action.  There is no need at the DE position.  But many people feel like we have a hole in the middle with Ferguson injured, not to mention a soon-to-be free agent.  He has expressed interest in coming back, and Soliai has done a nice job filling in, so I wouldn't classify it as a huge need, assuming Ferguson is able to come back strong.  If not, we would need to find a running mate for Soliai (or convert one of the tackles, possibly 6'7 305lb Tony McDaniel..  hmm).

Inside Linebackers

We are pretty thin here, and when Channing Crowder is the best LB on your team, you need to reevaluate the position.  Nothing against Channing, who certainly can play the run, but we need more talent inside, specifically, an upgrade of Akin Ayodele with somebody who is able to cover TE's and RB's.  Torbor provides solid veteran depth and does well when asked to fill in.  I think the biggest issue in the middle here is the severe lack of playmaking ability.  The highest single-season total for INT's from any one of these players is 2 (Ayodele), and Crowder just logged his first career INT two weeks ago.  Bottom line, we need a stud to pair with Channing.

Outside Linebackers

Porter and Taylor are both nursing home candidates by NFL standards, and they both have looked their age at points this year.  But they also have both been terrific against the run, and Porter has quietly amassed 8 sacks on the season, good for 6th in the AFC.  And I think we all realize now that Cam Wake is the best pass rusher on this squad, and looks like he'll be able to step in for Porter any time now.  Anderson has been effective, but doesn't bring a lot to the table, and Moses is still an unknown at this point, although some people do have high hopes for the kid.  Walden is a Trifecta favorite because of his raw athleticism and special teams prowess.  I do believe that we need to go after a strongside backer, somebody that can rush the passer, play the run, and beat up TE's just as well as he can cover them.  Taylor won't be able to play forever, so a replacement is needed sooner rather than later.

Secondary

  • Starters - CB Vontae Davis, CB Sean Smith, SS Yeremiah Bell, FS Gibril Wilson
  • Reserves - CB Nate Jones, CB Will Allen, CB Jason Allen, FS Chris Clemons, SS Tyrone Culver

Righ off the bat, Wilson needs to be replaced.  He's been the biggest disappointment this side of Ted Ginn, and he provides very little help to our rookie tandem at CB.  Davis and Smith have both been better than expected, showing signs of being one of the top duo's in the league very soon.  Bell has been solid, but the safety position as a whole has been dragged down by Wilson's subpar play.  Depth-wise, we are fine, with Jones holding down the nickel CB spot and Will Allen hopefully recovering from his injury to come back strong.  Clemons and Culver could be the future starters at the two safety spots.  Jason Allen is Jason Allen, but as the 5th corner, he is a damn good special teamer.

 

Looking at the defense, we are still missing some pieces, but the DE and CB positions are set, and they will be the anchors of our D.  But we do need to find a NT, a playmaker at ILB, a beast for the Strongside OLB spot, and a new FS. 

Rotational NT

  • Free Agency/Trades - Obviously the big prize would be Vince Wilfork, but I can't possibly see him hitting the market unless NE lowballs him bigtime.  Other potential options are Abreyu Franklin from SF, Casey Hampton from PIT, and my personal favorite of the group, Ryan Pickett from GB, who could very well hit the market, considering GB just drafted 2009's top NT prospect, BJ Raji.  If Pickett is available, I would love to snag him.
  • Draft - Everybody has an opinion on Terrence Cody, and mine is that he stinks.  If not for Carlos Dunlap, Cody would be the laziest player in the country, and I can't imagine him making it through training camp, nevermind dominating the middle of an NFL offensive line.  Dan Williams is an under-the-radar favorite of many, but I think we would need to take him in round 1, and I'm not too keen on taking a NT first, especially with Soliai improving and Ferguson possibly coming back.  A few late round prospects I'd be willing to take are Boo Robinson from Wake Forest, Jay Ross from ECU, and Torrell Troup, from Central Florida.

Playmaking ILB

  • Free Agency/Trades - There's a whole boatload of quality guys slated to hit free agency this year, and a few of the guys that I think Miami should take a look at are Karlos Dansby, Larry Foote, Barrett Ruud, and DeMeco Ryans.  Not all of them will hit the market, but if any of them do, we should jump all over them.
  • Draft - Rolando McClain is the favorite of just about everyone here, but his stock may rise to the point where we can't get him.  Brandon Spikes is probably the 2nd rated LB in this class, and Micah Johnson should be a good complement to Crowder inside.  Daryl Sharpton (from?  The U!) is the fastest ILB in the class, and could probably be picked up in the 3rd-4th round.

Strongside OLB

  • Free Agency/Trades - Well... Julius Peppers is slated to be a FA again, and anyone who was here last year knows how I felt about him (those of you that weren't, I want him to be a Dolphin).  Outside of him, I don't see any strongside backers worth picking up.
  • Draft - This is where we should find our guy.  Jerry Hughes from TCU, Von Miller from TexA&M, and Sergio Kindle from Texas should all be there when we pick in round 1, and I wouldn't be disappointed with any of them.  With one of these guys opposite Cam Wake, we would be scary good rushing the passer and stopping the run.  Ricky Sapp (Clemson) would be a good player to pick up in round 2.

A FS That Doesn't Suck

  • Free Agency/Trades - Instead of looking into FA or trade options, I thought I'd make a case for bumping Chris Clemons into the starting lineup.  He definitely has the speed to cover the entire field, and he's proven to be a fearless hitter and solid tackler on special teams.  During the preseason, he flashed signs of being a serious playmaker in the secondary, so I'd love to give him a shot as a starter before we go signing another FA.
  • Draft - Saying all that about Clemons, if Eric Berry is somehow, someway available when we pick in the first round, we absolutely have to take him no questions asked.  Other than that extremely unlikely scenario (Berry is projected as a top 5 pick by every single person on planet earth), I would be looking for a guy to compete with Clemons, someone like Major Wright from UF, or Earl Thomas from Texas, both of whom could be available in the 2nd round.  I would completely avoid Taylor Mays, because he looks like a workout warrior destined to fail for the Raiders

The Defense is still a work in progress, but seeing as how the Trifecta picked up 2 stud DE's in one draft, and 2 (possibly 3, pending Clemons development) studs in the secondary in the next, I have faith that they'll fix the issues we currently on the defensive side of the ball.  I have high hopes for the future of this D, with the deep DL, Wake becoming a monster off the edge, and our shut down tandem at CB leading the way. 

Just so you know, I have a lot more on tap for the new year, including the 2009 Matty's, The Phinsider Draft Summit (more on that as we get closer to it), and numerous offseason posts including Mock Drafts and Prospect Profiles.  Keep your eyes peeled, I'm back.

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nice

i think that tyron culver deserves a shot just like bell had in his 3rd year with us, we might still need a fs draftee but i think culver could at the very least be capable to play fs…even tho i think that g.wilson will be better next year after playing a whole year as a fs with us. clemons looks like he could be our starting fs in three years time (again it goes back to the “bell rule”, let them play for 3 years and start midway throughout)

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by miafins23 on Dec 17, 2009 3:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Culver hasnt been a bad project for us.

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by Patssuck456 on Dec 17, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post .. Rec'd

The Defense has definetly started to shape up these past couple of weeks and it has been great to see, it is making it harder and harder IMO to make any of these decsions yet based upon the recent success.

Now with that aside I think the only area that can be agreed upon is that we need help in the ILB spot and possibly the OLB spot as well. I like both Porter and Taylor but I just don’t know how much longer they will both hold up for … I personally hoping for another good season out of them both for the Dolphins. With regards to the ILB I think you hit it right on the head .. I really like Crowder and Akin but I just don’t knw if they are bringing enough to the table … once again another reason why I am glad to be a fan and not a GM.

You might see that I left out NT and FS … this is many due to the fact that I still feel these decisions will be based on the final three games, like it or not Wilson has been getting better after that terrible start and I think drafting or bringing someone else in would be a mistake. I think that if Clemons is good like you say he will be able to take the job away from him come the start of next season. I personallly have been very surprised by Paul’s play lately and would love to see ferg back … although in my heart I do see this area being addressed in the offseason.

by markus_13 on Dec 17, 2009 5:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice post

My take on probably the main focus of the Dolphin’s 2010 draft.

I’m pretty sure we’re going to take a NT or ILB for our first round pick, depending on who’s available when our pick comes around. Ferguson may want to come back next year, but he’s still going to be 36 next year. I would like to see us take an ILB who can become our new defensive leader, and push Crowder to the other ILB position. I just don’t believe Crowder has the talent or football IQ to lead a defense.

I think we’re set at DE and CB, with plenty of depth.

We’ll probably draft a OLB to add youth and depth to an aging position.

We’re set at SS, but that’s mainly because we have to very good SS’ in Bell and Wilson. The problem of course is neither is a true FS. I wouldn’t be suprised to see either of them on the trading block. I don’t think Clemons is ready to play FS in the NFL yet, which is why his stint as the starting FS only lasted two games (and it wasn’t even for the entire games). Whether they choose to go draft or FA depends on what’s available in either market.

Two other players I wouldn’t be suprised to see shopped around this offseason would be Crowder or Ayodele. I have a strong feeling this is going to be a very active offseason for the Dolphins FO.

by luvs2drnk on Dec 17, 2009 7:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wilfork would definitely be the stop gap.

Pun intended. If there was a way to get in on the secret coded (you know Parcell’s is doing it) messages being fed to Wilfork & agent it’d be a great way to save the draft pick.
Riddle me this; would it be wise to start two sophomore CB’s and a rookie S if we drafted one, next year?
After seeing almost all of the LB’s picked this year end up as starters, I guess we should have no worries there, either.
So who, on this team, do think will move to other teams.

Mind you, all this is coming from the mind of an O-line guy…

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 17, 2009 7:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Definitely rec'd

Great post nick and if you need any help on those new posts you having coming down the pipeline let me know (ill be your best friennnnnnnnnnnddddd)

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by Enhalen on Dec 17, 2009 7:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol definitely will

I could use a best friend haha

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post!!!!!!!!

I definately agree with you on all the needs we have and where to get the players we need..

I think the FO should go for a proven #1 WR in free agency and use our first round pick for an ILB..

Then address other needs through the draft

by scbrandon on Dec 17, 2009 8:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

A Phinsider draft summit!

Can’t wait.

I might be in the minority here but I think drafting a franchise nose tackle would be one of the best things to ever happen to this defense. I am from the “3-4 defense is only as good as its anchor” school, and while I really like what Soliai has done this year (especially the last two games), it would be nice to install another player like Dan Williams and run a platoon at the position (as well as use McDaniel in passing situations — love that strategy).

I’d like to take care of the inside linebacker position by adding Ryans or Dansby via FA and then look for OLB talent in the draft. And the nice thing about this draft is a lot of the premier OLBs will fall to the second round (except Kindle; he’s likely to blow up the combine in February.) I’d gladly take Hughes, Von Miller or Ricky Sapp as our second-round pick.

Dan Williams in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would love to pick up Ryans

I think that the guys is severely underrated!! I would love to have him beside Crowder leading our defensive attack.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 17, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dansby is on my wish list

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by Souwantmyname on Dec 18, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Miami always had elite Linebackers...

… Nick Buoniconti / A.J. Duhe / Bob Baumhower / Kim Bokamper / Charles Bowser / Robert Louis (Bob) Brudzinski / Hugh Green / John Offerdal / Brian Cox / Zach Thomas / and DE-LB Jayson Taylor, to name a few.

I want and the team NEEDS another elite Inside / outside bad-ass mo-fo. That guy may already be on the team (Wake) at outside, but more probable the inside backer will come thru the draft.

Is Daryl Sharpton like Zach Thomas? maybe? could be? Prolly in the 4th or 5th round like Zach was? The knock is his staying healthy.

I’m hoping for a shot at a NT and ILB in the first two rounds. Seems the middle of the defense is a major need this off season… NT, MLB and Safety. I don’t see Joey and Jason going anywhere next season and should be good enough at outside linebacker to maintain a superior defense next year. And then there’s Cameron Wake..!

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by Alpha6 on Dec 17, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure Sharpton is the genius that Zach was

but he’s fast (as you would expect coming out of UM), and that speed is something the D lacks right now. I think that would be more of an emergency option, or, if we feel like he can be a great complement to Crowder, a sleeper pick later in the draft. I would still go after a guy in FA or look to grab McClain or Spikes in the early rounds, but Sharpton is a guy to keep an eye on for sure.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The NT i dont think needs to be addressed as much since I can see this as Soliai’s trial by fire
and McDaniel’s can be a more than adequate back-up for him

Another thing you hit on that i STRONGLY agree on is someone to work along side Crowder. Crowder is not bad, he needs work on coverage though and thats why we need a ILB who can cover.

and FS, well Wilson has got to go

Cut Gibril Wilson!!

by dolfan0918 on Dec 17, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You realize Crowder doesnt make plays

he can’t cover or rush the passer.. it’s like the guy is immune to big plays (except when they hit him right in the gut)

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by Souwantmyname on Dec 18, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice job again! Rec'd

I agree with the general assessment, however I firmly believe that McDaniel is too tall to play NT. I can see that a lot of folks might contend that this doesn’t make a difference if he is talented and heavy, but I just want to remind folks about Daryl Gardener. He was 6-6 295, and played with his hand in the dirt at DT. He was very good for a short time, but developed back problems, in part from the position played. It was much more difficult for him to get low on opposing linemen than a guy that is 6-3. And that was at DT in a 4-3. A successful NT has to be lower than a 6-3 center on every play.
Now i realize that it doesn’t preclude McDaniel from playing the position, but in a 3-4, I see him better suited to play DE. His height in that position being an advantage as he goes up against taller OTs and has the height to take away passing lanes. Just my opinion.

That being said, I view NT as a HUGE need (pun intended). Soliai is serviceable, but the NT position makes this whole Defense go. A beast at NT allows pressure on the QB with a 3 man rush, and takes away the inside running lanes. That instantly makes our secondary and LB better. Ferguson is too old, although he would be a good backup/relief man if he were only asked to play 10-12 snaps a game.

I am not unhappy with our two CBs picked last year, but I still had NT at the top of my wish list then and see it as the overall team need next year.

LB and FS are givens, as well as WR. However, I would like to see us grab a Solid #1 WR in FA rather than take a chance in the draft. Maybe a LB or FS also, depending on what’s out there.

BTW, just want to point out that Ferg is not an elite NT. He is serviceable as well, but better than Soliai, which tells you where Soliai ranks. What we need is a Haynesworth or Wilfork type.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please don't mention the name Daryl Gardner

Ugh. Billy Milner. Daryl Gardner. Billy Milner. Daryl Gardner. AAAAAAHHHHHHH!

I like the idea of using McDaniel on passing downs where his height could interfere with the QBs vision. Our D line would resemble skyscrapers on third down.

And good point about Ferg not being elite at the position. I think our FO did a great of implementing serviceable veterans at positions of need, with the intent that they would draft young talent for those positions in the future. Now’s the time to anchor our 3-4 with a Hampton/Wilfork/Jamal Williams-caliber player and add strength and speed to our linebacker corps.

BTW, I think the Trifecta did the right thing eschewing the nose tackle position in the draft last year. Besides B.J. Raji, I don’t think there was anyone that comes even close to the NT talent in this coming draft.

Dan Williams in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't waste a pick on a NT, especially an early pick!

I have said this before and I will say it again, a NT is a part time player and you don’t draft part time players early. They are replaced on passing downs. They are replaced by personel groupings. They don’t rush the passer. NT’s are run stoppers in a passing league. If you need a fat guy to take up space and stuff running lanes, find that guy late or in FA.

I want a young, nasty, big hitting LB (maybe 2) in the upcoming draft. I don’t care what position they play, whether ILB, SOB, or WOB, just give me some guys who can make plays. We can talk about all the problems with this defense but there is no way the phins 3-4 defense will be anything but average with their current LB’s. It wouldn’t upset me one bit if there were 4 new starting LB’s for ’10.

by ct1361 on Dec 17, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree CT

except I like Crowder as a comp to a studly ILB. I wouldnt mind 3 new starting lbers next year

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by Blaze453 on Dec 17, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am actually fine with Crowder

Strong-side and inside linebacker are where I think we really need to improve right now. There’s a plethora of players in this draft who could play the position for us.

There’s plenty of areas we can address besides NT, but it’s important to pick someone up at that position. My sleeper candidate is Boo Robinson, who looks to be a mid-round pick.

Dan Williams in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We can also land an ILB and OLB in the first two rounds if we play our cards right

If that’s the direction this FO wants to go in. I am personally not thrilled with our linebacker play right now, so solidifying that area of the defense sounds wonderful right about now.

Dan Williams in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i would be totally okay with a LB with the #1

but i strongly disagree with you regarding the importance of that elite level NT. And you don’t get an elite level NT in the 6th round with an “oh, by the way” pick. You get them in the first round.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 17, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. I would say first or second.

I think I value the position more than some other people here, but unless we sign Vince Wilfork, I don’t want to cheap out on a position that in some ways can make or break a 3-4 defense.

And I don’t know if people have seen him yet, but Dan Williams is first-round talent. Any NT who can consistently penetrate an opposing backfield like that is a-ok in my book.

Dan Williams in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NT is a luxury pick

If and when the LB situation is straightened out for the phins, then spend a high pick on a NT if you must. 3-4 defenses need great LB’s to be great.

by ct1361 on Dec 18, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

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by Alpha6 on Dec 18, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree about the LB need.

but i completely disagree with your opinion about NT being a luxury.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 18, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea

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by samdaman on Dec 18, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Those LBs won't look so great if there's no NT to eat up blockers.

Good NTs eat up two to three blockers, allowing the LBs holes in the line to get at the RB/QB unblocked. Without one, he eats up only one blocker allowing OL and FBs to put blocks on the LBs. Then it doesn’t really matter how good your LBs are.

by luvs2drnk on Dec 19, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's true

I remember having that debate with you when we picked up McDaniel, agreeing that he was probably too tall to play that NT position, but I was just throwing options out there. NT is indeed a bigtime need, but I think you can also find a guy that can be good for you later in the draft. I don’t think your NT allows for a 3 man pass rush because most NT’s come out on passing downs in favor of a better rusher. So I’m really just looking for a big space-eater that can clog up the middle on run plays and keep the LB’s clean. I’m not sure you need to spend first round money on that kind of player.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i hear ya

but i have been watching the Fins when they are trying to get pressure on the QB with just three guys. They might not get a sack, but when they are successful, they prevent the QB from standing back there all day. they force him to throw the ball. And when they can push the pocket with the front three, it makes a pass rusher off the edge more effective.

Let’s face it; people talk all day about coming out on passing downs, but the only real “passing downs” are 3rd and 5 or longer. It’s not like every 3rd down is a passing down. and if we can’t pressure the QB on 1st and 2nd, you never get them into 3rd and long.

There are a lot of ways to go on D, but I think if you want to play primarily out of a 3-4, you have GOT to have that elite NT. That one guy will make the LBs and Secondary instantly better.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 17, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post

I learned a-lot of our defense just now. I feel a lot smarter thanks for the knowledge. Oh and Rec’d for breaking it down Barney style!!!

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by Weecho85 on Dec 17, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great Post Nicky!

You and I think a lot alike. I agree with everything you said, especially about Cody. If he isn’t the least productive All-American in the history of college football, then I don’t know who is. Anyone who drafts that guy wasted a pick.

Rec’d as usual. Nice Job!

by ct1361 on Dec 17, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol completely agree

unless.. is Carlos Dunlap an All-American?

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

atta boy nicky

rec’d u def share alot of my views

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by BSerious72 on Dec 17, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kick ass job Nicky

although alot of those FA NTS are 30+ years old.

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by Patssuck456 on Dec 17, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol

i read that at first glance as “Kiss ass job Nicky”

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 17, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you would Lefty

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by PhinsTifosi on Dec 17, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It did read like that...

… but Matty musta changed it ;-]

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by Alpha6 on Dec 17, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ah HA!

i suspected some such collusion!

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 17, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I know

there really aren’t any young NT’s hitting the market. Franklin is 30, and Pickett I believe is 27 or 28, so Pickett would definitely be the guy I would target off that list (unless of course Wilfork is available).

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good stuff as always

as far as NT goes, I think it depends on how Ferguson comes along. If he can make it back, I think we stand pat with him and Soliai for another season. If he can’t, then I think the most realistic option is Casey Hampton coming from Pitt. But he’s like 32 years old himself. So he’d be only a short-term fix.

Like you, I agree that we can’t take a NT in round 1. But we need to be careful not to undervalue the position. Is it part time? Yes. But it’s the most important part of a 3-4 defense.

by Matty I on Dec 17, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed!

NT makes the rest of the D go.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 17, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as far as OLB goes

I LOVE LOVE LOVE Kindle. I also love Hughes. But I think Kindle is more versatile, making him a favorite of mine.

by Matty I on Dec 17, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Someone here pointed out that Kindle is an ideal fit for us

And it’s true. We can line him up strong-side or play him off the edge. His bullrush technique is f’n ridiculous. Kindle is also fast enough to drop back into coverage.

Hughes is another favorite of mine.

Here’s a vid of these guys kicking holy ass. Kindle’s highlight reel is f’n frightening to watch. How in the hell do you block that guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpGTyVYmBXg

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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh - and Berry

Eric Berry is my dream pick. I’d give up our 1st and 2nd this year to move up into the top 5 to take Berry. He’s in the Ed Reed mold of FS and would instantly change this defense from the moment he walked onto the practice field.

by Matty I on Dec 17, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I believe it would take more than a 1st and 2nd this year to move up into top 5...

… and isn’t Very Berry a Strong Safety anyway..? The team needs a free safety, cause G. Wilson is a gonner..!

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by Alpha6 on Dec 17, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My bad...scouting reports have that he can play either position/scheme...

… versatility is key and one of his strong suits…

So yeah..! He will be unbelievable, whoever drafts him…

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by Alpha6 on Dec 17, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Eric Berry would instantly be the best player on our defense lol

no matter where he lined up. I have a feeling he’d be better than Crowder and Ayodele at ILB. He’s just a freak.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Job Nicky

Love reading your post on our needs and agree with most of the things you say. What I like the most is the insight you bring of the potential college draft picks for those positions. I have one real love, football and more specifically the Miami Dolphins. With a busy schedule I have to really balance my time and between trying to work, watching each Dolphins game three times to really break it down and keeping my wife as happy as I can without pissing her off with my Dolphin obsession. That means I don’t get to follow college ball the way I would like. So honestly my knowledge of draft picks is definitely not up to par with my pro knowledge. Keep up the good work brother and I looking forward to finding out what exactly a Phinsider Draft Summit is!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 17, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice work as always Nicky.

You and I are on the same page when it comes to our needs, especially the FS position. I’ve wanted Clemons to start since week 3 or 4.

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by joel311 on Dec 17, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

... but C. Clemons is listed as a Strong Safety...

… and the team needs a Free Safety…

How about Reshad Jones out of Georgia..?

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by Alpha6 on Dec 17, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

Clemons might be the fastest guy we have on the defensive side of the ball.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad he's cluless right now.

Hopefully in a year or two, he might actually be able to put that speed to good use.

by luvs2drnk on Dec 19, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post Nicky. Definately agree about Cody. Although he could be effective if used right -

He is in for 2 run downs, then he lays on the ground, refs call an injury TO, so trainers can get his fat ass off the field (meanwhile the rest of the D gets some rest and good play calling done), then the D is well set for the pass play to follow.

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Dec 17, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, & goo 4 U 2

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Dec 17, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cody will be fine if he can shed another 10 pounds

But there’s really no way he’ll be able to exist on an NFL defense at his current weight.

If I had any issue with Cody, though, it’s the fact Florida’s defensive line was taking him on one-on-one; that kind of play completely negates the entire two-gap philosophy people seem to have in place for him.

I am just open to all options right now. I won’t close off any scenarios until the season’s over and we have a better idea of what needs to be addressed early in the draft. Right now, though, I’ll consider anything — receiver, linebacker, nose tackle, C.J. Spiller, Etc. Whatever.

Dan Williams in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

*offensive line

Oops

Dan Williams in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

GREAT idea hahahaha

I love it, a timeout before every third down.. lol that gave me a good laugh

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

comprehensive

rec’d-able. like weech said, thanx for the knowledge.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Dec 17, 2009 4:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bravo Nicky! They keep getting better, maybe you should have done it in 10 parts, lol,

I’m not as down on our ILB as you are, if our OLB improve I think they will be fine, it’s a complicated system they run and these guys are starting to get it down and are subsequently playing better.

I love the idea of moving Clemons to FS, Gibril must go, either way this area must be addressed, I’m missing Hill for crying out loud.

I’m with Lefty on McDaniels at NT, I would rather go with the other alternatives you mentioned.

Really great job Nicky

by uncle finster on Dec 17, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great Post

agree with everything! especially that terrance cody is balls

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Dec 17, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yes yes yes yes

i’ve been preching this stuff.
i’d rec it twice if i could
nice job

draft this year is stacked defensively, and we need to take advantage of that.

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by samdaman on Dec 17, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no samory request? I am pleasantly surprised sam!

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Dec 17, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

.... that's what she said to him last night....

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by Alpha6 on Dec 17, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

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by Alpha6 on Dec 17, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey...

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by samdaman on Dec 18, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea, i read it all

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by samdaman on Dec 18, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

:-)

glad you enjoyed it sammy

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 18, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

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by samdaman on Dec 19, 2009 7:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bad root-for

if jax wins it makes their game with pats that much more important. The jags were never a threat after we beat them because if they had won out would mean we win east. Now with a jags loss and hope for playoffs about gone pats game not as important to them

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by Blaze453 on Dec 18, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

... it's a bad-ass December, no matter how you look at it..!

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by Alpha6 on Dec 18, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's kinda a loose-win for us

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by samdaman on Dec 18, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for another great breakdown.

I just wanted to add that the remainder of the season is do or die for 6 Dolphin defenders. Wilson, Bell, Ayodele, Anderson, Torbor and Crowder are all veterans (5+ years) who are responsible for the middle of the defensive backfield and they are failing miserably.

How is it possible that two safeties are the leading tacklers for this team? I took a look at the other teams that primarily run the 3-4 and all but 3 others have at least one ILB that will easily have well over 100 tackles. I’m sure you can guess which are more successful.

I expect the first round pick will address this issue.

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by paulymcmac on Dec 17, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Only person in the world defending Gibril

I think Wilson is very good. I just don’t thing he’s a FS. Wilson and Bell are both very good TRUE SS’s. Our schemes this season have both of them playing 20 yards back. I like the idea of getting Clemons in there.

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by sister_ray on Dec 18, 2009 12:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i like gibril

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by samdaman on Dec 18, 2009 7:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

... she meant the guy playing safety, not the little Gerbil animal you're fond of... LOL!!!

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by Alpha6 on Dec 18, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

didn't you get the memo?

we all agreed (except DIB), his new name is Gerbil, until he makes a play.
=)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 18, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I miss it... but LOL! it makes great sense...

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by Alpha6 on Dec 18, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

she?

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by samdaman on Dec 18, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You may be right

he would probably be much more effective as a SS. My biggest concern with that line of thinking though, is his poor tackling this year. SS’s are supposed to be great tacklers, so at least if he was bad in coverage but making tackles, I’d agree with you. Just seems like he’s struggled at all aspects of the game.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 18, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How is someone a poor tackler if they're second on the team in tackles?

If that’s the case, wouldn’t it make the rest of the team worse than he is? Especially since he’s a safety, and most of his tackling chances come because somebody else didn’t make the tackle. But he is technically a SS, and one of the main problems is the defensive schemes they’re using. If they just kept him back there and forced him to play FS, he might have adapted by now. Unfortunately, they keep bringing him up in run/coverage support due to the poor play of the ILB. So he’s basically still playing as a SS, but occasionally asked to drop back as a FS.

by luvs2drnk on Dec 19, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well that's why he's second in the league in tackles

Because he gets that many opportunities since backs pass our second level. And when he’s backing Vontae he gets opportunities because Vontae has lapses here and there where he allows the completion and loses position due to over-aggression/rookie mistakes.

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by Dave.Phuller on Dec 19, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They did put Clemons in.

It lasted one and a half games till he was demoted. He’s not ready yet.

by luvs2drnk on Dec 19, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love these posts.

Yet another reason why I will be checking Phinsider daily until I am old and gray.

We need a Polamaulu, Ed Reed type FS. Unfortunately, you can’t just order those studs up.

NT is essential! We need to stop the run in order to take away serious play action.
Pass rush is next. Agree that JT and JP are gaining speed on the downslope. Give Wake a partner in crime soon.

by Fins4evr72 on Dec 19, 2009 8:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

good work man, rec'd

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