The first Todd McShay mock draft is out today, and he has us taking ...
by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 2:08 PM EST
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Golden Tate at #21.
Well, I didn't see that one coming. He projects it as a bit of a reach, which I would completely agree with. I am neither for or against this pick right now, since I believe our offense really does need a big-time play-maker at wideout -- I am just unsure Golden Tate can be that player for us.
Still, I am curious to see how many 2010 mock drafts have us taking a receiver.
As I've basically predicted from the start, McClain doesn't make it out of the top 10. However, it's interesting that only one nose tackle is projected in the first round, and it's Dan Williams going #32 to New Orleans. This is the first draft I've seen omit Terrence Cody out of the first round (I can already hear Nicky saying, "Because he sucks."), and I wonder if this is a trend that we'll see all through the offseason.
Thoughts?
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I will be stunned if the FO takes a WR in round 1
I just don’t see it happening. I think they will draft defense, again.
I would have to agree with Nicky on Cody. Cody is the most unproductive college all american maybe in the history of all americans. I just don’t see it with him. You could find a guy in round 6 or 7 who will do just as good a job as Cody. Anyone who drafts him will have wasted a pick.
by ct1361 on Dec 16, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was just going to say,
We didn’t draft a receiver last season in the first round, and I don’t see it happening again.
Unfortunately I don’t see McClain falling to us, but I’d even almost rather have Dan Williams than Golden Tate. I just see us taking defense once again. Hell, I could even almost see us trading down over drafting Golden Tate.
Second round, maybe.
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by Dave.Phuller on Dec 16, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm totally on the draft Golden Tate Bandwagon, but...
We need an ILB in the first round. Brandon Spikes, anyone??
But I would love to grab him in this draft maybe 2nd but more likely 3rd round. For some odd reason I feel he’s going to be available late second round early third due to he’s not combine “sexy”. I see a lot of teams looking at him as more of a slot or #2. Slots or #2’s aren’t first round draftees as we all now.
Also, it looks like the tuna is going to be here for the long haul and with that said he’ll be overseeing the draft. As we all know he hasn’t drafted an ILB yet and he’s definitely due. Also it’s no secret he doesn’t draft WR’s in the first round, gosh Mcshay of all people should know that!
But man to have DaBess, Ronnie Brown, and Tate lining up in formation would be too much for my heart. He’s got the brains and acumen of Hartline (Notre Dame) and agility and a bit more speed than DaBess! He’s also definitely a “Parcells Guy” super smart and extremely hard working. Like I said I’m on the band wagon cause love what he brings to the table, is the prototypical Parcells guy and will most likely be available for the dolphins on draft day cause I think he’ll fall to the third round.
by jesavius on Dec 16, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
agree spikes would be a good pick up
address LB/DT at 1
WR round 2
Safety at round 3
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by BSerious72 on Dec 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LB/DT? in the first round?
LB yes but DT can wait til 2nd or 3rd at latest
We need a FS or LB in the 1st
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by dolfan0918 on Dec 17, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Spikes but......
I heard he is not the best coverage LB, and thats what we need at ILB. he is smart but if he cant defend against the pass he maybe another Channing Crowder (God I hope not). I just want to draft a Ray lewis type guy into our LB corps. If not a LB defitnely a NT. We need one bad. I to shore up our rotation at DT until he is ready to take the job fulll time. Also defense will defitnetly be drafted in the first two rounds. But crazier things have happened, no one reallly saw Pat White being drafted as high as he did and especailly by us, ya know.
by esco6781 on Dec 17, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we were to go WR in round 1 and Dez Bryant was gone already
I’d prefer Benn from Illinois before Tate – at least as of now.
by Matty I on Dec 16, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by BSerious72 on Dec 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd definitely take Benn over Tate
Better speed and size. Benn’s route-running needs work, but he’s a TD waiting to happen when he gets his hands on the ball.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to draft a WR rd 1
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by Neo on Dec 16, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
unless if Dez Bryant is available
we should get a WR off FA
by finzrule on Dec 16, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
problem is production
Parcells seems to like production over potential especially in round 1
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by Blaze453 on Dec 16, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. He wants his #1 pick on the field as soon as possible
And wideout is a position that can take a while to develop (see: Patrick Turner).
My sleeper receiver in this draft is Mike Williams, so if we pass on Benn and Damian Williams in the second round, we might look for the former Orangeman in round three.
I should mention that I think Patrick Turner is going to be an outstanding receiver for us. I can understand why our FO would be hesitant to put a developing player like him on the field when we are in a playoff hunt.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love the idea of picking up the kid from Syracuse in the later rounds. Over half the people I talk to – who have followed him at all – have him as the only other WR in the draft as talented as D. Bryant.
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what about the kid from Georgia Tech, supposdely hes a beast. And if hes available maybe we pick him up in the 3rd or 4th. I doubt it, I still think we should have drafted Louis Murphy instead.
by esco6781 on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're thinking of Demaryius Thomas
and he’s a complete freak athletically, but will take about 3-4 years to develop, possibly more, because he doesn’t run routes. He runs straight upfield. That’s it. He’s about as unpolished as you can get for a WR, and would end up inactive for most of the first few years of his career.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he had a bad senior year, he may fall into the second
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by Patssuck456 on Dec 16, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm taking Benn in the 1st if I have that pick
if anything Benn just take ove Ginn’s role of just running Go route’s the first year. The reason Turner isnt playing right now is because he hasnt learned to get separation from NFL corners. Benn has the pure speed that will get him on the field early
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 16, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt mind him at all
and he offcially declared
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/16/illinois-benn-declares-for-draft
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by Patssuck456 on Dec 16, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitetly.
Benn is looking that dude, and in my opinion he seems more like a Parcell’s guuy. Stocky frame who gets the YAC. I am not on the Tate bandwagon at all, we have enough 5ft11 in receivers, Benn is 6’2 and weighs 215, and he will probably put on 10-15 lbs of muscle as he develops in his career. And..he is a beast.
by TEC75 on Dec 16, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Link????
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or, can you copy/paste the mock?
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pick #21
isnt that the pick for the team with the best record not making the playoffs? What a commie b’tard.
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by Phintastic on Dec 16, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The rankings are based on current standings
We would pick at #21 if the draft were today.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say that
we will probably go for Dan Williams in the first round, and if we draft a WR this year, I think it would be in the 2nd round at the earliest. And that is only if they are looking to pick up Arrelious Benn. Just my 2 cents.
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by Chupathingy on Dec 16, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here's the link
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4730972
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, sir. Funny timing :^p
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry about that
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I'll do it
1. St. Louis — DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
2. Tampa Bay — S Eric Berry, Tennessee
3. Cleveland — DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech
4. Detroit — DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma
5. Kansas City — OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State
6. Oakland — DE Carlos Dunlap, Florida
7. Washington — QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
8. Denver (from Chicago) — LB Rolando McClain, Alabama
9. Seattle — OT Trent Williams, Oklahoma
10. Buffalo — OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers
11. San Francisco — CB Joe Haden, Florida
12. Pittsburgh — OT Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
13. San Francisco (from Carolina) — DE/LB Sergio Kindle, Texas
14. Houston — S Earl Thomas, Texas
15. Tennessee — DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida
16. Atlanta — LB Navorro Bowman, Penn State
17. Baltimore — WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State
18. Jacksonville — LB Bruce Carter, North Carolina
19. Giants — LB Brandon Spikes, Florida
20. Jets — OT Bryan Bulaga, Iowa
21. Miami — WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame
22. Arizona — TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
23. Seattle — QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame
24. Dallas — S Taylor Mays, USC
25. New England — DE/LB Ricky Sapp, Clemson
26. Green Bay — RB C.J. Spiller, Clemson
27. Cincinnati — DT Marvin Austin, North Carolina
28. Philadelphia — OT Vladimir Ducasse, Massachusetts
29. San Diego — RB Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech
30. Minnesota — DT Brian Price, UCLA
31. Indianapolis — DT Jared Odrick, Penn State
32. New Orleans — DT Dan Williams, Tennessee
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the WR class isnt as deep as last years
but still solid. Dez is the man though, and WR’s have fallen before. If he is there, HE IS the PLAYMAKER we cannot pass up. If not, I say address LB or DT
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by BSerious72 on Dec 16, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If this is how the draft plays out...
then I’d prefer to trade down. Otherwise, I would go with Spiller, Benn, or Tate. I’m hoping either Dez Bryant or one of the LBs will fall (McClain, Kindle, Spikes, or Bowman, in that order).
by kcorona4 on Dec 16, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boy
If Taylor Mays and C.J. Spiller are both there when we draft, I’ll be upset because we’ll likely pass on both.
We apparently just miss Spikes too.. thank God mocks are never close.
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by Dave.Phuller on Dec 16, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually, McShay's first round mocks are usually pretty close
but his mock will undoubtedly change from now until the draft
by kcorona4 on Dec 16, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always feel like McShay's first couple of mocks are heavily influenced by other drafts
He had us taking a WR this time last year, then shit the bed in late-Feb. and had us taking Connor Barwin, then had us taking Brian Cushing, then had us back to Hakeem Nicks.
I must say Hakeem was the only other player I really wanted besides Vontae Davis. I practically had dreams about Nicks and Ginn playing together.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if only last year's WRs were in this year's draft..
I"d take Nicks or Britt over Tate or Benn in a heartbeat
by kcorona4 on Dec 16, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny you mention Harvin
I spent a fair amount of time on the NFL.com Dolphins draft board (Sorry — I didn’t know the Phinsider existed at the time), and none of the Dolphins fans there wanted to touch Harvin with a 10-foot pole. I also took an unbelievable amount of grief for suggesting we should draft Vontae Davis.
I think the reason people are spraying in their shorts over Tate is because he is a similar player to Percy Harvin (not as fast as Harvin, of course, but similar in playmaking ability).
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too. I posted several essay length endorsements of Harvin on the finheaven message boards, and got lambasted for him being “another ginn”.
Except he can line up at RB, has great hands, can break tackles and generally doesn’t play like he wears skirts
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Dec 17, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like Benn better than Britt or Nicks. Don’t think we’ll look into him, though, unless it’s in the 2nd.
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he'll likely be there in the second
He’s not going to show up to the combine and run a 4.3 or anything, so I wouldn’t expect him to set the world on fire with any workouts he might do.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Benn has just as much potential as them
but I also think think he has a greater chance of being a bust. Mostly because his talent is more of a mystery since his college offense has held him back.
by kcorona4 on Dec 16, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hakeem and davis were the 2 guys i wanted badly
now look at both of em
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by BSerious72 on Dec 17, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but
I am glad we drafted Vontae. WR was a serious need, but now with Vontae and sean we have a CB tandem that can last 10 years together. Another patrick Surtain/ Sam Madison
by esco6781 on Dec 17, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If that were to be the order
we had better take taylor mays but he’s def not dropping that far
by Phincent on Dec 17, 2009 2:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mays is a SS
we dont need anotherone thank you
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by Blaze453 on Dec 17, 2009 3:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
he is a 6’3 230 lbs Free safety that runs a 4.3 forty and has been compared to the late Sean taylor for his hitting style.Sign me up!
by Phincent on Dec 17, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No way Mays runs a legit 4.3, but we'll see at the combine
also, I think he played pretty soft this year.
He used to be an elite pick but I really don’t think its the case anymore. He’ll be an impact player but he’s no top ten pick.
by NorthernHaze on Dec 17, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He really should have come out last year
I had no idea why he thought USC was going to compete for a national title this season.
He’ll be a decent free safety under the right coaching, but he’s a faster Roy E. Williams if he doesn’t receive the right tutelage at the pro level.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And the rumor is he ran a 4.2
Of course, that’s according to Pete Carroll, who has his head so far up his ass, I am surprised he’d even have time to check out Mays’ 40-yard dash results.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing I've heard about Mays says he can't run that 4.3
but, the good thing is, if he does run a 4.3, Oakland is DEFINITELY drafting him and all the good players will drop one pick lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ding ding!!!
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by Blaze453 on Dec 19, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the problem
Sean Taylor was a great football player as well as a phenomenal athlete. Taylor Mays is only one of those things, and it isn’t the football part. He has terrible ball skills, takes bad angles, is an extremely poor tackler, and really has no instincts for the game. I’ve never seen such a ballyhooed (love that word) safety get such a horrible jump on the ball. His speed makes up or it most times, but that’s college, and that half second it takes for him to realize where to go will get him killed at this level. I’m all for passing him up completely when we draft.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see us taking a receiver, either. It's just not the Parcells way
But I think you’ll see a lot of mock drafts steering us in the direction of a wideout.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Dan Williams is the guy I think we’ll draft. He reminds me a lot of Casey Hampton.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've also predicted that Dez Bryant will be the only receiver guaranteed to go in the first round
So I am surprised that of all the receivers available, McShay would choose Tate to land in the first round. I personally think Damian Williams is a much stronger receiving prospect than Golden.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes parcells way is to not take WR's early
which is why we are in the position were in now.. alot of 2nd tier WR’s that lack that playmaking potential. Our biggest need on offense right now is a go-to WR. Since this draft is so weak on WR we need to snag one up in the first.
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 16, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we were trading up to get Sam Bradford????
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 16, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ha. If we're lucky ...
Anyone else relieved that we actually don’t have to scrutinize draft QBs this year?
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
three
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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by PhinsTifosi on Dec 17, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some (available) players from the list that we should take instead of Tate:
TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
S Taylor Mays, USC
DE/LB Ricky Sapp, Clemson
RB C.J. Spiller, Clemson
RB Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech
DT Dan Williams, Tennessee
. . .
Now, I don’t even love all of these players, but they’re all more useful to us that a #2 (if he’s lucky) WR.
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And, that doesn’t even take into account players that should be in the first that Todd’s – stupidly – left off.
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Sapp a lot. He'll probably plop into the second round, but he's a perfect 3-4 edge-rush LB
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t complain about drafting Williams, but I’d rather have a great edge rusher to put opposite Wake next season, and then draft Cody in the 2nd. Of course, we’d still need an ILB, but I think the kid from Kentucky will still be there in the 3rd, and I like him about as much as I like Spikes.
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Micah Johnson
he is definitely a sleeper at LB.. not too many people realize he was a 5 star LB coming out high school. Why he chose to play in the black hole of the SEC is confounding
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 16, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d definitely rather have him in the 3rd than Spikes in the 1st or 2nd.
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by sister_ray on Dec 16, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would probably take Johnson over Spikes, too
I actually think Micah is as good a COVERAGE LB as McClain is.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
but i think his stock will rise between now and the draft. we’ll probably have to take him in the 2nd round (which i’d gladly do)
by kcorona4 on Dec 16, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It'll be interesting to whose draft stock blows up between now and Feb.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he was a beast in high school
i live in clarksville, tn so thats basically all you heard about was micah johnson, and ricky lumpkin (who graduated from the same school as me 2 years before me). both won mr football for kentucky and tennessee. though micah has been extremely more productive due to ricky being injury prone ….and micah chose to play at kentucky because thats where his brother was playing.
by donaldhall19 on Dec 17, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
where does he play
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by BSerious72 on Dec 17, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
Yes we need a wideout but i would much rather have, say Brandon Spikes at MLB and try and pick up a WR in the second round, where i think most teams will be picking them in this draft. And even then you can probably wait until the 3rd round to grab one, we need to upgrade our LB squad ,JT and Peezy are getting up there and Akin can be upgraded also, plus i think the Phins need a vet WR, because no one has any idea how any of these guys will turn out, and i don’t want to wait 3 year for someone to maybe develop.
by phinsfan777 on Dec 17, 2009 5:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
why is everyone so down on Cody? Dude is a beast….he is dbl/triple teamed every play.
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by Rzayo24 on Dec 16, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am probably one of the few people here who actually likes Cody
And I especially like the idea of drafting him in the second, since at that point there’s a bit less risk involved in taking a boom-or-bust player like him.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But I am in no way opposed to drafting Cody
Not yet, at least.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Spiller is on the board...
and you dont take him…at that value…..you have no diea what your doing. This kid has the talent to be a MAJOR FACTOR in a football game….hes the kinda playmaker we need. Ricky will be gone after his rookie year…and who knows on ronnie..
CJ Spiller is equal to about 10 Leon Washingtons….put it that way.
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by Rzayo24 on Dec 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nicky and I talked about this a few nights ago
If you’re The Trifecta and Spiller falls to you, do you consider going BPA?
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by kmb8488 on Dec 16, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Spiller has to be taken if he falls past the 20's
I have a feeling he’ll be taken alot sooner.. my money is on KC or Seattle. Then both teams could form their offense off of fast scatbacks. Since KC has a speedy back in Charles and Seattle has Justin Forsett
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 16, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for sure...
i was at the UM/Clemson game and no one can guard that guy, just to fast and imagine him and ronnie in the wildcat.
by phinsfan777 on Dec 17, 2009 5:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry
But that game is bad example, I am huge Miami fan and I even will say that the defense of THE U was suspect at best.
by esco6781 on Dec 17, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But Miami has NFL level speed
and Spiller made that whole team look slow. He made most of the country look slow this year. He has Chris Johnson level potential
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah rizzy might be right
he’s not a need but we all knocked harvin (including me) and guys like him and Chris Johnson are just so athletic that they find ways to score. Imagine having Ronnie the bruiser and Spiller on sweeps from the wildcat?!
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Knocked Harvin
I BEGGED this site to believe me about Harvin….Matty and I pretty much said well see
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by Rzayo24 on Dec 18, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i beilived in harvin
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by samdaman on Dec 18, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't want nobody on the team named "golden tate"
sounds like a new Ore-Ida potato product
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 16, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm really not that big of a college football fan...
However, I know some of the players and I say we get Dez. However, Parcells hates drafting WR’s in the 1st round.
But if we feel that a team is about to draft Dez, we should trade them our first, Ginn, and Turner to get the pick.
However, I see us getting our star WR in FA. I don’t know who, but I know we’ll get one.
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by Kdog92 on Dec 16, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the way todd's draft sets up
you either take Spillner or trade down 5-10 spots and snag williams or Cody. Personally I hope either McClain or Spikes is there or Bowman even being a penn st lb
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by Blaze453 on Dec 16, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
For everybody who wants C.J. Spiller..
he would be a great pick..and we could argue that we are drafting for depth. Think about Spiller, ronnie, ricky, and cobbs all in the wildcat somehow!
But idt we would have a chance at getting Spiller. He may be dynamic, and I think he will be waaaaaaaay better than Reggie Bush, but in the end the Trifecta will pick up somebody on the defensive side of the ball. They do not have a good track record of picking offensive skill players in the first round.
Spiller would be my choice in the 1st round if Dez was not still there, because I think the draft is deep in all of our other needs.
What is your honest opinion on Spiller?
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by dolphin341 on Dec 16, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would be surprised if....
The trio take a WR in the first round. They know we need that big playmaker, but when has Bill taken a WR in the 1st. Never…we have a lot of other holes to fill for the long term. WE all know how WR’s take some time…some of them. We could go Linebacker…a play maker..someone who can cover the wes welkers of the world. We don’t have like backers that can cover. None of them can… But none the less I’m excited about our options, should be in the thick of things..20+ I think we might get a WR in the 2nd, but we might go TEnd there. Who knows with our trio…but we trust them don’t we? yes.
by Phins4life2334 on Dec 16, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ew
Tate? Really? In the first? Then again, he does have Clausen, the best QB in the draft, falling to 23, Bradford, a spread QB with a weak arm to begin with, coming off 2 shoulder injuries, going 7. He’s also got Carlos Dunlap, the laziest player in the country going 6 (albeit, going to Oakland, which could probably happen). I don’t understand how he has Jacksonville taking a virtually unknown LB (over hometown guy Spikes, no less), when their cheif concern is trying to sell tickets. I don’t really agree with a whole lot in that mock, including QB-starved STL going with a DT (after taking DL 2 of the last 3 years).
I have to say I’d be really mad if we took Tate at that pick, with Spiller on the board, as well as Damian Williams and Arrelious Benn available (and better). I’ve seen Tate play, and he’s a combo RB/WR, something that Spiller is better at by a good margin. But this is McShay, and he’s got a ton of good college players that don’t project well, mixed in with a bunch of soon-to-be workout warriors. Thanks for posting, I love laughing at some of these..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 16, 2009 11:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know you're a HUGE fan of Todd McShit
I pretty much gave up on this mock when I saw he had Dunlap going that high, but I posted it anyway because at least it gives us something to talk about.
The only thing I like about Tate is he reminds me of a faster O.J. McDuffie (all-time fave player). That’s about it, though. I think I am more interested in cementing the front seven in the early rounds of 2010.
Unless something crazy happens for us (like Vince Wilfork coming to town, for example), I am sticking with the Vols’ NT as my #1 pick.
Dan Williams in 2010!
by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Tate well I am an Irish fan but
even though he is 5"11 he has a great vert and can catch balls over corners who are 6"2-3
kid without a doubt is a playmaker but I hate to say it cause I love Tate but I would rather have a guy like Benn we need that big physical type of wideout but 85% of mocks I have seen so far have us taking Cody the other 15 said Williamsand I would not argue with taking a NT or a LB like Spikes with the first pick but if we do have plans to take a wideout then we better make the right move cause we dont need another Ginn 2.0
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by Foy on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
kmb8488 you have the COOLESt avatar!!!
I love dexter and can you believe the season finale!!?!?
Do our recievers exist? Ginn crawls out the hole, Bess is stumbling but hope is not lost.
Gibril i like you and imma let you finish the season but, Ed Reed is the best safety of all time, of all time!!
by dolfan0918 on Dec 17, 2009 1:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
And yeah, the season finale was ridiculous. It’s funny because both my girlfriend and I hated Rita, but when Dexter found her at the end of the episode, we were both like, “No!!! Not Rita!!!”
At least he won’t have anymore of his kills interrupted by phone calls from her asking him to pick up tampons from Publix on the way home.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather go FA or trade for a #1 WR,
simply to get a proven player and focus on other areas in the draft.
by uncle finster on Dec 17, 2009 2:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
what about
brandon marshall, if he chooses not to re-sign with the broncos?
by donaldhall19 on Dec 17, 2009 2:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
as if
21 receptions wasnt clear enough. hahaha just a thought though.
by donaldhall19 on Dec 17, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And he may hit the market
he was severely unhappy before the season, and although he’s saying the right things now, I think he’ll be looking for greener pastures come the offseason (especially if Denver collapses their way out of the playoffs). I’m starting to come around on him from my previous stance (don’t want the headache) because I have faith in Sparano and Co. to reign in his personality and get the most out of him. He’s definitely tops on the list of potential FA’s at the WR position for me.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 3:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
omg i would give my left nut for Brandon Marshall!
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by BSerious72 on Dec 17, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope Denver is not stupid, if the give him up (BIG IF) they will franchise him and try to trade him. He will draw a #1 pick easily and Denver has no proble m taking teams first round picks, ask Chicago.
by esco6781 on Dec 17, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. Just look at how good he's made Kyle Orton seem this season
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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interestingly, Mel Kiper lists Tate as a more polished receiving prospect that Harvin
I am intrigued to see what Golden runs at the combine. He’s a second round pick right now, but if he shows up and runs mid-4.4, he’s going in the first round.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've watched him
and I watched Harvin. Tate isn’t on that level speed-wise, no matter what the 40 says.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 17, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On walter Football it has us taking Benn in the 2nd.
by esco6781 on Dec 17, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
we need to pick defense
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by samdaman on Dec 17, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey. I was wondering what happened to you
Dan Williams in 2010!
by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I totally agree
I hope we settle our WR via FA so we can just load up on defensive talent in this draft.
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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
we have pleanty of young recievers who need a veteran presence.
our defense has pleanty of vets, and needs some young guys up front.
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by samdaman on Dec 17, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Sam.
I definitely think that we should get a NT in round 1, I like Dan Williams better than Cody. Get some more depth there and give him a year to learn from Feruson before he retires. If he’s available in the 2nd round, I would take Benn, even if we did get a #1 in FA. It wouldn’t be bad to have 2 dynamic playmaking receivers on the team, and since it usually takes a couple years for a WR to develop, this would give us either a replacement or a compliment for our FA wideout acquisition.
But after that, I think we need to use the rest of the draft for the defense, and shore up our LB and FS.
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by Chupathingy on Dec 17, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd take williams or cody
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by samdaman on Dec 17, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My dream scenario right now is Williams in the first round, Jerry Hughes in the second round
And if Hughes isn’t available, Ricky Sapp or Eric Norwood.
I like players from South Carolina …
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by kmb8488 on Dec 17, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that sounds good to me
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by samdaman on Dec 18, 2009 7:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Golden Tate should be a Dolphin
what’s up Phin Fans…this is my first time posting on the Phinsider so show some love ha
I couldn’t agree with some of you more on drafting our “GOLDEN” ticket.Tate is the kind of fottball player Parcell loves.Tate is no DIVA and plays harder then most players I’ve seen.Tate is Mr YAC…he can turn plays into TDs.Not only does Tate have great hands, but you wont ever see him run out of bounds.Tate will get us that extra yard…playing with heart and toughness every game(unlike Ginn).Some people say he’s to short to be a number 1…I would say those people are crazy…Tates vertical makes up for his so called lack of height.Miami needs a real play maker, and Golden Tate can change a game.He always seems to make the BIG play.This Guy has the skills,heart,and attitude to help change a team.Lets not forget that he has only played WR for two year and will only get better every year.One more skill set Tate has that makes him even better for Our Dolphins is his ability to play in the WILDCAT…I think we would be stupid to pass him up.
If I could have the draft my way…
1.Golden Tate or Spiller(depending on what we do with Ronnie)…maybe one of them will drop to the second round.After that its all about Defense.We have to draft Tate though!
As far as FA…we should do everything we can to get Demeco Ryans from the Texans.He’s a serious stud and good leader.
If we decided to get a WR through FA/trade and not the Draft..
1.I would do anything to get Andre Johnson, but I don’t see him leaving the Texans.He’s the best WR in the NFL and a team would be crazy to let him go.
2.The other FA WR I would love to get is Brandon Marshall
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by Downer12 on Dec 18, 2009 7:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As far as Golden Tate being to "Short" to be a number 1 WR...wasnt Zach Thomas to small to be a LB in the NFL ha
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by Downer12 on Dec 18, 2009 7:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
and wasn't ted ginn to small to be...o wait, nevermind
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