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Defense leads the way as Dolphins defeat Jaguars

This is the time of the year where you take wins any way you can get them. While it wasn't pretty at all and sure was stressful at times, the Dolphins went up to Jacksonville and knocked off a Jaguars team that had just one home loss all season heading into Sunday, improving to 6-0 in December under head coach Tony Sparano.

In doing so, the Dolphins did what they were looking to do - make next week's game in Tennessee against the Titans yet another important must-win game as they look to work their way into the playoffs. As for the playoff picture itself, there's some info about that below. But enjoy the fact that as Dolphin fans, we have yet another meaningful December football game to look forward to. After starting 0-3, that's all us fans can ask for.

Just keep winning. Pretty or ugly. Big win or nail-biter. Doesn't matter to me. Just keep winning.

It's all about the defense
Earlier this week, we talked about how important it would be to contain Maurice Jones-Drew. He's the most explosive player on that Jacksonville offense and the Dolphins were struggling against the run over the past few weeks. Heading into the game, the Dolphins were allowing an average of 127 rushing yards per game and 4.9 yards per carry over their last five. But on Sunday, we saw this Miami defense make a stand. Actually, we saw them make multiple stands, holding Jones-Drew to just 59 yards rushing (3.3 ypc) in the process.

Perhaps the most impressive stat on Sunday, though, was how the Dolphins held the Jaguars to just 4/17 on third or fourth down. That's ridiculous, really. And it's just proof of how dominant this defense was and of why this game really shouldn't have been as close as it was.

Quite frankly, we saw this Dolphin defense dominate on Sunday. It's that simple. The Jaguars had just 217 yards of offense. Of that total, 63 yards came on one play. On that play, Sean Smith did a poor job of biting on the double move. But it's important to note that Gibril Wilson was really the guy who blew the coverage. He was supposed to have inside contain in that bracket coverage. But he also "took the cheese" of the Torry Holt double move, allowing Holt to make the big play. Of course, the defense rebounded by holding Jacksonville to a field goal on that drive.

The Jags gained 68 yards on that drive. They also gained 62 yards on their third possession of the game - which ended on a MJD touchdown run. But on Jacksonville's 10 other possessions, the Jaguars gained just 87 yards of offense and averaged just 2.4 yards per play. Those 10 possessions include the Jaguars going "3 and out" on 6 of their first 8 possessions. That, my friends, is domination.

The defense also put together their second consecutive scoreless fourth quarter. In doing so, the Dolphins limited Jacksonville's offense to just 57 yards of offense on four fourth quarter possessions. That's how you win football games even when your offense sputters in the second half. Kudos to every single player on that defense (except for maybe Gibril Wilson) for an outstanding performance.

Star-divide

The "Henne to Camarillo" connection
All season long, I've been waiting (and hoping) to see the Greg Camarillo we saw last season before he went down with his knee injury. On Sunday, I saw that Camarillo. It was a terrific sight to see.

Camarillo picked on this Jaguar secondary all game long, catching all seven passes that were thrown his way for 110 yards. This was Camarillo's best game since the game against Denver last season. And now after just catching three passes from week 10 against Tampa through week 12's loss to Buffalo, it seems as though Chad Henne is finally getting more comfortable with Camarillo - who has 11 catches for 171 yards over his last two.

Speaking of Henne, he's progressing pretty nicely, huh? No Dolphins quarterback has ever completed more consecutive passes in a game than Henne did on Sunday when he connected on 17 straight pass attempts - tying a team record set by Chad Pennington last season. But CP did it over the span of two games. And five of those 17 completions went to none other than the aforementioned Camarillo.

Yes, I know Henne also threw what could have been a costly fourth quarter interception. But again - I'm not too worried about it. I've seen enough from Henne to know that he'll learn from that mistake and he'll get better. The kid's gotten better every week. His accuracy is getting more consistent as the weeks go by. He looks more and more in command of this offense every time he steps on the field. And really, that interception was just a poor read - something he'll fix when he sees the film. But all in all, I continue to be impressed week in and week out with Henne - who is now 7-3 as a starting quarterback.

AFC Playoff Picture
For the Dolphins, it's pretty simple. First of all, they have to win their last three games. If they slip up, then it'll be very hard to squeak into the playoffs.

But the Dolphins can't get into the playoffs by just winning their last three. They need some help. In a nut shell, the Dolphins need either a Patriots loss OR a Ravens loss. If the Dolphins win out and NE was to lose once, the Fins would be division champs. If the Dolphins win out AND the Pats win out, then the Dolphins would need the Ravens to lose one game. If that was to happen, the Dolphins make it in as a wildcard.

So that's the situation. Three Dolphins wins AND either a Patriots loss OR a Ravens loss and the Fins are in the post-season.

QUICK HITS
More random quick thoughts on Sunday's win:

  • Interesting stat courtesy of Ethan Skolnick. The Dolphins faced 15 offensive 3rd downs. But their average distance "to go" on 3rd down was just 4.4 yards. And on 10 of those 3rd downs, the Dolphins needed just 3 yards or less. That's how you keep the chains moving. You put yourself in manageable 3rd downs by gaining positive yardage on first and second downs.
  • Ricky Williams went over 100 yards rushing for the fourth time in five games. But that doesn't overshadow his three fumbles. Luckily only one resulted in a turnover. But that one turnover cost the Dolphins at least a field goal attempt. This is nothing new with Ricky, though. Williams has fumbled 45 times on 2,422 career touches - or one fumble every 53.8 touches.
  • Speaking of mistakes, this game should not have been this close. But the Dolphins left so many points on the field. I think back to the terrible play call to hand the ball to Davone Bess on an end-around on first down from Jacksonville's 33 yard line. Terrible call there when Chad Henne was slicing up that Jaguar secondary and Bess isn't the guy who can turn the corner. Bess ends up fumbling and that stalls a drive that could have resulted in at least three points. On their next possession, a sack and a missed 38 yard field goal from Dan Carpenter (it was bound to happen eventually) squandered away another potential scoring drive. And then Ricky's fumble inside Jacksonville's 30 squandered another scoring opportunity. And that's why the Dolphins can out gain a team by 137 yards and win by just four.
  • Randy Starks is having just one hell of a season. On Sunday, Starks continued his Pro-Bowl caliber season by making a number of key plays - non bigger than his tackle for a loss on David Garrard on 4th down with under 90 seconds to play. It wasn't a sack (technically) because it was a called QB draw. Regardless, Starks just shoved his blocker back and gave Garrard nowhere to run. He's the defensive MVP of this team right now. Who would have thought back in camp that we'd be saying that?
  • Cameron Wake has got to play more. All he does is get to the quarterback. And now he has a bullrush to go along with his speed rush. For the second consecutive week, Wake made the game-clinching play - this time sacking Garrard on the game's final play. It's getting to the point where he needs as many snaps as possible on gameday. It's that simple.
  • Vontae Davis played very well today - after sitting out the opening drive, that is. It was called a "coach's decision" to start Jason Allen over Davis. But Davis was back out there following Jacksonville's first "3 and out" of the game. Vontae said after the game, "It was just one series. I'm not in the doghouse. It's all part of learning." Most likely, Vontae was late for something and this was his punishment. No big deal. What was a big deal was Vontae's play - doing an excellent job all game on Mike Sims-Walker, though Sims-Walker was slowed with a calf injury. Still, Vontae has the skills and swagger to be an elite corner eventually.
  • I've come to realize that Yeremiah Bell is every bit as good as he was last season. He could be a very, very good strong safety if only he had a capable free safety playing next to him. Gibril Wilson is obviously not that. Bell just seems to make big pass deflections in big spots and remains stout against the run.
  • Great job by the offensive line on Sunday. They protected Henne well all game long and gave Ricky room to run. Lousaka Polite was also excellent once again. He converted on 3rd and fourth downs when asked and continued his excellent lead blocking.

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nice summary matty

I would just add that for two weeks in a row now, teddy ginn has made tough catches. he isn’t doing anything spectacular, but at least we’re getting some consistency!

now if only his kickoff returns could get back to where they were…

by JeffT on Dec 14, 2009 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

One of my favorite plays of the game was when Ginn ran the ball for 16 yds!

It took me by surprise as my mouth literally dropped to the floor. LOVED THAT PLAY! Hope to see him run the ball more often.

by JayGatorPhin on Dec 14, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

He has the speed to get to the edge and get at least 10 yards with a good possibiltiy of breaking a much bigger gain. Definitely don’t need to see Bess trying to scoot around the edge! Also, someone needs to talk to the offense about securing the ball!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL I am sure they will get PLENTY of work on that this week.

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle

by texascowpunk on Dec 14, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

God I hope so!

That was horrible…but luckily not nearly as bad as the Cardinals.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 15, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Proud....

Proud of the team we have now…win or lose. This team has the “want to”…it all goes back to Sparano and his “NO! NOT TODAY!” saying…..these guys know how to play well in the clutch.

The most promising thing is most of the big plays are made by guys that will be around for a long time….and we only get to add to them…..

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner

by Rzayo24 on Dec 14, 2009 1:04 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Just wait untill we get a true #1 reciever and the the whole field will open up that much more.

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle

by texascowpunk on Dec 14, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

id like to see Ginn get the punt returns

Bess never gets anything significant on punt returns and usually bobbles or fumbles to ball trying to catch it.

by CaliPhinsFan on Dec 14, 2009 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

x2

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle

by texascowpunk on Dec 14, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it just me?

or is anyone else getting tired of seeing Gerbil Wilson running after a WR headed for the end zone?

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 14, 2009 1:14 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm tired of seeing his name on the roster.

He sux. But Matty is right though, Bell is still solid. I guess its hard to look good next to a “guy” like Wilson.

"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."

Coach Paul Bear Bryant

by AussieKen on Dec 14, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

i've said it since the beginning of the season

we have decent SSs but no FSs. We need to get Clemons some work out there. I don’t see how he could be much worse in coverage and he has the speed that Gerbil doesn’t have.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 14, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't be worse in coverage

I am not sure that I could be MUCH worse than the Gerbil is in coverage……ok, well maybe not SUBSTANTIALLY worse.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. It should be Clemons playing FS for us

I think he’s the fastest defensive back we have, so I am not sure why we’re sitting him in favor of Gerbil “Whoops, was I supposed to cover that guy?” Wilson. His ball skills are almost non-existent.

It’s gotten to the point that every time our secondary blows an assignment, #28 has that Urkel “Did I do that?” look on his face.

Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Gerbil Wilson.

rec’d.

2009 Unofficial "The Phinsider" (Phinaddict's League) Fantasy Baseball League Champion

by Dave.Phuller on Dec 14, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

that’s his new name until he quits running around in circles and does something productive.

;-)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 14, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

and he started bitching at Sean Smith after they both screwed up

way to be a leader asshole

Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23

T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.

by Patssuck456 on Dec 14, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

the thing that drives me nuts, is that generally, with a good FS

even is the CB screws up, the damage can be limited. Smith is a rookie and expected to make some mistakes, but it’s Wilson missing his assignments that is causing the most problem.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 14, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

You can count me in there too! He is darn near the worst safety in the league on coverage!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Matty

You said the the dolphins need to win all 3 games and either have the pats or ravens lose one to make the playoffs then in the next line or two you said the same thing but instead of the ravens you said jags….dont we own the tiebreaker over the jags since we beat them???

by Miamiboi84 on Dec 14, 2009 1:30 AM EST reply actions  

its complicated

if its a 3 way tie…its one thing…..if its a two way tie..its another.

i say lets make sure we beat a REALLY tough Titans team….then look into it.

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner

by Rzayo24 on Dec 14, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't rule out a Denver collapse either

5 losses, an @Philly and 2 division games (albeit Oak & KC at home).
Balt & NE have some tough games but they’ll probably be favored in all of them.

by Peter Lacock on Dec 14, 2009 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Denver won't lose to Oak and KC

We just need to take care of our business and not worry about anything else.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

think about this

henne + v.jackson or b.marshall or d.bowe and camarillo, bess and hartline (ginn probably not but who knows he is playing “kinda solid”)…we are talking about in two years comparing him to the rivers of the world, this kid and i emphasize kid because he is young and has many years to come for us (woop woop) . we have a great future ahead of us. to think that 1-15 feels so long ago to me right now, regardless of what happens this season WE HAVE TO BE PROUD of this team and the character they have. i truly believe we need ronnie back and plus a true no.1 receiver we will be competing with the best of them in 2 years time, it took eli manning to win a super bowl 4yrs and i truly believe in 2011 we will be knocking at the door for the super bowl if we continue this improving pace.

I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface

by miafins23 on Dec 14, 2009 1:48 AM EST reply actions  

ofcourse

by all means i am optimistic about this year but what im saying is in 2011 i think we will be GREAT

I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface

by miafins23 on Dec 14, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Would be nice...

But I am realistic in that I am viewing this season as a learning and building season. I think Henne has come a long way since the second half of the Chargers game and I think most people that have seen him play in the last two games would agree that his arm is going to give defenses fits for the next 5-10 years (injuries withstanding).

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

No kiddding. You can tell he desperately wants to toss a couple of 60-yard passes

I can’t wait to see how our passing game looks once we get a guy who consistently stretches the defense.

Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I just wish that we would throw deep to Ginn

Bess just doesn’t get enough seperation to get deep (even though he had about a yard on the one he missed….but Ginn would have tracked that ball down)

I don’t see why you don’t try Ginn deep at least one time every game!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yea bess is a GREAT SLOT GUY

but not a deep threat, it was shown on the deep play henne threw to him

I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface

by miafins23 on Dec 14, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

also regarding g.wilson

i think that he is not a bad player he is just a bad “free safety” his natural position is strong safety, so if you are going to dog him don’t dog him for being a bad player cus truly he ain’t he is just a bad free safety he still plays like a strong safety which has to change.

I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface

by miafins23 on Dec 14, 2009 2:01 AM EST reply actions  

Hmmmmm

if that is the case, who would you rather have as a ss….wilson or bell? would you say bell because hes been playing the position the whole year? I dont know. Wilson just has the mentality of a ss in the way that he is constantly looking in the backfield and bites on the underneath stuff all of the time. But to be fair, I believe as bad as wilson may be as a deep pass safety valve, he may be just as much of a force at ss as bell is. I saw him make that play on jones drew in the backfield that was impressive. Biggest issue(s) this year with the secondary has been the safety’s ability to cover the TEs and also their inability to disallow opposing receivers to get behind them. Receivers have too often been able to outrun the safety before the ball is up in the air. A free safety cannot ever let that happen. EVER. He has to alway be there contesting the deep ball in one way or another.

Thats why I believe that both culver and clemons are better than wilson is at fs. They always seem at least to be closer to the receiver when the ball goes deep on them. I almost never see receivers get behind them. Outbeat by a receiver just fighting for the ball, yes. But I cannot say that I have seen them allow a receiver to get behind them deep before the pass is there.

However, as I said, with bell being 32(?) and wilson signed to big contract, do you all think he would be a better option than bell at ss and starting culver or clemons at fs next season? so wilson and say culver as the safety duo next season?

by picklescapone on Dec 14, 2009 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

what i would RATHER see is a guy like Clemons who has the speed/range to cover the deep part of the field

he might be a rookie and therefor raw, but i suspect he has more talent to play FS than anyone else on the roster.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 14, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Left....is it safe to say you are a Clemons fan?

I am going to go out on a limb and say it is a fair possibility!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Clemons is already one of my top five favorite players ... and he hasn't even done anything yet

Except for making some badass ST tackles.

Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I will have to start following him more

I have every game DVRd and will go back and start rewatching them for him as well as some other little things.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

i can't say i'm a "fan" yet, just because he really hasn't had a chance to show what he can do

but he has the raw talent to be good, and we need a real FS type back there, so I say give him a chance.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I only ask because I really didn't know anything of him coming out of college

And I didn’t get to watch much of preseason this year. I have liked what I have seen in the regular season when he gets in….but that’s comparing him to the Gerbil.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 15, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

well not clemons YET

i think clemons would have made the same mistake or even worse than wilson did, the only thing i can say is with clemons speed maybe the long pass catch and runs would be shorter

I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface

by miafins23 on Dec 14, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

and to picklescapone

i wouldnt honestly pick any other ss besides bell in the nfl, his only flaw is he doesnt get interception (but a good fs should) but what he brings to the table is worth recognizing him as ATLEAST a top DB (not just safety) in the nfl….now if you noticed all of the “good plays” wilson has made this year majority of them he has been lined up on the ss side of the field but still i wouldnt take bell’s spot away. i am still a believer in wilson and i believe (but highly doubt that he’ll come back) that next year he’ll be better than this year. as of right now i would pick t.culver over wilson to play more snaps because he seems to understand the fs position better but next year IF WILSON COMES BACK i think he will be good, clemons will be our future fs but not yet he is not ready for full time, if you remember bell didnt get his shot until like midway of his 3rd year.

I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface

by miafins23 on Dec 14, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

You have high opinion of Bell

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 15, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember mission 5-4-3W?

Let’s go back there and hope.
Great O-line push today, there’s depth and talent in that trench.

Why Not Us?

Pogue Mahone Rex Ryan

by Corroncho on Dec 14, 2009 2:22 AM EST reply actions  

if we get into the playoffs

i see a steelers/giants run when they won it all we would be a tough team to play and i think the close games to indy and the saints will give us confidence

I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface

by miafins23 on Dec 14, 2009 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Cameron Wake should see more snaps

I live in Winnipeg and I saw Wake absolutely dominate in the CFL.I was pumped when the Dolphins snapped him up,and I think he can be a real force with regular playing time.

by Pegphinsfan on Dec 14, 2009 2:51 AM EST reply actions  

It is simply absurd

how little time he gets.

Driver of the Make David Lee OC Bandwagon
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by joel311 on Dec 14, 2009 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

considering

the way that at the end of seemingly every game when we need in on D we hear the announcers call his name, he is so clutch its incredible

by danlr13 on Dec 14, 2009 3:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Less than 135 snaps all year!

Compared to almost 600 for Porter and Taylor

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

perhaps there's a reason?

By the fourth quarter, the tackles are exhausted from pushing back on #99 and #55, even if those guys aren’t productive. When Wake gets in, he’s fresh, and too strong and fast for the tired linemen to stop.

It’s possible that if Wake were to get more first quarter snaps, he’d be far less productive. As an O-line guy, Sparano may see this.

"I'm not as deep and complicated as people think." -Mike Tyson

by seamusfurr on Dec 14, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Start him against Tennessee over JT

Before developing the bullrush, Wake was a bit of a one-trick pony but it was one hell of a good trick. I think starting him against Tennessee would really help contain their run game. With his speed rush from the outside, he forces QB’s to stay in the pocket and go up the middle. With VY and CJ at their best getting outside, this would force them to go right into the heart of our defense.

by crossborderFISHingtrip on Dec 14, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure if Wake was a run stopping force he would be starting

Fact is JT is probably a lot more talented, he’s just older and slower. Wake plays the weak side, not strong side.

by metalhead86 on Dec 14, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Lousaka monster

did everything again… every time we hand him the ball and ask for 1 yard or 2 yards or 3 we get it, period no questions asked. if that man doesnt get one helluva contract extension and a pro bowl or two in the next few years i will be greatly disappointed. still don’t understand why he doesn’t get those goal line touches from the 1 he could very well be leading the nfl in rushing TD’s right now. and through all that i didnt even say one thing about his lead blocking, the way he blasted open a lane for ricky to walk into the endzone among alot of others… of all the talent we have, bess with the hands, henne with the arm, wake with the pass rush, and starks with the.. well.. everything, i truly believe that losaka polite is the most underrated and best talent on our football team, and arguably the team mvp to this point. and considering what henne has done that is saying a helluva lot..

by danlr13 on Dec 14, 2009 3:50 AM EST reply actions  

MVP? It's still a fullback position..

He’s done a great job but he’s excelling at a position that means less in terms of an impact for the ’fins.

Great job but no MVP.

by D X on Dec 14, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow nice post both of you

I like the second one especially interesting.
I also love polite we ask him to get 1 yard he always gets 4. He always converts 4th and 3rd and 1’s and every team knows what we are going to do but noone can stop it. Did you see that one play where he was basically stopped 2 yards in but drove the pile another 3 yards Incredible i think we need to give lousuka some more touches to keep defenses a bit more honest in the run game he is the monster. It would be a shame if he didn’t make the Probowl.

by Gamer2102 on Dec 14, 2009 6:01 AM EST reply actions  

Polite's also a blocking monster.

The biggest fool that ever hit the big time -and all I gotta do is act naturally.

by Tunaflipper on Dec 14, 2009 6:08 AM EST up reply actions  

He is starting to get some love by the commentators and ESPN guys

I just hope that the rest of America will get to appreciate what we have….THE BEST FB in the NFL in the last 10 years. The guy never wiffs. He never goes a play without blocking someone, and generally knocking them on their ASSES!! And that doesn’t even talk about how affective he is at running the ball. The guy has the lowest pad level I have ever seen. I bet his shoulders aren’t more than 2.5 feet off the ground as he goes into the line! Amazing.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't Jax win on a tiebreaker for WC

Due to better conference record vs. Miami?

"It is obvious the Patriots souls are on lease - any day now Satan will rise up to New England - kick Tom Brady, Kevin Garnett, and David Ortiz in their luck filled testicles - and turn that area into his personal vacation home here on earth.-Rzayo 24, week one.

"Everybody in that room should be embarrassed. If they’re not embarrassed, they got the wrong job or they’re stealing money from baseball."-Ozzie Guillen 8/28/09

by rangerjae on Dec 14, 2009 7:07 AM EST reply actions  

Did anyone else notice Gibril Wilson yelling at Sean Smith on the sidelines?????

After I saw that i really hate Gibril now…

Cornerbacks get beat sometimes and its up to the safety to not let the receiver get behind him and that’s exactly what he did…

Then you see him yelling on the sidelines at Smith like he was T.O.

What a jerkoff

by scbrandon on Dec 14, 2009 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

i saw 3.5 seconds of sideline camera on wilson very animated

whether he was talking it out, shouting at smith, criticizing the refs or what i have no idea. are we 100 percent sure he was ragging on sean?

by a1a on Dec 14, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats 2 weeks in a row where the D came up big,

I saw this game pretty much the way it unfolded, and I said as much, we matched up well against them, I didn’t think the D would make it a close game, I didn’t count on all the O gaffs, but we won anyway.

The D is starting to earn it’s keep and that is what we need to WIN in the playoffs.

I was just talking about Ricky the other day and how great it was he was not fumbling this year, so I guess I jinxed him, sorry my bad.

Big Rig is having a great season, but I must say I thought he had probowl potential, didn’t say he was going to or anything, but I did say he was a quality NFL starter and only getting better. linkage;http://www.thephinsider.com/2009/9/2/1012328/the-d-line

Wake is sick and I created the BandWaken before the season so your preachin to the choir here, lol.

Vontae just may end up as the DROY, he is going to be a top flight shutdown corner.

Bell is a very good SS, burdened with an anchor, G Wilson, Bell is probowl caliber, IMO.

Good stuff Matty, as usual.

by uncle finster on Dec 14, 2009 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

Agree with everything except the Bell issue

Sure he has Gerbil next to him dragging him down, and yes, he has made some great defensive plays in key situations. But when you look a the body of work that is his season…..he is FAR from pro bowl caliber. At best he is average. He gets beat on coverage way too much by the TEs and doesn’t provide good assistance on the WRs when he has the opportunity.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets do our job

We need to win out, period. Lets do that first before worrying about others.

Can everyone go to the probowl site and vote for Polite? its a shame if he doesn’t make the probowl!

Saw the Holt play, 100% agree with Matty, Wilson shouldn’t have been on the same line with Smith. Was he trying to play Holt offside in a soccer match?

It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile

by MoLimits on Dec 14, 2009 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

Bell

I know this is a game late but. Any one notice in the Pats game the long throw to Welker, that Nate Jones and I think Sean Smith Trailing behind and who catches up to him but Bell. He ran past Jones and Smith to bring down Welker.

I guess Madden 2011 should have his speed a little higher… Lol

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Dec 14, 2009 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

Catching DeAngelo Williams on the sideline saved a TD as well.

It's what you learn after you know it all that counts. ~ John Wooden

by paulymcmac on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

What about Denver? Do they hold the tiebreaker over everyone.

It looks really good that they’ll finish 10-6 as well. They’re 8-5 with Oakland, Phi, and KC. I see them losing to PHIL but, if we can get an upset in there somewhere. That would be nice.

by D0lphins4Life on Dec 14, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

True

But lets take care of the Titans and Chris “Can anyone catch me or tackle me” Johnson. That dude scares the shit out of me!

Let the other cards fall as they may. If we take care of our business, then things will work out for us!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

What's with the O-Line?

Does anyone know why Donald Thomas didn’t start yesterday? Was it a coaches decision?

by crossborderFISHingtrip on Dec 14, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Wilson asleep

Wilson wasn’t even looking at the receiver until the receiver was already past him. His first responsibility has to be the long ball. Smith can’t be expected to get the jam every time.

by Joel West on Dec 14, 2009 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

lou polite...

is continuing to get recognition for his great pass block/run blocking skills and being perfect in 3rd/4th and short situations…I don’t know any AFC fullback that is better than lou. He will be in the pro bowl. If any dolphins deserves that …it is good ole Lou

by Phins4life2334 on Dec 14, 2009 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

I haven't seen ANY FB better than him this year

The guy would knock King Kong on his ass if Kong was trying to tackle Ricky. It would take a long time, but I would love to go back and watch every offensive run we have had and see how many of those plays did the guy Polite blocked get involved in the tackle. I would be willing to say it’s less than 5%

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't see the game...

I have NFL ticket, but I am in the middle of the state. I live about 30 miles closer to Jax than Miami and Jax is a constant blackout. I got to see the highlights on the RedZone. I’m getting most of my game info from everyone’s posts. Since it seems we shut down MJD (I did see his TD on the RedZone, Refs set them up sweet with a questionable interference call). Did Solai anchor the middle? I hope he is healthy now and can become a solid NT. That would let us focus more on out Safety and Receiver needs. Another need RB? Ricky is aging and Ronnie is (dare I say it?) injury prone!

8-8 is a victory at this point!

by phatfinfan on Dec 14, 2009 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

Ronnie has been injury prone every year

Remember when he broke his foot back in 2006 I think it was, he was carrying us into playoff contention =/.

by metalhead86 on Dec 14, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Man what a great defensive stand by our boys....

I am so proud we pulled this one out…The offense definitely struggled .
Ricky was coughing the ball up too much and Bess didn’t play great but
somehow we got it done. We all know that when this team is clicking we
are virtually unbeatable. We are going to have to be consistent to win out .

That said, I am so proud of this team right now. A great job to beat the Jags on the road no matter how you slice it !!!!!

GO MIAMI DOLPHINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jimbo

by Dolphinator on Dec 14, 2009 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

OH By the way...

Polite is an absolute beast on 4th and anything. What a hammer !!!!!!

If I ever see him in public I’m throwing a hug on him !!!! LOL !

Jimbo

by Dolphinator on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

That's ok

Took a weird bend to his hip area and was probably being safe. He knocked Harvey on his ass about 2 plays later.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That field is terrible

I’m not a field expert but that turf has no drainage which I think contributed to the fumbles. When the Dolphins punted into the endzone you could see a splash when the ball hit the ground. It rained all day Satruday which saturated the ground. It got pretty tore up inside the 10 yard line.

Ricky is looking a little tired. 25-30 carries a game may get the best of him yet.

by coloradokevin on Dec 14, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

i agree

we need to find a way to lighten his load just alittle if we want to keep our mantra as a true power running team

by danlr13 on Dec 14, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Bad ball control contributes to fumbles

Those weren’t a product of the field. The field was horrible but if you know you are playing on a wet field you better be sure to wrap the ball up. None of the 5 fumbles were caused by “Jarring” hits.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I like what we're doing with the defensive line right now

Using Soliai in running situations and McDaniel in passing situations is genius. It will be nice if we can draft a NT to platoon with Soliai.

Speaking of, I wrote in to the Miami Herald about NT prospects and Darlington answered it this morning. I love it when I actually get through to sports writers.

Drinking the Vontae Davis #21 orange Kool-Aid. We've got a new shutdown corner in South Beach!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

I forgot about NE on the road against BUF and HOU. Anything could happen.

How nice would it be to wear those gray hats 2 years in a row and finally shut up the critics. Who some are starting to drink th e Kool – aid. Lord knows we have plenty to share.

by D0lphins4Life on Dec 14, 2009 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

I am hoping that NE will lose to Jax and Houston

Then Jax would make the playoffs (if they win out) and we would repeat as AFC East champs (if we win out)

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as we win out!

Tennessee is the scariest of the matchups we have remaining. I mean really, what other team has the offensive explosive capability that they do? I think Chris Johnson has 4 TDs over 80 yards…..RUNNING. If that guy finds a seam, forget about it!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

disagree
(except for maybe Gibril Wilson)

although he may have taken to that double move along with Sean Smith, he help defend very well in the endzone and broke up what would have been a touchdown pass. He came right back after that and made sure they only got 3.

Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
Nicky forever.

by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

Wasn't Gerbil called for interference on that pass in the end zone?

I think Bell is the one who knocked the ball away at the goal line on Jax’s FG drive.

Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

it was in the back of the end zone that I'm talking about on the same drive that he blew coverage.

The TE almost made the catch and Gibril bumped him and the ball came out.

It was another drive with the P.I, which was bs P.I. anyway.

Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
Nicky forever.

by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

dislike

Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
Nicky forever.

by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell you what DIB

If he picks off a pass in the next 3 games, I will stop calling him the Gerbil. But if he gets burned deep again during that same time, he will forever be known as the Gerbil.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll have to change his name

Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

we'll see

Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
Nicky forever.

by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, the really high pass to Mercedes Lewis

Now I remember. I don’t know if Lewis would’ve come down with that one anyways.

Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. He's Gerbil. I refuse to call him by his real name anymore.

That pass interference set up Jax’s only TD drive, so we can toss that onto the rap sheet, too.

He really pisses me off, if you couldn’t already tell.

Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually don't mind him and acknowledge him by his acutal name

Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
Nicky forever.

by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

He has missed too many coverage assignments and gets destroyed deep!

I have to go with Gerbil too….until he starts playing his position like it’s supposed to be played. An occassional good play doesn’t trump the many bad plays.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

defend very well in the endzone

i think a lot of people have said this that gibril can play just not fs, making plays in the back of the endzone no one can get behinde you

by 604finsfan on Dec 14, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm good point

It’s tough to get beat deep when you’re under the goal post.

Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Dec 14, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget about Denver!

If they slip up against Oakland or KC Miami is ahead of them due to conference record.

by aron_beaver on Dec 14, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

1st time the game calling was good but

The only complaint I had was the personel involved in particular plays.

Bess on screens and end-arounds.

The over use of Ricky Williams when he hasnt been an every down back in awhile. Please decrease his carries, the wear and tear and future injury concerns me seeing how we dont have a RB we trust taking atleast 10 snaps a game. We need him fresh as we can.

Stop sending anyone other than Ginn on Go routes they just are not capable beating coverage or catching up to the ball.

Good job Defense, Henne, Camerillio

Ted Ginn supporter

by okokokaay on Dec 14, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think he gave up

I think he was losing his balance. I think he was trying as hard as he could to catch it but kind of appeared to lose his balance just a bit. My only question is why we don’t try that with Teddy Bear? There are very few DBs in the league that can stay with him deep, and he would have at least put his hands on that pass (notice I didn’t say catch it) and if he caught it, no one would have caught him!!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

agreeagree w/ okok

my read was that if we had done the truly proper thing — blow them out, or get up 21-0 or better, we would have seen pat white doing some sustained and interesting things in the 4th quarter.
fine with me.

by a1a on Dec 14, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

At the game we were surrounded by Fins fans

So that made the game a little less tense, but i couldn’t have enjoyed teh game more. That 4th quarter defense was nasty, and Cam Wake is going to be an all-star. His post play celebrations are even better than Peezy’s. Even Charlie Andersen (I think it was him at least) was playing well. Garrard is a hard guy to bring down, but if we have wrapped him up as much as we should’ve, we could have had at least 4 more sacks.

Overall a great experience. The food and beer @ Municipal was fantastic, the facilities were very, erm, revealing, and my gal and I got to go to our first game together (her first in her life), and she may be our little good luck charm :)

by chrislucas on Dec 14, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Glad that you had a good time brother!

And more importantly, glad that you were there for the victory!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 14, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks buddy :)

i always enjoy going to a game, but it was a diff exp all together with the gf @ my side.

by chrislucas on Dec 14, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And how did you like that?

Do you prefer being there without her? I know that I tend to have more fun if I am not there with the wife.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Dec 15, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Fins fan in the UK

The team looks to be coming together.
Chad has finally found his aim, Camarillo is class, Hartline looks like he could be a real find, Bess is solid and hopefully Ginn will be the guy we hoped he would be.
Wake looks a beast and needs to be let loose much more.
Corners are developing into quality cover guys.

The future looks bright.

by Mr_Freeze on Dec 14, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

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