What's wrong with the Dolphins defense?
We've talked a lot this season about the obvious need on the offensive side of the ball. By now, we all know that one position that needs an upgrade is the wide receiver position. But we haven't talked about just how bad Miami's defense has been this year. But they've been quite bad. In fact, if somebody was to ask me for one word to describe this defense, I'd probably say, "awful."
Just how bad has it been? Just browsing the season numbers tells you the story - in a nut shell, at least. The Dolphins are 26th in points allowed per game (25), 19th in yards allowed per game (341), and 21st in yards allowed per play (5.6).
Of course, you have to look at all the numbers - which show it hasn't been all bad. The Dolphins have 35 sacks - only the Vikings have more. And they are only allowing opponents to convert 33% of their third downs - tied for the lowest figure in the league.
If the Dolphins can rush the passer and they can get off the field on third down, what the hell is the problem here?
That's the question I've had in my head for weeks now - and has consumed me since the loss to Buffalo on Sunday. Even in that game, the Dolphins sacked Ryan Fitzpatrick six times and limited the Bills to just 3/10 on third down. But still, the Bills gained 336 yards - with Fitzpatrick throwing for 246 yards against the Dolphins.
As far as I can tell, there are two major issues regarding Miami's defense. The first is that they are prone to surrendering the big play. The Dolphins have allowed 39 passing plays of 20+ yards (4th most in league) and 10 passing plays of 40+ yards (also 4th most in league). In fact, the only teams with more plays of 40+ yards allowed? The Chiefs, Lions, and Raiders. Not good company to be grouped in with. And Miami's 7.9 yards allowed per pass attempt is also the 4th highest in the league - again only trailing those same three teams.
When you factor in those numbers with the fact that 38.5% of all pass attempts against the Dolphins result in first downs (only the Lions have a higher percentage), it's easy to see how the Dolphins can have the best third down defense in the league and still stink on defense. They have only forced their opponents to face a third down 136 times - the 4th fewest third downs faced in the league.
What good is it being effective on third down if you give up large chunks of yardage on first and second down?
The other problem, of course, has been this defense's performance in the fourth quarter.
The Dolphins have surrendered 134 fourth quarter points in 2009, which is an average of 12.2 per game and is obviously dead last in the NFL. But that isn't even the ugliest statistic.
I went back and calculated some disgusting statistics from the fourth quarters of Miami's eleven games in 2009. The results made me sick, to be honest.
In the fourth quarter alone (and not counting a drive in which only kneel downs were run by the opponent), the Dolphins are allowing 118.4 yards per game, 6.9 yards per play, and an astounding 40.7 yards per possession.
So what in the world is the problem during the fourth quarter? Is the coaching staff not making the proper adjustments? Are the players just tired?
As far as Miami's tendency to allow the big play, I guess you have to chalk some of it up to having to start two rookie cornerbacks. But is it time to worry a little bit about those young corners?
And just how do the Dolphins fix this in the offseason? Do they bring in a veteran corner and move one of their rookies out of a starting job? So they bring in a new safety and bench (or cut) one of the two expensive safeties that they gave big contracts to last offseason?
I know there's been a lot of talk about spending a high draft pick on a linebacker. But is the linebacker position (inside or outside) really the problem?
All I know is that I have many more questions than I do answers - which is not a good feeling.
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1st post!
i think a good pass coverage lb would help the most this offseason. someone to roam the middle of the field. and knock the hell out of anyone coming across or down the middle. then i think our young corners will benefit from added help from the safetes. that wouldnt have to cover so much of the middle.
The Aaron Brooks quandary
It’s about key-moments. Sure the stat-line looks good on paper and whatnot, but the Dolphins fail to perform in CRITICAL situations, i. e. 4th quarter.
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great post and lots to think about
i think these corners will figure it out over time, also what happens with will allen next year. yeremiah is the man but it might be time to look outside of gibril. we clearly do need a young lb as taylor and porter arent getting younger. we need a playmaking lb like any good defense has. also, one thing this post forgot NT. NT next year. i dont think soliai is the answer and ferguson is gonna be 36. so wut next? i think we need to spend $$ on a wr and spend a draft pick on lb and nt in 1st and 2nd round
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by ronnie brown for president on Dec 1, 2009 1:41 AM EST reply actions
inside linebackers
The Dolphins Defense has been eaten up all season by tight ends and running backs releasing over the middle, so the corners have to cheat up and then they get burned. The corners will get better, but we need a young Zack Thomas back.
Oh So Many Problems ... main one ILB
I am not surprised by those stats one bit. We get sacks on third down so that is why we are so good in that position yet we never make it there so that is why we are so bad everywhere else.
What do we already know about the defense?
the pass rush is at its best when Wake comes in on 3rd down and if he doesn’t get there he creates a problem that leads to a positive for Miami. We don’t get good pressure on 1st or 2nd down (Porter getting blocked by fullback) and therefore the QB’s have picked us apart.
The main problem is that there are a lot of them but I don’t think the rookie corners have been that bad or need to be replaced … they are not the ones who cover TE’s that have killed the dolphins all year, that falls on the ILB and S I believe. I’m sorry but if you are asking a rookie corner to check All Pro’s in one-on-one you are going to get burned as they have this past weekend with Owens and the previous with Moss.
With regards to drafting ect… I personally think that the majority of the blame does have to fall on the ILB position therefore bring in the best one in the country when we pick. Crowder has been OK at best and Akin is a stop gap. If neither can cover a TE or even rush the passer or even make game changing tackles then I think we know it is a problem and time for a change. Do we need more help? YES but when you don’t even notice your ILB as if they aren’t even playing the game IMO its time to worry
Exactly
isn’t the whole point of the 3-4 is to allow the ILBs to my plays.We need to double up on ILBs in the draft, just like we did with sean and vontae. We should have drafted Maliuga from USC IMO,look what he’s doing in the cinny.
Also
We have a good run game, so they are definitely not tired. Is it the coaching, personnel, or both?
tired?
good point and needs to be said. what would this defense do if they needed to play a full 30-35 minutes on the field instead of 20 minutes. our rush offense keeps the defense fresh and off the field
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by ronnie brown for president on Dec 1, 2009 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
coaching might be a problem
henning has made some real boner play calls(ricky aint ronnie , dont make him pass)and when we get a lead , quit going into prevent defense jeeze. I’ve seen it time and time again protect the lead but don’t go for the jugular , screw that , we need to be more agressive and go for the kill then beat the body into the ground (too much?) lol
We need playmakers as our ILBs.
Guys who can blitz, cover, and defend the run. Because our ILBs lack in all of those categories, it’s forcing us to bring up our safeties to cover TEs, RBs, defend against the run, and even blitz. In turn, we are leaving our rookie corners man-to-man, and they’re paying for it. Another thing I’ve noticed as well, we don’t play alot of zone defense and I think it’s due to the fact we’re starting two rookie CBs. This could also be attributing to our pourous defense. As for the TO touchdown catch against Davis, I don’t blame Davis for that one. I blame Pasqualoni for leaving him one-on-one without safety help.
I'm also going with ILB and coaching
Or rookie CB’s are just fine, just going through growing pains. I’m cool with our rookie S’s in Culver and Clemons. Bell is fine at the SS we just need a dominant cover ILB to cover TE’s to take pressure off Bell who’s more of an enforcer and not a cover guy. Also, I don’t know about you guys but our second half play calling is way to conservative especially in the 4th quarter. I don’t think it’s fatigue, this coaching staff is framed in the Parcells model in which every player is at peak physical shape to last all four quarters and overtime. I’m not in favor of canning the OC or DC due to I don’t feel they have the pulse of this team to call the right plays to keep momentum. I think the lost of CP10 and the Second coming of Marino in Howitzer Henne threw Henning off more then any of us could imagine. This team was built to run and dink and donk. If that’s your offensive philosophy you can get away with not having a #1 and having a bunch of #2’s and 3’s. But now he has a QB who arguably has the strongest arm in the league and can make any pass in total contrast from CP10 who couldn’t throw a pass ten yards efficiently but could dink and donk with the best of them. With Pasqualini same thing, I felt he thought GWilson was worth as much as we signed him to play FS. The loss of WAllen messed him up due to WAllen knew exactly the defensive philosophy PP was trying to execute with the secondary WAllen organized or zone coverages and the SSmith and VDavis progression was faster then he thought would be. With the progression of our rookie CB’s I feel Pasqualani is trying to figure out how much they can handle. Also, the progression of Culver and Clemons is confusing him, too. And that’s going hand in hand with his confusion with our rookie CB’s since our FS spot is being played primarly with rookies in passing plays. With that said I feel Culver has a nose for the ball but doesn’t fully no the playbook and the role the FS will play in our version of 3-4 and nickel packages. Clemons obviously knows our play book and defensive philosophy since he’s playing both SS and FS and starting. With Clemons he’s just not in sync with the corners and what Crowder is doing yet but I feel he’s our future FS due to he knows his X’s and O’s now he’s just got to get consistency with the secondary and what our ILB is doing before and after the snap. So I attribute our struggles in the fourth quarter to our Coordinators not fully knowing what they have and not knowing what you have will hinder you in making adjustments where you need to make adjustments. We’re playing with a rookie laden secondary a captain in that secondary who’s taken the leadership role for the first time in his career in Bell and our front seven though great is off, too. I feel our coaching staff still doesn’t know how to maximize Wake yet. I like Soliai as NT I just think he’s not in sync with what Starks, Langford, and Merling are doing, he’s obviously still worrying about his technique and about his ankle. Just a couple more starts and finishes he’ll know his ankle is just fine his technique is sound and then he’ll gel with Starks, Merling, and Langford and it’ll be smooth sailing after that. So I guess what I’m trying to say is we have to many rookies starting primarily on our defense and they (the coordinators and players) haven’t gelled as a well oiled machine yet.
Well said!
We have put uch pressure ourself in to this team, but always forget how young this team is on defense. even jesavius, wich i stand by what he said, take Merlin and Langford like if they were veterants. Wake is also a ruk on my book. This player r gona get better and the coaching staff too. In reallity, waht we need r 2 ILB next season, dont care how they come, if by draft, FA or both. FA has provent that it works 50-50 and draft have provent that works 60-40, go figure : S
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one more loss
if the Dolphins lose 1 more game they should start playing some of the young guys as starters let them get some game experience and see what they can do I would really like to see lemon play more and how bad can turner be compared to the rest of the receivers I mean ginn drops alot more passes than he catches who cares how fast he is if he can’t catch even though Sporrano defends him all the time you know he is just trying to keep his confidence up to get through the season if they lose 1 more game they are pretty much out of the playoff race even if they make it to the playoffs they don’t have the talent to go deep especially if rickey will only carry the ball 24 times a game and they seem to be afraid to let hilliard get any carries so the passing game has to step up and they don’t have the players to give henne any real help so if they lose 1 more game I think they should start mixing things up a bit they might be surprised
agree completely
Football is not a contact sport. It's a collision sport. Dancing is a good example of a contact sport.
But the only ruk who is not playing is Turner lol
I will guest u mean a LOT more playing time?
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Who in the heck
is lemon? Dont tell me that you confused Pat with Cleo. Oh, and some punctuation next time please.
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3-4 defense
The Dolphins don’t have the players to run the 3-4 defense the nose tackles a wearing down in the fourth quarter and the opposing o-linemen are getting to the LBs and opening hole for the running backs Taylor is slower than he used to be and if he’s not rushing the QB he is useless porter is better against the run than pass rushing with ferguson gone for the year they should go to a 4-3 with lankford starks soliai and merling let taylor play right end on passing downs make wake the ROLB porter the LOLB crowder in the middle the secondary isn’t as bad as people think though bell and wilson are not cover safeties the corners are young but improving every week the Dolphins need a LB that can cover a tight end and play a zone covereage when needed allowing the safeties to help out the corners someone in another post said we need a young Zach Thomas but I would rather get a Young Lawerance taylor but both would be even better
total agree
look what cushing in houston is doing. just like we did last year we need to double up on LBs in the draft, but with out a doubt we need that kid from bama cody. the kid is a beast.
I'm not sold on Cody.
He was being single-blocked all last game (the only Alabama game I watched from start to finish this year).
I just read a nice write-up where other SEC coaches critiqued UF and Bama. They said
that Cody was good, but not great. He can clog up the middle some, but he tires well before the game is over and he can not run. His 40 time is gonna be 4 hours!
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use a freaking comma or period.
by hossanfeffer2 on Dec 14, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
3-4 needs LBs
and thats what the phins lack, an impact ILB, i really like what channing brings to the Def. with his run stuffing but Akin and Torbor are horrible.On that TD run by fitizpatrick Torbor could have made the play,had he not taken a horrible angle. Anyways, its only year 2 after that crap we called football with Camron, and i’m just glad to be talking about the phins this late in the season.
Tackling Stinks
We seem to be quite poor at tackling this year. So many plays stand out — Joey Porter unable to catch the Jets on the fake punt despite being right there, half of Gibril Wilson’s plays, Torbor to the sideline, Crowder unable to stop Ryan Fitzpatrick from getting first downs, over and over. It seems we are the kind of defense that lets the opponent get extra from the play. Against the Saints, against the Panthers, Bills, Patriots, it’s always a 10-20 yard pass and then dozens of yards RAC. Moss and Owens and Smith and Colston and Vincent are all great receivers — they WILL catch the ball. No corner can completely prevent that. But they don’t have to run through a bunch of arm tackles for additional yardage. That part is really disheartening. Last year it was a swarming defense that bottled people up — this year we just whiff as receivers, runners and now backup quarterbacks go running on by.
Totally agree
I was going to post on this yesterday, but never got around to it. But it is bad whenwe are beating teams 172-131 through three quarters and then are outscored a pathetic 74-134 in the fourth qtr alone. We have been shut out three times in the fourth and scored a TD in only six fouth quarter games all season. Add to that, we have won the time of possesion battle 8 times and lost only three , so what are we doing with the ball???I’ll tell you, we have lost the interception battle 9-11, won the fum recovery battle 9-6, but lose the sack battle 17-34. So we take sacks and fumble away the ball (poor ball Protection) and can’t stop them once they have it. I’m going to follow this team even if we have a one win season……….or an undefeated one, but we must get better on the o-line in pass protection just the opposite of the Marino years , and slow down the backs and TE in the middle of the field, and finally get better pressure on first and second downs so our weak secondary do not have too much time to get beat.
I will follow this team even with a 0-16 season ; )
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Well there you go guys
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I hear ya whodat!
I really appreciated the saints fans when we played them they were very gracious about the asswhipping they put on us lol, but you’re right you exposed alot of the chinks in the armor of n e . of all the teams threatning the perfect season, the saints probably deserve it the most. they are a humble and proud group. still you could lose one(just for me lol)so I can quit sweating our record good luck and go phins
Coaching
I have been really perturbed about the calls our two coordinators have been making. They have put our offense and defense, respectively, in terrible situations. I will also lay a little blame on the inexperience of our CBs. I believe we also need a better pair of LBs in the middle. Their pass coverage is terrible. Our safeties have also been out of position several times.
But, I believe it falls on the backs of the coaching staff.
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by JStarr23 on Dec 1, 2009 9:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
No problem with the CBs
If there were a problem with the cornerbacks, we’d be losing games by huge margins long before the fourth quarter and getting far less pressure.
A lot of problems have been mentioned here, but one that I haven’t seen is the backside containment problem, which has almost always been Joey Porter, though in the Bills game, it was Anderson that failed to contain their QB on his first big TD run. Whether this was a one-time mental lapse (always possible), part of the defensive scheme (difficult to believe), or in imitation of Porter (my guess—after all, it’s gotten Porter the sack #‘s, the fame, and the starting position), it cost us the Buffalo game as much as Ricky’s interception, which I don’t blame on Ricky. Going all out after the sack leaves the outside wide open.
By contrast, several times in the Bills game, the QB would try a bootleg to Jason Taylor’s side, and JT had him covered.
Up the middle
All defenses are made or broken by players up the middle, NT, ILB’s and FS/SS
Look at the steelers without polamalu, missing a force in the middle will get you beat
Bottom line is we have 2 non playmaking ILB’s, a 35 year old NT (injured) and a good SS but our FS is a true SS, hes got no ball skills giving these corners no help in the middle of the field
Get a FS that can make plays on the ball and a ILB, along with stop playing both JT and Peezy together, get wake in there more and our defense would be alot different
AGREE WITH SUSPECT
WE DESPERATELY NEED FS, ILB, OLB, NT, WR.
It’s very difficult to say which is a higher priority in terms of where to draft them… but I can see maybe ILB and WR in FA, while FS OLB and NT in draft?
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Sorry to reply to my own post, but....
This just serves as such a huge reminder of what a superfluous choice it was to draft Pattie White during a rebuild. Imagine if we’d have gotten a 2nd round OLB/ILB/FS instead…
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MauMau would
have been the pick IMHO
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Wasnt he picked
before our next pick came up?
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He was. And as much as I have disliked the Pat White pick from the beginning, it seems that no olb/ilb picked after White have seen much of the field this year.
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Thought so
I think Laurinitis got snatched up early in the 2nd too….if memory serves correct. I remember thinking there wasnt any LB’s worth justifying that 2nd rounder on at that point. Plus, I was hoping that they would pull the trigger on Sean Smith….little did I know that we would manage that with our next pick.
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It is a combination of Coaching and LB play
Coaching has a huge effect in the game that some people are reluctant to admit. Take the Saints vs. Patriots game last. What is the big difference between the Saints defense of ‘08 that was awful and the Saints defense of ’09 that is really good? Answer: A couple of new players and a new D Coordinator! Did you see how well they tackled last night? Welker didn’t have hardly any yards after the catch and he is one of the best in the league at that! Greg Williams came in to become the D Coordinator, changed the mentality, coached them to become better tacklers, and now they are one of the better defenses in the league with essentially the same players as last year! That is coaching!!!
The LB play for the phins has been awful this year and I have been pounding this fact the entire year. Sure they are getting some sacks our of Taylor, Porter, Anderson, and Wake but there is no consistent pressure from the 4 man pash rush. The phins have no LB that can cover anyone in the passing game. Crowder and Adoyele are only adequate at stoping the run (has either forced a fumble this year? last year?). The biggest failure by this Front Office, IMO, has been not addressing the LB’s on this team. Two drafts and no LB’s taken. If you don’t have dominate LB’s in a 3-4 defense, you are not going to be very good. And so far this year, that has played out.
Wait!
They came in with a team that was 1-15
They brought some adecuate ILB’s, a NT and adresses the most important positions in the 1st 2 draft. Now is time to keep addressing the needs of this team. U better believe they will get ILB’s, WR(#1 pick) and a NT.
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I know that the FO didn't have a lot to work with when they got here
but it doesn’t make sense to me why they haven’t drafted any LB’s. LB’s are the key to a 3-4 defense, not DE’s or CB’s. If you believe the philosophy of being strong up the middle of the field, then just about every draft pick on defense has been the opposite of that philosophy.
yeah but
you start rebuilding in the trenches on the LINE which is what they did. O and D line
you have to admit our run D was prettty darn good last year and our pass D sucked. CB’s drafted
We thought roth was going to be around too..
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DT DT DT
a solid Defensive Tackle will help the ILB the OLB and the secondary. ours is older than some coaches and now on IR. we have NONE other. paul solai is not even close to the answer. we need 2 solid DT’s at minimum. defensive tackles also draft well!! generally not a bust and on your team for 10 years++ we have DE’s playing DT. they are all getting worn out. our linebackers are deep and young and decent for their respective ages. they are showing good signs of life we have plenty of sacks. but when a lineman gets on them they are done. DT DT DT.
Schemes
I have been wondering why Pasqualoni doesn’t rotate our CB’s to blanket the players they are supposed to cover! I mean why in the world would he have Davis on Moss when Smith, who is 6’3, was drafted to combat Moss and Owens! but yet he has Davis on Moss and Smith on Welker! I don’t get it! He has done that all year and it drives me nuts!
I have been wondering the same thing.
Like WTF? I mean why keep one guy stricly to one side, instead covering the guy he best matches up with. Sean Smith is meant to cover tall receivers. Vonta is a physical guy picked to cover Dwayne Bowe and Steve Smith type players. Any idea anyone?
I think that after a couple of years, especially if they swap sides next year with...
Sean Smith playing LCB and Vontae Davis playing RCB all year long, then on the third year, they would be able to play either side technique-wise.
I also think there is something with defensive balance: What if both receivers go to one side (TE inline on the other)? Then the entire vacated side is wide open and uncovered.
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The footwork is different depending on what side of the field a CB is on
It is not as easy as you think to switch sides as a CB. Footwork, hip turns, hand placement, etc. is all different. I would hope that both Smith and Davis will eventually get to the point where they can switch sides. But that is a lot to ask for a rookie to develop.
Might the Solution ALREADY be on the team and only an offseason/minicamp/training camp away?
It would require a change in SCHEME to a 3-4 defense that uses an attacking NT (like Jay Ratliff) versus a hulking NT (like Vince Wilfork or Kris Jenkins).
Consider the past template of the Ravens:
Dominant Disruptive NT: Haloti Ngata
OLB Pressure Players: Adalius Thomas and Terrell Suggs
ILB Pressure Players: Ray Lewis and Bart Scott
Ball-Hawking Safeties: Jim Leonhard and Ed Reed
You can’t have just one strong area, they have to work together to plug holes that DCs and QBs will exploit.
The Fins simply have too many holes in their young and injury depleted defense.
Tony McDaniel and Randy Starks are not your typical hulking run-stuffing Nose Tackle Defensive Linemen, but I think that they could have a significant disruptive impact on the game (versus run or pass) from the Nose Tackle position if THE SCHEME were modified to let them slant to/through a gap.
What about Cameron Wake and Erik Walden as Inside Linebackers? Cameron Wake has some amazing measurables. What if that athleticism was applied to the inside LB position? Wake and Walden are definitely fast and athletic, would be devastating blitzers, and would also be dangers doing stunts around the outside. Combine them with Jason Taylor and Joey Porter on the outside and you would be able to generate some pass rush with just the linebackers, allowing the safeties to help out in pass defense. I realize that the run stuffing ability of the defense would suffer at first, but with the upgrade in athleticism from the inside linebacker position, there would also be plenty of tackles for losses in the run game as well (inside linebackers shooting gaps).
Last upgrade, bench your slow and expensive strong safeties and play Tyrone Culver and Chris Clemons as ball-hawking fleet-footed safeties.
These modifications would weaken the run-defense a little and make if more feast or famine. They would give up big runs but also have their share of tackles for losses against the run and would vastly improve the pass defense.
POSSIBLE FUTURE DEFENSIVE ROSTER:
LDE Langford / Baker
NT Starks / McDaniel
RDE Merling / Alama-Francis
LOLB Taylor / Moses
LILB Wake / Crowder
RILB Walden / Torbor
ROLB Porter / Anderson
LC Davis / W Allen
RC Smith / Jones
SS Clemons / Bell
FS Culver / Wilson
Obviously you would want to supplement your personnel through the draft, but sometimes it takes rookies time to grow, learn, and adjust to the NFL. These are modifications with just the current personnel available, assuming an offseason to learn new techniques/ new positions.
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Like the idea but,
wake is definitely not an inside linebacker. He is a pure outside pass rushing LB. If you put him inside he would have to cover TE’s and slot receivers, which the passing game is his biggest weakness. Starks also tends to get pushed around a little too much at the NT spot…though I think McDaniels might be able to do ok there.
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great points...
I’m just thinking that we’ve got way too many quality DE types and OLB types
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I hear ya
I just think taking him out of his greatest element could potentially kill his production and ruin his confidence is all. Plus, I just love watching him swim by those Tackles every snap he gets. Guy has one of the best swim moves I have ever seen on a LB.
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Way to blow your Chances
With the Saints destroying the Pats. Miami would of had a chance to tie for the Division title by SIMPLY BEATING THE BILLS.
I dont think they blew their chances just yeat soxoff;
They are playing most everyone they are battling in the wild card, they are still very much in it. Of course we would have been in a great spot if we had won on Sunday, but with most other teams losing as well, we still have a shot.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Also to add to that
We have to play those teams anyway, whether our record is 6-5 or 5-6 isnt going to matter as much as what our record is over the last 5 games
If we can find a way to go 5-0 or 4-1 in the last 5 games, I like our chances
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 1, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Defense has been inconsistent this season....
so has the offense, but here is something that is really intriguing
despite my and other peoples’ negativity after the loss Sunday, the Dolphins are still very much in the hunt due to losses by Jacksonville, Houston, New England and Pittsburgh.
the #6 seed right now is 6-5, we are 5-6. Someone said 9-7 wont make it to the playoffs, now I am not so sure, but look at our remaining schedule; we play most everyone we are battling with for a wild card.
New England is up first, and is very important with the Pats getting beat up by the Saints last night, a win gets us to within a game with 4 to play, still possible.
Also our last 4 games are all against teams we are battling with in the wildcard
Jacksonville (6-5), Tennessee (5-6), Houston (5-6), Pittsburgh (6-5)
First two of those 4 games are on the road, final to at home. We still have a shot at the playoffs if we take care of our business, easier said then done of course, but we still have a shot
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 1, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 1, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions
Schemes?
I wonder if our issues is the schemes we have used as we have played a bunch of rookies and had injuries. I don’t mind vontae and smith getting beat, especially when they are asked to have man to man on stud WRs. I like that they will learn that way but we get torched by every TE too. where are all our playmakers?
Back to the draft
I still think we could have gone younger on defense with one more pick in the 2nd round. I thin that the pat White pi was a bad move. nd I am not saying he may not have a future, but to be honest I feel that getting Clint Sintim would have been a better choice. Also this is a young team, and every time I see how bad we are doing I just keep thinking about how bad the Titans were a few years back. They were hot garbage to say the least, then all of the sudden they are real contenders. They build that team pretty much from the draft. Its young and has many years of playing they can do. I like to think of our team the same way. We are young, and another year under our belt will do us good. We are gelling more and more. Let Taylor and Porter get less snaps and give it to our younger guys. We need pressure. And when we apply it we are successful. The corners are coming around. And as far Safety goes if we could ever get a Palomalu type safety that would be awesome. The draft is only a few months away. And i think our biggest concerns should be defense still. I would like to see our defense become something similar to the Ravens. NT and a roaming ILB is what we need. I say address those two positions first with either Terrence Cody, Brandon Spikes, Rolando McClain, or Ndamukong Suh. Any of these guys would add something new to our defense.
Corners
I totally disagree with the notion to bring in a veteran corner to replace either Davis or Smith. Makes no sense to me. Have they struggled? No doubt about it. But, I can assure you that premier corners like Champ Bailey struggled as well in their rookie seasons. Even the solid tandem that we had, Surtain and Madison, went through growing pains before becoming the best cornerback duo in the league for a while. I personally think that these two young guys have more than held their own, and will be get better from game to game and season to season.
I am more disappointed with the play of a guy like Channing Crowder. To be honest, I wasn’t all that thrilled when he was resigned in the off-season. To me, he is good for 4-5 solid plays a game and that’s it. I think he one of the worst coverage linebackers in the league. He just in not getting it done from my vantage point.
Now, as far as this week against New England, it is absolutely a must win if any talk of the playoffs is to persist. Can the Fins rise up and stun the Patriots? I really don’t know. We are going to either get a Patriots team that is still stunned from their drubbing in New Orleans and having to play on a short week, or we are going to get a New England team that is just plain mad and looking to hang 50 on us. I sure hope it is the latter.
we need
NT, ILB, WR and a new defensive coordinator..just my 5 cents
I think we should really consider bring in Romeo Crennel
growing up in PA, I saw alot of Browns and Steelers games. I was very impressed on the blitz packages.
I’d like to draft a defensive player in the first round…and maybe the second. But…we still need to get a WR…but maybe we can fix that with a FA or trade.
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I would take Romeo as our DC
but we need to Draft a NT 1st rd move up if we have to get a franchise player. This is our biggest need with no questions asked, if need be throw in will allen or bell to sweeten the deal if we need to get a top 5 guy.
Inside linebacker is a must. being a hurricane fan i wanted vilma when he was available.. I think we also need to look at guard 2nd -4th rd we have health issues with smiley,
to many areas but you have to admit we are a much better team than last year although the record doesnt show it. our schedules are on opposite sides of the spectrum
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Toughest Loss of the Season
A few thoughts about both our offense and Defense:
1) Offense – we have no skill players. We need better WR’s and a better TE. Without them, teams just line up to stop the run. When we have a lead, we can’t pound the rock and run out the clock because other teams are ready for it and it’s easy to stop.
2) Defense – we need LB’s. We can’t cover big athletic TE’s (maybe we because our “O” doesn’t have one for the “D” to practice against?) and our LB’s are our weak link. I posted before the season that of JT, JP, Roth and Wake, we couldn’t be sure that any of them would be back in 2010. I wish Wake would start and I wish JT and JP would get cut like Roth. We need to draft at least one starting inside LB.
Even though our record is worse, I still that this year’s team is better than last year’s. And 2010 will be even better than 2009.
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Dec 1, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions
Much of what's been said I agree with.
We need a good ILB for sure and to me, a good defense gets built up the middle first. So, that’s possibly a NG and safeties as well. I feel like the Dolphins are destined to be a young team, therefore they should concentrate on the draft and lets please leave free agency alone this year. No more Ernest WIlfords or Gibril “puke” WIlsons. Some young, cheap up and coming players would be cool though.
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Here's what is most shocking to me...
not that we are giving up 25 points a game (though that is awful!!!) but worse still, we give up basically half of those 25, in one single quarter – that being the 4th quarter.
Want to lose a lot of games in the NFL consistently? Then be a defense that regularly disappears late in the game.
The yards per attempt metric and just how bad it is for this D are personified darn near perfectly by the Indy game. What did Manning do, 300 yards………….on 14-15 completions? Unbelievable. Throw in the saints game and there you have it.
I'm not one to say told you so
but the fact of the matter is that our schedule was all about passing teams against our very weak secondary. No one needs to talk about the lack of effective coverage when you have 2 rookie corners, 2 run stopping safeties, and a schedule that includes great offensive players at WR and QB.
We want the playoffs now? We won’t get it with rookie CBs.
Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.
But next year they won't be rookies.
Rebuilding continues.
Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.
the OLBs are old and wear down easily, No solid NT and a lack of good ILBs are the culprit
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I don't think Jason Taylor should start next year... and here's why
Let me start off by saying I love the way Jason Taylor plays and I’ve always been a big fan. I’ve also thought the re-signing of JT this year was a great considering the deal we got on him. But I don’t think he should start next year and here’s why.
Jason Taylor lacks the pass coverage ability. He’s a former DE and he’ll only improve so much at his age. For this reason alone he should be used for situational downs. Pretty much like we planned to use him but then Roth got “hurt”.
I have no idea what Cameron Wakes pass coverage skills are but he’s probably not the answer if he can only pass rush and here’s why.
Players like JT and possibly Cameron limit our flexibility on defense. We need more creativity with the pass rushing and right now we have zero. It’s always JT, Porter, or Wake. Usually two are starting, I don’t think all three have ever started at once. The ILB’s never rush.. or never get there at least.
If I’m the defensive coordinator I can’t think of doing anything creative such as rushing the CB and moving JT into a zone pass coverage defense. Why? Because he’ll get burned.
ILB and OLB are both toss ups, or we need both.
.. meant pass rushing WITH the CB...
CB blitz and dropping JT into zone..

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