#21 vontae davis
by thatcoolguy on Nov 3, 2009 4:21 PM EST
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ok this guy in my heart i beleve will be a top 3 corner in 2 years.......a couple of months before the draft he could of been a top 10 pick what happened i dont know. all i know is that this guy is the perfect prototype and boy is he explosive.....he has the body of a lb the speed of a wr/rb and hits harder than almost anyone in the nfl...i trully think that with a little more discipline he can be a shut down corner in no time.
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hopefully he will be
Though he did mess up on that play with cotchery
Can't wait untill Sean Smith puts Randy Moss on his ass lol, Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club.
by jojo phin fan on Nov 3, 2009 4:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
everybody's man crush Sean Smith has messed up a lot too.
Vontae will be the better one of the two. He’s just more physically gifted.
Who can really tell who is going where yet. I see them as a good tandem for a long time to come.
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however, none of that will matter if we don't get ourselves a Marywether
or Polamalu or a ball hawk like that. It’s unbelievable how the Front Office epically failed bringing in Wilson, a hard hitting safety, to play along with Yeremiah Bell, another hard hitting safety. Both with CERO coverage skills. Specially if they knew they’d be starting at least one rookie cb and after seeing how awful our secondary was last year. EPIC FAIL
I know we have Clemons, but still, we got a huge amount of money tied up to
both Bell (the most overrated player on this team by far) and Wilson
yes unfortunately
they could be around for awhile
CP10 and P.Cobbs get well soon
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I wonder? With a non cap year looming you can cut a guy without taking the
huge cap hit.
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We have got two great cover corners, who can help support the run
Now all we need is a play making safety and we’re in business.
Ronnie Brown is the man
We could have that with Clemons.
He showed some promise against The Jests!
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agreed
vontae smith and clemmons all look good
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what I like is they all have great speed and good cover skills
everything else can be coached. Smith is pure finesse, Vontae is dirty and gritty and a hell of a hard hitter, Clemons is a little of both.
What I like about Clemons is his speed. He can be taught how to tackle, but as long as he gets wherever he needs to be in a flash, he can be really good.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
hopefully
better…
CP10 and P.Cobbs get well soon
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Maybe Madison and Surtain were just a precursor
to the glory that Smith and Davis shall achieve.
Although Madison and Surtain have much cooler names, so it’s not likely.
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by Dave.Phuller on Nov 4, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't go so far as to say he's built like a linebacker,
maybe a Safety.
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I Don't think it will take 2 years
I think by next year he and Smith will be top 10 Corners.
Him and Smith still need their time we are asking two rookies to cover
WR’s like Coleston,Edwards,Crotchery(hee hee),Evans and Owens,Moss Welker,White,Ward,Holmes etc these guys have a tough group and really have been holding their own it is the TE’s that have really been killing us hopefully wecan put and end to that oh and a couple of lb’s that can drop back into coverage would be nice as well
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Shockey especially has been having a killer year for a TE. Guy just seems infinitely bigger than usual too.
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Yeah he sure is guy is most def one of the best out there
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by Foy on Nov 3, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hes finally focused on football like he was at the U and hes dominating again.
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all i know is the dude can tackle
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by el presidente 00 on Nov 3, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions
vontae davis..more physically gifted?
that makes no sense, because hes faster and more explosive doesn’t make him more gifted..
you cant make up for 6’3.5" with the vertical and play-making ability of Sean Smith
They are both gifted in 2 completely different ways and its why they will be a great tandem for along time, with Smith in the boundary and Vontae as primary or “lock down” for #1’s its gonna be a tough team to pass on.. Plus eventually when the FO gets them a FS who can actually make plays? pfff GG NFL
vontae davis..more physically gifted?
that makes no sense, because hes faster and more explosive doesn’t make him more gifted..
you kind of answered the question yourself. But no, it was probably just a coincidence that Vontae was considered a top 10 talent and Smith was picked late in the second round….
Sean Smith
has that Cromartie type impact, im simply saying that Sean Smith can learn and train to be more explosive and faster, Vontae cannot grow 4 inches
Oh yea clearly what round you were chosen in means what? considering Vontae has been beat out by SS since Day 3 of training camp.
Vontae’s Brother is a perfect example, explosive speed, power and strength isnt everything..
yeah but when developed properly, you can turn into an elite player
you do realize Vernon Davis right now is the best TE in football right?
We are talking about being physically gifted or not, so yes, what round you are chose means who’s got elite physical ability and who doesn’t
keep in mind that most CB
dont start their rookie year, and usually takes them 2 years to evolve shut down corners.
Vernon Davis?
you do realize Vernon Davis right now is the best TE in football right?
Umm.. What? I really know that you didn’t mean that.
Regardless either way, SS has shown big boy play potential, until Vontae does you cant really make assumptions. Lets make sure this kid has his head on straight and give him a few years before anointing him a future top 3 CB. What are we Jets fans?
I'm with Mau
Now that Vernon has his head on straight, there hasn’t been any one TE that you can say has played better than him this year. Don’t forget he also has a couple of no talents at QB. Both corners however are going to be beasts in their own rights!!!
thanks haha. Uhm you make a good point there Suspect.
Aside from being impressed with his physical abilities, I’ve been critical of Vontae this season. He got his job taken from a 2nd round rookie and hasn’t really showed much on the field. So you are right “until Vontae shows big play potential, we can’t really make assumptions”. Yes as of now, in my book, Vontae is not worth a 1st round pick more than Kenny Britt or Jeremy Maclin. But I do see him evolving into a great CB. So let’s see what happens.
big play potential?
like when he studied game film, knew that Buffalo liked to start drives with a little out route, waited until he saw the receiver plant his inside foot hard, and made a pick 6?
You’re right, he hasn’t shown any big play potential yet.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
Shockey? He may not have the yards/TDs, but the Saints can count on him for moving the ball into the redzone in uber-clutch situations.
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Lol, agreed Mau
But lets stop callin Vernon the best TE in the game, yea hes had 7 TD’s and has been very good since Alex Smith took over, hes still being outgained by 8 other TE’s. Enough with that stuff
Vernon Davis has been amazing this year!
I honestly felt like the 49ers just weren’t using him enough in their scheme. Plus Mike Nolan had no control over him.
We need a #1 wideout in Miami... Arrelious Benn in 2010!
I think Vontae's shown up as someone worthy of a #25 pick
But it’s the little things I am seeing from him. He successfully covered Colston at the goal against NO, made a ST shoestring tackle on a Saints return man who was about to take it to the house, and he showed excellent technique against Braylon Edwards on that fade pattern last weekend.
For a guy who is a rookie, I am not sure if we could really ask for more out of him. He clearly loves this team and wants to improve his game every week. He does something stupid about once a game, but he’s still learning.
I desperately wanted to draft him, and I knew we had a good one when he laid down the wood to Jericho Cotchery.
We need a #1 wideout in Miami... Arrelious Benn in 2010!
by kmb8488 on Nov 4, 2009 11:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
As for Sean Smith
He’s had his bumps, too. But let’s also keep in mind that in eight weeks Smith has seen:
-Roddy White
-Reggie Wayne
-Vincent Jackson
-Terrell Owens
-Braylon Edwards
-Numerous Saints receivers
And now he’s going to see Randy Moss this weekend. Seriously, we’re doing this a rookie. I think he’s been impressive and will continue to learn.
We need a #1 wideout in Miami... Arrelious Benn in 2010!
yea
like when he studied game film, knew that Buffalo liked to start drives with a little out route, waited until he saw the receiver plant his inside foot hard, and made a pick 6?
Who hasn’t intercept Trent Edwards? I know Stanford is not a football powerhouse but when < harvard theres problems.
Admittedly it is a nice play and im not saying hes not gonna be a nice player, but judging from this moment in time SS has been better. Bottom line
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