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Should the Dolphins consider bringing back Chris Chambers?

Incase you haven't heard, the Chargers have released receiver Chris Chambers.  Chambers, as you all know, spent the first six and a half years in Miami as a Dolphin - even earning a Pro Bowl appearance in 2005.  But he was also a serious under-achiever as a Dolphin, with his performance never really matching the talent his possessed.  In San Diego, it has been much of the same.

But, of course, Chambers has already been linked to the Dolphins - both by fans and even by one of the most trusted NFL insiders in the business.  Dolphin fans seem to be very interested in bringing back the 31 year old receiver.  And ESPN's Adam Schefter even said during Monday Night Countdown that the Dolphins and Ravens could be potential landing spots for Chambers.  Of course, Cam Cameron, Baltimore's offensive coordinator, was also the head coach of the Dolphins when they traded Chambers away in 2007.

So let's talk about this for a moment.  First off, here's the current situation.  Chambers must pass through waivers first.  Teams have until 4 pm on Tuesday to put in a waiver claim on Chris.  If a team claims him, they must pay him the remaining portion of his 2009 salary, roughly $2.4 million.  If Chambers passes through waivers unclaimed, then any team can sign him at any time at a negotiated price tag.

We know that GM Jeff Ireland will strongly consider every "acorn" that shakes free and Chambers is definitely an acorn that needs some consideration.  The Dolphins are simply not very well situated at the receiver position and Chambers could be the veteran this team needs.  Then again, he might be exactly what the Dolphins do not need.

Chambers only has 9 receptions this season for 122 yards.  Since 2008, Chambers has 42 catches for 584 yards and 6 touchdowns.  But he's been targeted 95 times which means he's catching under 45% of the passes thrown his way.  We also all know that it's not uncommon for Chris to drop a pass or two...or ten.  According to STATS, Chambers has dropped 4 passes this season - or 13% of the balls thrown his way.  For a comparison, Ted Ginn has 5 dropped balls on 41 targets, resulting in a 12% drop rate.  If everyone is going to kill Ginn for his "inconsistency" then I think we need to be fair and recognize that Chambers has been even worse.

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Let's also think about this.  The Chargers are releasing him for a reason.  They didn't have to release him.  And San Diego might even have to pay him that $2.4 million as a termination payment if Chambers is not claimed by another team.  But even with that said, the Chargers were willing to cut ties with the former Pro Bowl receiver.  And that means Malcom Floyd will join Vincent Jackson as a starting receiver for the Chargers.  San Diego's new third receiver is now Legedu Naanee.  By the way, those two receivers - Floyd and Naanee - have combined for 92 career receptions.  And yet, the Chargers were still willing to part ways with Chambers.

Doesn't that say a lot about Chris and what he might have left?

Lastly, while the Dolphins don't have any real veteran receiver and clearly need an upgrade at the position, what does bringing Chambers aboard solve?  You bring him aboard and suddenly you're taking playing time away from the young receivers - Brian Hartline and Davone Bess, for example - and restricting their development.  There's also another rookie, Patrick Turner, who is getting closer and closer to seeing game snaps.  Tony Sparano said on Monday that Turner has put together a couple of "solid weeks of practice" and is getting "better and better" and added that "sooner or later we'll see him."

If we were talking about a veteran who could come in and be the number one receiver this team needs, then I'd be all for signing that player.  The problem?  Chris Chambers is not that player.  No need to go try and recapture the past by bringing back an aging receiver.  After all, do you see the Dolphins reaching out to Sam Madison or Patrick Surtain?  No, not even after they lost Will Allen for the season.  They want to let the young corners play.  I get the feeling they probably feel the same way about the receivers.

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I agree Matty

Chris isn’t that “vet WR” we are looking for. I really think he is done.

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by Neo on Nov 3, 2009 12:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree

He’s not a fighter for the ball. Don’t bring him in.

by gophish on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, If we do TRY to get a Vet, Im sure they wouldve tried to get Boldin earlier or Brandon Marshall a while back. I know we need at least 2 top recievers but I am confident in Hartline, Turner as our future, but next year a Vet wouldnt hurt. Look at Pennington, he took Henne under his wing and now Henne is doing alright. The defensive line last year were really young but due to the vets in Holliday, Starks and Ferguson our YOUNG D line is doing Solid.

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by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Nov 3, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and going after chambers

is going after a vet, isn’t it? if bess has another week of drops/fumbles consider him gone IMO.

by Inkwell on Nov 3, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chambers is NOT the answer....

Bringing Chambers back is just asking for more bitching, whining and moaning for the fan base…

Sure, we all remember the one handed highlight reel grabs, but we forget the drops, the drops, the drops, and Ted Ginn disappearing act. But give him one game, and we’ll then be cussing out 2 WR’s

We don’t need him, if we are going to bring in a vet, bring in a vet that is still viable.

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bess is a great player

prob our best OVERALL WR IMO. Although he seems to be more succesful catching from CP then Henne. If he can’t hold on the ball he could be demoted tho.

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by BSerious72 on Nov 3, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

inkwell

uh duh I said get a Vet next year, not this year because chambers is not reliable and the reason I SAID next year is because we can get a better reciever through Free agency or trade. If bess drops the ball maybe we can trade him for something lol if he is worth something still

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by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Nov 3, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

great post matty

u opened my eyes i guess we shouldnt get chris chambers hey can u believe they still all over ted ginn for those 2 KO returns ha it feels good seing a dolphin being talked about

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by DPL3 Rollin on Nov 3, 2009 12:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Not interested. The last thing we need is someone to come in and show our receivers how to juggle everything thrown their way. Getting Vet help is one thing but Chambers? No thanks.

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by ShadyMDUK on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I understand but somewhat disagree

Chambers has always had his share of amazing plays and some drops but look at Braylon Edwards, was twice as bad as chambers last year and started off bad this year too now all of a sudden he seems back to his pro bowl caliber self.

2nd This dolphins staff makes great out of good for the most part. I think with parcells and co could help him become a once again great receiver.

3rd san diego needed a 2 make room because of injuries and didnt want to pay the money he was owed so they wanted to cut him.
Idk, it might be just cause Ive always been a fan of Chambers, and he is always amazing against the pats which is who we face next.

And besides we signed wilford last year who wasnt even half the reciver chambers was so y not give him a one year shot and see what happens? I think he could be great for this team but I’m a little byist cause of the performance ive seen from him both as a fin and bolt.

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by HawkFire89 on Nov 3, 2009 12:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

another counterpoint....

wouldn’t Ginn on one side and Chambers on the other help keep 9 out of the box? The Jets threw everything at us on Sunday and essentially stopped the Wildcat. As much as Ryan is a dope for other reasons, he does know how to slow Wildcat down. Without a change at receiver, is the Wildcat done for this year, once everyone starts to copy the Jets gameplan from Sunday? Sure CC wouldn’t come right in and know the offense but just a counterpoint.

by coloradokevin on Nov 3, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

shake up at WR

Trifecta could bring him if he passes through waivers, just to get all the other WR’s attention, especially Bess who seems a little pre-occupied now.

by coloradokevin on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how bringing him in can hurt, and...

both as a wakeup call to the others and as a decoy to keep 9 out of the box are both good enough reasons for me.

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by SunDolphin on Nov 3, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You think a released receiver from a pass heavy offense who has trouble catching the ball, and can’t get open is a decoy?

Hmmm….

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont' see how it can hurt to try him

Do you think for a 3-4 team where none of the recievers can catch a ball, that it really matters if we add another guy who can’t? It’s a bet I’d take because we’ve got little to lose. It’s not like he can come in and be the first one to drop a pass and lose us a game. Maybe he’ll prove something, maybe we’ll get lucky.

Even if he sucks horribly, it changes nothing. But if he’s at least decent…opens up our entire offense.

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by SunDolphin on Nov 3, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it can hurt the team....

And we’re a 4-4 team, not 3-4.

As it stands right now we’ve got young guys in starting positions, none of them are a true #1, but if you were to bring in ANOTHER WR who has troubles catching the ball, isn’t a true #1, and has never really performed up to his potential…..what are you saying to your young guys?

Do you think Hartline, Cam, Bess are oblivious to the fact that Chambers is not a quality WR? They know as well as we do exactly how inconsistent and bad he’s played…… so bringing him in tells your young guys, “Look we know he isn’t very good, but he gives us a better chance to win then you”.

Talk about a shot to the nuts. Its a BAD idea.

If it was a decent WR…thats a different story. But this is Chris Chambers.

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you’re just being a pessimest.

by bjchit on Nov 3, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm being a realist....big difference.

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 3, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I want the dolphins to sign him

Whatever the stats may be for chambers not having a great season so far, I could care less. We need chambers, and I really see us signing him.

by MikeyPhin on Nov 3, 2009 12:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Chambers is not the answer, Marvin Harrison

is much better and is a free agen. The man just wants to get paid which is something Miami wouldnt do. If were are going to get an older Vet receiver, Harrison is the guy. He has veteran leadership, can jump right in and make a difference, excellent route runner and is a possesion receiver.

by g35phin on Nov 3, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Except that Harrison

is wanting #1 receiver money and a multi-year deal. I doubt that the Trifecta would want to put a multi-year big money deal out for a guy his age who has had multiple injuries in the past.

I see the Dolphins shopping for a WR in free agency next offseason. Possibly a trade, but I think free agency is more likely.

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by Chupathingy on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least

Chambers never had anyone killed. Allegedly .

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by phyrmun on Nov 3, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They released him because they feel like the other two guys in there

can do the same job, or better, that he was doing on the field, thus liberating an extra roster spot for “defense or special teams” – like Norv Turner said- while keeping the younger guys instead of the veteran who is underachieving. However, they had the luxury of doing that ONLY because Malcolm Floyd and Neegedu Naane are both HUGE. Floyd at 6"5 and Naane a Tight End convert. So both are an excellent aid for number 1 receiver Vincent Jackson. Bottom line: For them it was a luxury they could take, because they have the personnel to make up for it. But we don’t. Let alone that we already established Ginn is not a receiver, but Bess, Cam and Hartline are pretty similar 2s and 3s. Not to mention Turner can’t even get dressed for game day yet, for whatever reason. So we could really use that physical target in the end zone, considering our limitations. He knows JT ,Porter, Crowder and Bell, which are some of the stronger leaders on the team, so he’d have no trouble getting acclimated. I say go for it.
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by MauMontaV5 on Nov 3, 2009 1:04 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Let's be honest about Chris Chambers

He always had hands of stone … making one or 2 amazing catches every year doesn’t negate all the balls that hit him in the hands and he dropped over the years. I would take Ted Ginn as a number 1 receiver over Chambers if they were the last 2 receivers on the planet earth. At least with Ginn you have speed and playmaking ability. It seems like all our receivers have a case of the drops lately(or fumbilitis). We need to look at a TE and WR in the draft or free agency next year for sure …

by Jason Scott_90 on Nov 3, 2009 1:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree and great post Keith

Looks like Matty just published it. Well said and worded correctly in regards to someone who did put his body in warms way for 6 and a half seasons. I’ll never overlook anyone that has lined up for us and not appreciate the risk they take but 31 is 31. The trifecta isn’t interested in someone who won’t be here when they realisticly see us competing for a title. They know we’re not ready and we all know we aren’t ready yet. Could we get on a roll and win the division? Sure.

If we are going to win its going to be with the men that have put it on the line since the offseason. This team’s biggest strength is their chemistry. Hartline is showing progress, Bess will bounce back, maybe Ginn keeps fighting for his job and Cam is consistent. Turner is in line next if a mix up is needed and if that doesn’t work we won’t know for at least a few more weeks. At that point its either full steam ahead or back to the drawing board.

In the end Chambers doesn’t make us any better and curbs the development of 5 young players who can continue to grow chemistry with Henne.

Chambers has had a career of what Bess has been doing for 2 weeks and Ginn since he’s got here. It would be a terrible example for them because Chambers isn’t going to warp into something he’s never been, esspecially at 31.

by special agent wildcat on Nov 3, 2009 1:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Chambers > Camarillo

at least Chambers gets open

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by Souwantmyname on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Matty

I just think its past him, i would rather see Patrick Turner get the reps. Let this young team grow together, we can have a super team if we continue to build on this.

Chambers has played very bad this year, not sure why that would suddenly change with a growing QB in Miami.

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by MoLimits on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chambers is not the same player he was when he played for the Dolphins.

He’s never had great hands or breakaway speed. He’s also been injury plagued since he went to SD. I don’t see him as an upgrade to any of our current receivers.

by luvs2drnk on Nov 3, 2009 1:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m on the fence about signing him or not since it can either be a great investment for a couple years or just a bust
The arguement i’d like to bring up is B. Edwards!
He was struggling for the Browns(and god they need help!) but he did upgrade the Jets pass game.
Now the reason it doesn’t seem like it is because Fat Rex is trying to have Sanchez force feed the ball to him
I say if we alternate between Chambers, Ginn, Fasano and Bess we could have something goin for the passing game

Do our recievers exist? Ginn crawls out the hole, Bess is stumbling but hope is not lost.
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by dolfan0918 on Nov 3, 2009 1:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

let turner play

Its not like charlie anderson is doing anything these days let turner take his spot on the active roster

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by jojo phin fan on Nov 3, 2009 2:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Turner will not help our team this year

He’s gotta make a splash in the offseason training camps working on his routes and seperation and come up big next year. Otherwise he’s no different then Derek Hagan. I am not expecting big things from Turner, I think Hartline is our best shot at rookie starter, but I hope the kid proves me wrong.

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by BSerious72 on Nov 3, 2009 4:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hate to say it

but I agree, he’s not the answer and we shouldn’t bother wasting our time. Let the rookies Hartline and Turner play and hopefully Bess and Camarrillo start playing like they did last year. I don’t know what we should do with Ginn other then keep him returning Kick offs.

by Maguss on Nov 3, 2009 2:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let's not!!!

Loved Chambers when he was wearing aqua and orange, but his days with those colors are in the past.

Please stop comparing this guy to Edwards!!!! He is not close to what Edwards is. Edwards is 5 years younger then him and can make catches.

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by hammy1016 on Nov 3, 2009 2:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here's what I remember of Chris Chambers

He would flash that great ability on first or second down, no problem, great receiver right?

Then it gets to pressure time on 3rd down, or in the red zone, and he couldn’t catch a cold in a third world hospital.

No thanks.

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by ratenxs on Nov 3, 2009 2:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think there is a chance they may however....

I believe Miami should consider rotating Ginn and Hartline on drives while also allowing Turner to get some snaps in place of Bess. Also has Miami used a four reciever set this year? I do not recall if they have, however imagine Ginn and Bess opposite Camarillo (Wes Welker Jr.) and Hartline. This could cause defense to shift coverage including linebackers. Camarillo has sure hands and Ginn would have fewer people to outrun.

Back on topic, Chambers was a Dolphin for several years and has endeared himself to many fans for that simple fact alone, however if he is unable to perform than he is only making it harder for us when there is already work to be done.

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by Richard V on Nov 3, 2009 3:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bring the vet in

Hartline and Turner are not doing anything yet, so sure, bring in the vet, see what he can do. At corner we are doing much better, I think Smith and Davis are going to be all right this year.

by Ganymede on Nov 3, 2009 3:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

There was a reason he was let go.....

Chambers would make some of the most spectacular grabs, but then when he was hit between the numbers he never caught the ball. Don’t bring in a guy who is only able to make a few catches at most. We have guys that are getting better. Just not fast enough to suit the fans unfortunately.

by auburn tigers make great dolphins on Nov 3, 2009 5:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chambers

I can’t believe anyone is considering him. I don’t like ragging on Ginn, but Chambers and Ginn are like two peas in a pod. Neither of them can catch very well.

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by joneilthe2 on Nov 3, 2009 8:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

.... i dont care

right now we have
- 1 WR who can stretch the field
- 3 WR who are pure slot/posession receivers
- 1 WR who is tall but cant get active

what we lack is talent, size, speed and a guy who can run routes and get open

Chambers, even if he lost a step still brings that to the table.

he might drop a few – who doesnt but he ll make tuff catches and give Henne a WR to look at on 3rd down.

i say get him, tell him to mentor Ginn and Turner and if he passed waiver he ll come for cheap

by Crowder 911 on Nov 3, 2009 8:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

We have a receiver to look at on 3rd down

Greg Camarillo is the most dependable one we got, no way Id throw to Chris “stone hand” Chambers over Greg.

by metalhead86 on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd just like to see something different. There's at least a CHANCE that he can play better than what we have, so why not

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by Farorefox on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

just sign him

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by samdaman on Nov 3, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Two questions

Is Miles Austin a FA next year and what does Dallas’ cap situation look like for next year with the Ware signing?

by qbinfin on Nov 3, 2009 8:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Austin is staying in Dallas. Uncapped year will insure that, and Jones has been meeting with his agent already.

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by Farorefox on Nov 3, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think we make it to an uncapped year.

I wouldn’t mind it seeing that our owner is the 2nd wealthiest owner in the nfl. However, there is too much money to by lost by too many wealthy people to allow that to happen. So I guess we will wait and see if they have enough cap room for him because if not I promise you he is in Miami next year.

by qbinfin on Nov 3, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alright this is my first post

Alright i just want to say i do think we should sign chambers, he gives us at least a possible play maker even if he drops passes. But to get to my real point, i am really need to point out, it is great to develop rookie and young wide outs, if you look at what we have to develop. Hartline which is G. Camarillo a couple years younger and in my mind will both make great “slot” receivers, much like wes welker, with out that strange burst the welker has. Devon bess i think has potential to be like a tj houshmandzadeh and has great hands and great potential despite his lack of focus in the past couple games, but i have faith in him and i think we should invest time in him (don’t think he should return kicks). Alright now to my point about Patrick turner, i am really unsure why we drafter this guy. He is a tight end at the WR position, he is about as fast as a 4 cylinder dump truck with two flat tires, and he blocks like randy moss… I like the guy and i think he will be a good slot receiver but as i said we already have 2 of those which i think will be better. Alright so to sum up what i am saying, we have one number 2 wide out, and 3 number 3’s. We really need to pick out who we want and invest time in them. I am a fan of Ginn and Chamber’s, ginn is the only wide out on are team that possess that must needed #1 wide out speed, he keeps the safeties honest and help the run game, to bad he was given the hands of a blind chimp. So with this said i think we should sign chambers as a temp fix for this season and then obtain a true number one wide out keep gin ass our kick returner and 4th wide out. Develop bess as our number 2, and see whose got more game between Hartline and Camarillo. Alright that’s what i got for now sure i have something to else to say after i post this. Sorry about the length.

by NathanHerbig on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Miles Austin, Dallas Cowboys, FA

damn do i look good now :) i was telling everybody Miles Austin is the real deal, he got the big frame but more important the FRAME + SPEED combo we lack.

Dallas used a RFA Tender and protected him with a 2nd rounder with the struggles of Roy Williams etc i fear that there is no way they let him hit the FA market.

im not so sure – if Dallas got big bucks to spend with Jerry Stadium etc
and they have quiet some FA – they cant afford to lose (Defensive End)

here a overview of all 2010 FA’s

Quarterback Age Free Agency Year
Jon Kitna 36 2010

Wide Receiver Age Free Agency Year
Miles Austin 25 2010
Sam Hurd 24 2010

Offensive Tackle Age Free Agency Year
Pat McQuistan 26 2010

Guard Age Free Agency Year
Cory Procter 26 2010
Montrae Holland 29 2010

Defensive End Age Free Agency Year
Marcus Spears 26 2010
Jason Hatcher 27 2010
Stephen Bowen 25 2010

Nose Tackle Age Free Agency Year
Junior Siavii 30 2010

Cornerback Age Free Agency Year
Alan Ball 24 2010

Safety Age Free Agency Year
Gerald Sensabaugh 26 2010
Pat Watkins 26 2010

by Crowder 911 on Nov 3, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have extremely strong doubts

that Miles Austin will be going to free agency. Jerry Jones had such a hard on for this guy when he drafted him, he’s not about to let him go. Kind of the same situation like Al Davis has with JaMarcus Russell. Besides, if next season is an uncapped year, they won’t have the restrictions on the salaries they can give out.

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by Chupathingy on Nov 3, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Turner

I am really getting kind of sick of all this Patrick Turner talk, if they guy was any good he would be on the field already given our poor WR Situation. Brian Hartline also a rookie drafted a round behind Turner has been playing this whole time and has not exactly been a game breaker, he is just another Camerillo, Bess type of WR but yet he is playing, and starting now even, but Turner still has not been activated, so that right there should tell you something.

by crzynick25 on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly what i was saying...

Turner is getting a little over hyped by some of our fan base, he obviously isn’t showing up in practice otherwise he would be on the field to see what hes got. We need a number one wide out, ps speed, hands, and route/separation.

by NathanHerbig on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

easy answer

Like Wilford, Turner does not excel at ST. This was no secret when he was drafted so assume he is as advertised in the Trifecta’s eyes. Only difference is Turner is being paid accordingly and Wilford was not. Another difference is the gap in age which alows us to develop him. I’ll try not to hype him anymore but at the same time I certainly won’t forget him offensive potential.

Comparing to Hartline isn’t fair because he can play ST. That got him on the gameday roster and his improvement has gained him offensive snaps. He’s been a pleasant surprise.

I think what we aren’t used to here is the quality in coaching and motivation we have in this staff. In the past if a 3rd round pick wasn’t played right away I’d say he was a bust. Now with our staff its safe to say they determined that he wouldn’t make a difference compared to the current WRs. I’d like to think that the work he’s doing now behind the scenes is turning him into something no one saw coming out of USC.

They don’t want 5 WRs active and they won’t give up on Cam, Bess or Ginn without them injuring themselves or showing a lack of progress. Passing over someone who’s done everything you ask with decent results for a rookie would only here hurt team chemistry. Same reason why CP remained starter this season.

All I know is that this staff has integrity and passing over good soldiers isn’t their style. Let someone fail before you yank them. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

I trust the trifecta and I know they have a plan. The first step in that plan is to maintain team chemistry. Signing Chambers or elevating a rookie that can’t play ST would undermine everything thesy stress. Turner will get his chance when then feel he can make a difference or when someone fails.

No hype, just hope.

by special agent wildcat on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

@ crzynick25

the reason why he isnt is special teams – how many times did we get burned last season by our special teams unit??? Sparano wont let happen that anymore thats why he is very senstivie about who can do what on special teams.

look at Cam Wake, he had a huge impact vs the Bills but struggled to get active before because of his poo special teams play.

by Crowder 911 on Nov 3, 2009 9:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

PS: NO WAY THERE IS GOING TO BE AN UNCAPPED YEAR

guys, forget it – not gonna happen.

there is no way that there is going to be an uncapped year. that would destroy the NFL.

ps: thank god our owner is a rich ass yank :)

by Crowder 911 on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

ageed

Too many players will be hurt by it due to the extension of RFAs and too many players will be hurt by teams taking advantage of going low. Remember no cap means no floor as well.

Give Tagliabue credit, they put the proper safeguards in place in order to avoid no cap.

No way goes De Smith create his legacy by destroying the cap. Its too risky from a player’s standpoint although owners could easily ride through it.

by special agent wildcat on Nov 3, 2009 9:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

You're a lot of wonderful things Matty

but a Franchise QB you will never be bud because you don’t have a “short memory”.

by firedanhenningnow on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

pick up the acorn

What does it cost us. we can cut one of those bottom 53 players try him out for a couple of weeks. If he delivers then he is worth 200k a week if he does not then cut him. At the end of the day you cut some player that has no impact on this team for a chance at a big improvement in an area of need.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

and our Owner is a rich Yank :) swing the visa mr. ross

jesus give Henne at least a target to throw to. and sorry to tell but Chambers is still capable of doing circus catches 90% of the others are nto able to.

yeah he ll drop a few but – who doesnt

+ he always loved to play for MIA and was heart broken when he was shipped to SD :) he ll give his all

by Crowder 911 on Nov 3, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ummm...

 I remember Chambers complaining about the constant coaching turnover especially at OC. I also rememeber him looking and speaking like a rejuvenated man once they traded him. Can’t blame him though, SD is heaven even compared to South Florida.

by special agent wildcat on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

2.4 mil which is too much

From a roster development standpoint the cost is priceless.

by special agent wildcat on Nov 3, 2009 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

2.4 million to invest in our young WRs who could stand to learn from him

and also someone to throw at on wildcat plays.

also don’t forget, chambers can throw the ball people.

by Inkwell on Nov 3, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think we can't underestimate

the benefit of having a veteran WR on the team to help the receivers grow. Look at the positions where young players are making a big positive impact on the team this year. Henne had Pennington to learn from (and I’m sure he still does even though CP10 is on IR). The rookie corners have Will Allen, an 8-year vet, to learn from (and I’m sure they do even though Allen is on IR). Langford, Merling, Starks, and the other playmakers on the D-line have Jason Ferguson and Jason Taylor to learn from. Then you look at the WRs and the most veteran one is Camarillo with only 4 years under his belt. Even if Chambers winds up as our 4th or 5th receiver this season, he’ll provide the veteran leadership and advice that is key for young players developing. In other words, regardless of the stats he puts up, he may be worth it simply because he could make our current WRs better. So long as the price is right, what do we have to lose?

by Saxonthebeach on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

this.

regardless of the stats he puts up, he may be worth it simply because he could make our current WRs better. So long as the price is right, what do we have to lose?

by Inkwell on Nov 3, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

stay with young guys but, chargers stats misleading

I think the reality of this comes down to how much time Henne gets to throw. I have always like Chambers and have followed his time with the chargers, and I think there is something to how he was utilized in San Deigo that makes his stats look bad. Rivers doesn’t do reads, no check downs at all, in my mind he is one of the most overated players in the league. He takes a three step drop and throws it to Gates seven yards down the field or throws it up for Vincent, unless its a designed screen. Chambers is always downfield and gets a lot of the safe overthrows/throw it aways. The way they run thier offense he could be replaced by anyone because he is not really in the gameplan or Rivers mind. There is probalbly a reason for that, but I think the reason is everyone else on thier roster is huge and open earlier, closer to the QB who has no mobility and doesn’t like to wait for more than three seconds. While this isn’t a ringing endorsement for Chambers, I think the stat line argument against him has got no teeth. He has made some catches as a dolphin that a lot of other people would have never made outside of Orande Gadsen, especially in the end zone. All that being said I don’t see him being a difference maker(this is a running team), so you might as well go young and cheap who knows how good the younger guys could be.

by AAA on Nov 3, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

No Way

We let him go for a reason, they let him go for a reason, desperation should not lead us backwards.

by oceantracks on Nov 3, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with...

Those of you that want leadership. In my eyes a the perfect leader at WR is an undrafted guy that has moved heaven and earth to create a career for himself. Cam might not be able to tell a young guy how to deal with vet situations but he can set the example. He came back from injury early, really early. Bess also doesn’t have the experience but he does have the adversity. If they need someone to help with dealing with failure go talk to Ginn.

Chambers claim to fame are is circus catches which can’t be taught. ITs a physical gift and no more than a compliment. If combined with speed and consistently. Unfortunately for Chris he consisently dropped the ball in situations a leader catches it in. The speed has dropped as well and at 31 will continue to drop.

If you don’t bite as a pup you won’t as an old dog and all of you know who’s belief that is.

TJ Hous, Coles, Holt and others I’m forgetting all would have been better options. They also would have helped create a smokescreen for a team that loves blowing smoke going into the draft to mask their intentions. We didn’t sniff at any of them and still managed to get 2 WRs on their board.

At 3-4 we’re far from a player away. These guys were content wit the WRs the second the draft ended. Short of a lucky trade or multiple injuries this is who we’ll do battle with. Someone just needs to step up.

by special agent wildcat on Nov 3, 2009 11:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

noooooooooooooooooooooooo

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez

by Patssuck456 on Nov 3, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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Sparano: Joey Porter, What is best in life?

Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez

by Patssuck456 on Nov 3, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Very well said.

NO TO CHRIS CHAMBERS!!!

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by Chupathingy on Nov 3, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed..................

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by Alpha6 on Nov 3, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Get Chambers at 4:00 pm

He is the perfect match to Henne’s few degrees off targets throws.
Chambers has a unique ability: Body Air Mobility to adjust and catch these types of throws . This has been a key liability for the Dolphins air game. So many dropped balls off the fingertips on 15, 20 and over 30 yrd throws. Chambers means 14 more points per game in offense, plus veteran assistance, advice and motivation to younger WRs.
If not #1 WR, certainly #3.
I hope the TUNA, Sparano, LandsharkPartners, Dolphins, and Neptune God of the sea creatures in the Atlantic Ocean bring Chambers back from the Pacific ocean to see action next Sunday against the NEP.
By the way, Congratulations to Ted Ginn, on your 2 TD’s!! and win against teh NYJ.
Let’s go Dolphins, you can do it!!!!!!!!!
LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by dolphantisc on Nov 3, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You're Serious?

Chambers = 14 more points? reeeeeeeeaaaaaalllllllllyyy (in Jim Carey voice)

Hell to the No.

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed... no thanks...

… the draft this coming year is chalk full of really really good receivers… and I’m willing to wait…!

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by Alpha6 on Nov 3, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention the bunch

of them that will be possible free agents this offseason. We have much better options just waiting than taking a chance on a receiver with declining skills that had trouble making catches to begin with.

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by Chupathingy on Nov 3, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you mean

another 14 points per year and I doubt that would even be the case. Even if his aligator arms benefitted Henne, it wouldn’t benefit his development and accuracy. It would serve as a crutch for his inaccuracy and the only way these WRs get better is by Henne getting better. If you want to go after a WR in the 1st or 2nd round next year then w need Henne to improve. Our WRs aren’t great but they arent bad either. They allow for a clear grade on Henne and force Henne to be the difference.

The QB/WR group will grow as a team which gives a true evaluation of their development. Chambers takes away from everything they’ve built with those groups.

by special agent wildcat on Nov 3, 2009 12:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

NEW PHINSIDER LOOK IS SEXY AS A MOFO

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by Rzayo24 on Nov 3, 2009 12:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes.... the new look site is much better...

… seems faster too…

… and much better on mine eyes….

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by Alpha6 on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chambers

You forget why we let him go in the first place. He can’t catch!

John

by joneilthe2 on Nov 3, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

we need help

At this point I think anything is an upgrade. I don’t think any of our WR start on any other team.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Reminds me of my Cross Country team.

Only our top Varsity starter would have made it on another varsity team.

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by Farorefox on Nov 3, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep this in mind as well

I remember Brandon London doing an interview here with Matty. These players watch whats being said about them. If London was aware of this blog then I’m sure at least one of the current guys is aware of it too. I might go look if I was them to see what their fans felt about them as well as replacing one of them.

If I was one of them I’d be insulted that you’d want to replace me with 31 year old Chris Chambers. It would demotivate me.

Luckily there’s more than a few here that see the potential in these guys.

by special agent wildcat on Nov 3, 2009 1:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

you still haven't swayed me at all

The points are valid but we are horrendous at receiver and look what happened to that prick edwards. I’m not saying Chris Chambers becomes a pro bowler here but 2 mil aint a lot for a team stacked with celebs like us. It couldn’t hurt to give him a shot

and I’ve given up on Pat Turner. You HAVE to be bad if you cannot get PT as a dolphin wideout

by kazam92 on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how we pass

If we have any desire to make it to the playoffs I don’t see how we pass on upgrading our WR without giving up anything but the 53rd player on the roster.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chambers is NOT an upgrade, its more of the same.

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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly and as far as a mentor goes

I think I would opt for Harrison who can actually catch consistently and runs great routes to teach our young guys instead of the Chambers I remember all to well.I distinctly remember having just taken a drink of water and it going up my nose when I busted out laughing as it was announced that Norv was dumb enough to send us a #2 for him.

by firedanhenningnow on Nov 3, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's only for one year...

I understand the problems Chris Chambers has had the last few years as well as the concerns for the Dolphins signing him. Keep in mind though, our receiving core is young and devoid of a go-to receiver. Will Chris Chambers be that go-to receiver? Maybe, and maybe is good enough for me. The Phins will only need to shell out 2.4M to find out. If he doesn’t work out we won’t be that much worse for wear. If he is effective at all defenses won’t be so quick to stack the box and we may be able to regain our rank of #1 in the NFL’s rushing attack and put Ricky and Ronnie on par for 1,000 yard seasons (an NFL record for tandem backs). More important than breaking records though, the Phins are a good enough team to compete with anybody. We showed that, through losses unfortunately, against the Colts and Saints. If we can turn close losses into close wins there is still a possibility to get to the playoffs. If the Phins had no chance of making the playoffs, I’d say don’t sign him. Our young wideouts would benefit from the playing time. But there is a chance we can make the playoffs, and that chance is dependent on the Phins finding that missing piece of the puzzle. Right now Chris Chambers is the only puzzle piece available, why not pick him up and see if he fits? The potential benefit outweighs the potential risks. If the Phins sweep the Pats and beat some opponents with losing records they have a shot. After last nights offensive performance it’s time to roll the dice.

by WesH on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AMEN

in about 2 hours we can even sign him at a discount.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here is why:

We passed on Boldin
We passed on Marshall
We Passed on Harrison
We Passed on TJ Housh
We Passed on Terrell Owens
We Passed on Braylon Edwards

ALL of these WR’s are better than Chris Chambers….and we passed on them.

What makes anyone think, that we’d go all in for a lesser WR? Where is the logic in that?

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

those all come at a price

The only one available for free (no draft picks or anything) was TO as far as I remember and I think I would still pass on him.

We also passed on a bunch of QB’s but when CP came available they pounced on him.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CP is the most accurate passer in NFL History

If Chambers were the most consistent catcher in NFL History, I’d give him the same shot.
But he’s not.

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because now the WR is really

the spot light.
Tuna and Sparano have a way of pulishing what everybody thought to be crommy gold pieces to shinning and valuable golden trophies, i.e., Rickie Williams and Jason Taylor, thought by many to have passed their greatnes after leaving the Miami Dolphins. BUT, what has developed after their welcome by Tuna and Sparano and Neptune God of sea creatures blessing? Greatness way far out man!!
As far as Chriss Chambers, I can see it again, Tuna, Sparano and Neptune working their rejuvenating juices into Chambers in more angles than one to see him wow us one more year, starting with the NEP next Sunday.
Let’s go Dolphins, you can do it!!!!
LET"S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by dolphantisc on Nov 3, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll be honest with you.....WR is an issue

But its not the WR position that is losing games for us right now.

Its not the WR position that is unable to sustain any of the leads our offense/ST build up.
and its not the WR position that is giving up 30 points a game…..

If we’re going to spend 2.4 million, or sign someone….I’d rather see them build up the other side of the ball….and address the WR position in the offseason.

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"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"

If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?

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by Fr8Train on Nov 3, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

GET JOEY GALLOWAY

by SLYT on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chambers is not part of the masterplan

Fans have a “win-now” mentality, but the management thinks we are at least 2-3 years away from seriously competing – and that’s crucial to understand. Chambers would be a signing for a team that is looking to make a deep run into the playoffs (that’s how the Dolphins were able to trade him for a second-rounder).

It’s hard as a fan to accept that you aren’t planning to win this season, but serious rebuilding has to begin somewhere, and then you can be perennial super-bowl contenders (see: Patriots, Steelers, Giants).

by BayAreafinfan on Nov 3, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

you're missing the point

All you give up for chambers is less playing time for ginn, bess and camarillo and the 53rd person on the roster. That does not affect the master plan.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly my point

Less playing time for ginn, bess, HARTLINE, possibly Turner, and camarillo, who are all young, in exchange for what? A shot at the playoffs?

by BayAreafinfan on Nov 3, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

with that in mind

lets cut JT, ferguson, CP, JP and whoever else is over 30.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Those are hole-pluggers

You can’t expect they’ll all be re-signed when their contract’s expire?

by BayAreafinfan on Nov 3, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hole pluggers

I think everyone on our WR corp are hole pluggers. I don’t see any one of those guys becoming impact players. Like the coach says … if they don’t bite as pups they probably never will.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

Ginn is extremely raw (even 3 years into the league – he’s a KR/PR learning WR), Bess, Hartline, Turner, have a lot of growth left – only Camarillo I would say has hit his ceiling.

So that leaves 4 receivers which I think we do not know definitively how much of their potential has been realized.

by BayAreafinfan on Nov 3, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Hartline and Turner are still rookies that need time to develop and be able to play at the NFL level. I believe Bess will get better, I think he just has to get more comfortable with the difference in throwing style and strength between Henne and Pennington.

I agree with you on Camarillo though, he might have hit his ceiling, but he can still be a solid receiver for us. I don’t know about Ginn though, I have doubts that he will develop into a good receiver, but I think he can still be useful as a KR/PR.

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by Chupathingy on Nov 3, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

that a lot of people have been hating on Ginn, because they expected a lot from him this year, and he only seemed to have gotten worse. But he was barely a receiver at Ohio St. and left early. He basically spent his first year here learning how to run routes. Last year he started showing flashes of his potential, and this year he completely lost his confidence after dropping a game winning TD against IND.

I still think he has the potential to be a better Steve Smith (from CAR), especially after he conquered his demons last sunday, he just needs time to develop (just like Smith did).

by BayAreafinfan on Nov 3, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The difference with those guys is that

they consitently produce on the field. Chambers didn’t even when he played with us. Sure he made some great catches, but he dropped just as many as he caught, which was why we traded him in the first place.

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by Chupathingy on Nov 3, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

He was never a #1 WR – his pro bowl year was a fluke above anything else.

by BayAreafinfan on Nov 3, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"produce"

Ok… Which one?

BTW… I’m not saying chambers is any better but he is one of those rocks you turn over.

by sdelinois on Nov 3, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yes

I dont know if anyone has talked about this yet but I’m going to explain why he would be a huge upgrade to this team.

Chris Chambers is able to get seperation… He is to fast to be covered by a lb and is to powerful for a single cb, meaning safety help would be needed…. How do most teams handle our offense? By loading the field with lb’s or bringing safeties up… both of those calls would be huge risks with a player like chambers, even if he does drop alot of passes… Now insert Ginn, who is to fast for most cb’s to handle without top cover from a safety (by the way Ginn actually has above average hands, its due to his in ability to create seperation that create most of his drops)…. So now insert R&R…… teams now have to risk possible td’s through the air everytime they bring safeties up for the first time in 10 years…….

by Bostonboy on Nov 3, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

JOEY GALLOWAY

by SLYT on Nov 3, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So, when does Chamber clear waivers or whatnot?

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by Farorefox on Nov 3, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Crap

What the Heck was the tuna thinking

by Acemmett on Nov 3, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This post is now officially void.

That means, “Stop posting”.

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by Farorefox on Nov 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

DONT NEED CHRIS

JOEY GALLOWAY OUT THERE RIGHT….

by SLYT on Nov 3, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Screw Galloway. He's terrible

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by Farorefox on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JOEY GALLOWAY

by SLYT on Nov 3, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did you watch any Patriot games? Are you drunk, dumb, mentally handicapped?

Please make some attempt at thinking before you post.

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by Farorefox on Nov 3, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

why do you keep coming back to this post after you posted

“this post is officially void, that means stop posting”?
Wait, I’ll just look at your answer above

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 3, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I Feel Bad

I feel bad for Chambers, Everyone already thinks he is bad as it is, now he plays for the chiefs, poor guy. The Chiefs are just as bad as the raiders. The chiefs destroy all thier talent, look at LJ and Bowe no one does good in kc anymore.

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by HawkFire89 on Nov 3, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

dont see

 why they dont start patrick turner. see what he has. we have nothing to loss. i know he isnt exactly the fastest guy but he did run a 4.66 on the 40 which was .03 seconds slower the marques colston and im pretty sure everyone agrees he is a beast. we need something new to light a spark in this offense. who knows it might be him?

by donaldhall19 on Nov 3, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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