How Should White Be Used?
We have a tough road ahead to win the AFC East and get into the playoffs.
The way to go may be to stick with a conventional, low-risk, no-trickeration offense and just pound the rock with Ricky and trusting Henne and the receivers (catch the ball!) to keep the defense from crowding the line of scrimmage. I would definitely try this route first, but what if our pass-blocking-challenged line is overwhelmed by 9 in the box and our average receiving corps is jammed at the line and locked down? Our defense is improving, but we are better off maintaining time-of-possession and limiting the exposure of our defense to big plays.
We spent a 2nd round pick on Pat White. Was it a mistake?
Could White be used differently? Should he be used differently?
With Tyler Thigpen being a decent backup with experience, there is no longer a tragedy if Pat White were to get injured (no snaps in the Carolina game). I would not advocate having him substitute for Chad Henne due to rhythm and continuity issues. So how could he be used together with Henne to add an important misdirection/run-pass option to our base offense?
My whole philosophy here is to use Pat White as a distraction to the defense so that there would be running room for Ricky from the Tailback position. Basically, he would be used like the Patriots use Julian Edelman, who I believe is an inferior athlete to Pat White. Throw short passes to him near the line of scrimmage and let him use his legs to make plays.
Imagine Pat White as a halfback in the following Modified Pistol formation:
WR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _LT LG C RG RT _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _WR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _FB
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ QB
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ HB
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ TB
Note that Ricky plays TB and is relieved by Lex Hilliard. Pat White is relieved by Kory Sheets (can he throw the ball?).
Kory Sperry or Joey Haynos relieves Polite as the FB in the formation, motioning to the hole or into the slot.
Pat White as HB gets the ball on pitches or shovel passes backwards before or after the play action handoffs to the Tailback (Ricky) in order to maintain pass-run option.
As the play develops, Pat White could still get the ball as a normal flair pass in the flat or by running a shallow crossing route over the middle on a dump off. Easy throws, easy catches, and if White can make a man miss, being a surprisingly tough runner for 6-0 190, he could convert some third downs.
It would take a change in offensive philosophy to begin treating Pat White like the rookie QB that he is.
First put the gloves back on because he is going to be catching he ball as well as throwing it (and the weather is getting colder).
Second, at the beginning of the game, give Pat White a few high percentage easy roll-out throws off of pitches or reverses to get hm his first completion and establish him as a legitimate passing threat.
Lastly, use him as a decoy on reverses and fake pitches to open up running room for Pounding the Rock with Ricky. On the occasional reverse or misdirection pitch to the backside, he would be a threat for chunk yardage running or throwing.
My hope is that his presence in the backfield would slow down the pass rush and spread out the defense to the edges to open up running room for Ricky inside even if White doesn't actually touch the ball. Since it is unreasonable to expect him to be in on every play, I would relieve him with Kory Sheets who I think would add some speed and shiftiness on misdirection pitches outside to open up the inside running game with Williams/HIlliard.
Anyway, what's your opinion of White?
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I still think the spread offense is his best option.
4 and 5 WR sets using overloads and deep routes. Let the defense pick their poison. Leave someone up to contain White from running, you take the chance of leaving someone getting open one-on-one and getting beat. Play deep and prevent the pass, White takes off and runs for 10-20+ yards. But the key is he has to stay in the pocket longer than 2 seconds. You have to make the defense think you might actually pass the ball.
If Pat was able to put his gloves on again he might be able to throw acurrately.
He had those gloves during his whole college career and was one of the most accurate passers in college.
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If he can only throw accurately with gloves on.....
We never would have drafted him.
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Who said bust because can’t call him a bust in till we see him at least in another year or two. But i will say he can’t throw the damn ball imo but what do i know :-D.
by inyourface6336 on Nov 27, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions
I say use him as trade fodder.
Package him up with Teddy Ginn and ship him somewhere out of our division. Don’t know what we would fetch for him, but I think that is his strongest position right now. Oh..and add Gibril and Fasano.
I think Fasano is a free agent at the end of the year.
we take a serious cap hit for getting rid of Gibril.
Who would want Pat White? Redskins (nearby)? Cleveland Browns?
Trade Ginn and White for Joshua Cribbs? Even Mangini if he is still there is not that stupid.
Ginn to Cincinnati? Palmer could use an additional deep threat to stretch the field.
Ginn to Baltimore for Jalen Parmele?
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by DolphDallas on Nov 27, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
White should be used as a back up QB
learning the system, playing in garbage time, and warming the bench just like any rookie QB drafted.
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If Pat White were a big armed immobile QB (like Chad Henne), I would agree...
and I believe very strongly that the Trifecta handled Henne correctly (case in point: look at Mark Sanchez and Matt Stafford).
But Pat White may never make it in the NFL as a traditional drop back QB (height issues, Drew Brees notwithstanding). He will always however use his plus mobility and intangibles to make it in the NFL as a QB or otherwise. So why waste a year developing him for a role he may never have (or fit) and waste opportunities to use him now in a role he may thrive in for his entire NFL career (how ever long or short that might be?).
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by DolphDallas on Nov 28, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Here's an idea: Can he catch or run routes?
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I'll settle for "catch" atm
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Agree
and that lil fucker could run too
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