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Dolphins waive Matt Roth, sign Alama-Francis

In a very surprising move, the Dolphins have waived former second round pick Matt Roth. Filling his roster spot is former Lions DE Ikaika Alama-Francis.

Roth was a starter at strong side outside linebacker all of last year but had a "mysterious groin injury" that held him out of all of training camp this year and much of the season this year. But even still, this move comes as a big surprise as it seemed like Roth was possibly on his way towards becoming a solid run-stopping OLB in Miami's 3-4 defense.

It's hard to figure out why the Dolphins decided to cut Roth at this point in time. But the Miami Herald reports that this move "was strictly a football decision" - according to a team source - and didn't have anything to do with any outside factors, like Roth's groin injury from earlier this season. Sources also told the Herald that this was just a situation where people in the personnel department and on the coaching staff thought that Roth wasn't the same player he was last season. Asked if the groin injury could be part of the reason, a source said, "That's as good a guess as any."

But still - the timing of the move was curious, to say the least.

Meanwhile, the Dolphins added defensive end Ikaika Alama-Francis, a 2007 second round pick of the Detroit Lions. He spent two seasons in Detroit before being cut back in September. Alama-Francis is a 6'5, 290 pound prototypical 3-4 defense end who could very well see playing time sooner rather than later with Tony McDaniel and Randy Starks expected to get some snaps at nose tackle following the loss of Jason Ferguson.

Alama-Francis has played in 19 career games with the Lions, starting two. Before attending Hawaii, he was a three sport star in high school, playing baseball, basketball, and volleyball. So he's an athlete for sure. He actually was a walk-on to Hawaii's basketball team before decided to play football.

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WTF!!!

Its weird – I thought about Roth just now on the drive home but I wasn’t expecting this. I’m not too happy with this move.

"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."

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by AussieKen on Nov 24, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's cause you drive on the wrong side of the road

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And you bat from the wrong side of the plate.

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by AussieKen on Nov 24, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

... your bats look like paddles..?

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by Alpha6 on Nov 25, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they can not decide if they are going to play ball or go canoeing

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 25, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

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by Patssuck456 on Nov 24, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

now :\

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by joel311 on Nov 24, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

would you say that to him in a bar?

you know maybe right before the ensuing fight? :)

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Nov 24, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why do that?

Why would you tell someone they suck in a bar? Even if it is true, that would make them feel bad and probably start a fight.

That is why you say those things on places like this.

by guava_wrench on Nov 28, 2009 3:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

id like to hear more cuz i just dont get it

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by ronnie brown for president on Nov 24, 2009 6:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How good is this DE?

Omg…get him a nickname because I’m sure as hell, not typing his name everytime

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by Kdog92 on Nov 24, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Alama-Francis

i have read he is a bit of a project do we have space for more projects you usualy only take on a project when you are looking to next season, The Dolphins also picked up defensive back Evan Oglesby.

by 604finsfan on Nov 24, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad we got another corner...atleast we won't have to see Jason Allen in coverage

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by Kdog92 on Nov 24, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Roth was a project,

so I imagine we are replacing a project with a project.

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by joel311 on Nov 24, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cameron Wake

and Charlie Anderson. Need I say more?

Yes I should because Roth was outstanding last season. Porter is not getting any younger and I doubt that he would be starting caliber next season, but then again Roth may be too big a liability with a persistent groin injury. I’ve just decided I’m ok with this move.

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by joel311 on Nov 24, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

But another defensive end?

He must be another project OLB.

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by joel311 on Nov 24, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

although early...my outlook of the draft has changed right now.

For some reason I see us taking a LB in the 1st round….or a DL.

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by Kdog92 on Nov 24, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We still have one more roster spot open....hmmmmm?

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by Kdog92 on Nov 24, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jaguars shall take him

It is destiny.

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by TheTealDeal on Nov 24, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well he has to make it through waivers....and he probably won't...i wouldn't be surprised if the Jags get him

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by Kdog92 on Nov 24, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

If he heals up nicely, he will be a beast for y’all ;)

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by joel311 on Nov 24, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

better than Snachez for the Jest!

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OMG = IAF played college ball with Bess!

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wil,.............TRUST THE TRIFECTA

Sugar cone with Chocolate ice cream on the bottom & Orange sherbet on the top !!!!!!! NOW !!!!!!!!!!!

by Ohiofinfan4life on Nov 24, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

me too

"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle

Sparano yelled to the next receiver, imploring him to, "go get the (expletive) football."

by Neo on Nov 24, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i trust them....but it seems like a dumb move

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by Kdog92 on Nov 24, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what.....random....so random.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 24, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Roth lie to the FO

Im sure they didnt like that at all. Now is Jugdmenday, i guest.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 24, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

???

Did Sparano look like a fool went the press told him about the groing, something he didnt knew? BTW he did talk to Roth the night be4 twice. Roth lie on Sparano’s face. Thats common knowledge.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 24, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

please provide me with links Aleta

because i never knew Roth lied to sparano or sparano said that Roth lied to him.

by Ex Sniper on Nov 25, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any chance I get an assist on this one?

Seeing that I commented on it on the last Matty post before anyone else.

by qbinfin on Nov 24, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did not see that coming.

I feel blindsided. Anyone want a Matt Roth jersey?

There is nothing so bitter that a patient mind cannot find some solace for it

by Nayru'sSolace on Nov 24, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 24, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch!

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 24, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

And jason ferguson is out for the year

4-5
Eh not so bad.

by dave4fifo on Nov 24, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

you need to change your sig - now 5-5

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ur good at details O'O

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by Aleta on Nov 24, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree with Aleta

Roth was IMO our best olb and was still mdeveloping there and had concerns with him resigning BUT took solice in the fact we would get atleast 3rd round comp pick if lost. With this groin thing we lose draft comp pick(or him as our starting olb) and he loses millions in future pay, shitty all the way around

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by Blaze453 on Nov 24, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

you dont

get a 3rd round comp for losing a back-up LB in free-agency.

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!!!!!!!

I’m really surprised by this….

I know Cam Wake is looking like a beast and Charlie Anderson is coming around, but i can’t believe the Trifecta just released him without getting something in return…

They could have traded him, all they had to do was find someone who wanted to pick him up and move him to the active roster…

He would have been good for a 5th round draft pick at the least…

Anyways, i think this says alot for Wake and Anderson and how the Trifecta doesn’t want to limit there reps for someone with not as much of an upside

by scbrandon on Nov 24, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

I just hope this doesnt come back to haunt us (ex. Wes Welker)

Back at .500

by dave4fifo on Nov 24, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that's what i was thinking...

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by Kdog92 on Nov 24, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly what I was worried about.

Roth in a Patriots uniform crashing through the strong side of our offense.

by phillyfinfan on Nov 24, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and immediately falling down, writhing in pain holding his groin

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by DolphDallas on Nov 24, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can see Roth against Jake Long. Jake wins EVERY time!

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wes was traded with a 2rd pick.

That was NOT made by the Trifecta.
This is a msg to every player on the team.
U better dont eff with the FO and ur team.

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by Aleta on Nov 24, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True

Back at .500

by dave4fifo on Nov 24, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bro!

 became a Dolphin fan yesterday?

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 24, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!!!!!

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by Alpha6 on Nov 25, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and agian

you still didnt say anything substantial or provide any information. Last i heard were still a blog upheld by facts not hearsay.

by Ex Sniper on Nov 25, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nicky for providing something substantial to the table

So that is why the bet writers where trying to fish for something.

So as far as we know this is still just speculation and hearsay?

by Ex Sniper on Nov 25, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agree -- a control or 'message' move....

there was too much mystery here, none of its come out, so it would seem that roth wasn’t being up front with them either — or we would have some story by now. if he doesn’t perform, he doesn’t stay…
i’m sad. when matt was on, he was on. nice to have seen him through a few more games. maybe the practices were bad.
its starting to look like a more complicated ’draft, with more needs. but maybe the ’fecta is spinning new threads.

by a1a on Nov 25, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

couldnt trade him

trade deadline came and went. He was to be a UFA at the end of the season. If you know that you dont want to resign him, then why not part ways with him now? Guy wasnt doing anything for the team since he came back, and he obviously wasnt recovered from the mystery injury yet either.

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't figure this out

somebody would have given us something for him—right?

of course, now that he’s not a Dolphin, maybe he shed some light on all this mysteriousness.

by phillyfinfan on Nov 24, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the Trifecta was doing that during the entire season..

and no1 wnated to gave anything for him and his groin.

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by Aleta on Nov 24, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TruDat...

I still find it hard to believe that no one would give up anything for him though…

It wasn’t like everyone knew that he was gonna be released

I really think that the other OLB’s will realize that now is there time to step up and hopefully they will kick down the door now that they got there foot in there

by scbrandon on Nov 24, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"It wasn't like everyone knew that he was gonna be released"

Sure they did.

I’d have to assume that if Miami attempts to shop him to any of the GMs in the league, those GMs would turn around and assume that they’re doing so because they intend for him not to be in Miami next season, and want some sort of compensation while they can get it.

Then again, perhaps Miami never tried to shop him and just got fed up. The “football decision” may just have been that they didn’t think he was worth the money he would demand next season with the number of projects/potentially better linebackers already on the roster.

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by Dave.Phuller on Nov 28, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nope

trade deadline was over weeks ago. I doubt you will hear anything about mystery from this FO either. They dont air out their dirty laundry, they simply get rid of it.

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

here's my take on what happened

Matt Roth: You wanted to see me coach?
Tony Sparano: Hey listen Matt, I wanted to let you know that we’re gonna need you to step it capeesh or there will be dire consequences.
Bill Parcells enters: Thats right Matt, I didn’t draft you, so you’re gonna have to stop making up penis injuries and make some damn sacks.
MR: This is BS I don’t have to listen to you guys.
TS: Whaddaya talking about??? I’ll bust your head like a grape if you raise your voice again!
MR: You know what… I quit.
TS: You can’t quit, YOU ARE OUT OF HERE!
Donald Trump enters: you heard the man, YOU’RE FIRED!
BP: Not only are you gone but we’re gonna replace you with a guy with 3 names! He’ll be the next Mike Sims-Walker!!!
MR: Whatever I’m going to the Chiefs!
BP: Nope, I’m calling Pioli and telling him you have swine flu and are highly contagious.
TS: That’s right bitch, you’ll end up in New York handfeeding doughnuts to the hippo head coach.
MR: Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Honestly I can’t understand this move, so I closed my eyes and this is what I came up with…

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Worked for Maurice Jones-Drew

Mike Sims-Walker
and now… some name that I won’t bother attempting to spell…

There is nothing so bitter that a patient mind cannot find some solace for it

by Nayru'sSolace on Nov 24, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

3 names = 3 times the ballerness

Mike Walker was injured and spent the first 2 years under the radar.

Guy adds a name and blam, now a top 10 fantasy receiver.

Laces out!

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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.

Sean Smith/Vontae Davis= Pat Surtain/Sam Madison

by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought 3 names = serial killer or just plain murderer...

think about it

John Wayne Gacy
John Wilkes Booth
Lee Harvey Oswald

and a s#@t ton of other weirdos

by scbrandon on Nov 24, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as long as he murders jets or patriots hes ok in my book

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

whos that?

lets me guess… dime piece bombshell?

Laces out!

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Sean Smith/Vontae Davis= Pat Surtain/Sam Madison

by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

chick from Saved by the Bell

and other shit..

waiting for Mosul to come around and start throwing 3 namers around with me lol

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 24, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Little Nicky 21

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sarah Michelle Gellar`

blam! I came to the table!

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

way to bring it lol

Jennifer Love Hewitt

BAM! Go hard or go home lol

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 25, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jenna Bush Hager

WHAM! Back at ya!! LOL

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Walker Texas Ranger

tell me he isnt a badass!?

Laces out!

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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.

Sean Smith/Vontae Davis= Pat Surtain/Sam Madison

by BSerious72 on Nov 25, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

... you brought a dude to the game..?

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by Alpha6 on Nov 25, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lulz

Got a laugh out of me. But, the kid seems like a good athlete. I probably pay less attention to the Lions than any other team in the NFL, but don’t they run a 4-3? Could be a case of a bad fit.

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by sister_ray on Nov 24, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 24, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

surprised

definitely surprised by that move. I guess they felt that JT, Porter, Wake, and Anderson was a good enough rotation for the OLB spots and decided to make Roth the example of “don’t sit with BS injuries.” That’s my best guess. Also signals to me that we’re probably re-signing JT for another year, or drafting an OLB high in the draft.. Seems to add another need instead of filling needs, but I’m not gonna kill the move until I know the reason.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 24, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

have to agree

greatly surprised by this too…. not the first OLB on the team that i would have expected to be cut, but then again his play this year didn’t compare to last years…

that said – wouldn’t you rather work out a contract with a guy who was your best LB last year then bring in someone who was cut from the worst team in the history of football?

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Nov 24, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Might this mean its QUENTIN MOSES TIME

perhaps the Trifecta is contemplating moving to a 4-man D-Line rotation?
Roth is recovering too slowly and they want to see what they have in Moses?

Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and Chris Clemons. Trio > me.

by DolphDallas on Nov 24, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

boo i like Moses

he’ll the part the red sea, you’ll see

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that'd be great

when we play a game in Saudi Arabia… lol

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 24, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude.... not even close...

Geography a strong suite..?

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah everyone knows that happened in Milwaukee

idiot.

Laces out!

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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.

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by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!! thought the Dead Sea....

Apologies…

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol was about to say

I definitely googled it cuz i’m not that smart.. was about to say Israel, then thought I better check lol

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 24, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee huh

anybody ever seen Milwaukee? anyone? I think Milwaukee is a myth. ever met someone from Milwaukee?

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 24, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Except for Harley-Davidson, I wouldn't believe it exists either!

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think of beer...

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

27+ year recovering alky here, so, no, I don't think about beer!

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 25, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Man!

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by Alpha6 on Nov 25, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard they

brew that atrosity of a beer there…Milwaukee’s Best. Really, is that the BEST you have to offer? I am writing a letter to congress now to ask that we remove them as an official state and let the American Samoa take their place. Anyone with me??

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Try Egypt

There is nothing so bitter that a patient mind cannot find some solace for it

by Nayru'sSolace on Nov 24, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so is that a suburb in Milwaukee?

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Idiot here...

… Saudi is on other side…

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's between Egypt and Saudi

also touches Yemen, Sudan, Eritrea, and Djibouti (capital city, Djibouti) lol

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 24, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Do your booty...

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know... LOL!!! mine too...

great thread…

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean I like Moses

but I need to know some reason why we just dropped Roth?

Was he a Cancer? Was he expensive?

I’m not getting this one as you can see by my attempt at an explanation above

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps his mysterious groin disease started spreading...

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by Nayru'sSolace on Nov 24, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah im not doctor

but that might be called herpes

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Crotch rot

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

isnt his agent

the dreaded Rosenhaus? If that is the case, I wouldnt want to deal with him either. BUT, i did love ol’ Drew’s ESPN commercial where he negotiated lunch for all the ESPN guys in the cafe’. Classic!

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

that was a brilliant commercial lol

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 25, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn!!! Alama should just be called Alabama! Big Dude!

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah but the guy was released from the Lions?

not a good start lol.

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by BSerious72 on Nov 24, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the same lions

that released Leigh Bodden…..did you see what that guy did last week for the Patsies? How much is the FO regretting not signing him over Eric “Chump-ass” Green?

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WTF???

Not much else to add – I’m as stunned as everyone else. How could we not at least get something…..ANYHTING for him?

I can’t see Roth being unemployed very long. There are lots of teams that now play the 3-4. Maybe to Green Bay to replace Aaron Kampman? Who am I kidding…..he’s going to New England.

I always liked Roth and but I lkike Cam Wake even more. As long as he gets the reps and NOT anderson, then I’ll get over this move soon enough.

by crossborderFISHingtrip on Nov 24, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the trade deadline has passed, thats why

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by Patssuck456 on Nov 24, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to trade someone

when the deadline has passed. Was going to be a UFA at the end of the season.

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Roth goes to Oakland!

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

.... where he can spread that monkey itch around...

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He's not 4.2-40-enough for Oakland.

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by Dave.Phuller on Nov 28, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oglesby....CB we picked up

was in Dallas….and they gave him a new contract while there…so he musta impressed at some point,

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by Rzayo24 on Nov 24, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wake Up Call

Aside from the early season groin injury thing, this is probably more of a wake up call to the team and making sure everyone is on their toes during the last games of the season.

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by dafinsfan on Nov 24, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The trade deadline has already passed...

In order to get something for him we would have to have room on our roster to let him sit for the rest of the year. They obviously determined he was not worth the trouble anymore… They have the doctors reports. They obviously scouted this DE when he came out and they had the DB when they were in Dallas. This reminds me a lot of a certain 4th round pick we traded for Anthony Fasano and Akin Ayodele last year before the draft. We all liked Matt Roth, but honestly do we have a reason to question the decision making on this team right now with bringing the right 53? Jake Long, Philip Merling, Chad Henne(a draft pick we had gotten for Chris Chambers no less) Kendall Langford, Donald Thomas, Davone Bess, Dan Carpenter(aka DC$), then Vontae Davis, Pat White, Sean Smith, Brian Hartline, Chris Clemens, and I am still anxious to see what Patrick Turner can do…..

by Jason Scott_90 on Nov 24, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I use to like Roth

Until he lie on Sparano’s face twice.
Thats went i started not counting on him.

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by Aleta on Nov 24, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And true be told

Roth didnt even show up on shape 4 training camp guys.
It all looks like he was a bad apple.
This regimen means bussiness, no playing around. I think is good for EVERYONE in the Dolphins org. We have made the 5-5 without him. I dont c the greatness on Roth THIS year. I just saw a overweight lier.

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by Aleta on Nov 25, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry Aleta but i have a real problem with you calling some one a liar with out providing real proof

flame me if you want but until you give me something where a beat writer even SPECULATES that there is some foul play being had then Don’t call some one a Liar sir.

by Ex Sniper on Nov 25, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There was reference once that it started as a saidgroin pull or something by Roth...

… and then Sparano said he was told it was a groin injury, but that now it was not an injury. And he was pissed! Supposed conversation between them…

I read it here at Phinsider by the way…

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by Alpha6 on Nov 25, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thet was way back at the beginning of training camp

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 25, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that, and aleta is right. Sparano did not come right out and say Roth lied, but it was very very strongly implied at the time

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 25, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for getting what i was trying to say!

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by Aleta on Nov 29, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry 4 been so late in the reply.

Ex, i was not trying to bash or flame anyone. I always tho that what happen be4 preseason, went Roth, 1st came out of shape, for training camp, he said he was ill. Sparano send him to do some test and all those test came negative. Sparano told the media that he was ill and that they where checkingf thing. That night, Roth’s agent told the media that Roth did have a groing injury. Went ask about it(to Sparano), Sparano didnt knew what the media was talking about. I remember that pretty well. Is thats not lying to ur coach, them i dont know what is. Sorry if i hurt anyones feeling for asuming.

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by Aleta on Nov 29, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW Ex, this is a link that u were asking for

I really try to look for a better one, but this one will do more than enlight u

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2009/10/welcome-to-the-2009-season-matt-roth.html

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by Aleta on Nov 29, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Somethings not right

there’s something going on that we are not aware of , first he can’t play for some mysterious reason and now he’s waived from out of the blue…there has to be a good reason for this.

by Phincent on Nov 25, 2009 2:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Worried

and not liking this move. Taylor and Porter are not staying long, Roth proved he could be an effective player especially on running downs.

I am worried about our player moves. 2 of last years picks were busts (Murphy and the other RB, Parmalee i think). Turner hasn’t played a single down as WR. We already know that Cam’s draft has been a nightmare, and now we are cutting our 2005 2nd rounder???

Don’t like this

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by MoLimits on Nov 25, 2009 5:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would be interested to see....

How many teams in the league would love to say they only busted on a few late round picks in the past 2 years?? Seriously look at the talent we have brought in. While I think we are a little bit over .500 with the free agent market on role-player vs. bust, we seem to be doing much better with draft picks.

by Jason Scott_90 on Nov 25, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Parmalee

was a 5th round pick….baltimore plucked him off of our practice squad. Cant say that he was a bust.

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

really

you’re worried that 3 of the draft picks in the last 2 years were busts? When more than half of the guys picked every year turn out to be busts? And we’ve had more successful UDFA’s than we’ve had busts? And Murphy was a project, tough to call a 4th rounder a bust (same goes with Turner, who wasn’t really expected to contribute right away). Parmale was picked off the PS because we were deep at RB with Brown and Williams both being healthy. Everybody else we’ve drafted has worked out. In the last 2 years, rounds 1 and 2 have yielded a Pro Bowl LT, a Franchise QB, a starting DE, 2 starting CB’s, and a QB/Wildcat weapon. You can’t be seriously questioning player moves right now. FA signings, ok, but other than a few big name guys that haven’t worked out (Wilford and Wilson, at least so far), they’ve been pretty solid there as well (Smiley, Grove, keeping Carey, Bell, and Crowder, JT, Starks…) and we’ve done pretty well with trades as well (Ferguson, Ayodele/Fasano, McDaniel)

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 25, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True Story

The slate has been wiped clean the moment the trifecta took over, if it wasn’t a pick, move, or signing done by the trifecta then don’t flame it. These guys so far have done a pretty good job, and im not gonna get worried by a move like this.

by Ex Sniper on Nov 25, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WTF

sometimes you just gotta say " WHAT THA PHUCK"

TOM CRUISE IN RISKY BUISINESS

by THE SHIZ on Nov 25, 2009 6:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I traded Matt Roth a long time ago on Madden. He wasn’t that good.

Pardon me, he’s not that good. I don’t see this move working against us. (fingers crossed)

by la Roc on Nov 25, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

The trades that I manage to pull off in Madden! I have built the phinz into a juggernaut!! The key in Madden is to trade all of your high draft picks and players on the last year of their contract for strictly 3rd round picks. Why is that? Because you find just as much talent in the 3rd round as in the first and they cost you 1/10 of the money. It is a beautiful thing really. LOL. Surprised EA Sports hasnt figure this out yet!

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by Dragon27az on Nov 25, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very Strange

I knew there was some controversy regarding the “mysterious” groin injury, but I thought Roth was playing well enough to keep his job. This is a very strange decision on the part of the Dolphin’s management. Hopefully, they know what they are doing and won’t come to regret this decision.

by DarthVader on Nov 25, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ikaika Alama-Francis??? Hmmm...

Hey guys (n’ gals) I’m a Hawaii resident and follow all U of hawaii players and besides being on Cloud 9 when we had Mauia (FB) and Satele © and Bess (WR) that one painful year with Camron, i also know a lil’ about the other HI players in the NFL,,,case in point Ikaika Alama-Francis (“Ika”)…dude can straight ball! he has a motor, no doubt, but there’s concerns with his transition to the Pro’s but that is due mostly to his limited Football experience…google his name, u’ll know what i mean, but from watching him play them games a few years ago, it was unanimous on the islands that he was our best Defensive specimen EVER!!…we just gotta “develop” him…oh, but the real downer on him tho?? INJURY PRONE! (very similar to yeremiah bell…)

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by solefinatik on Nov 25, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Browns have taken Roth

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by TheTealDeal on Nov 25, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Alpha6 on Nov 25, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He's in the dog pound now

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by TheTealDeal on Nov 25, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

new guy played volleyball?

hmmm

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by phins23 on Nov 26, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Volleyball's spectacular

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by Farorefox on Nov 26, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one thinking that

we are moving back to running a 4-3 scheme most of the time for the next couple of games, we lost our main NT his back up is still 50-50 through injury and we have a couple of decent DT and a reasonable number of guys that can play DE.
Also this takes the pressure off the lack of MLB and means that we could see Porter, Taylor and Wake on the field at the same time all attacking the passer.
Therefore we need a good DE/DT and not a OLB/DE who is acting like a liability and as its a contract year if is head isn’t into playing good at all costs now, then he isn’t going to be doing well at all.

by DickDevil on Nov 26, 2009 5:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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