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Six questions to ponder with six games left

Don't look now, naysayers. After a rough 0-3 start, the Dolphins are not only back at .500 for the first time in 2009, but are also within just one game of the AFC wildcard leaders. Even better news for Dolphin fans? Miami still has to play three of the teams who are ahead of them in the wildcard race - as well as one remaining shot at the division leading Patriots.

It's still going to be a tough climb, however. There are some big challenges that lay ahead for these Dolphins. So to prepare for these six games, let's highlight six critical questions that the Dolphins face.

Can Ricky handle the increased workload over the next month and a half?
After the terrible news last week about Ronnie Brown's injury, many of us were wondering if Ricky Williams would be able to step into the lead role in Miami's backfield and be as effective as he's been the past two seasons as the number two guy. On Thursday, Ricky answered that question by showing proving that he's still as capable a starter as he's ever been, rushing for 119 yards and scoring three touchdowns. But can he sustain this kind of production?

Against the Panthers, Williams received 22 carries. And that came on the heels of a 20 carry performance just 4 days earlier against the Buccaneers. That is a lot of carries for a 32 year old back. No - he's not your typical 32 year old running back and doesn't have the mileage that most 32 year olds have on them. But keep in mind that Ricky's season high in carries last season was only 16 (back in week three against New England). And if you want to know when the last time Ricky had at least 20 carries prior to the game against Tampa Bay? You'd have to go all the way back to New Year's Day on 2006, when he closed out the '05 regular season with a 28 carry, 108 yard performance in New England.

It's a lot to ask Williams to carry the rock 20-25 times per game over these remaining six games. At the same time, the Dolphins don't really have much of a choice.

Star-divide

How much will the Dolphins miss Ferg?
While nothing has been confirmed, it's expected that nose tackle Jason Ferguson will miss the remainder of the season with an injured right knee he sustained against the Panthers last week. Needless to say, this is a huge loss (no pun intended). A 3-4 defense is only as good as it's nose tackle performs. And Ferguson leaves a large void for Miami to fill (again, no pun intended).

This season, Ferguson has only missed one game. That day in New England, the Patriots averaged 4.5 yards per carry on the ground against a defensive line anchored by Paul Soliai in the middle. Soliai, meanwhile, has missed the last two weeks with his own injury issues. Outside of those two, the Dolphins don't have a real nose tackle to step in. Tony Sparano said that he would expect to play Tony McDaniel (6'7, 305) and Randy Starks (6'3, 305) at the nose if needed. Last year against the Ravens in the regular season, Starks did have to man the nose tackle position once Ferguson left the game with an injury (Soliai was suspended by the team for the game). While he wasn't terrible, the Ravens did run for 139 yards.

It will be interesting to see how this coaching staff attempts to make up for the rumored loss of Ferguson as we head down the home stretch.

Can the Dolphins beat a team that's better than they are?
Don't get all angry with me here. But you might need to take off those aqua colored glasses for a moment here. The way I see the season playing out, it will take at least 10 wins in the AFC to make the playoffs. For the Dolphins to get to that mark, they'll obviously have to win five of their remaining six. That means beating either the Patriots or Steelers - two teams who are ("homer-ism" aside) better than the Dolphins are.

The good news here is that both of these games are at home in Miami. The Dolphins have also played the Patriots tough once already this year. But let's be real for a moment - the Dolphins have not beaten a single team in 2009 that is better than they are. They've come close - tough losses at home to both of the undefeated teams (Colts and Saints). But a loss is still a loss. You can even make the case that Miami didn't beat a more talented team in 2008, either, despite winning 11 games. After all, they lost to the Ravens twice and to the eventual NFC Champion Cardinals. They did split with the Patriots, though.

To make the playoffs, the Dolphins will have to not just play these more talented teams tough - they will have to win at least one of those games.

Will the rookie wall be a problem?
Some people think that the idea of the "rookie wall" is nothing more than a term created by the media. But if you NFL head coaches about it, I'd bet most would say that the wall is real - and it can be problematic.

The Dolphins rely on two rookies to start at cornerback - which is always risky. Making things worse is that the Dolphins face three of the top five passing offenses over their remaining five games. Yup - just in time for that "rookie wall" to rear its ugly head. In college, these kids will only play about 12 games in a season - maybe 13. And in the month of December, these kids will play - at most - two games. They'll have a lot of rest in between games in December, as well. In the NFL, there is no rest in December. That's the time to put up or shut up as teams make their playoff pushes.

For the Dolphins, Vontae Davis and Sean Smith cannot afford to go through any kind of rookie wall. Hopefully their offseason training has prepared them well to close out a season strong.

Can we see more Wake?
Ever since the John Beck debacle, I try my best not to "anoint" a player too early in their careers. But like Cameron Wake rushing off the edge, I'm coming around quickly. After picking up three more quarterback hurries on just 10 snaps against the Panthers, Wake leads the Dolphins in hurries with 15 - on just 100 total defensive snaps.

Now I know we can't just steal Joey Porter's reps after his outstanding game against Carolina last week. But maybe we should cut into Charlie Anderson's 20 to 25 snaps per game to give Wake some more opportunities. He always seems to be causing havoc on the field when he's out there. So why not unleash him a little bit more and see what happens?

Can Henne win a game on his own?
It's not secret that the Dolphins want to run the football. So teams will continue to stack the box against Miami's offense and force the young Chad Henne to beat them through the air with an average (at best) receiving group. That means there's likely going to come a point in time this season in which Henne will be asked to win the game himself through the air.

Some might argue that he did just that back in his second career start against the Jets. Sure, he was a critical part of that big Monday night win - throwing for 240 yards and two touchdowns. But let's not forget that Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams also combined for 142 yards on the ground, Ronnie threw for 21 more, and on that final game-winning drive, Henne only completed 3 passes (though two of those were on 3rd down).

Now I'm not saying Henne can't win a game on his own at this stage of his development. But he hasn't had to yet. It's likely, though, that some point during these final six games, he will indeed be asked to do so.

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we got this

but Ferguson going down is a huge hit

by Brian5517209 on Nov 23, 2009 12:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

does anyone know of any dts on fa or waiver wire even if they are old as hell

with ferg down, soliai injured a bit and only tony mcdaniel and starks (who we need at de) maybe well grab some old fat fart off his couch and back to the nfl. even if the guy can only play 10-15 downs a game

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by ronnie brown for president on Nov 23, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Put JT back at a defensive end, his old position,and replace him with Wake at the OLB position, and him and Roth can rotate, Roth is better on run downs anyway.

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by PhinsFan69 on Nov 23, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not sure bout wake at re, maybe roth

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by ronnie brown for president on Nov 23, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If Starks goes in the middle itll be Merling who takes over

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by Enhalen on Nov 23, 2009 4:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But imagine JT at his old position, and Wake Blitzing at the ROLB position, Porter on the LOLB

Porter / Taylor/ Starks or McDaniel / Langford or Merling and then Wake on the other OLB position

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by PhinsFan69 on Nov 23, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lex Hilliard is a big, tough dude.

We have to see what he can do. Hopefully he gets a bunch of carries and catches.

Also, I don’t like the idea of saying a certain team is better than the Dolphins. We know what we have; a young talented team that has been coached by a very good coaching staff. Certainly we can get a nice win against New England or Pittsburg, but the key is to not slip up in the other games. 10 wins is doable.

"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."

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by AussieKen on Nov 23, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

forget about just a slip up

jacksonville and Houston have solid teams with solid records, those wouldnt even be slip ups if we lost. we gotta play to our full potential every week. and we need henne to make some big plays. also hilliard and sheets will need to spell ricky as he is 32 regardless of how much time he took off

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VP of The why is ronnie not signed to a fifteen year deal Org
official hater of the previous fins and current college coaches wannstadt and saban

by ronnie brown for president on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just meant that if we lose to Buffalo or Tennessee, we’re done because we won’t sweep the other teams.

"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."

Coach Paul Bear Bryant

by AussieKen on Nov 23, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jax is hardly a "solid" team

And they showed it by almost losing to Buffalo

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by Enhalen on Nov 23, 2009 4:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I fully expect Lex Hilliard to take some of the load of of Ricky Williams.

I was suprised he didn’t get more carries in the game.

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by woomar on Nov 23, 2009 1:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

he will soon

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by ronnie brown for president on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Lex Hilliard passed the test to get more carries i expect him to get 10-15 carries against a derailing Buffalo team.

I also expect to see more pass plays and it would be nice to see Chad Henne win the game against Buffalo with a pair of touchdowns and passing for 200 yrds +

Bess and WR core did look decent against a carolina team ranked 5th in the pass so i expect them to build on this.

cuz lets face it every team that we are playing after Buffalo are teams that are in the same boat were in. Wild Card.

by soxoff on Nov 23, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love these upcoming tests!

I cant wait to see what we have in these players for the future. Yea its gonna be tough, and winning 10 games or 11 is going to be extremely hard! This team has showed me they will fight every game there is! I’m excited to see what Henne does these final games. He really has the makings of a solid qb in this league. I hope Henning opens the playbook for him. The loss of Ronnie will of course hurt. But Ricky will be Ricky, he’s nasty and frankly is just as good as ronnie. The X Factor is Lex Hilliard. If he can pitch in 8-10 carries of 40 yards. We will be in contention. On the defensive side. It’s anybody’s guess. I think we need to bring more blitz packages to offset our secondary. If we give a qb more than 4-5 seconds to look.. Were screwed! We need to be more aggresive on D.We have nothing to lose!

There’s alot of “If’s” in there. But if we can control the ball, not make dumb turnovers we can be very successful. While, I’m not overly excited about this bunch! I see extreme optimism in this team’s future! I expected the phins to be 8-8 or 9-7. But to have a chance to be 10-6 with our schedule?! I’m extremely happy! Go Phins..What do you think?

by Wallace758 on Nov 23, 2009 2:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought Henne won the game for us through the air versus Tampa Bay

that last second comeback doesnt happen if Henne doesnt throw

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Nov 23, 2009 3:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah he did Chad Henne could do anything that man did everything in college y not in the nfl?

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by DPL3 Rollin on Nov 23, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just a note to throw out there.

I know this won’t be the easiest thing to do. But if we win our last 6 games, we’re in the playoffs. Now I’m not saying we will win out, but I do think we have enough talent to beat any team.
Ferguson will be a huge loss, especially if Solai isn’t at 100%. We may have to go to a 4-3 line up more to compensate.
After Hilliard’s performance last week, I’m not as concerned about Ronnie’s injury as I was initially. I’m just confused why this guy wasn’t getting more reps earlier. This guy just does not go down on the first hit, and when he does go down it’s always forward for another extra yard or two. I wouldn’t be suprised to see him notch a 100 yard game before the season is over.

by luvs2drnk on Nov 23, 2009 3:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree
We may have to go to a 4-3 line up more to compensate.

Although I think it will be more of a modified 4-3, than a traditional 2 DT, 2DE front. I can see them lining up Langford, Starks, Merling, and then Roth or McDaniels at end. You can almost rotate any of these guys between DT and DE, and maybe even get Dotson in the mix. As it is now, we generally rush 4 anyway, but with Fergi in the middle, you have the luxury of using a lighter, quicker guy rushing off the edge from the LB spot.

If we can get consistent pressure on the pocket with four beefy guys up front, i think we will be fine. We can still bring Porter of JT on a blitz occasionally, and they will probably be very effective as the 5th rusher.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 23, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My 4-3 lineup....

LDE – Langford/Merling
LDT – McDaniel
RDT – Starks
RDE – Taylor/Wake

SLB – Roth (running downs)/Wake (passing downs)
MLB – Crowder
WLB – Porter/Taylor

Nickel package – Crowder and Ayodele as LBs

by luvs2drnk on Nov 24, 2009 3:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that would work

we have so much position flexibility among our front 7 it’s insane. I like McDaniel and Langford at ends because of their height. But I also I like McDaniel in the DT spot because of his bulk.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 24, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Porter's "outstanding game", huh???

yes – he had a good game but it was far from outstanding…

lets not forget on the big run Joey was 7 yards in the backfield and they ran right to the hole he created by getting so deep into the backfield.

and on the reverse field play – joey had backside contain and for some reason ran behind (williams?) 7-9 yards deep… had joey held his ground, instead of trying to “sneak” up behind the runner – the play would have been stuffed for a loss.

on top of that he seems to have a dissapperance issue in the 4th quarter… So give Cam some more PT … and let joey go all out on those passing downs…. but otherwise i’d rather see JT, Roth, Wake, & Anderson on the field….

BTW: nother nice game for that 5-2 Henne kid.

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Nov 23, 2009 4:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great Post Matty

It will be tough to make the playoffs, but you gotta love the spirit of this team. We need to start with a win in Buffalo before we look ahead as i feel this game will be closer then people think.

1) Lex has shown he can spell Ricky, we need to give him 10-15 carries a game if possible. It also helps to tell us if he is a keeper for the next few years or not

2) If i am not mistaken, Ferg had as much tackles by end of the Panthers game as all of last season (can someone confirm?). That is a big loss.

Don’t like Starks their since he has been playing excellent at DE. Would rather a rotation of McDaniel, Solai, and why not Merling? since he can’t much reps otherwise. We will need Crowder to step up big in stopping the run.

3) The way Brady/Moss/Welker are playing, i just can’t see it. I hope we win all rest and we can beat the Steelers. We will need big returns from Ginn (Steelers has given up tons of return TDs), and hope we get them in an off day. They are a very different team without their Superman , Troy P at SS (as observed from the Chiefs yesterday)

5) Wake needs to play on passing downs.

6) Interested to see that too, though happy to see Henne not lose games (like Sanchez for example). This is what the coaches are asking him to do. Though if we are out of contention, would like to see us air it out and see if he can win a game for us through the air. The guy has good potential and we need to build around him, starting with a true #1 WR

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by MoLimits on Nov 23, 2009 5:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great post Matty, as always.

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 23, 2009 9:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's tough road ahead

I would have loved to be playing the Texans, Titans and Jags earlier in the season when they were playing lousy football but that’s the beauty of the NFL. And that’s how the Jets got to 3-0…..

Overcoming the loss of Ferg is huge for us. We still play some good running teams. After that, I think the biggest question mark is the play of the LB’s. I’d like to see us phase out JT and JP over the final 6 games and increase the snaps of Roth and Wake. Instead of the rookie wall, I worry about the veteran wall with our 2 starting (old) OLB’s.

We are really going to find out a lot about our team both for this year and next year in the final 6 games.

by crossborderFISHingtrip on Nov 23, 2009 9:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree with W NY Fins Fan

W NY Fins Dan nails it: JoePo certainly had a more energetic game, but not all that much better than normal, because he abandoned his cutback responsibilities to get to the QB; in fact, in general he didn’t play the run well at all. Less spectacular players such as Charlie Anderson and Matt Roth are better than Porter in terms of total yardage given up.

There’s no shame in it; Time win every time, and JP and JT have both aged. The difference is that JT has been honest and gracious about it, while JP is the latest example of denial’s not just being a river in Egypt..

Everyone can see how much better the pass rush is when Wake’s in there. Whether he makes the play or not, the other team’s entire blocking scheme has to change to account for him.

by Joel West on Nov 23, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

we need to play the remainder of games like the Colts game..Time of Poss. and field position...

If we control the game,then our guys will be more comfortable..We cant afford to play"catch-up" ball cuz thats really not what we do…We have the man power to score points,but less power to stop the points. Work the clock,great field position, and scoring on most drives will keep this season alive…..Tough all around,the parity in the league is tightening..just ask Cincy and Pitt.

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by zero13 on Nov 23, 2009 10:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

ANSWERS

1)ricky can carry the load- he’s a franchise back
2)we will defintely miss fergie in the middle, he’s an anchor out there
3)QB play holds us back from beating the better teams in the league
4)hopefully the rookies will continue to improve not the other way around
5)wake should be given the green light, he’s a playmaker
6)henne is not quite ready for the primetime…yet

by panthro on Nov 23, 2009 10:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am extremely proud of this team and its coaching staff for what they have done with this team

I mean the depth on this team is incredible. How many teams lose their starting QB, RB, CB, with the hardest schedule in the league (based on last years win %) and past the half way point are in contention for a playoff spot. I am definitely cautiously optimistic when it comes to the remaining schedule, but what ever happens I am still proud of this team for not giving up when the chips were down. As for Ricky, I think they should definitely split the carries between him, Hilliard, and Polite (on short yardage) and he will be just fine. I LOVE THE DOLPHINS!!!

by Wade on Nov 23, 2009 10:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Dolphins will win out the season and go 11-5......

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by Alpha6 on Nov 23, 2009 11:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

you betcha

then onward to 14-5….

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by Phintastic on Nov 23, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and Ricky is the next guy to step on the moon....

and I marry Charlize Theron….

I mean if we are going to dream…..

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by Fr8Train on Nov 23, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least Phintastic and mine were realistic....

… “Ricky on the moon,” paleez….

LOL!!!!

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by Alpha6 on Nov 23, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Henne only completed 3 passes (though two of those were on 3rd down).

ya only 2 3rd down conversions on the final game winning drive. what a bum! he should be banished to the gutter cause he should have converted 30 3rd down conversions on that drive! alot of backhanded henne praise on this site. he also didnt save a baby from a burning building this week…

by CaliPhinsFan on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL.... agreed.

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by Alpha6 on Nov 23, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

im jus tryin to stir up the pot

by CaliPhinsFan on Nov 23, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

rofl

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by Dave.Phuller on Nov 23, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's start with #1...

Go TITANS! Houston is one of 3 teams ahead of us in the wildcard hunt so let’s hope they lose to Tennessee this evening.

That said, some other things:

Ricky is the primary back now, like it or not, but I would try to get Hilliard 5-12 carries/game

Fins have to beat teams w/better records to get in the playoffs & we have more chances: NE, Houston, Pittsburgh, Jax

Ferg’s absence will be noted, not against Buffalo/NE, but against Tenn., Jax it will be.

Wake needs to play more, period.

Rookie wall also applies to QB’s as they slow down too (see 08 Matt Ryan). I think Henne, Smith, Davis will be what they have been to this point, very solid & promising.

Heck of a job by Chad Henne so far. He’s been a consummate pro. He’ll get plenty of chances to win games, keep building his confidence, develop the receiving corps and it will happen.

by Natalya on Nov 23, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I think that's what they did for Peyton...

… and they call him great.

They did it for Brady… and they call him golden.

I wonder……………………….. what would those two be called if the had under developed receivers?

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by Alpha6 on Nov 23, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

An interesting note

For Tom Brady it’s a bit of no brainer, he has two great Receivers plus a few others.

But for Peyton Manning I believe the argument can be said (and i believe it has been said) that whether it is a result of Manning making his receivers look good or vice-versa.

Many will agree Welker and Moss are great at their positions and are pretty solid and lock regardless of QB (as they proved under Matt Cassel). So the question that lies here is, Does Henne have more of a Brady feel (where he is a product of his system) Or a Manning Feel (where he helps make his look better Receivers).

Me Personally I believe he has his ‘Henne feel’ He’s coming into his own and while he has some receivers like Bess, Cam, Hartline, and Ginn (not nearly the compliment compared to that they of the veteran established players in the Patsies) He still makes it work as best as he possibly can (more similar to that of the Colt’s and what Manning is doing).

Fact of the matter is Henne is still a rookie and as solid games as he has had, I see Where Matty is coming from. He has not had to shoulder a game like both for mentioned QB’s ( e.g. see Colts vs Patsies). He has though shown he can work with what he’s got and when both Receiving corp and QB settle down and tune in he can make it happen (take Carolina for example).

by Ex Sniper on Nov 23, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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by Alpha6 on Nov 23, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But wouldn't the argument then be

is that not the true mark of ANY Quarter Back in the NFL who wishes to succeed? I would like to then propose that you show give us examples of a QB in the NFL who we would call "Good’ but not “Bonafide Stars” or on their way to becoming said stars. Furthermore I also like to propose if these said “Good” QB’s are succeeding what makes them apart from the ‘Stardom’ of the NFL.

I agree I think Henne has done an exceptional job so far I do believe it was Henning who said that Henne was just as good as any of the rookie QB’s that where drafted with him. But the fact still remains he has not fully shouldered a game where it was Him who had to take the team down 80 yards in 50seconds repeatedly to win it for us. Does he have the tool’s? I think so. Has he shown some promise and ability to bounce back? Most Certainly. Has he had to do it yet? No, I don’t believe so. but he will get his chance.

by Ex Sniper on Nov 23, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Saying he's better than Russell or Sanchez really isn't saying much.

Only Derek Anderson has a worse QB rating than those two this year.
But in response to your original post, as I stated before, regardless of the Titans v Texans outcome (Titans won) if we win our last 6 games we are in the playoffs. It might be the 6th seed, depending on if Denver wins out, but all the other wildcard teams we’re competeing with we’ll hold tie breakers over (head-to-head and conf. record).

by luvs2drnk on Nov 24, 2009 3:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Natalya - Isn't Henne's QB rating higher than Snachez, Russell, Cutler & Stafford - COMBINED?

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Your Brady Argument doesn't work.....

Brady won 3 superbowls…. non of those came with Welker or Moss at WR.

He had Deon Branch, Troy Brown, Bethel Johnson, David Patten, David Givens.

You could easily argue that our current roster of Wide Receivers is akin to the Patriots superbowl rosters….

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by Fr8Train on Nov 23, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

The WRs you listed above had more talent and speed than our current crop. If we had that group we’d be sitting in a much better position right now.

by luvs2drnk on Nov 24, 2009 3:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was thinking...

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well said nat

and rec’d.

i think our rookies will be fine. IMO, rookie walls are two things: a plateau in the learning curve when you expect progress, or a physical wear down due to a longer, tougher schedule than college.

I don’t see any signs of smith and davis plateauing in terms of development. These kids are hungry. And i would be much less concerned about the physical side with a CB, than say a RB or lineman, whose body really takes a thrashing over the season.

I also think Hilliard is going to be able to take some of the load off Ricky’s shoulders.

Funny how everyone now says “Heckuva job”….. ;-)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 23, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it's a long d

"I guess you call that maybe a male menopause...." - Bill Parcells upon taking over the Dolphins in December of 2007

by bingram on Nov 23, 2009 12:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I know it's a long shot, but

The UFL ends this month and everyone from there is fair game. Maybe we can pick up a decent NT….

"I guess you call that maybe a male menopause...." - Bill Parcells upon taking over the Dolphins in December of 2007

by bingram on Nov 23, 2009 12:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

They all failed out of the NFL. Why would we let one back in?

Hell, I could probably;y make the UFL as a Saftey if I got back into shape.

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by Farorefox on Nov 23, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree but

I didn’t say we should look for the future, just a band-aid from a group of guys who will be available soon. Remember Wake came out of a “lesser” league…

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by bingram on Nov 23, 2009 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

In addition to Wake...

Kurt Warner (AFL grad), and a couple of notable CFL grads: Joe Horn, Jeff Garcia, Brendon Ayanbadejo, and even Doug Flutie.

It isn’t to say the chances are great that you’ll find a ‘gem’ or future start, but it has happened. Plus NT is one of those positions were some excellent players to play that spot have initially been relative unknowns or late rounders. So worth looking into because in the NFL you have to cover all your bases and Parcells as shown by the wake pick up, will do just that.

by Natalya on Nov 23, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot a couple...

Most notably Warren Moon. And how could you forget Oronde Gadsden?

by luvs2drnk on Nov 24, 2009 3:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone watch the UFL?

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by Patssuck456 on Nov 23, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't watch it per sei

but I do look at the records and stats every so often.

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by Farorefox on Nov 23, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't even realize the games were on.....

not a single bit of media coverage here in Ohio. None.

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by Fr8Train on Nov 23, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nor here in Atlanta.

I can’t even remember how I learned that there was a UFL. Wait a sec, I found it while searching to see if there were Women Football leagues.

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by Farorefox on Nov 23, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ricky is still hungry

to earn the respect he knows he would already have if he hadn’t shot himself in the foot so often. His retirement is looming just 14 months away, and he definitely feels like he’s got some unfinished business to take care of. I think we can safely assume Ricky has lit a fire under his own ass at this point. He is the last thing we need to worry about as long as he’s healthy.

Ferg is gonna be missed. Might translate to 50 – 75 yds a game of offence allowed, due to reduced rotation of the rest of the line and his solid year so far (already better than last year). Means our offence is gonna have to step up more and stay in the hunt and not get behind.

Can we beat a team better than us? Damn good question. We’ve been close,…but.

Cam Wake? How much does he have to do to get to the top of the pecking order? Let Joey rest, and spell Cam occasionally. Not visa versa.

Yeah, I think Henne is a winner right now. That game against Carolina was his most complete so far. He progressed a lot decision-wise not taking sacks, locating throws in traffic, read progressions. He put it all together. He’s not as good as he’s gonna be, but I’m not bettin any of my money against him, know what I mean?

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by snook36 on Nov 23, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Receivers much better against Carolina; better than Braylon Edwards

Only Haynos had drops, and they ran tighter patterns, which is where all those first downs came from. Teddy G, had a phenomenal first down catch on the knee. They seemed to have him running the patterns he is good at, i.e. not over the middle in traffic.

Also, I don’t know who watched the NYJ-NE game, but the Jet recievers were appalling. At least 2 of Sanchez’s ints were caused by their lassitude: One when Braylon Edwards jogged lethargically toward a ball that whistled passed him into the defender’s arms, though in fairness to Edwards, he forgot to turn his head to check if Sanchez might have gotten around to throwing it untl the ball was well on its way, so perhaps he thought it wasn’t worth the effort; and another when the ball just went over the TE’s head, because, even though he’d already made his cut, he wasn’t looking at Sanchez. He even appeared surprised—“Hey, that football almost hit me in the head! Who the—-Oh, right never mind.”

The Jets receivers made Ted Ginn look like John Mackey. Alright, our guys drop the ball, but at least they remember what they’re supposed to be doing out there.

by Joel West on Nov 23, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have to say I was suprisingly happy that I was wrong last week.

I thought for sure that we would see more Pat White against the Panthers but Miami’s dedication to the base offense was good to see. If this team is going to make the playoffs they are not going to do because of the wildcat or the spread offense, even with Ronnie Brown in the lineup. I love the wildcat and Brown and hope they both stay in Miami for years to come but it has to become a well executed wrinkle, not our bread and butter. I believe Hilliard’s limited play last week was simply due to the short week, and his carries should only increase.

Little side note… I was really hoping N.Y. Could have pulled off the upset over New England but I crack a little smile when I see them sitting at 4-6 and third in the division. FN beeaches.

by la Roc on Nov 23, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

get the most pass rush

with all our nose tackles out the dolphins should go back tom a 4-3 defense put jason taylor and cam wake on the ends and roth and porter as outside linebackers with crowder up the middle and starkes and mcdanial as defensive tackles this will not only put taylor wake and porter all on the field at the sam time butit will solidify us against the run as well lankford and merling can rotate in on rushing downs crowder and roth will be expected to cover tightends thats the only problem with this idea

       Also in my mind Ricky Williams can carry the load but lex hilliard should get 10 to 15 carries a game as long as he is productive

by therockeer39 on Nov 23, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Again I ask myself...

Matty why are you not working as the lead sports writer at the Herald or Sentinel for the Fins????

by usnavydolphan on Nov 23, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Becuase Matty hates money....

and he lives like in NY or somewhere ungodly :D

by Ex Sniper on Nov 23, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

... and he loves us more...

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by Alpha6 on Nov 23, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the compliment

but this is just a hobby. would i love to work for one of them? of course. but that’s not why I do this, ya know?

by Matty I on Nov 23, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but seriously bro!

The input here is better than I think even you realize. I am stationed in VB far away from home and being in the military you stumble across all sorts. Needless to say I have found some fellow dolfans in the Navy and this is our main source of info. I look forward to my daily craving on the Phinsider and when there isn’t a new post I am hugely disappointed and then I have to go cry myself to sleep. Keep the posts coming and GO FINS! Never lose hope and always trust the trifecta!!!!

by usnavydolphan on Nov 24, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I/we think of you and the others often...

… stay safe… always be cool… and THANK YOU!

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by Alpha6 on Nov 24, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, we love our swabbies just as much as our jarheads and GI's!

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Henne

Henne can not win the game on his own unless the receivers step up Ginn has got to make catches being our only true deep threat unless he steps up his game we will see nothing but 9 in the box and press coverage and our receivers just aren’t fast enough and don’t get enough separation most of the passes we complete are comeback routes and curls these types of routes don’t allow for R.A.C. yards the receivers are basicly standing still or moving back to the QB and the defense then just smothers them Henning needs to call more slants and post routes and the shovel pass out of the shotgun can catch a team by surprise and make some big yards Henne has the skills but not the tools to get the job done

by therockeer39 on Nov 23, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A LOT has to be praised to cp10

for training ch7 and giving him the knowledge of the game, i think the comebacks against ny jets(mnf) and tampa don’t happen without cp10 mentoring chad henne, even though henne has a calmness about him i think cp10 taught him how to maintain his poise through the ups and downs of a game.

I want what's coming to me, the world and everything in it. - Tony Montana, Scarface

by miafins23 on Nov 23, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Matty? It hurts me to find this
Voted for 9-7 miss playoffs on The Phinsider – 11/23/09 1:09 PM EST

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 23, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why are you diggin up stuff..?

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by Alpha6 on Nov 23, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

finsx told me

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 23, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!

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by Alpha6 on Nov 23, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And that's why I enjoy reading your posts.

Although the man-crush on Ronnie Brown is a bit disturbing.

by luvs2drnk on Nov 24, 2009 3:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You get used to it around here

Except for Nicky….you never get used to him….

by Ex Sniper on Nov 24, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nicky=she/he/it (say it fast!)

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 24, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still in it

This is a big loss, loseing ferguson, but even after all these injurys were still in it

by mikexmen84 on Nov 23, 2009 6:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Two Counter Thoughts

Haven’s been posting in a while. So here goes my normal contrary self.

1) Ricky Williams had four less yards from scrimmage and the same number of touchdowns with 46 less touches than Brown going into the week of Brown’s injury.

So the question was never “if” Ricky can be elite. He was elite. In fact, from what I’ve watched this season, Ricky was our best running back. Now he’s getting the touches.

On the flip side the wear will add up. But I think Hilliard will continue to develop and you will probably see him get 10 plus touches against the Bills as part of his development. He has ball control issues, but with some more reps in practice and a increase load against the Bills he may emerge as a viable backup, getting Ricky down beneath the twenty carry mark.

In fact I was more than a little bothered by a certain metric imposed on Ricky’s carries the other night. “Minus the 49 yard touchdown run” and Ricky doesn’t have blah blah. Minus that run, one Ronnie might have been caught in, and the Phins may lose that game.

2) Chad Henne… Seriously? Tampa Bay? jets? Have you seen our receivers? Chad Henne (Spartacus Cannonarm) has shown everything you want to see in a young QB. Poise, toughness and oh yeah, a 5-2 record. Yes his bonehead play in the Tampa game almost cost the Phins the game (I watched it mere yards away from it – breaking my heart on so many levels). But there are not many guys who come out and make that drive with 1:16 left on the clock after a mistake like that and a muffed kick. All momentum was going the Bucs way.

Chad Henne was the only guy who wasn’t told that though. And we won. Yay!

Other than that the rookie wall might already be in place for Smith, who seems too “relaxed” at times for me.

And Cam Wake needs snaps. He is going to be a good player, I feel pretty sure about that. The only downside I’ve seen to Wake is that when he gets blocked, he gets killed. Pancaked.

Though the guy is back on his feet in mere seconds.

Last: Soliai has improved a ton. In fact he is a good young player. If he is healthy I think we’re fine on that department. We just can’t afford to lose Grove or one of the O-line guys.

I run a lazy, booze addled & thoroughly unprofessional Dolphins blog: www.thephinisher.com.

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by The Phinisher on Nov 23, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Completely Agree!

Well said! I have always believed Ricky was a better back that Ronnie, but they each had different strengths and weaknesses so it was kind of a moot argument. But Ricky has always had more of the big play ability – making guys miss, stiff arming a guy to the ground, turning on the afterburners and running away from people. Brown has always been that grinding back who will wear down Ds over time (Ricky was that way too when he was younger and heavier). But none of this is a dig and Brown. Having Brown as the trigger man in the WC probably works better than having Ricky do it… at least so far it has seemed that way. Having both guys was a perfect combo, and Brown will be missed. But if Hilliard can take some of the workload off Ricky, I am just am probably more comfortable having Ricky as the primary RB, running out of non-WC formations.

Also, I LOVE Henne. I was wondering why no one was mentioning that 5-2 record. I mean, nothing against CP, but if Henne had started from the beginning of the season, he could hardly have done worse, right? And he is getting better every game! Who says sitting on the bench is the best way to learn? Maybe that first year… but it is obvious that this year he needed to play! I think it would have been a disaster to sit him behind CP all year, so I am sorry CP got hurt but I am thrilled Henne is playing. My favorite play of these past few games? That little shovel pass out of bounds to avoid the sack. =) It shows the guy is thinking on his feet.
(Spartacus Cannonarm) – Awesome!

One question: Why isn’t anyone talking about Nate Jones?

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 24, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

O-line and Defense Keys to Phinishing Strong

Pretty simple formula for December – run the ball, stop the run, win turn over battle. Failing this will result in an early exit for the season. Henne won’t loose games (Int’s), Ricky will win games (power running, good O-line) and the D can stop the run and for the most part put up a decent pass rush (can be better than they have done recently) – put Wake in ASAP!

Key vulnerability is inability to prevent the big play – Davis and Smith MUST make plays. Henne is steady and reliable but ill equipped to play catch up or win shoot outs. D-Backs must prevent big plays, create turn overs and keep games close/protect leads. D line must pressure QBacks, disrupt (deep) passing game to help rookie dbacks.

Prime example of this is the last game with Pats. Run was contained but big plays ripped our guts out. Granted, Moss and Welker are going to get their catches but Brady can’t be given time to find them. When facing pass-prolific teams, we need to play our best pass rushers relentlessly. When we contain Brady and remove Moss and Welker as factors, we beat the Patriots, soundly.

If we exit early, it will be because we can’t run, can’t stop the run and/or can’t stop big plays.

by conchfinfan on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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