Ginn paves way as Dolphins sweep season series against Jets
This time last week, Ted Ginn Jr. was drawing the ire of Dolphin fans everywhere. So it figures that it was Ginn who would be the most important player in the Dolphins' 30-25 win over the Jets on Sunday - without even catching a single pass. And thanks in large part to Teddy, the Dolphins have done something they haven't done wince 2003: sweep the season series against the hated division rival Jets. More importantly, perhaps, the Dolphins are now back within a game of .500 and are 3-0 within the AFC East.
Ginn puts the "special" in "special teams"
This past week, much of the talk was centered on what the Dolphins should do with their former number one pick. The Dolphins decided to bench Ginn, who started every game this year at wide receiver, in favor of rookie Brian Hartline. Ginn admits, too, that this past week was the toughest of his professional career.
But Ginn reminded us all of just how damn good he can be as a return man, taking two consecutive kickoffs all the way to the house. And his 100 yard and 101 yard kickoff returns for touchdowns made NFL history. Teddy became the first player in NFL history to score two touchdowns of at least 100 yards in the same game. He's also the first player to return two kickoffs for touchdowns in the same quarter since Travis Williams did it for the Packers in 1967. Not a bad way to gain some confidence.
If you're human, you can't help but be happy for the embattled Ginn. And perhaps what is most telling is how his teammates spoke of Ginn after the game, including Jason Taylor - whose fumble return for a touchdown was overshadowed by Ginn's big day.
"That's all right. That's all right. After everything Teddy has been through, he deserves all the glory," said Taylor. Here are some more quotes about Ginn:
"People should respect him more, and, now, maybe they will," Brian Hartline said. "It was good to see him play so well."
"He loves the game. This is what he does," Justin Smiley said. "He's a professional. It's his life. I see him every day and how hard he works. He takes a lot of flak, but he had a great day."
But I think Ginn himself said it best. He said after the game that he convinced himself following his demotion that "big things might happen." Ginn added, "It's probably one of the toughest weeks I've ever experienced playing football. Last week was one of my toughest games I've ever had, the worst game in my career."
And now?
"I feel at peace more than anything. I made plays for my team. I stayed confident. My team believed in me," said Ginn. "To make them see that smile and have that happiness, to go from 2-4 to 3-4, that's great."
Now let's see if this confidence can translate into more production as a wide receiver.
Defense makes just enough plays to survive
Midway through the 3rd quarter, the Dolphins had only surrendered 6 points to the Jets. But then Davone Bess muffed a punt, the Jets recovered and the wheels came off for the defense. The Dolphins would surrender three touchdowns over the final 20 minutes of the game and nearly surrender a fourth that would have given the Jets the lead with under two minutes to play. It was the kind of performance to make even the most optimistic Dolphin fan think, "here we go again."
Second half defensive collapses have become all too familiar this season. And the Dolphins did just enough to avert another disaster. But man, it was not easy to watch.
Let's start with the good. The Dolphins did an outstanding job of stopping the Jets rushing attack. Yes, the Dolphins allowed a 100 yard rusher and a total of 127 yards on the ground. But that was with the Jets running the ball 40 times. Miami held New York to just 3.2 yards per attempt - which is damn good.
From individual standpoints, Jason Ferguson, Paul Soliai, and Randy Starks were outstanding. Give credit to Soliai for not only playing stout at the point of attack but also for ripping the ball away from Shonn Greene, leading to a fumble recovery that Jason Taylor returned all the way.
Gibril Wilson also looked like a different guy out there. Tony Sparano needs some credit here for deciding not to start Wilson. Chris Clemons was on the field for the first play of the game. Sparano said after the game that they "shook some things up this week, purposefully so. There's no reason for anybody to feel comfortable when you're 2-4.''
That strategy worked well, as Wilson was far more productive today than in any of his previous games as a Dolphin. Now he still wasn't perfect in coverage, but he was active against the run, effective as a blitzer, and didn't miss any tackles (that I can recall off the top of my head).
But it's Starks who was the man on defense, picking up 7 tackles, a sack (which we'll highlight in a minute), and two quarterback hits. He, too, had his best game as a Dolphin on Sunday. All told, it looks like the Dolphins have a damn good defensive line rotation - and will continue to do so for years to come.
Besides the rushing defense, though, I think the other key stat for the defense was how good they were on 3rd downs - holding the Jets to just 21% efficiency (3/14). And on the biggest third down of the game, it was Randy Starks coming through with a huge sack to push the Jets back to Miami's 15 yard line with under two minutes to go. That play is my "turning point of the game" - which we'll get to momentarily.
But, obviously, there were some defensive issues. The tight end position continues to kill this defense. Yeremiah Bell just doesn't look quick enough or fluid enough to stay with these athletic pass-catching tight ends when he's asked to. And the linebackers aren't nearly athletic enough to keep up with a tight end like Dustin Keller, who went for 76 yards receiving and a touchdown.
I also think that there was far too little pressure on Mark Sanchez, especially in the second half. There were countless plays that saw Sanchez have seemingly all day to throw. And for the most part, if the Dolphins didn't blitz, they didn't get pressure on Mark.
The rookie corners played as well as you could expect. They had their ups and downs. Each had at least one glaring mistake. For Vontae Davis, it was trying to undercut a ball thrown to Jerricho Cotchery on a drag route. Davis couldn't break up the pass and Cotchery took it 53 yards before being shoved out of bounds. For Sean Smith, it was a play in which he let Braylon Edwards get inside too easily, resulting in a 20 yard gain on an eventual scoring drive.
With that said, both made enough positive plays to keep me excited for their futures. I think they're going to be very good for a long time.
TURNING POINT OF THE GAME
If the Dolphins ended up losing, the turning point would have definitely been the muffed punt by Davone Bess. But Davone is off the hook. And part of the reason why is because Randy Starks came through in a big way. It was 3rd & 6 from Miami's 8 yard line when Starks beat one of the best guard's in football, Alan Faneca, one on one and laid a big hit on Mark Sanchez, resulting in a 7 yard loss and making it 4th & 13 from the 15 with 1 minute and a half to go. Those were a big seven yards, people. Just think of the difference between a 4th down from Miami's 8 to a 4th from the 15. There are a million more options for the Jets if Sanchez is able to even throw the ball away. But Starks came flying through the line seemingly out of nowhere to make a game-saving play for this defense.
TOOL OF THE GAME
Bart Scott - you're an idiot.
Even after losing to the Dolphins for the second time this season, Scott still ran his mouth after the game, sarcastically mocking the Dolphins:
"They're a great team. They'll probably contend for the Super Bowl. They have a tremendous offense -- great running backs, a great quarterback, a great tight end. They are stacked across the board. I'm serious. They are great.
"They have a tremendous offense and they showed it today. They are Super Bowl contenders and they will probably take it all the way."
Leave it to a New Yorker, of all people, to say it best. On his Sunday night sports show on NBC in New York, Mike Francesa blasted Scott, calling him a "total fool" and "total jerk" - among other things. And he said he's the kind of player you don't want on your team. Can't disagree with any of that.
QUICK HITS
Some more quick thoughts on the game:
- I love love love the defensive back blitzes that Miami used on a lot of their 3rd downs today. I recall seeing, on any given 3rd down, Yeremiah Bell, Vontae Davis, Gibril Wilson, and Nathan Jones all have a chance to blitz. And it seemed to work. Don't know why they got away from it late in the game.
- The Jets call the 'Wildcat' a gimmick? The Jets ran a flea-flicker and an end-around, both more "gimmicky" than the Wildcat.
- Speaking of the Wildcat, the Jets did a good job of stuffing it all game.
- Which brings me to the offensive line. They played poorly today, no doubt about it. They gave Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams no running room and really struggled to protect Chad Henne. I hope this is just a bump in the road.
- As far as Henne goes, it was an "ok" performance. But I get the feeling he might be over-thinking some throws, especially when he's under pressure. He needs to get rid of the ball quicker. And he simply can't afford to go backwards when under pressure. That's always a "no-no." But at least there were no mistakes. All in all, not bad for his first career road start.
- Boy does this team need a go-to receiver. There were too many times where no receiver at all could get open.
- Is Reggie Torbor better than Channing Crowder? I would have laughed at that question a week ago. Now it's not a no-brainer anymore, folks. He isn't any worse, that's for sure. Just something to think about, I suppose.
- Davone Bess hasn't looked like himself these past two weeks. But even with that said, I'm not worried about him at all. That's the kind of trust I have in him after his impressive rookie season last year.
- Even with the poor defensive performance today (allowing 378 yards of offense), that unit did something it hadn't done all season - it finished. That's certainly a building block for the rest of the year.
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Way to go Teddy!
Couldn’t have been happier for Teddy for those 2 consecutive returns. If you have watched the Dolphins for as long as I have (1972), you would know we have very few, don’t know for sure but have to be less than half a dozen and even fewer punt returns for TD’s. Fulton Walker had the big one in the Super Bowl loss to Washington. Great Day!
by coloradokevin on Nov 2, 2009 12:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Torbor...his play on the 4th and 10 conversion to Keller wasn't great, but at least he was there...
If Crowder had been covering Keller, he would have scored.
The Defensive Coordinator really needs to scheme to get the D-Linemen into one-on-one matchups that they can exploit.
The strength of this team is the D-Line.
I still think we are better with Culver and Clemons as safeties.
Corner Blitz baby!
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by DolphDallas on Nov 2, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
had he turned around it would have saved us from a few coronaries.
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I want some games where I am not stressed out for 3 straight hours.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well we had the Buffalo game
Who knows how long it will be till we can watch a game without any worries again. I was almost to that point against the Saints……ALMOST!!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very Happy With the Win
Now we need to just beat a superior team to get this thing rolling. We came close with all our losses, but now it has be done. No more excuses.
LETS KILL THE PANSIES!!!
by Valbon8 on Nov 2, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Amen!
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Dungee said it best
on Sunday Night in America, after Wrecks Cryin Press conference, where Ryan said "We outplayed them"…TD – "Not if you cant play special teams and stop 2 KO returns for TD’s, you did NOT out play them".
by coloradokevin on Nov 2, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love Dungee, great guy and great coach
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Nov 2, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well said Tony
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Ryan, I think he outplayed the fins both times
Too bad he lost. What about his SB comments before the season? Wake up Ryan!!
by rtantalo on Nov 2, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so i wont say
i told you so… but we drafted ginn for his speed, and its about damn time he used it, great call by the coaches switching some peopl around and sitting people, sometimes thats some of the best motivation you can get. awesome game, really happy for ginn he can handle returns and end arounds for the rest of the year just dont throw him the ball lol
by danlr13 on Nov 2, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I would really like to see a 4/5 WR set with Teddy in the slot running a streak. I think we could create mismatches and get big plays. Also on screen plays or underneath drags. If we can get him in open field, then he can be a real threat at receiver. But, he should definately be utilized as a return man both punt and kick. He is just extremely explosive there
by KnoxVegas on Nov 2, 2009 8:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know why hes not returning punts as well. Especially on a day that he was not
starting as a reciever.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Returning Punts is a Vastly different from KO
We all agree Teddy has a fear of getting hit.
The chances of you getting creamed on a punt are much higher than on a KO.
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know but did he not do that for us some in his rookie year?
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he did
He might not have been practicing it…or he could have been practicing but was dropping too many so they kept the guy with better hands for the punts.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Sean Smith's play at the goal-line on Edwards...
even though Braylon scored, he had to make a one-handed catch and had Dustin Keller not gotten involved, I am convinced that with Clemons’ help, Smith would have wrestled the ball away from Edwards ala Nate Jones and Marques Colston.
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by DolphDallas on Nov 2, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Smith has tons of potential, but he is getting beaten way too much.
Specially because he plays the outside too aggressively to avoid getting beat deep, thus giving up the inside to the receiver while surrendering chunks of 15-20 yards every time. It’s understandable because he is a rookie, but I think he is getting ahead of himself trying to make big plays and taking risks all the time while not having the basics down 100%. Just be careful.
by MauMontaV5 on Nov 2, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is becoming slightly worrisome, but we'll attribute that to rookie mistakes, eh?
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by Farorefox on Nov 2, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats all it is. A full season and another full off season under his belt and he will be
a much better starter.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He will be fine
He has shown some great peaks at what the next 5-10 years should be like with him and Davis back there.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Tony would love for him to play the inside and give up big plays in his 7th game
by nmphinfan on Nov 2, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, agreed. I'd rather give up the inside routes then get bombed on the outside
Sean didn’t have the greatest game yesterday, but I really thought he was claiming possession of that stripped ball as it was coming over the goal line. And Edwards does not even come close to breaking the plane if Keller doesn’t push him over. That was a really heads-up play by Clemons to stand Edwards up at the goal line so Smith could go for the strip.
I have no doubt Smith will learn a few lessons from this game.
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by kmb8488 on Nov 2, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still dont know that Edwards had not lost control of the ball by the time he crossed the line.
Its one of those plays where either way its called it might have been correct.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It looked like Braylon had it to me.
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by joel311 on Nov 2, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he did
although, I think if he’s fighting for a first down instead of a TD, Smith gets the strip. He crossed the goal line, then lost the ball, then his knee hit, so if there’s no plane to cross, he loses that ball.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 2, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree with that.
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by joel311 on Nov 2, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree!
I have watched that play about 9 times in a row now two days later and I still say that Sean Smith had possession falling into the endzone. that was a strip plain and simple and he established control before Braylon fell backwards.
by unklphinnie on Nov 3, 2009 3:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THat's what I thought
Smith would have had it until Keller got there.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
omg, i was so mad when he dropped the int, and could’ve had a pick 6, we all know he was gone had he caught the ball on the goal line
by PhinsFan69 on Nov 2, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding the Offense...
we really need to make some serious adjustments.
The status quo is simply unacceptable.
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by DolphDallas on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Amen
100 yards? And you can’t tell me that the JEST defense was that good. It is the same bunch that we rolled over a few weeks ago. I think the O-line left their mean streak back in Miami, and Dan Henning left his playbook …….somewhere, because it sure as hell wasn’t anywhere in the Meadowlands.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 2, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The O line looked like crap.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey,
let’s not turn into The Jets from 2 games ago… give credit where credit is due. The Jets defense looked like a Top 3 defense to start the season, but we trashed it with The Wildcat. This time, their defense clearly stepped up even without Jenkins. The Jets front 7/8/9 were nasty all game and Pouha played like a Pro-Bowl DT.
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by joel311 on Nov 2, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They looked better....
but we play called right into their strength. We could have slowed that rush down with the correct play calls. But you can’t tell me that the Jets beat us (up front) with our O line playing well.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i really think we should get one of our big guys to take out the tight end each play
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by jojo phin fan on Nov 2, 2009 1:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
te's that have gotten free release have killed us all year
one thing Porter could do since he isnt getting to the QB
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 2, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Wake, Did he even get playing time. Peezy just isn't getting it done. Let the kid have some playing time. Maybe after next week they'll give him some.
Since our schedule becomes somewhat easier.
by D0lphins4Life on Nov 2, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
right, when i saw JT and Peezy standing on the sidelines on a passing down, why the hell wasnt he on the damn field?! Im startin to get upset not seeing him on passing downs, we’ve seen it a couple of times when he gets put in, he gets to the qb instantly!
by PhinsFan69 on Nov 2, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and how good was clemens in coverage
I wasnt able to watch the game
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by jojo phin fan on Nov 2, 2009 1:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall seeing him much, just once where he tried to assist on a tackle
Our pass D got crush again, so I suppose he wasn’t too bright.
by MauMontaV5 on Nov 2, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just glad Clemons is out there
now if we can somehow manage to get Bell off the field for Culver.. then we can start talking
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 2, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Bell got too big. He needs to trim down but I think he is a great player.
by 54 on Nov 2, 2009 2:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clemons looked good today
His speed at the safety position will do us a lot of favors before it’s over. And he looked like an absolute beast on special teams.
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by kmb8488 on Nov 2, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He definitely looked a lot better
I want to see more of him!!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know Clemons had dreads
I found myself saying who’s that guy? I don’t remember exactly what he did but he was flying around on the field and caught my attention.
by 54 on Nov 2, 2009 2:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's only one thing I don't understand.
Fatty Ryan and the jets players keep saying that they “outplayed” us, and that they “handed the Dolphins the game.”
The Jets lead for a little while in the 1st half, and then they were behind for the rest of the game. What is the logic if you play from behind for half the game, that you “handed” the other team the win.
If you want to see what handing a team a win is, please reference the Fins/Saints game. We outplayed the jets today. Pure and simple. And I’m very happy that our QB looks like a man on the sidelines and not a whimpering little pansy. You all have to agree that snatchez looks like he’s going to cry on the sideline.
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by gatorfin on Nov 2, 2009 2:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jets said that because...
That is what the Jets have ALWAYS DONE whenever they lose a game that they could have won. I’s from Long Island and I know what I’m talking about. It’s just that when these things area said by bullies—and as long as Ryan coaches the Jets they’ll be bullies, not men—it really does seem laughable.
And yes, wasn’t it cute to see whiney Sanchez on the sidelines crying! Stop calling this guy the “second coming of Joe Namath”—Joe Willie NEVER would have cried on the sidelines!
As for Henne, I think he took his first road game getting rushed and maybe frazzled, and handled it well, esp. since he got that Haynos TD pass. In other words, he handled it like a man with maybe the most hostile crowd he’ll see this year.
by snorky on Nov 2, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
* I'm from NY
anyway, Jets are a team that has always made excuses…one reason they have about two division titles in about 40 years!
by snorky on Nov 2, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its alot better getting drunk when we win....
than getting drunk when we lose
by CaliPhinsFan on Nov 2, 2009 2:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent, excellent read..!
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by Alpha6 on Nov 2, 2009 2:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
NOO!!
Keep Ginn as a ST player!
A friend told me, bro Ginn is a great KO returner.
Then a light bulb got on in my head.
Ginn IS a KO returner, u put him as a Wr and u get a lot out of him.
Let him be the 4 wr, but keep him as the MAIN KO returner.
Just train him as a KO returner
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Nov 2, 2009 2:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
How good is this Monday gonna be...
gotta find me some JEST fans
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by Corroncho on Nov 2, 2009 3:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
HIGH + FIVE
Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.
by DolfinPhan on Nov 2, 2009 3:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ginnja
Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.
by DolfinPhan on Nov 2, 2009 3:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great Observations Matty
Guys, its great to celebrate a win always, especially if its the Jets, and its nice that we get the lucky break for a change (after the Colts, Chargers and Saints losses).
However, I am seriously worried about this offense. Again, the Defense did disappear at some point, and i couldn’t believe how easy the Jets were making plays against us (we made Mark Sanchez look like Joe Namath…hmmm, why does this sound familiar?).
However, i still think we shouldn’t expect the Defense to do keep making plays for 4 qtrs if we keep going 3 and out over and over again. We had 100 total OFF yards!!
I really don’t understand whats wrong with our O-L, are they out of gas already? We simply fail to run out of our base formation and thats very worrying. I would have assumed that with a) Rex Ryan probably telling his players he will eat them if they don’t stop the WC, b) no Kris Jenkins, that we would rush from our base formation more (to keep the Jets waiting for WC) and rush down the gut, but we failed.
This is a serious concern, if our running game doesn’t go, forget the rest of the season. We won’t beat NE with 100 offensive yards.
I would like to see TS and DH change the offensive look alot, one of our best runs came on a 4WR set, we go too often with 2 RBs, 2 TEs and 1 WR, which makes it easier for them to stack the box. No, we need to give different looks and get better rushing/short passing from these looks, otherwise we will continue to see 9 men in the box. From your base formation and different looks, they can’t do that (if Henne connected with Hartline early, it would have changed the whole game).
I think if we beat the Pats, we can have a run for the Wild Card, but if we don’t fix our offense it won’t happen. Change looks, run from the base using both RBs, leverage our receivers stregnths (short passes, and slants? we didn’t even try one!) and throw the deep ball every now and then.
One more offensive thing we need to get going is the pass from the WC, if we don’t get there soon, we will continue to see 9 men in the box and the WC will be dead (Btw, ESPN talked about the “Cat Blitz”, the play the Saints did and i talked about last week, which is to blitz one corner off each edge with a clear man assignment, don’t let the RB pass from your side, and they expected all teams to do it).
Other then that, i really hope we don’t continue to find a way to self destruct late (this time Bess fumble)
Go Phins (sorry for long post!)
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by MoLimits on Nov 2, 2009 4:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great post MO
We do have some serious issues to fix. Last year we we number one in fewest points in the 4th QTR, this year we are dead last. We have two really good run defense/blitzing safeties (Wilson put the smack down twice on Snach -one almost knocking out of the game), but in pass coverage they are less than mediocre and get exposed by good passers.
We still have no answer for opposing TE. Why are we still putting PW in? With R&R and a short passing game, the pass/option traditional lineup is our best formation for who we have talent wise – play to our strengths. The WC will still work against poor rush D teams, but teams with good linebackers now have a way to shut it down. If Henne is going to be our QB, then let him run the game and get in a flow. Those 7-8 losses in the WC really make it difficult to “march down the field” much less convert a 3rd down. WC at the goal line is a keeper, but I for one am ready to see us return to power running pass/option play. R&R can PU the blitzer, offer a great check down or open up a big YAC Ricky screen for blitzing teams.
by Dolphriend on Nov 2, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More then LBs
Jets had 9 men in the box! thats why going back to running off our base formation is key, Henne is there, put 9 men and we will play action all day.
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by MoLimits on Nov 2, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to add
- Ginn can be super, again i relate to DeSaun Jackson of the Eagles, a guy who has 1 yr less experience, is of same frame, and is amazing week in week out. Ginn just needs to toughen up mentally , if he does’t, it won’t be long before we are all upset again.
- I think Torbor had an excellent game, and IMO he deserves to more snaps. Alot more.
- Nate Jones continues to impress
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by MoLimits on Nov 2, 2009 4:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just because of this one game, where he didn't catch a single pass, expect him to
after two and a half years all of a sudden become a DeSean Jackson type receiver is outrageous.
by MauMontaV5 on Nov 2, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
What you meant, Ginn has been in the league LONER the D.Jackson! DeSean plays to his strength and shows great mental strength, not sure why i shouldn’t expect Ginn to play like that, especially since he has had more time in the league
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by MoLimits on Nov 2, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, Meant LONGER
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by MoLimits on Nov 2, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In Ginn's defense
Not that this means he will be great but I think we need to consider a couple of things before we call him a bust. He has only had a QB that can throw the long ball for four games. And as good as the OL has been in the run game they have not always protected the QB well. Ginn’s strenght is his speed, Chad Henne is the right QB for Ginn, we need to protect long enough for him to get deep.
Will Ginn be great? Maybe not but he still could be good. A running team needs a deep threat to keep the defense honest. That’s how the Jets got burned in the first game.
by rtantalo on Nov 2, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
lett CP10 throw to D. jackson and see how many 50+ yard touchdowns he has. D.jackson is as good as he is because…….. Mcnabb is as good as Mcnabb is
by frostyphinfan on Nov 2, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You shouldn't expect "great mental strength" from Ginn after 2 and a half years
of exactly the opposite of that playing the WR position. One thing is that he proved he can be an asset as a kick returner, but to think that yesterday’s performance will all of a sudden turn him into a good receiver and go to guy is just not going to happen. Remember, he didn’t catch a pass yesterday. That ship’s sailed.
by MauMontaV5 on Nov 2, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's probably not realistic
I will just settle for 4 catches for 60 yards game in and game out….with an occassional bomb for a TD.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just got back from the game. Boy did Ginn quiet the crowd.
Another interesting thing, Jets fans are so fickle. Sanchez makes one good pass and i here “sanchise” chants, he makes a bad one and fans all around me are yelling YOU SUCK SANCHEZ. Jeezze
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by Rytackle on Nov 2, 2009 6:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just more proof of why they are the worst fan base in the league.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think that goes to Raider Fans
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by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bla bla bla
Ok teddy you ran two back. Now catch the freakin ball.
by ecks on Nov 2, 2009 7:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Henne
Geez, did anyone else notice how terrible Henne was at looking off the defender? If he is going to survive in the NFL he can’t lock in on one receiver and stare him down. That was ridiculous yesterday.
by Bluechips85 on Nov 2, 2009 7:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I saw this one only a couple plays,
by PhinsFan69 on Nov 2, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great win!!!!!!!!!
is it just me, or did Vontae look like the complete package yesterday….He was all over the place, flying around and making tackles…
He also showed his closing speed and power when he was blasting people!!!!!!
by scbrandon on Nov 2, 2009 8:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
We see him get better over the last part of the season. He can hit like no other, but he needs to work on his coverage ability a lot – there were way too many times he let the receiver by him, and let them get open. He is a rook, so I am not bashing him. I think next year, after a year in the league and an offseason to train, he will be a stud at corner
by KnoxVegas on Nov 2, 2009 8:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn almost came close to springing again on his final return, he just needed one more block.
For once, even though they played horrible for a large part, the defense closed a game. The offense was mediocre at best, and I’d like to think Henne will play better, but I think alot of his shenanigans Sunday were due to not having a #1, and not trusting Bess.
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by Farorefox on Nov 2, 2009 8:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mediocre at best?
I think it is more accurate to say that the Offense was horrible at best! I could have used a few 4 letter words to better describe the OFFENSIVE (and that’s what it was….offensive) performance of our offense. Henning better get his shit together if we are to have any hope of staying competitive.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 2, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I also wonder how close he was to busting the first two as well. Its NEVER a good sign when
your kicker is making the tackle on two kickoffs in a row.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I saw that Rexy was calling the Jest special teams the BEST in the NFL!
If that is true, then we can expect Ginn to take every KO to the house in every game left!
LOL
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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 2, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True but in those cases
He was making the tackle deep in Miami territory….not near the 40 or 50 yard line like most kickers do.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn
What I noticed about Ginn in the past is that he tries to hard for the big KR more times than not. Maybe its dancing to much, cutting all the way back and losing yards or not covering up the ball.
His first TD was cut and dry, the second one he turned a nail biter of not protecting the ball into a good play.
But he did not try too much on his next opportunity, he ran up field tried to hit the whole and took what he could get… I was very happy with this.
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by k2oconnor on Nov 2, 2009 8:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
bullet point timeeeee
- the amount of hate ted got last week was disgusting and i actually made a post trying to defend him a little and got screamed at so bad i deleted it after 7 posts lol… although ginn still has to start catching the ball to contribute. hell of a game…im VERY VERY happy for him as a humna being.
- this defense finished, yes…but allowing the jets to drive down the field in known passing situations as fast and as easy as they did is disturbing…we seen it happen against the colts and saint also…not a good feeling.
- Henne does hold the ball a little to long BUT… i think its because of recivers just dont create seperation on quick routes…two sacks yesterday were due strictly to coverage.
- o line…. was this week one again? step it back up…we know they will
- devone… dont get comfortable. two weeks with alot of mistakes. we killed ginn, devone doesnt get a pass. he has to step it back up.
- coaching staff… we want wake in pass rushing situations late. this guy is green and raw no doubt, but hes a freak. lets show why we payed that dough for him huh?
- Davis and Smith. you had your moments… but thank you for making us feel comfortable that we drafted two studs for the years ahead of us… im very very happy about these two guys potential.
- DOLPHINS FANS IN NY!!! i live here and go every year… i was in section 314 and i can proudly say this was the BEST TURNOUT FOR US EVER UP HERE. it was a great day and the turnout really irked the jet fans.
by DRINKtheGINN on Nov 2, 2009 8:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ohh and p.s.
bart scott is a pussy and bitch… thank you mike francesa for blasting him and ryan.
by DRINKtheGINN on Nov 2, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will forgive Ginn for the Saints game if
he “makes Henne look like Dan Marino” against the Patriots next game.
by metalhead86 on Nov 2, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
High expectations?
I really don’t think that will happen, but I would be happy if he just started catching the few balls that are thrown his way!!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ill be happy if he returns 2 more kick offs for TDs
by Wade on Nov 2, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will be happy if he averages about 27 a return for the rest of the year
That means we will be starting around the 30-35 yard line here on out.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he could just catch one big pass a game and make some plays in the return game
then I would be happy.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen brother
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 2, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Receivers NOT OPEN
In response to the post about receivers not being open, I saw many times where Henne threw the ball 5 yards past open receivers. Nerves? Maybe! He’s going to have to get the ball where it needs to be and then lets see how bad our receivers are. I suspect they are not as bad as everyone seems to think.
by tony goodstuff on Nov 2, 2009 8:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
there is no excuse, he had an awful game again, just like NO
by MauMontaV5 on Nov 2, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, no. It wasn't an awful game... at all
It wasn’t great. It might’ve even been mediocre, but it wasn’t awful. Don’t forget he led a 7 minute drive in the fourth quarter that resulted in a touchdown. Henne still has a lot to learn, but he navigated that drive superbly.
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by kmb8488 on Nov 2, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
100 total yards.....it was AAAAWWEFULLL
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're talking about the offense as a whole
I would consider Henne’s performance “awful” if he had two lost fumbles and three INTs, but besides getting sacked for unnecessary losses on a few plays, I thought he did an adequate job of managing the game. I certainly would’ve preferred 300 yds passsing and two TDs, but it’s his first game on the road and his first in the dreaded Ghettolands (where many a Dolphin QB has gone to die).
But you know what? Let’s compare Henne’s road performance with a few of the QBs from his draft class.
-Matt Ryan’s first road game was against the Tampa Bay Bucs. He started the game with NINE straight incompletions, but settled down and led Atlanta on three drives which resulted in field goals. No TD passes. His second road start was in Carolina, and was another TD-less performance (21/41, 158 yds, 60.8 rating).
-Joe Flacco’s first road start was in Pittsburgh (yikes), but was a much better performance that Ryan’s initial road outing (one TD pass). Flacco’s next road game was against Indy, in which the Baltimore’s offense scored three points.
So although Henne didn’t blow away NYJ yesterday, he kept the Dolphins in it, despite the fact his running game and offensive line both played dismally. Yeah, he missed some passes, but that fourth quarter TD drive was veteran-type stuff.
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by kmb8488 on Nov 2, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahah man spin it the way you want to, but a million sacks, a 1.9 yd average
and 50 yards are AWFUL
by MauMontaV5 on Nov 2, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
12-21 112yds and a TD
and most importantly, NO INT’S. He didn’t get any help from the OL or the running game, so the fact that he didn’t turn it over (he now has 3 TD’s, 0 INT’s, 0 fumbles vs the Jets this year, considered one of the better defenses in the league) is very positive.
I’d be hesitant to compare it to the NO game when he threw 2 picks to 0 TD’s and only completed half his passes. He was better than that yesterday.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 2, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not so sure the Jets D is so highly considered
anymore. After the first 3 games of the season yes. But then they got roughed up, and I think the opinion is they have come back to earth.
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Until yesterday.
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by joel311 on Nov 2, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but...
one of those picks wasn’t his fault….that should have been caught or at least defensed by Ginn. I thought he was better against NO than the Jest.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with Mau on this one....
No matter how you spin it, our offense was Aweful.
Look, I am a believer in Henne 100%, without hesitation.
But, he’s got to stop running backwards and losing 10-15 yards for sacks.
Either stand in the pocket and take the sack, or throw it away.
12/21, 112 yards, TD = is a JaMarcus Russell statline…..that everyone in here would joke about. Its okay to say Henne was off on his 1st road game. He’s not JaMarcus Russell, not even close. But you wouldn’t know it by the statline. That can’t be argued.
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are way off base there,
Russel has only played in one game where he had over 50% completions and 0 INTs… he didn’t even have a touchdown in that game. The simple fact is The Dolphins only had 1 drive in the 3rd quarter which didn’t exactly give Henne a chance to work some 2nd half magic on a tired defense.
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by joel311 on Nov 2, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when the play is a rollout
he’s going to be running. Bash the playcall for those, not Henne. Watch the plays again, he wasn’t just running for his life, the whole line was sliding towards the side he rolled to.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 2, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
and they had him rolling LEFT… what the hell is that?
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by joel311 on Nov 2, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I missed these plays
But while rolling out and seeing he was out of the tackle box, why not throw it away? Did he get hit on the blindside and I missed it?
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Inexperience
I think he will learn to get rid of the ball…in the mean time, BAD GAME….you guys can sugar coat it all you want. Play calling was bad….O-line was bad…..Henne was bad…..and you add all that up and you get 100 yards offense and 10 points scored OFFENSIVELY. We will not compete with numbers like those!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not bashing Henne at all....
I’m saying our Offense was HORRIBLE in this game (which it was).
Everything from Playcalling, to WRs getting open, to OL not creating holes, it was just a bad day for the Fins offense.
At no time did I say Henne was bad….I said our offense as a whole was bad. I think someone jumped into the fray thinking I was attacking Henne (which I’m not), and everyone piled on.
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The argument was whether HENNE was awful or not
I understand the confusion.
Mau and I agree on some things, and disagree on others, and this is one of those “disagree” areas. NYJ’s defense played outstanding yesterday and had their ears pinned back the entire afternoon. So even though Henne took a few bad sacks, he also didn’t turn the ball over. Our offensive line, running game and passing game all struggled yesterday, so it’s retarded to put all of this on a QB making his road start in possibly the league’s most unfriendly stadium.
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by kmb8488 on Nov 2, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I say he was.....awfully lucky
As bad as he was missing receivers, he was lucky one or two of those passes weren’t picked off. At least he had the sense to be safely innaccurate (if that term makes sense).
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are very kind in your assessment....but
If Sanchez would have played like that with those numbers, what would you have said?
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
He wasn’t accurate at all….the only thing that saved him was that he was inaccurate in a way that didn’t result in INTs
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
Brady, Schaub and Brees didn’t have super games against this Jets defense, plus it was Henne’s first road start. the OL didn’t help, nor the playcalling (too many 3rd and longs). Yes, he missed some open receivers (Hartline on first drive!), but i guess his performance wasn’t that bad
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by MoLimits on Nov 2, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
I just don’t think that the OC did a lot to help Henne. His play calling was horrible. Jets defense is good and has given top tier QBs trouble so we shouldn’t kill Henne. The one thing I will bust Henne on is holding the ball too long as well as running backwards. That just will not cut it.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 2, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coaching is the key
All the post’s are concerned about , second half meltdown on the defense, in all our games and NO PRESSURE on the QB’S. On the offensive side, bad play calling is another factor . These aren’t players problems they are Coaching Problems. The def. coordinator looks like he pulls every def. players back off the receivers in the second half. Like an almost “prevent” def. The small amount of blitzing that we do is totally eliminated in the second half. The Jets stopped the Wildcat in this game, so why keep trying to run it in key situations. Use their defense against them. Fake the Wildcat and burn them with the pass and I don’t mean Pat White ( What was that all about?).
by tony goodstuff on Nov 2, 2009 8:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I really want a hotdog for some reason right now.
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by Alpha6 on Nov 2, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A6 - giving away Rexy's 10am snack?
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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 2, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Rex Ryan likes eating big weiners!
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 3, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still pumped up about this game and I can't wait for this week's game.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 2, 2009 9:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on the win.
I’m glad Ginn did well for you. I love redemption stories.
I can’t believe that Ryan is still not giving you credit. “The better team lost.”? What kind of crap is that. No respect at all.
This should be a great game this weekend. The buy week sucked for me, and I didn’t get to see your game.
My Panthers fan son is happy, though and so is my Eagles fan son. Not so bad.
This is one of the few weeks this year that I can’t wish you luck. Hope you understand, still I hope neither team has injuries.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 2, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I complelty understand and I also hope there are no injuries on either team.
I also couldn’t believe what Ryan said after the game, he is a classless moron. Ginn was purely amazing, I was happy it was redemption, too. Good thing for your sons, I have to hope against you being happy after this coming up game, sorry. It is most likely going to be a great game and I can’t wait.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 2, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see how Tommy does with JT and Porter after him all day.
Phins always play us tough.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 2, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Tommy boy like to be sandwiched....
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by Alpha6 on Nov 2, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know he likes Mayo, but sandwiched? Not so much.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 2, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JT has a talent for getting to Brady! Good luck!
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least JT and Brady are friends.
He won’t let that get in the way of a good sack, but at least I know that if he takes Brady’s knee out, it was an accident. Never sure with some of those guys.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 2, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well I'm hoping they keep it up. I love close games that we end up winning.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 2, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer the blowout wins myself but both are better than a loss.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 2, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
I think I will live longer in the long run and probably break less things in the house that way!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh by the way,
Marima had a cool link on PatsPulpit about how Ted Ginn Sr. saved future Pats linebacker Pierre Woods from a life on the streets. He did such a good job, that he started doing it for other kids. I did a fanshot over here (first ever on another team’s site) in case anyone was interested. Saint Ginn.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 2, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm going to go read that. Good find
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 2, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Such a good natured fan DIB
Me personally, I like to see JEST players laying on the turf….as long as they aren’t career ending injuries.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
moving foward
Above and beyond the huge strides we took last year we’re actually still making huge progress. They’ve managed to infuse youth at QB, OL, DL and DB. They’ve followed up the AFC East title with a 3-0 start in the division. Granted we’ve yet to see the Pats but lets not forget the surprises that lay ahead before last year’s first Pats game. Everything from last year has continued which is the best sign.
Some would say that with Henne in all year we’d have a better record. Lets never forget what Pennington did for us and lets assume Henne needed every game behind CP he could get. It reminds me of the convo between Jamie Fox and Al Pachino at the end of AGS. How Fox’s character had learned more in the first half by watching the old vet then he had his whole career, or something to that extent. The only difference is Henne seemedto get it from day 1 wih CP. I can justify each of the 4 losses by saying we just weren’t better on those 4 days. We’ve lost to good teams and the key is to win the games your supposed to and split the ones you not favored in. Thats a good start at least. Lets hope we pull a few unexpected wins out of the bag going foward.
Great win!
by special agent wildcat on Nov 2, 2009 9:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
What a difference a week makes...
last week, we were so dominant for long stretches against the saints, only to fully collapse and have the win stolen from under us.
Fast forward to now and I think we’d all agree that this was hardly our finest game and/or performance. In many ways the jets outplayed us – their running game, passing game were all better. Not to mention they sacked Henne countless times.
Yet we managed to pull it out with some very timely big plays………JT’s fumble, Ginn’s returns. So let’s give Ted Ginn some big kudos. Yeah as a receiver he’s still horrible, but as a return man he pulled his weight and then some today. Good job.
This week’s win feels great and maybe not entirely makes up for last week, but it sure feels like getting more than you paid for!
by Natalya on Nov 2, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I see one of the luckiest guys in the world right now....
As always, a great comment from great observations.
In your second para., we did that to the Saints and lost. It’s done to us and we win. The football sports world is upside down!
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by Alpha6 on Nov 2, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
according to the JESTS.....
the wildcat is a gimmick..and yet they stopped the wildcat this week…so whats the excuse then?….Yeah, you punks, we outplayed you. Even tho’ your coach says you outplayed us,and we looked terrible, then guess what that makes you look like?……Even worse. Enjoy your hot dogs, its the only trophy you’ll be sticking in your mouth.
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by zero13 on Nov 2, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry...
I’m sure one of their players will now start referring to Ted Ginns return ability as a, ‘gimmick’….
by Natalya on Nov 2, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And how ALL KO's should be downed on the 20 as a touchback, no runbacks allowed - hey this IS the NFL
not college!
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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by PhinsTifosi on Nov 2, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To start with....Yippie for the win
Ok, now that the celebration is out of the way, lets get back to reality. We, the Dolphins, were extremely lucky against the J-E-T-S yesterday. In reality we should have lost that game. There were several things that the game showed, or at least should have showed our team. I hope that the coaching staff paid as much attention to the game as they should have.
1. Our defense still needs a lot of work. We can’t cover a TE….AT ALL!! We abandon putting pressure on the QB in the second half (against the Saints, and Jets) and it damn near cost us another game. A positive is that the tackling seemed to be a lot better. I didn’t see as many missed tackles as in previous games.
2. Someone in the receiving corps needs to step up. I don’t know who it is going to be, and I don’t care. Someone needs to find a way to get CONSISTANT seperation and take a little pressure off of Henne. The defenses are stacking the box every play and we can’t make them pay.
3. Henne has to get rid of the ball. Several of the six sacks on him were his fault and his fault alone. To help Henne with this, the OC needs to call a better game in the throwing department. There were a few plays that he did this well, but for the most part the OC didn’t do a lot to help Henne out.
4. The O-line can’t afford to take games off. We got no push what so ever against a defensive line that we kicked the shit out of only 3 weeks ago. I am sure that they made some adjustments which account for some of the drop off in the running game, but come on, get mean and start punching people in the mouth!
I think that most Fish fans will agree that we are very lucky to make it out of NY with the win. Call it poetic justice for the Colts and Saints games, but I for one am very thankful to get the WIN. We had better start putting together some complete games if we hope to defend our AFC East crown.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 2, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeap, we should have lost this week....
but then we should have won last week.
Does it even out? I think most of us would say a division win (to cap a sweep for the year) against the jets, feels a little sweeter, not to mention more useful in the playoff standings.
No big disputes about your points. We are doing a great job of turning every single TE we play against into a pro bowl candidate, our OL was quite bad yesterday (and this is one high paid group too!), and the receivers are underwhelming….at best.
by Natalya on Nov 2, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I think that this game makes up for the dominant LOSS we had against the Colts and the dominant for half the game loss against the Saints. I will say that without Ginn, this game would have been ugly.
I still think that you have to take more than one shot down field against an aggressive defense. We only threw one deep ball that I remember (Henne missed Hartline by 3 steps) and the jets didn’t honor that at all. You have got to make a team pay for stacking the box like they did the whole game.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 2, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Davone Bess
I absolutely love this guy and strongly believe his performance is just a bump in the road but he has got to stop eating buttered biscuits on the sideline cuz he keeps fumbling the damn ball. On the dolphins last touchdown drive he fumbled the ball rite before Haynos had the touchdown, luckily no one challeged the play cuz it was a CLEAR fumble.
by Tdot_Fin_fan on Nov 2, 2009 11:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great win Dolphins !!
CONGRATS !! And you have a 3-0 division record!! Keep it up and smack down those Patsies next week!!
by WhoDat_OH on Nov 2, 2009 11:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Take down your Falcons tonight.
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by Farorefox on Nov 2, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope both teams send each other's players...
… to the sideline with tweeks to the ankles, wrists and stingers… with multiple contusions, cuts and abrasions. (nothing serious of course) Just a good ole Jack Lambert – Dick Butkus bloodying and a Ronnie Lott broken pinky finger “cut-it-off” battle…
[kinda-like a Transformer’s fight in the movies]
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by Alpha6 on Nov 2, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can breathe now
that last drive left me breathless, I seen the jets driving down field, and all I could think was its going to be another game where we are ahead and let the other team come back and beat us.
So I think Ginn is officially off the hook as long as he keeps performing like that.
Bess needs to get back to the performer he was last year
The O-line needs 2 be the beastly line they have been most of the season
The rookie secondary I think is just as good without will allen in there, can’t wait 2 see them in a few years they will be one of the many strengths of our team, already better then jason allen was.
Will they ever put Wake in with the playing time he deserves?
And Finally Jason Taylor is still a beast at his old age
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by HawkFire89 on Nov 2, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Ginn is off the hook....
I think he has immediately become the highest paid returner in the league….
and better hope to restructure his contract for a huge pay decrease in the offseason if he expects to stick around.
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Ginn isn’t “off the hook as long as he keeps performing like that.” He will be — future tense — off the hook, sometime in the future, if he keeps performing like that.
One of the things that bothers me about his post-game comments is that he seems to think this one performance has gotten him off the hook, which is 100% the wrong attitude.
by urbino on Nov 2, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You might be right
I was interested to read that Mark Duper tried to get in contact with Ginn and offered to help him on running routes (for free) but he never returned the call. Makes you question Ginn’s commitment to the team.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when we just can't close it out
It seems that we are consistently playing it “safe” whenever we have the lead. We stopped doing what we were doing against the Saints to put the pressure on them. It seemed this week on that last drive we were doing the same thing. I think we need to bring the pain on the pass rush and make them get the ball out quickly. If they mess up and put it in the wrong place we have a chance to take the ball away. Why would we sit back with more defensive backs in coverage and see if the highest paid player on the other team can find a single weakness in our secondary?? Are we really surprised when they do just what they get paid to do Why we are not in their face pressuring them to get the ball out every single play is beyond me… It works for us whenever we do try it. I love bringing Gibril Wilson or Yeremiah Bell on a blitz….
by Jason Scott_90 on Nov 2, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
even tho' a bunch of sacks,.......
i’m a bit happier about it..why you ask…cuz it shows that Henne is “comfortable” for waiting to make a play..He didnt hurry and throw a cheezy pass(int),or just throw it away..It shows he’s a playmaker in a way. It hurts to see him take the sack,with a loss of yardage, but on the other hand I appreciate the willingness to take a hit in order to make positive yardage..This is obviously coverage sacks, and where the importance of a receiving corps comes into play..Dbess hurt us as much as Ginn,really,yet we are all a bit more forgiving….Time to iron out all the BS and win the rest of our games…..
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by zero13 on Nov 2, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree slightly.....
Henne didn’t just stand there and take the sack. He ran backwards and lost 10-15 yards it seemed everytime. I’d rather see him throw it away, or stand in the pocket and go down. Anything other than running backwards and giving up even more yardage.
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
those were on 3rd and longs
and everyone on earth knew the Jets were bringing 7+ defenders. Instead of just letting him call a hot read, Henning called roll outs to try and run away from the pressure. Bad playcalling (and a slow QB) caused those deep sacks. On one of them, I’m screaming at my TV “they’re bringing 9!!! Check to Bess on a Slant!!!!” and instead he rolled away from his WR’s and got hauled down.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 2, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Henne needs to step up
When all the pressure is coming off of the edges, step forward…that way even if you get sacked….it’s only 3-4 yards and not 10-15 yards. Those long sacks just destroy drives.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure I'm human
If you’re human, you can’t help but be happy for the embattled Ginn.
I can, actually, Matty. If this is what he can do, why hasn’t he been doing it? Why does the man have to be benched before he decides he’ll start trying?
I’d love to be able to say we’ve finally found something Ginn can do well, but we can’t even say that: it’s one game out of a 2.5 year career. Given the data, the most reasonable conclusion is that it was a fluke. And given his apparent inability to self-motivate — the fact that he doesn’t show up until his incompetence is so totally exposed to everyone that he feels embarrassed — there’s no reason to think this one performance won’t top up his self-esteem tank again and put him back on coast for the rest of the season.
Smiley’s comment about how professional Ginn is is as goofy as Porter’s comment about how playing your rival brings out the best in you (given that Porter did nothing the whole game, and the defense got whipped the whole second half for the second game in a row — if that’s their best, God help us).
This sounds harsher than I mean it to be. I’m not a Ginn hater. I’d love to see the guy succeed. If he suddenly starts playing well, game after game, I’ll be his biggest fan.
I’m just saying he’s been here 2.5 years, so he’s got a record. And given his record, there’s just no reason to think this game is anything but a fluke, or that he won’t go right back to goldbricking.
So, no, I’m not happy for him. I’ll be happy for him when he starts earning his keep, like a man.
by urbino on Nov 2, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ding ding. We have a winner.
Agreed.
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by Fr8Train on Nov 2, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
^ Ginn needs to put up more consistency especially after the Saints game
If he looks good against the Pats this week and helps win the game then I’ll be ready to call him even. You lose us a game you gotta make it up by winning a few.
by metalhead86 on Nov 2, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love it JT!
As he walked past the Jets locker room on his way to where the Dolphins dressed for Sunday’s game, Jason Taylor put the Jets in their place: “It’s like a damn graveyard around here,” he yelled. “Talk about that for two weeks.”
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by Neo on Nov 2, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He hates them so much
and I do too.-)
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
Sparano yelled to the next receiver, imploring him to, "go get the (expletive) football."
by Neo on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well said on all accounts Matty
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 2, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
24hr rule..time to focus on the Pats....
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by zero13 on Nov 2, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why....
It’s so much fun to talk about the JEST when we sweep them…..especially considering how long it’s been since we swept them!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.. we have to put this behind us...and fast..
yet another…GAME OF THE YEAR is fast coming upon us.. An even bigger test then the New Orleans game with more at stake too..
by dolphinsfan4life on Nov 2, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't call it a bigger test than NO.
New Orleans would blow NE out of the water.
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by joel311 on Nov 2, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Phins & Scoring
Hey Matty,
FYI, you always have a great column. Very positive, very astute observations. I’ve been a PhinFan since ‘71 and the
past few weeks have made me curious. When was the last time the Dolphins scored 30+ points 4 games in a row?
Since Henne has taken over, they’ve been scoring! Whether by offense or defense, I don’t care, it’s GREAT! I don’t
have the historical resources on-hand, but, maybe you do. Not to knock Pennington at all. He’s great for the team.
BTW, your column on ChadP when he got re-inured was awesome. Gave me goosebumps…..Anyway, dig back and
see when this has happened.
Thanks,
Andy
by Simple Buddha on Nov 2, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it came up during the game...
4 games in a row that we scored 30+ was almost 13 years ago!! My friends confirmed it…but I don’t have the dates/games during which this happened that year..
by dolphinsfan4life on Nov 2, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they said it was 1991?
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by kmb8488 on Nov 2, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the last time we scored 30+ three games in a row was 1991
The last time we scored 30+ four games in a row was 1987.
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by kmb8488 on Nov 2, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do we see something similar to Game 3 (in N.E.) last year or one more like the game down in Miami..
they’ve had TWO weeks to prepare…they are gonna bring it!
by dolphinsfan4life on Nov 2, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One thing nobody mentioned
the offense was not very good, but I see everybody talking about how horrible it was to only get 100-something yards, yet nobody brings up the fact that we ran (I believe) 6 plays in the third quarter, and we gave the Jets back to back possessions after Bess’ fumble, and 4 STRAIGHT possessions at one point:
Jets ball (1), followed by KR TD by Ginn
Jets ball (2), followed by fumble return TD by JT
Jets ball (3), followed by second KR TD by Ginn
Jets ball (4) again.
I won’t disagree with the fact that the offense was less-than-impressive, but it’s hard to rack up yards when you don’t get the ball. I’ll take points on the board no matter how they end up on there.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 2, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Yeah really. Who's to say we don't go down and score on the 2 drives Ginn ran down returns?
We only had 23 minutes of possession or something like that. Our offensive wasn’t particularly productive because it really didn’t need to be.
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by Farorefox on Nov 2, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Our offense is really built to sustain long drives. When you take away 4 opportunities for drives, the results won’t be pretty for the offense. Most of the other drives did not result in big yards because the Jets have a very good defense, but the stats would’ve been more impressive had we NOT scored on special teams twice and defense once. But the result of the game would’ve been different.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 2, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agian Sir you and your logic are astute today.
Very good point and observation, Even I didn’t think about that. You are on the ball about that, Where a power run team. Physical, hard hitting and time eater. It’s hard to get production out of your offensive run game when they don’t get receive the opportunities to do so.
I said it earlier in the week, Henning is not going to make Chad Henne win this game with his arm. We have a great tandem Back system that has proven to be our powerhouse and if there is no time/need for the offense to go out and put more impressive stats on the board then what can you do right?
Good observation, Double points for you!
by Ex Sniper on Nov 2, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We didn't move the ball at all on the other 7 drives
We had one good drive….that’s it. We couldn’t run the ball, couldn’t pass the ball, and we couldn’t protect the QB. I am not about to give the benefit of the doubt that because we didn’t get to execute our drives because of our quick scores, that our offense didn’t have a chance to “get it going”. We had the whole first half and we didn’t do anything!!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?
DIDN’T NEED IT TO BE? We were lucky. We weren’t moving the ball at all. If we have to rely on the defense and special teams to win games for us….it will be a long season. Lack of consistantly being able to move the ball has killed us for a long time and that should be the biggest concern offensively for our team. Given the way that we were moving the ball all game, we would have been lucky to gotten 50 yards of offense on those 3 possessions that we scored via Special teams and defense. We should play the “who’s to say that we” game….bottom line is our whole offense was horrible and if we play another game like that offensively you can guarantee that we will probably lose.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd..!
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by Alpha6 on Nov 2, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And he gets the 3rd
Yes, our offense basically took the 3rd qtr off. And when we finally did get it back, we went straight down the field, scored a TD and punched them in the nuts.
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by Neo on Nov 2, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the Ted Ginn posts. Please for the love of God, just do long comments of your thoughts under the initial Ginn post.
I value and really like reading everyone’s thoughts, but we don’t need a Fanpost to read a thought that falls under 2,3,4,5,100 posts of the same subject.
I have gone crazy and it wasn’t a very long trip.
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by Neo on Nov 2, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Paul Soliai
About that time uce LoL, last year uce you were in trouble I even thought you were going to get cut, but damn this year you are givin them the samoan power. I think our defensive line will be even more better next year……………………. Our D Line is a BEAST…………….
SOOWOOP..........
by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Nov 2, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not on the Ginn bandwagon yet, but that was a great performance
I got to listen to the second half of this game and I had a lot of fun. 3-3 before the half, nothing happening, but what a final two quarters. Defense played okay, offense played okay, but special teams won this game for us.
Enough of this Ginn stuff. Here’s a HELL YEAH to the 10 blockers.
I want to see more!
Fanaticism is not logical
by SunDolphin on Nov 2, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it would be foolish at this point to even HAVE a bandwagon
let’s see if he can develop some consistency from game to game. =)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 2, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know it. I just didn't want to be confused as someone who
one week trashed him and shit all over him only to think him Saint Ginn the next week. Just like the great catch (the greater throw) against the jets in the first game, this is stuff we shoul expect from him each week. Your point about consistency is great. I’m not gonna celebrate a guy who made a great play just because he almost always makes a bad one. His speed has helped us win two games against the Jets this year, but hell no am I not gonna give props to the blockers!
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by SunDolphin on Nov 2, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I been hangin' around, just very quietly.
by urbino on Nov 2, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
... stalker...
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by Alpha6 on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
creeper
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by Farorefox on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
... hey, he aint the Bills guard that peeps in old ladies windows, is he?
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by Alpha6 on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
general thoughts
I really like the scrappiness of this team. I like that they’ve been able to win games so many different ways this season.
But…
Does it seem to anybody else like we’ve developed some pretty big problems in some pretty fundamental areas, over the past 2-3 weeks?
Our O-line isn’t run-blocking like they did earlier in the season, especially in second halves. (You can’t dance in the backfield or run sideways from the wildcat and succeed. You’ve got to get north-south immediately, hit the hole and go.) Our D-line seems to be consistently running out of gas at halftime. And our linebackers can’t seem to cover anybody.
by urbino on Nov 2, 2009 6:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There's plenty of loose ends the Phins need to shore up. We fix something every week, and something else breaks.
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by Farorefox on Nov 2, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what worries me, Farorefox.
It reminds me too much of the 1990s.
by urbino on Nov 2, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i honestly think that coaching staff had already decided before the game
that the Wildcat was not going to work on the Jets a 2nd time so soon. So, they put in those WC pass plays to try and throw a little doubt into the Jets D. But they never really committed to running it this game.
I blame the coaching and play calling for most of the problems with this game, on both sides of the ball.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 2, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And for a large portion of the season. Fresh Coordinators next year, hopefully.
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by Farorefox on Nov 2, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think that both have a good base set of plays
but they get away from what works too quickly. And they don’t stay aggressive with a lead. But both these things should be up to the head coach to fix with the current coords.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 2, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sparano has definitely made...
some bad in-game decisions the last couple of weeks. The kind of mistakes that make you fall in love with Don Shula all over again.
I can’t tell how much of the poor 2nd-half performances is due to the coordinators and how much is due to players just not getting it done. I’m not enough of an x’s and o’s man. I just know we’re getting zero pressure on the QB in second halves — one of the reasons Starks’s late sack stands out so much is it’s so unusual.
Maybe that’s because the other teams are making the right halftime adjustments and our coaches aren’t. Maybe it’s because our two OLBs are old and get tired, and neither of our ILBs is a good pass rusher. I’m not smart enough to say.
I’ll just say my off-season shopping list starts with a #1 receiver, ends with a young RB to start grooming, and everything in between is linebackers and safeties.
by urbino on Nov 2, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Matty?
Why wasn’t he ejected for doing this?
by Valentine14 on Nov 2, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they should have beat the snot out of him.
Here is what JT said:
“He ran down on our end, he had no business being down there,” Taylor said. “I don’t know if he lost his keys or whatever the deal was going down there, but he had no business being down there and we let him know he had no business being down there.”
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 2, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I loved how JT handled that
Acted like a mature Vet, grabbed the guy and took him away before he started something and told him to go away.
Kudos to classy, mature behavior.
by Ex Sniper on Nov 2, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did you see the ASS throw that elbow to Haynos' head?
Haynos is what, like 6’12"? Haynos turned away, but i wish he would have grabbed a handful of Rhode-kill’s jersey and said “listen here BOY!”
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 2, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that like 7 feet??
Haven’t reviewed my Math for Marines lately
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 5, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also like the way...
JT just walked the guy backward and shoved him away like he was a kid among men.
JT’s always been stupid strong for his size.
by urbino on Nov 2, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW... I missed that...
… that’s ef’ed up….
… not even a penalty..?
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Everybody wants a hero, but they're not willing to wait for one"
by Alpha6 on Nov 2, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it was pre-game.
he should have been tossed.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 2, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Question for anyone -
I came across a photo. How do I place it here on this website.
Should I just insert the photo here? Would that be OK?
Thank you.
by Valentine14 on Nov 2, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
see the little picture of a tree on the edit bar of the "post a comment" section?
if you right click on a picture, and select the image location (usually http://sumpthin/sumpthin), copy that location, click on the little tree, and paste the location into the pop up input window.
=)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 2, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FROM THE N.Y. DAILY NEWS
Read the CLASSY JT’s comments
by Valentine14 on Nov 2, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen this??
http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=50494
A Dolphin fan said, “Thanks for a great game. Good luck (to the Jets) for the rest of season.” Very nice. What he got back is classless, ignorant, and hateful speech. These people (JEST fans) are so full of anger and hate, I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Valentine14 on Nov 2, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Noooo!
Ginn should pretty much never play. they need to do what the bears did with hester the first 2 years of his career, NEVER PLAY HIM. the reason why hester doesnt take anything to the house anymore is cause he’s too tired from playin all the time. imagine a fresh Ginn out there returning the ball on kickoff/punt return. It’d be like yesterday, except every sunday!
by tylerrr on Nov 2, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow that pissed me off when rhodes walked over,to our side and started his BS
Rex Ryan probally told him to, go over there and do that so he can try to get inside of peezy’s head.but, JT didn’t accept that and got that fumble return for the TD.Karma anyways thats why i own a Jason Taylor jersey classy ,a real man, and a future H.O.F. good luck ’phins lets kick som pats ass this sunday.
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 2, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Teddy, right now we love you...
…as a kick returner. ‘Benching’ was the right thing to do, the kid certainly got motivated.
Go Haynos!
Bart Scott is a tool. Well said. What a unpleasant player to have in a roster.
It’s great to win the Jets =) Can’t wait for next week’s game.
by Rennie85 on Nov 3, 2009 7:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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