Henne makes big mistake followed by big plays to help Dolphins pull out ugly win
by Matty I on Nov 16, 2009 12:36 AM EST
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PrintFor some reason, things just can't be easy for the 2009 Miami Dolphins. In a game against the one-win Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Dolphins blew a 13 point halftime lead and needed late heroics to just eek out a 25-23 win on Sunday.
Before we discuss the game, though, here's what we know about the injury sustained by Ronnie Brown. He left in the third quarter with an injured right ankle. He had x-rays taken after the game and, according to Armando Salguero, Ronnie told him the x-rays were negative - meaning nothing is broken. But he was on crutches. Ronnie will undergo an MRI on Monday. However, I'm really not expecting to hear that Brown will be available for Thursday's game in Carolina against the Panthers.
Now let's talk more about the game.
Henne's big mistake, and even bigger response
With just 1:52 seconds to go, the Dolphins faced a 3rd down and needed to pick up seven yards to convert and to essentially seal the game. Instead, Chad Henne made a huge rookie mistake - rolling out right and trying to force a throw into traffic. Tampa Bay intercepted the pass and then scored the go-ahead touchdown just four plays later with only 1:15 to go.
The young quarterback could easily have just lost confidence and folded under pressure. Instead, he responded in a big, big way. Following a return gaffe by Ted Ginn, the Dolphins started the final drive of the game at their own 16 yard line with just 1:10 left and one timeout remaining, needing a field goal to win. And all Chad Henne did was make two outstanding throws to Davone Bess for gains of 25 yards and 16 yards. Coupled with a 9 yard pass interference call, the Dolphins were suddenly down at Tampa's 34 yard line with 23 seconds to go. A Ricky Williams 27 yard run on the ensuing play set up the Dolphins to kick the game-winning field goal.
To me, of all the things we saw on Sunday - both good and bad - it was Henne's mental toughness and unwavering confidence that was the biggest story. His physical talent, of course, was just as impressive - making some very nice throws. His two passes to Ted Ginn - which were both incomplete - and his two late-game bullets to Davone Bess were among his best throws of the game. But it was his ability to overcome his own costly mistake - a mistake that almost cost his team the game - that has made me inch ever so closer to thinking Henne very well could be the "franchise quarterback" this team has needed for so very long.
After the game, Henne himself was the first to admit he made a huge mistake, saying:
"In that situation I had a running lane where I could have just slid and we could have gotten the punt off and lived another day."
"I will learn from that definitely."
Henne made the kind of mistake that all young quarterbacks make at least once. But it's rare that he gets to redeem himself in that very same game by then leading his team on the game-winning scoring drive.
Jason Taylor was also impressed:
"I told him after the game, 'You grew up today.'"
"It's a maturation process. He's going to make mistakes. We all make mistakes. I still do after 13 years. The key is to bounce back when you do, and that's what he did today."
The critics will question a number of decisions
Whether it's clock management or play calling, there are bound to be a number of fans who will question Tony Sparano and his coaching staff for a number of decisions they made during Sunday's game. I wanted to quickly address a few.
The first questionable decision was the decision to kick the field goal with 10 seconds left in the first half rather than take a shot into the end zone from Tampa Bay's 12 yard line. But I agree with Tony's decision here. I think you take the guaranteed points in that situation to give yourself a 13 point lead against a team that has only scored 6 points in the first half and is led by a rookie quarterback. Too many things could go wrong if you decide to go for the end zone. There could be a turnover. There could be a sack, which would end the half since Miami had no timeouts left. Or Henne could make the mistake of passing it to a player who isn't in the end zone and that player gets stopped short of the goal line. So I don't see this as a bad decision by the Dolphins.
Sparano did obviously make a clock management mistake when he called a timeout following Ricky's big run with 14 seconds left in the game instead of letting the clock run down, preventing Tampa from ever getting their hands on the ball again. Luckily, this didn't prove to be costly.
Play calling was again an issue. On Miami's first possession of the second half, the Dolphins ran an end-around on a 3rd & 4 with Ted Ginn that resulted in no gain. Bad call. Then later on in the fourth quarter with 6:49 to go and a three point lead, the Dolphins decided to get conservative on a 3rd & 4 and run the ball with Williams - gaining just a yard and settling for a field goal. Again, bad call.
One play call I have no problem with is the play that resulted on Chad Henne's big mistake. The Dolphins were looking at a 3rd & 7 and knew that a first down seals the game. So why not trust your quarterback and go for the win right there on that play? Would I have called a different play? Maybe. But I love the idea of putting the ball in the air. And I guarantee that if the Dolphins had run the football on that play and failed to get the first down, many fans would be crying about how Dan Henning's play calling is too conservative and would kill Sparano for playing "not to lose" instead of playing to win.
My major gripe, though, is that if the coaching staff trusts Chad Henne enough to put the ball in the air in that situation, deep in their own territory, then why not trust him enough to put the ball in the air on a 3rd down earlier in the quarter rather than running it and settling for the field goal? At least be consistent - that's all.
TURNING POINT OF THE GAME
This one was difficult. If Tampa never makes the comeback, then I think Jason Taylor's interception is the turning point. But Tampa did come back. So I think this week's turning point was Chad Henne's first down strike to Davone Bess over the middle with 1:10 left in the game. The Dolphins were backed up to their own 16 to start the drive but instantly, after one play, were up at the 41 yard line and snapping the next play with about 50 seconds left. It was a huge throw and catch and if Bess doesn't make that grab, I don't know if we're sitting here right now with a 4-5 team.
QUICK HITS
Here are some more quick thoughts on Sunday's game:
- Luck was finally on the Dolphins' side on Sunday. Jason Taylor's interception was a "lucky break" for the Dolphins. The refs tried to explain the reasoning behind the call (explained here) but I still don't get it because the receiver possessed the ball, went to the ground, and was touched down. I understand the rule about having to possess the ball as you hit the ground. But it seemed like the ball came out a second or so after the receiver had hit the ground and been touched down. Either way, I'll take it. The Dolphins also benefited from a fumbled snap from center that Miami recovered and a drive-stalling dropped shotgun snap by Josh Freeman. So let's be fair - lady luck was, for once, pulling for the Dolphins.
- Dan Carpenter is officially "DC$" and anyone who disagrees is banished from this community! Well - fine - maybe that's overreacting. But what more can this second year kicker do? Carpenter connected on four field goals - including one from 49 and one from 45. And then he connected on the chip shot game-winner.
- I don't want to hear about Ted Ginn's dropped pass on the Dolphins' first play from scrimmage. I'm serious. I'm not surprised he dropped it, to be frank, so I don't even think it's worth talking about. What is worth talking about is how Chad Henne was dead-on accurate on that throw. That's a great sign.
- Who needs Joey Porter? The Dolphins sacked Josh Freeman three times, just missed about three or four additional sacks thanks to Freeman's size, strength, and athleticism, and probably got more consistent pressure today than they have all season - with the exception of the game against New Orleans. Charlie Anderson played very well. Cameron Wake picked up a sack and was around Freeman on a number of more plays. In all honesty, you have to wonder if Porter even deserves to start from this point on.
- Jason Taylor is still the man. No sacks for JT - but he had a tackle for a loss, two pass deflections, and an interception.
- Ricky Williams looked good - and will likely be asked to see even more carries on Thursday. I hope he's up for the increase in his workload.
- I've talked a lot about Henne - but I'm going to take a little more about him. Is it me or does it seem like Henne has a knack for converting on 3rd downs? Just on their first possession of the game, Henne connected with Greg Camarillo twice to convert two 3rd downs. Henne also fired in a strike to Brian Hartline on a 3rd & 15 to convert again.
- Off topic - anyone see Mark Sanchez go into the post-game press conference with a prepared speech? What a joke! I'm so glad he's on the Jets - he's ready to crash and burn.
- Sean Smith got beat for a touchdown - and yet I'm still not worried at all about our two rookie corners. I'm either an overly confident idiot or I see a lot to look forward to from both of those kids.
- Please - let's wait a bit before we holler for Kory Sperry to be Miami's starting tight end. Why are we so quick to anoint players? Relax. It was one game and he had just three catches. Who is to say Anthony Fasano doesn't make those exact same catches? Or Joey Haynos?
- I've gone on too long already. Here's the bottom line - the Dolphins are in second place in the AFC East - just 2 games out of first place - and will have a chance to get back to .500 in just four days!
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Good recap as always Matty
I think you’re particularly right about Ginn. Earlier in the season, I would have been pretty distraught about that, now I know its coming and I don’t even care. Not worth bashing him anymore, things aren’t getting any better.
Aside from that, ugly win, really ugly. We shouldn’t have had to win that way, I really wanted a blowout, but alas it wasn’t to be. Encouraged from what I saw from Henne after that AWFUL interception, really good drive. Let’s hope this win is the start of something big. Carolina on thursday, let’s goo.
Go Fins.
by ClownBabyPhinFan on Nov 16, 2009 12:49 AM EST reply actions
i agree on henne to
that man can play, i look foward to seeing him play every week
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by DPL3 Rollin on Nov 16, 2009 12:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Henne is looking really good
I’m glad he’s got such a strong % on 3rd downs, helps our running game big time. One thing I would say he could work on is he’s throwing the ball kinda high. I don’t want to put all the blame on Ted Ginn for that first long ball, it was a hard reach.
I didn't the see the game, so I can't speak about this pass
But its pretty normal for a QB to throw the ball high and make the receiver go up and grab it, especially if there is decent coverage. You always hope your guy “makes a play”
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Matty,
you may be the person I trust most in this community not to get overly excited for a player and anoint him too quickly. Or, alternately, the person who I believe leaves all biases or “grudges” behind when evaluating a player’s present or future potential.
No homo or anything.
Your becoming as excited about Henne as you are is beginning to excite me. I was already excited about this kid, but I’ll admit, I’m a “homer.” I hope it’s contagious for the non-believers.
I really want to post a picture of the unicorns in the “Charlie” videos when they say “shun the non-believer”..but then I’d be nullifying my “no homo” comment. So I won’t.
Great write-up.
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I think Mattt is definitely cautiously optomistic when it comes to Henne
because of the whole John Beck man crush thing last year.
you forgot to mention one very important contributor
I think our punter needs to be decorated for todays game. that 62 yard kick completly reversed the field position, then there was another 52 yarder and a couple inside the ten.
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Great point.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
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sorry one mistake in the post
Matty, love the posts and you are almost always right on and point out stuff i somehow seem to miss.
however, just one problem with the post. what if sparano calls that timeout with 14 seconds left just in case of a miss snap. in that case hopefully fields can grab the ball and chuck it out of bounds so get another shot. the chances of losing the game with 14 tics to go is slim to none and maybe he thought about a mis-cue on the snap.
just an idea.
anyway hope ronnie is back, we need him bad as he really is the guy for the wildcat. ricky has no threat to throw and i dont know if lex hilliard is ready for prime time quite yet. the panthers wont be easy to take down.
if ronnie brown isn't resigned, im gonna go pete stoyanovich on jeff ireland
officially on the sperry bandwagon
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by ronnie fo president on Nov 16, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions
Great Point
I actually said that to my friend I was watching the game with when it happened. Since it was first down you give yourself another chance in case something goes wrong. I can’t say I completely agree with the call, but I don’t necessarily disagree with it either.
Ricky
I dont know if Ricky can handle the load on thursdays game. I mean he hasnt done that since 2003. I hope im wrong.
Cant wait for the season to begin !
let Kory sheets play!
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by jojo phin fan on Nov 16, 2009 1:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Im actually on board with this one. If Ronnie has a small ankle problem I think he coul share the work load with Sheets or Hilliard.
I’m not saying Sperry is our Started for TE BUT we finally found someone to replace David Martin!!
Ginn is Ginn and if Sheets can be a good kick returner then Ginn is as good as Gonn lol
Do our recievers exist? Ginn crawls out the hole, Bess is stumbling but hope is not lost.
Gibril i like you and imma let you finish the season but, Ed Reed is the best safety of all time, of all time!!
Losing Ronnie would be a big loss
but we do have some deph back there with Hillard and Polite with Ricky
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
Sparano yelled to the next receiver, imploring him to, "go get the (expletive) football."
It is a big loss but hopefully we’ll be fine without him
We have depth and i would rather have him back at 100% when we play the Bills and Pats!
We need good pass rush vs Panthers!!! When Delhomme is being rushed, he likes getting rid of the ball, especially to opposing secondaries! So this who Porter strategy by the coaches has got to stay up lol
Do our recievers exist? Ginn crawls out the hole, Bess is stumbling but hope is not lost.
Gibril i like you and imma let you finish the season but, Ed Reed is the best safety of all time, of all time!!
.. this is not that big of a loss
We have two solid backs that could start most teams. Ricky’s actually been running better than Ronnie this year so I’m not concerned.
Ronnie does have a little more experience with the Wildcat and we may miss the option/threat of him throwing. I just don’t see it as big of an impact since we were stacked heaving in that position.
disagree
Ronnie is our main WC QB
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
Sparano yelled to the next receiver, imploring him to, "go get the (expletive) football."
We do have Lex Hilliard.
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.. I don't see the dolphins splitting time with Hilliard
.. this isn’t the same situation as we had with Ricky and Ronnie. We split time between them on the field 60/40. It won’t happen with Ricky and our other Backs. Start Ricky and feed the ball to him 25+ times a game.
Ricky should run for 1000+ yards this year.
Don't they still have Cobbs..?
… I may be up in the night…
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Ricky is a beast
Im sure Ricky will do his thing. I have great confidence in him. Ricky is a bruising running back, and I would like to see how Hilliard or Sheets could do with Brown out for right now. I like Brown but I hope he sits out this thursday, I want him to be recovered 100% for the remaining schedule.
go dolphins
Draft Taylor Mays in 2010......................
by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Nov 16, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Kory Sperry
you can anoint him. I watched him at ColoState Univ. He has great hands, runs great routes, just palys big. Had a huge game against Univ of Co his junior year 13 catches over 100 yards, a couple of td’s, started that season great, ended 3 games in with a torn ACL. Knew he could come back and glad the Dolphins signed him. He won’t disappoint esecially since we didn’t even have to give up a pick for him.
starting ted ginn really made our running game better though
I think eventually ginn will catch one of those passes and thats all he needs haha. It eased up the running game you have to admit. Seriously though i think i know why he can’t catch. Have you seen how he jumps? It is retarded he splits his legs while he’s in the air i dont see how you can catch anything like that i’m serious whenever he jumps he jumps splitting his legs wide. Someone needs to teach him how to jump i think that would improve his catching ability a lot
that and...
You know, not being a girl about getting hit. He really can only catch it if Henne throws it into his body with alot of touch. He’s never going to be that guy who snatches it out of the air. Too bad that’s what we need with a strong armed qb. Ginn is now our gimmick, more than the wildcat is. Eventually he’s going to catch one of these deep balls, and I’ll take that random touchdown, and his help in the run game. I agree, you could see him shifting the defense to open up that middle level. haha. oh man ted ginn.
Its a sad commentary on Ted Ginn...
Its obviously getting to him now. The pressure is affecting him and he’s in a major slump as a receiver. I’m sure that he’s better than this but maybe Miami just isn’t the place for him. Even having him as a 2nd receiver doesn’t seem to be a good idea at this point. All I know is that when he was drafted he was a very young WR, who had a long way to go to be able to play at the pro level. His rookie year was ok for him statistically as was last year. I have really rooted for the guy, but its just not working out. I don’t think its because the guy can’t catch I think its his confidence. Just don’t complain when he becomes a very good player elsewhere. I’ve seen it happen before.
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Ginn has been on a major slump since the 1st day he lined up as a Miami Dolphin. Nothing has changed.
And great write up matty outside of the not wanting to talk or hear about 2 more drops by ginn.. One that even you agree was placed PERFECTY and ginn blows it yet again..
Im not one for wishing bad things on people.. but I so wish he would pull a hammy or an ACL or something so we can move on past the Ted Ginn Jr era and into our future.. a solid #1 receiver. (hopefully)
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
by MainePhinFan on Nov 16, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
I agree that Ginns play has been less then acceptable However
I do belive that we should bring in a true number one reciver and play gin as number two, the kid is rediculously fast and not having the pressure of being the only huge play reciever on our team could be the revival he need, if we bring in a great reciever that has some decent experience under his belt mabey that will push gin to his limits and create for one hell of a pair of deep threats, imagine a deep cross route thrown to the number one and a lateral to ginn way downfeild, therefore he doesent have to catch a deep ball and still gets to sprint like hell. Either way he needs to step up his play, i just belive personally that putting him number two behind a great would give him the perfect opportunity to do so.
your sure he's "better than this?"
really? this is the way he has played since his been here. what do you base this statement on? he’s constantly dropped balls and run out of bounds. WANTING him to be “better than this” doesn’t make it so. he is what he is. a borderline NFL player.
he was not making any progress
serious or otherwise. i also want the guy to be better than he has played, but that doesn’t make it so. by the way, his slump has lasted since he has been here. that’s not a slump, that’s a bust.
"please close my mouth?"
why, since i don’t have the same opinion as you do? we are all intitled to our own opinions. if you don’t like my opinion, so what? i don’t like the fact that you seem to be allergic to any kind of punctuation, but i don’t ask you to use any.
Well..
One thing that hasn’t changed is all the whinning about he guy. Most people wanted Brady Quinn and look how he turned out. I wanted Okoye back then and he’s not that great either. Also this past off season Some of us wanted a WR like Britt and most of you only wanted a corner. No one was really complaining about Ginn, now he’s damned-near being run out of town. Its weird.
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He SUCKS thats why he is close to being ran out of town.
You do realize he is on track for something like a 25 to 30% catch to target ratio right? And if I am not mistaken he is still leading the league with the lowest CPY of all starting receivers.
He is a CANCER eating way at the Phins passing game and the team in general. Cut him.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
by MainePhinFan on Nov 16, 2009 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
This is taking years off of my life...
I couldn’t agree more about the Ginn comment earlier. I don’t plan on seeing him do anything. I’d like to see if he actually did get that catch on the sideline they didn’t challenge(Which would be an answer there). It would be pretty funny if he makes that catch, and they just don’t challenge it. He would make a great catch only if it was out of bounds. But…you have to admit, he is ALL we have to stretch the field, and it was noticeable today. You could tell they were shifting the over the top coverage to him on any deep routes. That really opened it up for our running game.
As much as I love Henne, WHO WAS HE THROWING TO!? Its strange he made that play. Usually we complain that he takes a sack, not a mental mistake.
Anybody else upset we didn’t try one shot before that FG to end the half? We left time on the clock, and it was 1st down with :10.
What was that ref thinking in the Jason Taylor play? He was watching it right in front of him, let it go on for long enough for the defense to even attempt to tackle Taylor. What else was going to happen if that’s a pick by JT? He was blatantly scoring, and it really looked legit from the time I saw it live. You could see it couldnt have hit the ground at all. Isn’t there a continuation push going on to the refs?
Why does our pass rush start out SO strong, and finish so weak? I really liked the play of Charlie Anderson(We left two fumbles on the field) and Cameron Wake. I love seeing a fast guy on the other side of JT so you can’t shade to him.
Need to learn to cover crossing patterns better before NE comes.
Finally got the middle of our defense back, and I think it helped the ends.
Please, Ronnie Brown, make a miraculous recovery. Please.
This would be a Thursday game when we need time to heal. haha.
Bottom line. it was ugly, but ugly wins luckily is not a playoff factor. I wish they’d play the Miami Dolphins #1 song, and stop doing this fins to the left, fins to the right garbage. We’re the only game in town? What does that mean? You don’t have another team to root for from Miami, so just root for the dolphins?
GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
also...
I really can’t get over this one…
We GET A PERSONAL FOUL FOR THE KICKOFF, the guy kicks a line drive squib, and Ginn lets that happen. Ha. Oh man. Do you realize how big it SHOULD have been that we had that 15 yards on the KO. Is he serious? Why can’t he pretend every team is the jets? Its honestly comical how little confidence and/or ability he has. Ted Ginn is our sideshow.
Relief
Didn’t see it, was following the ticker and i had a feeling our 4th Qtr Def will show its ugly face and in one drive we will let these guys back in. Happy to get the win but we won’t beat a much improved Carolina playing like this.
Some thoughts on my mind:
- Why are not using more slant plays to counter the 8 or 9 man fronts? Camarillo, Hartline and Bess are all good for this play, Henne has a strong arm and its an effective play against such defenses. Heck, i want Brown (hopefully he is back soon) to practice throwing it from the WC, that would be a killer.
- When will we see Patrick Turner? Lex Hilliard?
- One thing that may have effected the WC in past weeks was Cobbs. We started struggling after his injury and Lex never took his play. Cobbs knows the formation well and blocking angles, i guess we missed that.
On Carolina, this team plays alot like us in sense it all depends on the running game and making little mistakes. They have been playing very well recently. I think we need to play an 8 man front all day and have David stick to Smith like glue. I worry about Sean covering Muhammed in the slot, not a good match-up for us, but its really all about their running game. NO and Atlanta did everything to stop it and failed.
DeAngelo is to me one of the top 3-4 backs in the league, what a player.
However, a win and we are up to .500 and the season still alive. Go Phins!
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would he still be DC$
if they had lost by one?
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
Is it his fault the Line couldnt stop the block?
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No it was Garner who missed on his block. We need Smiley back that's for sure.
by D0lphins4Life on Nov 16, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I love Smiley and i hate when one of the big guys up front go down Berger would have been better than Garner
Do our recievers exist? Ginn crawls out the hole, Bess is stumbling but hope is not lost.
Gibril i like you and imma let you finish the season but, Ed Reed is the best safety of all time, of all time!!
actually yes
extra points shouldn’t be blocked…. no reason to kick the ball that low
but otherwise – i have no issue with DC kicking field goals…. even though barth sure as heck looked like $$$ money for the bucs…. guess the staff had a win win cut during camp.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Nov 16, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
the play calling
have no problem with running it on the 3 and 4 and the SHOULD have run the ball on the Henne int and make TB drive the field (something they had issues with) in a short amount of time…. you take the time off the clock in that situation as there are just too many negative that can happen passing at that point (cough, cough – kind of like when you say kicking the FG at the end of the half…. which i agree with)
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
The Henne INT was a horrible play call IMO
If Henne doesn’t throw the INT and just an incompletion, that play still stops the clock. It leaves the TB with a TO. You have to make them use their last TO in that situation. Driving 70 yds (assuming a decent punt) for a game winning TD is much more difficult without a TO. By letting them keep the TO, it opens up more of the field, specifically the middle of the field for big chuncks of yardage.
The bigger point of this whole situation is that Sparano and crew this year has been horrible at clock management. That play call is a clock management issue. Hell, they even screwed up the timing of the TO at the end of the game for DC$ game winning FG. You can’t allow the opponent a chance to return a KO or complete a Hail Mary to win that game.
agree with your agreement
yeah there have been some terrible clock management issues this year… somone needs to make one of those “when to go for 2 charts” for tony to use on when to call time outs…. 14 seconds no…. 3 seconds left yes….. kind of thing.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Nov 16, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent writing..!
There were so many good things to take away from this game…
Foremost in my mind is Chad Henne. He’s better than I could have expected at this time of his career.
Rec’d!!!
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You know i kind of liked that call on 3 and 4
I mean it’s not like it was a bellicheck 4th and 2 call (i actually like that one but thats because i’m crazy) and if we had converted that down then tampa bay would have a ton of difficulty winning. That interception was almost costly but i’m surprised henne could actually pull off that game winning drive. I mean that was a peyton manning moment IMO 1 minute left behind the 20 yard line 1 timeout fine it was only a field goal but with mediocre recievers (props to bess for catching those 2 great balls) and ricky with that run that was incredible. I’m surprised henne could pull a mark sanchez and a peyton manning in less than 2 minutes. I think we have a good future at qb.
Lets say we get amazing recievers and henne becomes a franchise lets just say for the sake of argument the next dan marino should we abandon the wildcat?
Btw
Are people still thinking we made the wrong move selecting Long over Ryan??? He has been AWFUL lately. Once teams teams had tape on him, and once they needed him to win games (not the running game), he has sucked big time. He locks on Tony G immediatly and keeps staring at him till he feels the heat. He has 10 interceptions in last 5 games, and they rank 26th in passing despite having an excellent #1 WR (White) and one of the best TEs in history (Tony G).
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by MoLimits on Nov 16, 2009 8:13 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
... very interesting
I’ve never regreted the pick, buy now it just seems more correct…
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Camarillo congratulating Sperry was hilarious.
Ricky looked great, I liked that he was running downhill all game, except I still do not approve of him taking snaps out of the Wildcat. He’s still got that great burst, but if this was 2002 Ricky, he would’ve scored a TD instead of being tackled after a 22-yard gain. He does seem more explosive than last year though, so I really am not worried about the Panthers on Thursday. I think a Ricky/Lex backfield could be extremely exciting, and I’m looking forward to seeing our O-Line bully around.
Great to have seen Donald Thomas back up after that little scare. I didn’t get to see the entire game, i just caught bits & pieces and my DVR didn’t record the whole game (THANKS A LOT BRIGHTHOUSE!), so my question is how did Berger play?
That last catch by Bess was amazing. When watching the Pats/Colts game, it was just so disheartening to see Reggie Wayne and Randy Moss snatch ball-after-ball out of the air, making spectacular catches, that were only the norm for them. Our receiving corps today, from what I saw, looked good. The Camarillo sliding catch to set up the Ronnie TD (I believe that was the same drive) was great, and the catch over the middle, superb.
I’ll close with this; a screen pass to Haynos? Seriously? He looked like [an enormous] fawn, learning how to walk. Redonk.
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Make sure we somehow send that post by “MoLimits” to Mel Kiper…He has been bragging since that draft and claiming that until Chad Henne is better than Matt Ryan, that Miami made a mistake with that Pick. Like you said Ryan has everything to work with and Henne barely has a no. 2 receiver and a year less of experience and I’d take Henne over Ryan any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
On another note, really! hope R. Brown is back for the Carolina game, if it was a Sunday game i’d be more optimistic but without him our Offense really isn’t the same but hopefully Ricky can pull through and take the load on his back for old times sake.
Also, our pass rush looked its best in any game since the Buffalo game. And I don’t want to hear that we played the bucs because any other non mobile qb without the last name freeman would have gotten sacked maybe 4 more times. I don’t think it was Charlie Anderson as much as it was our blitz packages and formations but he did do a great job of getting there and executing as did Wake, who its no surprise we keep raving he should get more snaps and he keeps proving why. Also, great play by JT, i want him back for as long as he wants to/can play at this level.
Final note, please everyone get off Davone Bess. I never wanted to jump on him for that fumble at NY or a couple of dropped passes. He has always had great hands and is our best WR and makes clutch catches like he did on the final drive. We need to support him. His punt return snuffs are do to him not getting under the ball but rather letting the ball drop infront of him, besides, who cares I rather have him focus on catching Henne’s zips then returning punts. Ginn seems to not be able to do the latter of the two so keep him returning and keep bess catching.
Ginn
Yes he dropped a couple of balls, but they still went deep with him! And it kept the defense from loading the box. He did however make an surprising grab on the sideline, but the ball drifted to far to the right and there was no way, not the best WR in the league could get both feet down!
The Patriots Suck
Are you kidding me, your not for real are you. Did you not see the catch Reggie Wayne made during the Sunday night game.
He and multiple other could and would have made that catch and got both feet in bounds. We can’t help Ginn is six foot nothing with aligator arms.
by D0lphins4Life on Nov 16, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Simply pointing out Ginn caught the ball
Maybe a good WR could have gotten feet in bound, but Wayne and Ginn’s catch were very different approches to the ball and sideline.
The Patriots Suck
I can agree with that, but I believe that his Psyche is so screwed up right now. that he can only focus on making the catch and not anything else that goes with making a catch like getting his feet inbounds or
turning up field for YAC. Instead of falling to the ground in a fetal position.
by D0lphins4Life on Nov 16, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
whoopedy fucking doo
an nfl reciever actually caught the ball. we’re supposed to be proud that he actually lucked and fucking caught one? enough is enough. if you think ginn is a good reciever then i just don’t know how to talk to you. have a good time in fantasy world.
Look at Ginn like Keyshaun was looked at late in his career
Its funny you say that you expected him to drop that first pass because I felt the same way. Normally after that play I’d join my friends in yelling. I turned to them and said “what did you expect”. But there is benefit to the play.
It showed their D that the threat exists and that does benefit the run game. The fact that he got his hands on it shows that it could be caught. I know the results weren’t there in his stats but he did look a bit more confident when going up for catches. Maybe that grows into a few catches each game down the stretch.
I say compare him to keyshaun because late in Johnson’s career he was more effective as a run blocker. It’s similar to the impact that Ginn makes by stretching the field and taking away from the pass rush and run D.
Ginn has something to do with 0 sacks and a strong grounf game. He’s far from the cause but I think he benefits the offense more than he takes away from it. Just in ways he’ll never get credit for.
I’d be happy with Ginn if he would just make on average 2-3 catches per game for 35+ yards. Combine that with stretching the field, solid kickoff returns and depth at punt returner almost makes him worth the drops.
Add a true #1 WR and Ginn might actually become a true offensive threat.
by special agent wildcat on Nov 16, 2009 10:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I liked the part where we won.
That was my favorite. But seriously, more irritating than the interception at the end, was that the intended receiver wasn’t even over the first down marker. Even without a pick, it was a bad decision. But hey, he showed up when it mattered, and that’s all that counts. Why does our D consistently nose-dive in the 4th? 7 seconds in and boom, TD. It is very troublesome. How are we possibly going to defeat teams on the rebound like Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Carolina if our D just gives up? Not to mention Houston, New England or Pittsburgh.
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Nice write up
the Dolphins ran an (INSERT PLAY HERE) with Ted Ginn that resulted in no gain. Bad call.
I disagree about the low expectations for Ted Ginn. If he is on the field, then somebody like Kory Sheets (who might be better at KO returns, let’s find out!) is not or Patrick Turner or Brian Hartline. He has to catch that ball.
Lineman are in there to block.
Running Backs are in there to run.
Quarterbacks are in there to pass (except for Pat White, don’t know why)
Receivers are in there to catch the ball. If he isn’t going to catch the ball in bounds, then sit him down and try somebody else (like Patrick Turner). Maybe he isn’t a burner, but neither was Plaxico Burress. Ten yard back shoulder fade?
Oh, and I want to see A LOT more of Kory Sperry on the field.
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Miami Herald reports that Brown is most likely out for Thur.
Not a surprise. Hopefully the surprise will be Ronnie showing up after all.
A few questions.
Any opinion on Patrick Turner’s showing on ST?
Can Sperry block?
What are the fianancial consequences to releasing Porter?
I feel great about a few things going into the Carolina game.
I think our team and staff benefit more from the preseason experience against them. We also seem more prepared for a short week based on the two Monday night games we’ve played. We’re used to short weeks. At least our staff knows what to prepare for and Carolina is left today with many questions.
by special agent wildcat on Nov 16, 2009 10:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The use of exclamation points was abundant this write-up...its good to see that rather than a sad face from a loss that was so close to happening
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 16, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions
Congrats on the win!
I didn’t get to see it, though.
Somebody on here asked me once if I believed in running up the score. I said there was no such thing in pro football. You have to play for 60 minutes every game. That Colts game proved my point. Stop a couple minutes short and you’re toast.
On to the Jets at home. Man, I want to drop a ton of points on them.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Please do
Even in losing to Carolina, they pissed me off. I didn’t even hear any sore losing from them yet, or Rex’s ridiculous post-game conferences.
I still hate them. Please romp on them.
On second thought, you’re leading us by two games in the division.
Lose by 1 on a BS play so Rex can’t tell you he dominated the game to deserve the win.
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by Dave.Phuller on Nov 16, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmmmmm, tempting, but no thanks.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
The one Highlight in Rex's rookie season:
“Well, I only led my team to 6 wins, after an 3-0 start, but we did sweep the Patriots, and I have more money for food, so what the hell do I care. Besides, the Jets fans are so dumb, they actually thought we won the division. It’s too bad the Yankees don’t play football”
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So now you're a Jets fan?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
No, and I hate the Jets exponentially more than the Pats, who I have a begrudging respect for,
but I need Pats to lose so we can get back into this. Sorry buddy.
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Understood, but I think there's a fair shot at a wildcard.
East
New England Patriots 6-3
Miami Dolphins 4-5
New York Jets 4-5 (They still go against the Pats and Indy)
North
Cincinnati Bengals 7-2 (Still have Minnesota and San Diego)
Pittsburgh Steelers 6-3 (Still have the Ravens twice and Miami)
Baltimore Ravens 4-5 (Counting tonight as a win) (They still have the Steelers twice and Indy)
South
Indianapolis Colts 9-0 (Can probably win out for the division)
Jacksonville Jaguars 5-4 (They still go against the Pats and Indy)
Houston Texans 5-4 (They still go against the Pats and Indy)
West
Denver Broncos 6-3 (Still go against Indy, San Diego, Giants, and Eagles)
San Diego Chargers 6-3 (Still go against Denver, Dallas, and Bengals)
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and don't count on the Pats to lose to the Jets
They haven’t lost back to back games in years.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I want you guys to drop a ton of points on them too but for the sake of my team, I'm pretty sure you have to lose
I would like nothing more than seeing them lose but I have to cheer for my team first. What did you think of your coach’s 4 and 2 call last night? Oh and thanks for the congrats, it was a tough one.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 16, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
No problem, I understand
Like I showed above, I think that there is still a shot for the wildcard even if we take the division. There’s alot of head to head games that will take some of the teams out of contention.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I just hope we can make it in, I get worried even more after every week.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 16, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Me too.
The schedule is far from easy. Good luck, except against us.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
lol maybe a little bit of luck for you guys?
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 16, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
And I need more from Sperry before I hit the Bandwagon.
Stats-wise, he was hardly better than Haynos, and Ginn probably coulda caught the TD (Well, maybe not ginn, but anybody not completely incompetent).
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agreed
I only ask about Turner because I don’t remember seeing tape of hm playing ST ever at USC. I’m guessing he’s spent the beginning of the season working on it. Lets put it this way, no one has pointed out that he hurt us on ST which is a good sign.
I’m curious to see if Larry Johnson ends up somewhere now that teams are suffering injuries at RB. I highly doubt Miami would even entertain the idea but I suppose for the right price it could work. I’d rather see Hilliard. Speaking of Hilliard, Carolina should be the one team in this league that he has confidence in beating after his solid preseason showing against Carolina.
Its really amazing that Ricky is still running in this league and even more amazing that it’s still with the Dolphins. Think of all the RBs who aren’t what they were over the last few seasons and guys who aren’t even in the league anymore. Alexander, James, LJ, Deuce and I’m sure many I forgot. Can you believe that Ricky is still running and so many others who seemed more consistent and reliable aren’t?
If Ricky’s load increases for a game or two we might be looking at two 1000 yard rushers.
If Ricky gets the bulk going foward in the conventional offense he might have a good enough ending for an Oprah book of the month.
by special agent wildcat on Nov 16, 2009 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bad decisions
Yes easily a bad call not to take a shot into the endzone before the half. You made all the “excuses” for why it was agood Idea, I’ll tell you why its bad. First “you play to WIN the game”, not lose it. If you take a shot into the endzone, you could get a “TD”, run down the clock alittle bit more. Those guranteed points you were talking about would’ve still been there after the shot into the endzone. I can tie my next point to my next gripe.
Why not run down the clock at the end of the game then call the TO? In both these cases, I don’t care how improbable the chances were, we let the Bucs get their hands on the ball when they didn’t need to. Thats gonna come back and biteus in the @ssone of these game watch.
Matty I like the writeup on Henne, but I’m suprised you didn’t touch on what happened in between. How awful was our defense against that offense? I know they had a short field, but that was why too easy. Afterall the 1-8 (now) Bucs did need a TD. Honestly. A rookie QB starting his 2nd gamjust made it way too easy.
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Sparano yelled to the next receiver, imploring him to, "go get the (expletive) football."
this feels better than
the loss to the Colts which I suppoe is as close to a beautiful loss as you can see.
by special agent wildcat on Nov 16, 2009 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
An Ugly Win, Is Still a Win!!!!!
I will say that this was a hard game to watch, especially since I drove 3 hours to watch it, but with that said I am really glad that we won! I think Henne did grow up in front of our eyes! However, if we play like this against Carolina we are gonna loose! Talk about a team mirror image of the Phins, the Panthers definitely fit that bill!
Precisely: a win is a win is a win...
and the ugly, half-convincing win is better than a well-played, wonderful performance by the team that still ends up in a loss.
There are no moral victories, only W’s, and yesterday we got one.
Agree with Matty’s points re: Sparano and clock management/play calling. I also think the 3rd & 7 pass that resulted in a pick was the right call. Remember some games ago we all got PO’d because the dolphins ran on 3rd and long, against the colts if I recall right. THis time they went for it but hey, it didn’t work out.
What matters is what happened after and that was that Henne kept his cool and drove us down the field for the win. He ran that drive like a veteran making clutch throws in a high pressure situation with the game on the line. This is progress guys, I hope others see this!
Joey Porter might have to get comfortable on the sideline – if Anderson and Wake keep being effective as yesterday, he may not be getting a ton of snaps.
JT’s interception was, sorry to say, BS I think, but I’ll take it because we’ve had way too many BS calls go against us in 09. Nice to get one back for a change.
Hoping ROnnie isn’t out for long, though Ricky is running like we haven’t seen in years. Impressive stuff.
why do we never try to throw with Pat White?
he was a QB for years in college so i find it hard to belive he cant complete even the simplest of pass plays in the nfl. Otherwise he’s just a waste of a draft pick.
We do, he just doesn't get it to the recievers
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"Otherwise he’s just a waste of a draft pick."
What some of us have been wondering all along.
I never liked the pick to begin with but even so, I’ve been surprised at how scatterarmed he’s been.
I mean how does a punter, (if you watched the WASH-DEN game then you know what I mean), complete a 30 yard TD pass easily while PW has trouble getting completions.
I really wish we had snatched and groomed a WR with that pick. Or even a safety or something.
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Well the WR's
that we were all oozing for were already off of the board. Despite not having shown anything with his arm yet, PatCat is another weapon that adds another dimension to miami’s offense. It seems silly, I know, but it really does. Since he is like Vick (in the playing sense), teams will have to put a “spy” close to the line to watch for him to run…this will open a hole in the middle of the field (if the defense uses a LB to spy). This means that once the game slows down for him a little that he will be able to find that open receiver. Give him time to figure it out, it wont happen with him overnight.
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The Vick reference is almost too perfect for my liking....
Runs pretty fast, great legs, great scrambler…..very inaccurate passing in the NFL.
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'used to run fast'
Now he’s just bad at everything.
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Naw
Whether you like Pat or not, he is way more accurate than Vick ever was. Guy completed a high % in college. Give him time, he is still a rookie and the game wont slow down for him overnight. Its not like he is in there turning the ball over or anything like that.
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"to watch IF he runs" ???
when doesn’t he run with it?// without checking stats i think he has only thrown the ball 1 time. that doesnt make it an “IF”. you dont think the defense plays him to run everytime he takes a snap?
by CaliPhinsFan on Nov 16, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
that is my point
that he isnt comfortable enough yet to throw the ball. If the D is all watching for the run, then he will eventually find that open receiver. I think it was the very first game of the season that he found a open Ginn downfield but slightly over-threw it. And he has thrown more than 1 pass, albeit not much more. You need to grab a dictionary and look up what “if” means since you proclaim
that doesnt make it an "IF".
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Sparano is setting up a live conference in a few minutes. Head on over and check it out.
http://www.miamidolphins.com/aquavision/video/coach-sparanos-day-after-press-briefing-111609
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Breaking down the "controversial" call
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066e3zOayuY
goto 1:30 on that clip. One foot still in the air. I’m not an official but Id feel safe betting that counts for being in the air still. Contact made.
At 1:34 is the unclear spot. He only has one arm on the ball. The other is on the ground. As he is landing you see the ball pop out. Since it is on the arm furthest from the ground you can see it wouldn’t have bounced up if it had hit the ground rather than just roll on the ground.
At 1:36 you can see JT getting the ball off what looks to be the back of a Miami Jersey.
Video footage lines up with referee explanation and complaint comment of ruling designed for hits in the air.
Don't be in a hurry to dismiss Porter
Don’t write-off Joey Porter just yet guys. We have to remember that he came up huge for us last year time and time again (remember the sack on fourth down against the 49ers??).
He really stepped up last year for us in the home stretch last year when losing one more game was the difference between making the playoffs and going home. I think he has earned some patience and loyalty from Dolphans- at least for a few games this year…
Ginn
Ok, we all know he can’t catch and hates contact but did you see the tackle he made? I think he should be returning punts as well as kickoffs. Bess fumbled another punt that scared the $hit out of me. Having Ginn run deep routes really did help some this week. I like the decoy he is. I also liked the flee flicker back to Henne that was almost a huge play. Ginn wouldn’t have had to fight for that ball. That is the only way he will catch. Get him completely open.
Henne vs Ryan
tonyy,
I agree on Kiper, i mean, i dont mind his comments but to say so strongly that we made a mistake, questioning people who have played bigger roles in the game and some who have won SBs (Parcells), thats just stupid on his part.
I am not ready to say Henne is better, but i can say for sure i don’t think he is worse. What is a fact that we were in no shape to take a QB with that 1-15 team in chaos (no thanks to Cam Cam), unless the guy looked like the next Manning or Marino, and Ryan didn’t, still doesn’t. I think he can be a very very good QB but not at that level.
Atlanta on the other hand had a lot of pieces in place, they suffered from the Vick issue and their coach bailing on them, plus the Turner move was mint for them.
Generally happy with last year’s draft (except Smily and the other RB we cut), and this year the verdict is still out on Pat White, lets hope it pans out.
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Who?
Who did we draft named Smily? Do you mean Smiley? He wasnt drafted, was a FA signing (and is one of the top left guards in the league when he plays). We didnt cut any RB’s that were drafted….Parmale and Hilliard were the two drafted and Baltimore took Parmale off of our practice squad.
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