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Trade Ronnie B?

Now I am a big Ronnie fan, but then again, I am a bigger Dolphins fan...At this point I have to think of all the possibilities for the upcoming season. Ronnie is due a big contract, has a history of injuries, and ontop of that some wear and tear on his body....Now if we were t trade him what would his value be at this point? A 1 and a 3? We all know, when healthy, this guy is a beast! but then again, an extra 1 and a 3rd for example, would mean a fresh new Running Back, and possible an extra pick (WR, ILB, NT)....

If we were to trade him, who would we get at draft time at the RB position to compliment Ricky for next season? I'll be honest, Ronnie is great, but an extra pick or picks would be nice at this point....

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Trading Ronnie a smart idea at this point?
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No
96 votes
ooo tough call....
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Keep Ronnie

Ronnie brings a lot to the table with his offense, including blocking, passing and executing the offense. To assume we can get another RB of equal talent and ability is easy to say, but not as easy to do. Same with the pics we may get out of the deal.
We are a few players away, and RB is not one of our needs. Trading Ronnie at this point is an unnecessary gamble in my opinion

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by garpow62 on Nov 12, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Look be ready because lots of people will call you lots of bad things

for suggesting this. But I agree. It’s just that easy when you look at Ladanian Tomlinson or Larry Johnson. Both elite running backs who have achieved lamentably way more than Ronnie for one reason or another has. These two started to approach being 30 years old and drastically lost a step, or three. LT is 30, Larry Johnson is 29 and Ronnie is 27 (yes, with much less workload on his tires, but an important injury non the less). Someone pointed out that if the CBA isn’t reached before the next season, then it would be an uncapped one, and if that were to happen he would be a restricted free agent. Or something like that. The point being, we can definitely keep him around one more year without a new contract. Then, if you asked me to put on my “tough-sob-general manager”cap, I’d put the franchise tag on him on the 2011 season. By the time that ended, he would be 30 years old and I’d let him go, with the risk of having him play unhappy. Tough, but it’s how this league works. From a strictly business like angle, giving him a top notch contract after the season with him being 28 and seeing how running backs drastically begin to loose a step at that age (former MVP winner Shaun Alexander rings a bell?) would be horrible. On the other side, top running back contracts seem to be diminish a lot money wise, so if he were to take a 5 year 30 million contract then I’d denitely go for it. He is our franchise player and a moral leader, for that kind of money it’s not worth letting him go.

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 12, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

As for right now Ronnie and Ricky are our only sure thing

After next season Ricky said he is going to retire so why not keep Brown and grab a running back in FA or Draft to take over for Ricky,not to mention Im still not to sold on the offense players besides Long and Henne (of course) that the trifecta has drafted this is a hit or miss all I am saying is why give up a sure thing for 2 picks who could be bust

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by Foy on Nov 12, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

We didnt draft Grove

and DT is holding his own but he is not that great

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by Foy on Nov 12, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

they did get him though, so same differene. Thomas is great in my opinion

more because of the 20 bucks we are paying him to play alongside one of the richest line in football. I agree with the bust thing and the other players they have drafted on offense. Turner is just lamentable, an underachiever since college.

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 12, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

C'mon man really?

Isn’t that what all us Phin fans are screaming for? Playmakers right? He and Ricky (even though he is retiring soon), are our only playmakers. Obviously we need to hold on to these two, because they give us our ONLY chance to win. While i understand the logic behind it, i cannot say i agree with you. Yes he is due a large contract, but they can front-load it with a guaranteed bonus that would only affect them during the uncapped year, and make his annual salary pretty low. He is our only shot at making it back into the race for the playoffs, and there is no way they trade him given his effectiveness in our Wildcat offensive scheme. Ronnie makes it go, and without him, the Wildcat is nothing IMHO.

Of course Tom Brady has to marry someone with Giz in her name. How fitting???

Where is Oronde Gadsden when we need him?

by FinzD54 on Nov 12, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

lol u did

but people got to remember this is a rebuilding project, whats parcells timeline again? 3-5 if i remember right…Ronnie is a sure thing now not next year or the year after that…I would just hate to have Henne hitting his stride 2 years from now and us having to look for a RB desperately at that point, remember, ricky is bye bye after next season….Ronnie’s value is as high as its going to be with the Wildcat popularity…just saying man, an extra 1st round pick could mean alot of things, including drafting a top talent RB and WR with both the picks…got to consider it at the very least

by daphinatic on Nov 12, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Ronnie is going to be good for a long time to come.

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
~~~~~~
"can i rec a comment is that possible I wood without a dout yes i will TIT"S with very big nipple's thx chris!!!"
-the one, the only, WZB

by chrislucas on Nov 12, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

major knee injury

and 3 years from hitting 30. I’d say he’s got 2-4 good years left before he starts to wear down. And (god forbid) he gets another knee injury, that’s it.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i say

no more than next season before a drop off

by daphinatic on Nov 12, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

well I think if he can avoid injury

he can play effectively to about 30-31 years old because of the limited workload so far in his career. But nothing beyond that, because he has taken a pounding, and I do question how long the knee will hold up.

I know it’s all cold-blooded, but it’s something I’m sure the Trifecta will discuss if they haven’t already, and I think as fans we should be able to take a step back and consider what’s best for the TEAM in the future, instead of falling in love with a player. Do I think trading Ronnie is what’s best? Not sure, it really depends on what picks you can get for him, and what you can do with those picks…

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not in love with Ronnie. I don't like him more than I like the Dolphins as a whole

I just personally feel that he’s a great player and can and will contribute to this offense for years to come. There is no trade I would accept for him at this point, except Peterson of course.

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
~~~~~~
"can i rec a comment is that possible I wood without a dout yes i will TIT"S with very big nipple's thx chris!!!"
-the one, the only, WZB

by chrislucas on Nov 12, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

I think there are plenty of other backs besides Peterson I’d take over Ronnie. Nothing against Ronnie, he’s just not as great a RB as people think

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah that's what I've been saying all along. He is a great all around

running back with catching ability and leadership and all, but he is not a pure running back in my opinion. I’ll tell you who I’d take instead of him.
1- Chris Johnson
2- Adrian P
3- Maurice Jones Drew
4- Steven Jackson
5- Frank Gore
6- Knowshown Moreno
7- Ray Rice

I think Ronnie is as talented as at least half of these guys or more, but in my eyes he isn’t the kind of downhill, explosive runner most of these guys are.

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I would take Knowshon and MJD off that list

but other than that, pretty accurate. Johnson, Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and Rice are all studs. And none of them have a complementary back like Ricky.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Knowshon is still learning, but he's gonna be a potent RB in1-2 seasons.

And MJD is spectacular

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by Farorefox on Nov 12, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just not a fan of MJD

as far as him being better than Ronnie. I agree with you about Moreno though, he’s going to be a beast.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't agree more with you!!!

Of course Tom Brady has to marry someone with Giz in her name. How fitting???

Where is Oronde Gadsden when we need him?

by FinzD54 on Nov 12, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i think MJD is probably better than ronnie

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Nov 13, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Ronnie has a lot of miles left compared to other RBs

He wasn’t the “Prime” RB in Auburn so he didn’t get beat up there. He shares carries in Miami so he doesn’t take nearly the pounding of some of the other RBs that are feature backs. I think that he has a good 4 years left in him if he continues to share carries.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 13, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

not gna happen.

RB is our most solid position right now, and ruining a good thing is never a good idea.

Ronnie and Ricky/Patrick/Hilliard would all be good tandems.

Let’s be honest here, Ronnie is hands-down our most dynamic player. He’s staying, plain-and-simple.

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
~~~~~~
"can i rec a comment is that possible I wood without a dout yes i will TIT"S with very big nipple's thx chris!!!"
-the one, the only, WZB

by chrislucas on Nov 12, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

I'd argue that

Ricky has looked like the most dynamic player on the offense right now.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

don't you dare argue with me Primetime!

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
~~~~~~
"can i rec a comment is that possible I wood without a dout yes i will TIT"S with very big nipple's thx chris!!!"
-the one, the only, WZB

by chrislucas on Nov 12, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Ricky likes to trip on his own feet

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
~~~~~~
"can i rec a comment is that possible I wood without a dout yes i will TIT"S with very big nipple's thx chris!!!"
-the one, the only, WZB

by chrislucas on Nov 12, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

three yards behind LOS

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
~~~~~~
"can i rec a comment is that possible I wood without a dout yes i will TIT"S with very big nipple's thx chris!!!"
-the one, the only, WZB

by chrislucas on Nov 12, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ronnie likes to do a jig in the backfield

Seriously the last 2 weeks in the Wildcat the hole is there for a second and Ronnie doesnt hit it… We dont have the line like Minn. where the holes get and stay open. This is why Ricky has looked better. he is just hitting the holes like he did when he got 1900 yds. rushing

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Nov 13, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that is partially because he is getting the ball in open space more often than Ronnie

He gets it in the end arounds, the option, and they use him more in the screen game. That is going to translate into more dynamic. I don’t like how the Dolphins have been using ronnie one bit in the last 3-4 games.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Nov 13, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

think like a GM

not a fan and you’ll notice that it isnt far-fetched to atleast think about it

by daphinatic on Nov 12, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a bit exaggerated don't you think?

We have a ridiculous OL, a young up-and-coming QB, 2 future lockdown corners, one of the deeeepest DL’s in the league, and a dynamic pass-rusher waiting in the wings. We have lots of young talent on the team, and trading a guy like Ronnie would allow us to add much more talent. I find it a little ridiculous that you say Ronnie is the only player worth a damn..

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

well

i do like our corners (Smith & Davis) and our OL but the rest of our Defense is either Old or just bad. We have so many positions that we need to turn our attention to; LB, Safety, is Henne the answer? i see where your coming from but Ronnie Brown has a true desire to win and I don’t think you can say that most of our D has the same fire and its sad. if he wants more than 3-4 yrs then your right but I don’t see a reason we shouldn’t let him play as a dolphin for 3 years because I really don’t see a better option in the NFL behind AP. we never get 1 stop when we need it, never. Teams that have the right mix of players don’t let that happen. This season has really gotten to me and Ronnie Brown has been the only person i feel even deserves to be considered in the future. Ted Ginn is so bad btw. just throwing that in there.

by DRoyce on Nov 12, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The DL is one of the deepest and most talented in the league.

and outside of Fergy, they are all young. Soliai, Merling, Langford, Starks.. talent.

There are better options besides just Peterson. And I don’t think this is about getting somebody clearly better than Ronnie, but more about having a great running game AND up the talent level of the rest of them by using Ronnie to garner multiple draft picks. If he plays for us for another 3 years, he’s used up right smack in the middle of this team’s “prime” so to speak, and you have to find a replacement without getting anything in return for him. I think we end up in the same situation as we’re in with Porter. He’s all used up, and now he’s pretty worthless to us because we can’t deal him for anything.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

well yeah

how else would you obtain picks from the other teams??

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Nov 13, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

It's an idea that isn't too popular among Dolphins fans

but I think it’s an idea that should be explored. Let’s talk hypotheticals here.

First things first, like Mau mentioned, RB’s always seem to hit a wall at the age of 30, and Ronnie is fast approaching that. Everyone around the league knows this, so if we re-sign him, the next move is to cut him or let his contract come up. We would get about 3 more years of Ronnie, then get nothing in return to try and replace him. Or, we could try to deal him now, while his value is at it’s highest, and be able to replace him AND fortify another position on the team. And, let’s face facts for a second here, there is at least 10 RB’s in the league as good or better than Ronnie, and they aren’t hard to find. Not to mention the fact that most RB’s are a little cheaper than Ronnie, who is making 2nd overall pick money.

We all know that the running game is more about how good the OL is than how good the RB is. I believe we have the makings of a VERY good run-blocking OL, meaning an above-average back will look like a superstar.

So, hypothetically speaking, say we can get a 1 and a 3 (probably a bit too hopeful, but we’ll stick with that deal for the time being. We can debate what he’ll be able to draw in a trade later). That would give us two 1’s (probably both between 11-22) to play with, and 5 in the first 3 rounds. Damian Williams (best WR in the draft) and CJ Spiller (most explosive back in the draft) in the first round, and there’s the playmakers we want on O. Everybody was in love with Hilliard, so maybe he’s the Thunder to Spiller’s Lightning in the future. LB in the 2nd, and you have 2 3rd rounders to play with and get any combination of NT, OLB, another RB (bruiser this time), or a Nickel CB. Suddenly, we are loaded with high draft picks, and we can all be honest and say that Parcells/Ireland have been dynamite in the draft. So that’s 5 new playmakers, including 2 guys that suddenly make the offense extremely dangerous.

Basically, in this LCFF-length comment, I’m trying to say that maybe dealing RB isn’t such a terrible idea.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

thank you

for looking at this as a benefit to the team…

by daphinatic on Nov 12, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

we discussed it last offseason

along with a trade of Joey Porter (which probably would’ve been a good idea). When you are young and rebuilding, dealing away stars is a quick way to add talent at multiple positions.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

I wish we would’ve sold high on him in the offseason, let Wake start, and drafted another stud with whatever we got for Porter. KC or GB probably would’ve given up a 2 and more for him since both of them are trying to transition to a 3-4.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but no one knew how Wake, or Porter for that matter was gonna do this year

Hindsight is 20/20. Plus I don’t think the coaching still knows what they have in Wake, even though everyone else does.

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by Farorefox on Nov 12, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well we paid Wake like we knew what we were getting

and I think most people saw the last few games how Porter broke down and had nothing left, and saw the writing on the wall with him.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly wanted the Phins to trade Porter last year

He has been terrible in Miami except for last year. i dont know what happened to make him play like that but its gone now. I felt that he would never play at that level again and I was right. We should have dealt him when we had the chance. He’s 30 now and nobody will want to take his ridiculous contract off our hands.

This is just another obstacle Miami needs to overcome before we become relevant

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Nov 13, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

haha first, thanks for the shout out haha, and the wow, you nailed right on this time.

I hadn’t agree with you more in a quite a while.
Couple of quick hits:
- Very brave of you to come out and say “there are at least 10 rbs in the league as good or better than Ronnie”. I agree with that, while many people around here regarding him as the best back in the league or top 3. Im just not down with that. Not that he isn’t good, but there are lots of guys out there at the same level or pretty close.
- Yes, the OL is amazing and young, and it will make almost any decent RB look good.
- Like we discussed it a couple of months ago, on this new era, good running backs are a dime a dozen in the draft. With a 3rd rounder you can get a beast. This works specially because of the running back in committee thing.
- For a 1st and 3rd I’d absolutely go for it. It’s just too much for a rebuilding project to work with. We could end up being the team that traded Herschell Walker and then built a dynasty with those picks, not so dramatic, but the way this FO drafts, it could be close.

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 12, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

lol you and me are usually on opposite sides of an issue, but this one just makes a lot of sense to me to trade Ronnie and stock up on young studs. We’ve seen what the Trifecta was able to do with multiple picks in the first few rounds last year (find 2 lockdown CB’s). Imagine what they would do with 2 first rounders? I’m already salivating at the idea of getting Damian Williams and CJ Spiller. The big play would definitely be back in Miami, and Spiller could split carries with Ricky until we find a power back.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

no kidding

he’s a beast. We all want more speed and playmaking ability on offense, and he has both in excess.

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

lots of good rb's coming out in the draft

Spiller (best scatback in college and eventually the NFL)
Jahvid Best (burner but injury prone…)
Toby Gerhart (stud)
Joe McNight (top prospect out of HS but had to split 2 many carries to shine)
Charles Scott (LSU rb that doesnt get much pub but is incredible)
Johnathan Dwyer (Power Power Power)

There are alot of good backs coming out this year. We are in a position where we have Ricky next year so we could take a young rb and transition him into a starter

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Nov 13, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point, and until right now I hadn't thought about it like that, but

the situation we have at WR very well could mimic the one we had last year at the CB position. Which all of a sudden was taken care of in the draft and now is looking amazingly good. Not only starter material, but Pro Bowl potential from both on them, not to say they definitely brought back the big play ability to this team. I think the same could happen with the WR position as you mention.

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 12, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?????

are you insane the r&r express is about the only thing thats working for us, given the fact that ricky will be leaving us after next year , to get rid of ronnie now would be a bad move

by finslifer on Nov 12, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Ronnie is not a pure running back?

what are you even saying? why are you even worried about trading him, all those RB’s whose carrers declined at 30 were featured backs, Ronnie has split carries not only in the NFL but in college.. LT, Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson, Jamal Lewis.. All featured backs with the team on their shoulders. Ronnies touches are peanuts compared to the touches all those other backs had, hes way to important to just be traded.. listen to what your saying man.

by suspect on Nov 12, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

unless..

someones team has gone bonkers and offers a first this and next year and other picks theres no F’n way this will even come close to happening, only players that get those deals are featured backs, other teams know he cant handle the workload so why would they spend so many picks on a guy who cant do that?

by suspect on Nov 12, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

my point exactly, hes not a feature back

unless they do give us 2 first rounders there is no way we will do it, hence it wont happen way to be on the same page with me

by suspect on Nov 13, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

If you want to reply a comment then do so, right where it says so, "reply"

don’t come hide on the bottom of the thread were you will be ignored

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 12, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

usually its not a good idea

to trade the best player on your team. But what do i know.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Nov 12, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

herecy

Freakin instigator! You’re gonna get your soon enough my little friend.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Nov 12, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

you guys are meeting at the stadium? I was going with my dad too

but the airplane tickets from Mexico were ridiculously expensive , 1k a piece lol. Plus my dad would have probably freaked out if I told him we were meeting my internet friends hahah

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 12, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

damn that's sick

thousand bux for a plane ticket? hell it’s cheaper to drive at that point lol

by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 12, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

ur from mexico?

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by samdaman on Nov 12, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

lol exactly

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by samdaman on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's see what Ronnie wants to do and how he performs this season

if he doesn’t do better than last year trade him if he does then resign him it’s as simple as 123

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by DPL3 Rollin on Nov 12, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

HEEEEEEEEELLLLLLL NO

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by samdaman on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I got mixed opinions on this.

I Love Ronnie Brown, and it would def hurt 2 see him leave. But getting a 1st round and a few other picks would be what’s best for this orginization. I’ll be happy either way as long as we somehow get a impact receiver or two.

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by HawkFire89 on Nov 12, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

the organization

great to discuss theoretically, like invading iran — but not to do. what’s ‘best for the team’ is often just a coercive argument. maybe its best for the team not to trade. brown brings so many different dimensions that we can’t talk about him solely in terms of numbers. he defines the wildcat, he passes, good inside and outside. this week he’s showing up as no. 4 on some nfl power running charts. he’s got arguably 3/4 years. so yes, i’d want something blowout for him — 2 no. 1 picks. or a 1 and 2 same draft plus a first string player. if it is such a great running back draft, why would anyone do so?

by a1a on Nov 13, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

A vote for the Old Guy

I think it’s great to keep building for the future but there comes a point where we actually have to try and win.

Good teams don’t win by trading their best players away. Ronnie IS our offfense. At a very low mileage 27 yrs old, he has a few great years left. If we sign him to 5 yr deal and we get 3 good ones out of it, it’ll be a steal for us. And then there’s the fact (or at least my belief) that he is one of the top 5 running backs in the league. How will we win if we get rid of him?

I just hoipe that Dolphin fans don’t want our team to be the anti-Redskins….with the same results. Just like they win every yr in free agency, we can keep getting rid of our best players and win the team of the future title. It’s like getting older…..the future came and you somehow missed it.

by crossborderFISHingtrip on Nov 13, 2009 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

POLL

ADD

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND?

CAUSE YOUR ARE SOUNDING LIKE THAT WITHA POST LIE THIS that would be like dropping jeter or tom brady

YOU JUST DON"T DO SHIT LIKE THAT

by Acemmett on Nov 13, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

NO Way

Nope just look for a Ricky replacement

I miss Don Shula

by FinfanJC on Nov 13, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

No, no, no, never, no!

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle

by texascowpunk on Nov 18, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

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