Dolphins vs Jets: Three Key Matchups
by Matty I on Oct 8, 2009 12:15 AM EDT
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While it definitely feels good to finally get that first win of 2009 - and to do so by dominating a division rival - it's time to get back to business. On Monday night, the hated New York Jets come down to Miami to face the Dolphins in what should be a physical and emotionally charged football game. So let's talk about three critical matchups for this game.
(And do remember, if you're going to the game on Monday, to wear your orange - at the request of the Dolphins, who hope to have an "orangeout" at Land Shark Stadium.)
Dolphins offensive line vs Jets pass rush
Truth be told, this will probably be the most critical of all the matchups on Monday night. It's no secret that the Jets love to blitz and blitz and blitz - bringing seven or eight guys at one time every once in a while. And while the Jets only have four sacks on the season, their pass rush has been simply ridiculous through these four games. That's because even when they don't get to the quarterback in time, the pass rush still did it's job.
Through four games, the Jets have 21 "official" quarterback hits - which is a lot. And what happens is these opposing quarterbacks must get rid of the ball before they want to. So while the Jets only have four sacks, their 21 quarterback hits and the QB rating of their opposing quartebacks (56.4) is proof that the rush is doing what it's suppose to do - make the QB uncomfortable and ineffective. The Jets are allowing just 5 yards per pass attempt (2nd in the NFL) and allowing a league low 51% completion percentage.
The Dolphins, meanwhile, have had trouble protecting their quarterback this season. This unit has allowed 13 sacks through 4 games (3rd most in the league) - including surrendering 6 sacks to a Buffalo Bills' pass rush that is average at best. Sure - some of those sacks were due to the inexperienced Chad Henne holding the ball too long. But even still, that figure is way too high.
A big concern I have is that it seemed like the Dolphins had some communication issues in picking up the blitz last week. And the Jets, as I said, love to blitz and will blitz in some way on probably 70% of their defensive plays (and that's a conservative estimate). They also get their best pass-rusher, Calvin Pace, back after he served a four game suspension to start the year - making the Jets pass rush even more dangerous.
One thing to watch on Monday is how the Dolphins adjust to the Jets when they use their over-load blitz packages - where they blitz up to four or five players on one side of the offensive line. If Miami's communication up front doesn't get drastically better in a hurry, Chad Henne could be in for a long night.
Braylon Edwards/Jerricho Cotchery vs Will Allen/Sean Smith/Vontae Davis
Yes I know - Braylon Edwards just got to New York. How fast can he get involved between now and Monday night? Realistically - very fast. The system he was playing in this year under Eric Mangini in Cleveland is very similar to the Jets' system. And it's crazy to think that Rex Ryan and company wouldn't find ways to simplify things for Braylon just to get him on the field as quickly as possible. Ryan already said that Edwards will start on Monday night. I'm not a believer that receivers need time to "learn the system." They are naturally gifted athletes who have to run and catch. That's not difficult, folks.
Edwards is also a Dolphins' killer. In two games with the Browns, Braylon has 11 catches for 157 yards and 3 touchdowns. And he will pose matchup problems for the Dolphins. So far in 2009, the Dolphins are keeping Sean Smith and Will Allen on their own sides. While Smith is actually taller than Edwards, Allen gives up 5 inches to the 6'3 Edwards. Look for the Jets to create the mismatch of Will Allen against Edwards.
On the other side of Edwards is Jerricho Cotchery, who has developed a good rapport with his young quarterback. Cotchery has 23 catches for 356 yards (5th in the NFL) in 2009. With Edwards now in town, Cotchery could be even more dangerous. Defenses will no longer be able to shade their defense towards Cotchery - who was, up until Wednesday, the only real dangerous receiver the Jets had. It'll be interesting to see how the Dolphins decide to use their three cornerbacks to defend the suddenly dangerous Jets receiving core.
Jets' return team vs Dolphins' coverage team
For years, the Jets have been one of the best in the league at returning kicks and punts. In fact, since 2001, the Jets are tops in the league in kick returns for touchdowns with 11.
This year, the Jets are as dangerous as ever on special teams. Their 24.4 yards per kick return average is 8th best in the league and is headed by the insanely talented Leon Washington - who is a threat to score whenever he touches the football. The Jets are also ranked 6th in the league in punt returning, averaging 13.8 yards per return.
Meanwhile, kick and punt coverage has been a problem for what seems like forever with the Dolphins. But the Dolphins have gotten better in 2009. They are only allowing 19.6 yards per kick return - thanks in large part to Lex Hilliard. But their punt coverage is still an issue. The Dolphins are allowing 10.5 yards per return, which is among the worst figures in the league.
Field position could certainly become a key factor in what promises to be a physical battle on Monday night. The Dolphins can't allow any special teams "hiccups" if they want to pick up their second win of 2009.
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and yet again the O-Line tops the headlines
by jazztrumpeter89 on Oct 8, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it should just be a given each and every week
that our O-Line needs to step up
by jazztrumpeter89 on Oct 8, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just say
I hope I get to write issue 2 of the Wildcat Weekly!!!!
Let’s cross our fingers for a win!!!
Laces out!
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by BSerious72 on Oct 8, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im nervous
this game is huge for us. im thinking its a must win. yeah, yeah it is.
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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by MrMedic on Oct 8, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am now too after reading Mattys post!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is absolutly a must win
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by samdaman on Oct 8, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seeing what Mark Sanchez can do and can't do when the D-Line is all
over his face I’d say that is the most key matchup. If our pass rush is effective we can force a bunch of turnovers and make Sanchez look like a bust, if it isn’t then he will probably find a way to very effective, especially on 3rd down situations and the occasional deep throw just as he was during the first three weeks of the season. When he has time the guy can definitely play and our Pass defense is still extremely suspect, specially against athletic tight ends as Dustin Keller.
by MauMontaV5 on Oct 8, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well said
we should be able to run the ball, since we do it against everyone, so offensively, we won’t suck. We need to keep them on their heels and get to Sanchez quite a bit. The same thing we’re worried about happening to Henne (getting rattled by the pressure and making mistakes) can easily happen to Sanchez if we rush him and hit him and give him different looks.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 8, 2009 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been very impressed with our running game obviously
but you do have to remember that we faced some pretty bad run defenses, none ranked higher than 16th…But with that said, the Jets run D isn’t ultra-impressive(14th in league), they are mainly just good at putting a lot of pressure on the opposing QB…I think we’ll be able to run the ball effectively..i Just don’t know if it will be a field day again for the R&R. I still say we put up at least 120 though
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also would like to see them exploit all the blitzing with some screen passes to
Bess, Rickey and Ronnie. I think if we can get the screen going we can blow them up!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, agreed
they have a very aggressive defense so I think if we play smart offensively, then we can do some good things
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to have them bite on a hard screen pass to one of the R &R’s and then have a wide open WR downfield for Henne to hopefully have enough time to get the ball off to one of them aka Hartline
by PhinsFan69 on Oct 8, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AGREED!
i just got around to reading this, but my first thought about the Jests pass rush was “screens”.
let ‘em bring everybody and hit the R&R out of the backfield a few times, or Fasano off the edge… they will slow down. and if they don’t, keep doing it.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we also might be able to get them on some draws, if our interior is playing well.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if you can get a few screens out to Brown he can break one or two.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What we really need
is for the Defense to stop pussy footing around, and not only produce some TOs but possibly some pick 6’s. They need to step up and find a way to pressure Sanchez. Their OLine is in much better shape than Buffalo’s, but we need to find a way to continue that pressure.
There was a time that we all can remember, when the Miami Defense won games for us, and if it wasn’t winning the game for us, it damn well put us in a position where it was hard to lose. Our Run defense is there now… we need the backside of our squad to get to that level, or at least alot closer than it is currently.
I won’t lie, the Jersey bastards defense is a major concern, and I’m not so certain that we’re going to be able to just implement the run like we’ve been against the other teams we’ve played against. I unfortunately see a lot of runs for negative yards this game. Henne and I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but GINN, need to produce in a big way. I don’t care if they only produce 5-7 yard gains….just do it consistently…. We’re going to see a lot of 2nd and longs, 3rd and longs….and we can’t win games being in that situation.
Its time for a Wildcat Pass…. Its time for some counters, half back passes out of the regular offense… do something to slow that defense down.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 8, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one..
on this, but would anyone else like to see Ginn get traded for a future pick? I mean, if anyone is dumb enough to give up a 3rd rounder for him (get the Redskins on the phone!!!). I want to see what we have in Patrick Turner, and to get him on the field means that one has to leave. The huge negative would be that there wouldnt be anyone on the team that can run like Ginn, but I honestly think that Hartline could take on that role….Hartline isnt the fastest, but the guy gets good separation. That and Ginn has a huge contract being the #9 overall pick, you could litterally spend that money and a pick to try and get Boldin if we didnt think our current WR’s have what it takes. I want to see more of Hartline too….so to me, Ginn just has to go.
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by Dragon27az on Oct 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First,
nobody is going to trade anything decent for Ginn, if anything at all, because of his contract.
Second, we need his speed to help pull safeties away from the short passes/run game.
Third, Henne and Ginn had one week to work together before The Bills game. If Ginn doesn’t produce by the second half of the season, I’m ready to call him a bust, but give him and Henne some time to adjust. We didn’t exactly tear it up passing last week because we didn’t need to. The only Passing TD went to Hartline who had less than 20 yards and only 2 catches on the day. If that were Ginn’s 17 yards and a TD, he’d still be getting blasted for his lack of production.
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by joel311 on Oct 8, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn's lack of production....
How many catches has he had this year? 4 Games, and he’s only been a factor in 1 of them…. the rest he’s just disappeared.
We don’t need his speed to pull away the safeties, they aren’t playing him deep anyway…..defenses play us to stop the run. They don’t play to stop Ginn’s speed, and they aren’t going to start unless he routinely starts putting up 7-8 catches for 100 yards, which IS NOT going to happen.
His speed isn’t doing anything to help our run game…. and it hasn’t at all in the 3 years we’ve had him. Fans know this guy is a non-factor, you think opposing DCs don’t realize that as well?
Hartline gets separation because he runs clean routes, and gets out of his cut faster than Ginn…..Ginn has straight line speed, but thats it, and thats not enough to be a quality guy or to have people game plan against him.
There isn’t a Defensive Coordinator in the league that has EVER said…“This Ginn Character worries me, we need to make sure we double him up and play deep, because I’m concerned he’ll cost us the game”…. Never…..been…..said. However, they do play us shallow to stop the run, EVERY single game.
And despite this, Ginn can’t produce…. he’s got the perfect scenario. Defenses game planning away from him, and yet he still disappears.
He’s a bust…..and not the kind thats in Canton….more of the kind thats in Hooters.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 8, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think it's too early.
I’m giving him until the 8th week to get a rhythm with Henne and put up some serious numbers. You know why Hartline and Henne had a connection against The Bills? Because they were both on 2nd team together. Ginn has not had close to the number of reps with Henne that Hartline has… it was one week before The Bills game. I understand the irritation with him, but it’s still just too soon.
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by joel311 on Oct 9, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats one interesting theory about the Henne - Hartline
connection, hadn’t looked at it that way, good point.
by MauMontaV5 on Oct 9, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your logic, and reasoning.
But if Ginn couldn’t get a rhythm with Pennington over the course of a year for even 20-30 yard pass plays which CP10 could throw with ease, what makes you think it’ll be different with Henne?
You don’t need to answer that question, just let it linger, and we’ll see around week 8 how you feel.
Always a spirited debate :)
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by Fr8Train on Oct 9, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All we can do at this point is hope that he does get better.
It looks like we are stuck with him for at least the rest of this year.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't argue that......
I’d piss on a spark plug if I thought it would help.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 9, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont do that. That will definatly hurt like hell.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i also don't think anyone will give up an decent draft pick for Ginn
right now, he is only good for two things. one, if the Fins can slow the pass rush long enough for the deep ball, Ginn on a 9 route is still a threat the D has to cover.
two, end arounds seem to work pretty well once a game, and they also make the D stop and think a bit.
so for two or three plays a game, Ginn still has some value.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You speak the truth
that O-Line is going to be tested for sure. I expect probably 4 or 5 sacks in this game, maybe a pick as well due to the Jets blitzing and what not. And now that they got Edwards, all we can hope for is that he doesn’t become the 2nd coming of Randy Moss (he very well could be). I believe our chances are not that good this week, but you never know. that and they still have a rookie QB after all; if the Saints ca pick him apart so can we.
by ROCFinsfan on Oct 8, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to send VD on a corner blitz.
It would be rude to not introduce our first round pick to their first round pick.
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by kmb8488 on Oct 8, 2009 1:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL Great idea! Call that one in to Sparano!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kick his butt
unleash wake on him
Can't wait untill Sean Smith puts Randy Moss on his ass lol, Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club.
by jojo phin fan on Oct 8, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EARTHWAAAAAAAAKE!
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by samdaman on Oct 8, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no dude, it's
EarthQ-WAKE!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol ok
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by samdaman on Oct 10, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or EARTHQ-WAAAAAAKE
if you prefer. =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 10, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like that we leave Smith and Allen on their own sides.
I understand that it’s a comfort thing, they may feel better on one side of the field or whatever, but that allows the offense to dictate the matchups. They can get whichever WR they want matched up with either CB, and they can create the mismatches. If we have Smith matched up on a player instead of a side, we get to dictate the matchups. I think Smith on Edwards, and Allen on Cotchery would be better for us, and then we just have to worry about Keller. And Leon Washington. Damn him I hope he doesn’t touch the ball once.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 8, 2009 2:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look for Braylon Edwards to line up over Allen all game long
That is a match-up that favors the Jets. They are dictating to the Phins. It should be the other way around.
Get your best CB on their best WR and cover him all over the field. That is how good defenses play their secondary.
by ct1361 on Oct 8, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allen may be small, but he's still a damn good corner
I wouldn’t be surprised if they matched Edwards up with Smith, merely because he’s so much more inexperienced.
by Farorefox on Oct 8, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith has been stellar
this season. QBs tend to throw towards Allen more than Smith.
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by joel311 on Oct 8, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Now I think everyone understands why Matty and I had giant woody’s when we wanted the finz to draft Smith. The steal of the draft, no doubt. Oh, and that catch that TO had last week on him….I was Tivo’ing the game so I put it in super slow-motion, and TO totally shoved off (and was quite good at disguising it too). Does anyone know if you can buy a Sean Smith jersey online anywhere yet?
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by Dragon27az on Oct 8, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides last game...
W. Allen has been terrible! Giving up yards everywhere!
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by GEtSICK13 on Oct 8, 2009 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, agreed
it seems like common sense that you match up the big guy with the other big guy..Maybe they were just keeping Smith to one side because he’s a rookie and they were just trying to get him adjusted..now that he and VD have been through 4 games maybe they’ll move them around on Edwards, its a huge mismatch….although W.Allen played T.O pretty well
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I used to play corner and safety back in the day. I can tell you that playing the right side is way different than that of the left due to obvious reasons, like directional cuts, ins/outs, etc etc etc. I think they want him to develop great technique on one side to make the transition the other that much easier. Just my thoughts.
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by Dragon27az on Oct 8, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah thats pretty much what I was saying
when I said getting him adjusted. Agreed
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if we can disguise the wildcat till they show blitz?
When they stack one side just runRrun around them.
And I’m going to miss the WHOLE game flying to thew left coast!
I’ll be in orange, though.
First
by Tunaflipper on Oct 8, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can't disguise the wildcat,
that would mean a QB in the backfield which negates the advantage of an extra blocker. Besides, The Jets will show blitz on 75% of their packages.
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by joel311 on Oct 8, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG HOW CAN U MISS THIS GAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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by samdaman on Oct 8, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Operation S.E.A.M.
Hey Matty !!
Last season you started an operation December 4 (something like that) where we had to win out to take the Division. Since we lost our first 3 games it seems to me that we have to Sweep our Division Rivals which would lead us to the promised land once again !!
I am proposing an Operation S.E.A.M. which stands for “Sweep Em All Miami” and it has to start on Monday Night !! We have to do whatever it takes to Sweep these Fhwaulkers or no Playoffs, no Division Title !!
GO DOLPHINS !! RUN WILD FINS RUN !! and, REX RYAN CAN SUCK MAH ORANGE BALLS !!
Lets Kick Butt Dolphins!!
by BurlyDude72 on Oct 8, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
opreration seam doesnt sound right
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by samdaman on Oct 8, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Operation Squeam
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by TheTealDeal on Oct 10, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about a SEAMless transition from last year to this year?
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by kdock on Oct 8, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a way the Phins OL pass protection is irrelevant
Good defenses are going to hit the QB no matter how good you are on the OL. These defenses do that with a combination of very good players and good schemes that confuse the OL. On Monday night, the Jets will do the same to the Phins. They are going to hit Henne often.
That being said, IMO, it is on Henne not to shit himself when pressure comes because it is going to come all night. It is on Henne to stay in the pocket, take a hit, and deliver the ball. It is on Henne to make plays and keep drives going, converting on 3rd down.
The key to this game, IMO, is Davonne Bess. He is the only WR that can get open quickly. He will be operating in the slot and should be a quick outlet when the Jets blitz. If the phins are successful on offense, Bess will have a big game. If he can make the first tackler miss and get additional yards after the catch, the Phins could be in for a big night.
by ct1361 on Oct 8, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some early screens, wide receiver screens etc would help a bunch.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 8, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matty...
I have question…
If we went 6-10, the six wins being from division foes only, would we win the division?
I’ve been wondering.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Oct 8, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not unless
the other teams are all 6-10 or worse in our division…You still have to have the best record, the tie-breaker is who has won the most division games
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright. Thanks for explaining it.
it think it is stupid that way but I don’t make the rules.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Oct 8, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i should make the rules
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by samdaman on Oct 8, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm, you really think so??
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
no more unnessicery roughness
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by samdaman on Oct 8, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of that does anyone besides me notice
that our RB’s are constantly being tackled out of bounds and sometimes way out of bound with out any flags being thrown? If you even breathe on Brady 3 guys throw a flag.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that because he's popular
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by kewlguy on Oct 11, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its total BS!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 11, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and more excessive celebration dances
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by TheTealDeal on Oct 10, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah which by my calculations
is effing impossible
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by BSerious72 on Oct 8, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burn
Dolphins will win if they are firing on all cylinders. Anymore stupid blunders and the Jets ’ll have it.
by Farorefox on Oct 8, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
????
what about the wildcat vs jets rushing defense?
by SolomonJ on Oct 8, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
see the games against the Ravens last year...
Rex Ryan has squashed our run game for the most part….. granted its a new team, and not the Ravens, but he’s got his guys playing the same type of defense.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 8, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that had more to do with the Ravens than Rex
look who is the #1 ranked rush D in the league, still the Ravens without Rex…The Jets are 14th….Plus last year we weren’t running as effectively… I say we put up at least 120….But not 250 like in Buffalo
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the reason they were able to stuff the run is because we had no passing threat.
and CP was useless at WR. not even a threat. Ryan basically had an extra man on Defense.
it may be the same this year, but we have some possibilities…
Thigpen can go in for WC plays, and run either WR out or reverse. if he gets the ball in his hands behind the LoS, he is a legitimate passing threat. He is also a legitimate receiving threat, if someone can get him the ball.
Also, this year when we line up for a power WC run, we don’t need to stick a QB in there at all. We can put in an extra blocker and still run it as a HB option if they don’t cover the wideout.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Statistically, the Jets defense isn’t “that” good against the rush. The ravens had more talent, and that, along with the interceptions, is why Baltimore shut down the wildcat. In all reality, our run game will probably win this for us. Its not like sanchez and the Jets can move down the field at will like the Colts.
by Farorefox on Oct 8, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For God’s sake if I see Pat white in there on another Wildcat play im gonna be pissed.. Waste of a pick, SO not ready to be in there to throw, certainly not worth handing the ball off to someone, might as well just be Henne or Brown himself…
by PhinsFan69 on Oct 8, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look you idiot
I don’t see a nfl championship banner anywhere in the chad era and in the Henne era oh wait white was the only player in division 1 to win 4 bowl games. But compaired to a second string back up like henne I guess hennes god to all you miami fans.
by Pat white fan on Oct 9, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody simmer down now!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pat White played in a crappy conference....
and played in like the Bob’s Auto Parts Bowl… so give me a freaking break.
I don’t recall Pat White playing for any National Championships……
I don’t care if he won 4 cereal bowls…. he’s not a starter.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 10, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
well said.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 11, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must say...
I feel really good about our chances :)
by Farorefox on Oct 8, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blarg
Bring Marino back from retirement!!!
by Farorefox on Oct 8, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think our pass rush will be the key to this game
Langford and the rest of the D-line will shut down the running game so its up to our secondary and pass rushers to rattle Sanchez…If we give him time, he’ll probably make plays but since he’s a rookie, if we get a lot of pressure, he’ll make rookie mistakes, like last week.
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe since it's Monday night
against the hated division rival, they’ll unveil the Pat White experiment..
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God lets hope not.....
everytime pat white comes in its an immediate drive killer. why are we so afraid of even 1 attempt at throwing the ball out of the wildcat??
by CaliPhinsFan on Oct 8, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe hes not shown enough in practice as far as throwing it down the field
for the coaches to trust him in the game.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not jnust the system Matty
He has to develop chemistry with Edwards can he really do that in a matter of days?
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by Patssuck456 on Oct 8, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly.
Edwards is not my biggest concern, really. He is not suppose to have a stellar performance…right? Unless he and Sanchez decide to establish an instant rapport.
In a nut shell: Edwards should be watched closely, but I don’t expect him to have an amazing game. It’s his first game as a J** and his practice time was certainly far from desirable. IMO Cotchery is a more concrete threat to our secondary.
The blitzes do worry me, though. O-Line still hasn’t stepped up —but we’re improving.
Winning this game would be AWESOME.
by Rennie85 on Oct 8, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for the blitz's
I would bet that we’ll probably see some more sets where we have R&R or the TEs doing some blocking for us. That will at least help to pick up stuff that gets by the line.
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by Chupathingy on Oct 8, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
utilizing some screens could work to our advantage
a few decent or big gains could keep them honest
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by Patssuck456 on Oct 8, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys
I read online, that Rex Ryan said he is more worried about containing the run then anything else. And said they will protect the run and will not blizt as much and make Henne beat them throught he air.
I think this actually makes sense to me, but idk maybe Ryan is just BSing us, what do you think.
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Oct 8, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he's a LIAR!!!
LIAR LIAR pants on fire…
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by Fr8Train on Oct 8, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol yea i agree with the train
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by samdaman on Oct 8, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Add Dolphins OL vs Jets run defense (and vice versa)
as key matchups too since both teams are surely going to try and run it all night.
by Natalya on Oct 8, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matty
I know we are really beating a dead-horse with this one, but I think one of the key match-ups should have been Bell/Wilson vs Keller. Keller, as much as I hate to say anything nice about a Jet, is a stud. Braylon has butter fingers and is very inconsistent…ala Ginn (except for that one huge year he had). Braylon is good about catching it in the endzone though…but the safety’s would also be playing the over route, meaning that they would factor into that situation also. In the end, I just think that Keller will have a bigger impact as he will be Sanchez major 3rd down target rather than Braylon. Either way, I hope the finz smash the crapola outta the stupid planes!!!
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by Dragon27az on Oct 8, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Chad Henne holding the ball too long."
Not exactly as I saw it, or the coaches either.
Sparano in his press conference said it wasn’t “protection issues” as much as single guys losing their battles as individuals. Three were crediting to the line and three were credited to the backs and ends.
Including that horrendous swing and a miss by Ronnie Brown.
Of the lineman, I think Carey had two wiffs and Thomas had one.
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by The Phinisher on Oct 8, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually I'm pretty sure
in his press conference he said one sack was where Henne held the ball too long and the rest was what you said
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the deal.
Henne > Cp
Cp beat the Jets
Henne will beat the Jets
Case…CLOSED
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by finsxfactor on Oct 8, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not now mauglo
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by finsxfactor on Oct 8, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turnovers
whomever wins the turnover battle will win this game! If it is even, then the Dolphins will take it.
When the Tuna was with NYJ he would run a TE out wide to create a huge mismatch on our corners, since Surtain and Madison always played their side of the field. I thnk the coaching staff is well aware of possible mismatches and wont let us get beat that way.
by tdecker on Oct 8, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Screen passes
The fastest way to slow down the pass rush. Imagine if they overload one side and we dump a screen to Ronnie…..He will still be running Tuesday morning.
by tdecker on Oct 8, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
Lots of screens to Ricky and Ronnie!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I agree with you guys. I think that if yall can get some screen passes going early… our defense might bite hard…… once. Honestly guys, I don’t think the Dolphins stand a chance… at least not the offense. We’ve got a shaky offense right now, but Sanchez should bounce back easily from his setbacks last week.
Good luck guys.
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by Champion Kingz on Oct 8, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we'll be able
to run the ball effectively
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jets fans are delusional.
I’m not saying we are a guaranteed win, but the best aspect of our offense is our run (1st in the NFL much?) and rush D is the weakest part of your defense. If you honestly think you will stop our offense like you did New Orleans, you are sadly mistaken. I wish I could witness the looks of panic on Jets fans faces when they realize they just lost two straight.
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by joel311 on Oct 9, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez should bounce back easily from his setbacks
why? What evidence do you have of that? Because he’s on your team? lol he’s gonna be under more pressure this week, and he won’t have any semblance of a run game to bail him out. Meanwhile, we’ll be marching down your throats behind the R&R Express, forcing Sanchez to do a whole lot of scoring on few possessions. Peyton Manning, he ain’t.
LOL, and I love that the Jets fans actually enjoy calling their team Gang Green, like it’s NOT some kind of disgusting disease that makes toes fall off. Stupid Jets fan…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 9, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Yeah, I don’t understand the whole gang green thing. It sounds like an insult that was embraced by Jets fans because they were too stupid to realize they were being insulted in the first place.
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by joel311 on Oct 9, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gang green has got to be the worst nick name every.
What do you expect from Jets fans?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just call them Gonorrhea?
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by Fr8Train on Oct 9, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am trying to come up with something
thats more accurate. Maybe something with the term “douche bag” in the title.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, i have a friend named connor, and i call him connoreha
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by samdaman on Oct 9, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, how very kind of you!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should check out this thread over at GGN.
It was supposed to be the usual Q&A thread between the teams, but it turned into a huge delusional debacle. Quite funny.
My favorite part was how they seem so sure that they are going to be able to run the ball on us because, and I quote, “Also, the teams you faced all dont have great run games.” and “None of these running programs can compare to a good Jets O-line and a dynamic duo of Jones and Washington.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
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by Chupathingy on Oct 9, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are in for quite a surprise!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Damn Nicky! This is usually my job, but you go girl!
;-)
Seriously, well said!
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 of our 3 losses
were against the #1 and #2 ranked passing attacks in the league…I think we’ll be able to beat teams this year whos offense is mainly based on running the ball.
by Ham420 on Oct 8, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Henne vs the jets
I can’t wait until Your golden boy the self proclaimed god Henne chokes on espn And then I will blast all you henne lovers face it he’s second string at best I agree with other people they need to trade white and once they due watch out if his new team plays the phins.
by Pat white fan on Oct 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whos side are you on?
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never mind that...
i want to know who he is… i think it might actually be….
Pat White!
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Never thought of that!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure what it is...
but i’ve just got this funny feeling.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe it is just the slice of balogna in each one of my shoes
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 9, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odd to say the least!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 9, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to know what we could get for Pat White?
I’d trade him for a slightly used virgin and a Britney Spears CD at this point.
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
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by Fr8Train on Oct 10, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like your sig, except for the GD part
maybe you could make it, like, “shut the hell up” or something.
;-)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 10, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're killing me....
You’re absolutely killing me.
I changed it to avoid a Holy War….but just know you’re killing me :)
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
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by Fr8Train on Oct 10, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by texascowpunk on Oct 10, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't want him to come knock on my door
with pamphlets or something….. hehe
j/k LCFF…….kinda. lol
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
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by Fr8Train on Oct 10, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Maybe you could use some church!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 10, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, had sex in a church once....wasn't all that good.
and yes, I know I have an express elevator to hell with my name on it.
I used to hold FCA meetings at my house in High School cuz the girls are hot…. I used to attend the youth groups of 3 different denominations of church’s for the same reason….. I once let a Mormon chick into my house so she could “pray with me”, just so I could get her number….
and I’ve been an atheist since I was 16…
If there is a hell, I’m hoping that everyone is right that God is “forgiving”…. ..Hell one of my best friends is a pastor :) lol
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"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"
If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick
by Fr8Train on Oct 10, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Yeah you might have some issues to atone for at some point. Im not one to judge others (unless your a jets fan) so good luck with all that!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 10, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least I know what I am right? lol
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick
by Fr8Train on Oct 11, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do any of us really know if we are right?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 11, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if C-A-T really spells dog?
Now thats deep.
Leader of the - Settle down Junior!, Henne is the Starter Movement
"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"
If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick
by Fr8Train on Oct 11, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sir I think perhaps you should attempt to
redefine what it is that you find “deep”! Really, it will give your whole life so much more meaning!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 11, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May the Schwartz be with you
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by TheTealDeal on Oct 10, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we would annouce Jihad
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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by TheTealDeal on Oct 10, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cut this guy off!
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by buckeyebill on Oct 9, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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