We do not like each other. With Florida State, I hated him. I hate him now. If I see him out, I'm not going to talk to him. I'm not going to slap him, but I'm not going to be pleasant.
Every time he sees me, he starts cussing. I see him and I start cussing. It's going to be like that the whole game.
-LB Channing Crowder, talking about Jets RB Leon Washington.
I, for one, am tired of Channing's mouth. If he was producing and playing well, I'd feel differently. But until he makes some plays out there, enough is enough.
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Well Said Matty!
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no way, channings mouth is the only productive part of him
let him fight washington, break his ankles
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Come on matty...
Give him a break! He is just trying to get everyone fired up for Monday Nights… VS the NYJ… with ORANGE… he is making this alot more fun!
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I think we are giving Channing too hard of a time Matty
Though he hasn’t made many “huge” plays, he’s done all the little things right. In the run support he has filled his gaps. He’s been good in pass coverage when it isn’t against tightends. His zone drops have been solid and he has a very quick first step after the release.
In terms of blitzs, he hasn’t been very effective in terms of sacks but neither was zack. I have seen numerous times when he has pressured the QB. One time during the falcons game he RAILED Matt Ryan just as he released it. Though the pass was a TD, Ryan certainly felt the hurt.
So even though he hasnt been a play maker yet, all the little things that he is doing right is certainly being seen in terms of our run defense. A lot of credit, of course, must go to the D-Line but I think Channing has been solid.
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this is well said
so the guy doesn’t make big plays. He’s a run stopper, and he does that well. He can’t cover, we know that, he knows that, I’m sure the coaches know that, yet they still ask him to cover people. That’s like asking a dog to fly. Everybody involved knows that the dog can’t fly, so why ask him to fly?
His blitzing has been better this year, but the pressure isn’t supposed to come from Channing, it’s supposed to come from our HOF Pass Rushing OLB’s, Porter and Taylor.
I do think Crowder takes too much blame for things we shouldn’t expect him to be able to do, since he’s never claimed to be good at them, or ever showed that he was. He’s good at playing the run.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 7, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, channings not horrible, he just doesnt play up to his standards
well, actualy, thats pretty bad
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So your saying Crowder isn't talented and shouldn't be blamed for it???
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Oct 7, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
well said
i too am tired of his motor mouth
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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im not, i love it!
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that could be it
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I feel the same way Matty!
I just want one big play out of Crowder. Just one. Force a fumble, get a sack, intercept a pass. Make a game changing play and then talk all you want. Until that time: SHUT THE HELL UP!
maybe this will get him fired up to actually do something
because right now id rather have leon on my team until #52 can show me something
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Well his mouth hasn't fired up his play EVER.. why would it start now
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by Souwantmyname on Oct 7, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Matty on this one.
Dont go running your mouth when you cant back it up on the field.
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Even if Gibril WIlson was talking trash I would back him not the Jets in any way whatsoever.
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by AussieKen on Oct 7, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ill always take his side just wish he wouldnt talk untill he starts backing it up.
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Way to be an example for the youth Channing, just get this over with and play.
These guys forget they are role models. Go to a high school varsity locker room and it is fool of these kind of idiots. Among other things, because this is what they get from the professionals they look up to.
King James said it best when talking about B Edwards yesterday : “We are role models on and off the field”
And thats from the second coming of Michael Jordan.
Amen
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LeBron James a role model... ha
his attitude after he lost to the Magic is all the evidence we need of his real character
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by Souwantmyname on Oct 7, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That was childish but hopefully he will learn from that.
He does for the most part seem like a pretty decent guy. Now days I am just glad if a star is not busted in some sort of gun crime or abusing woman or animals.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah thats what happens when you carry a city on your shoulders.
Under the pressure of the game and all the emotion it would take a robot to be perfect.
Sure, he tripped on that one, but when that’s all you can say about that sport’s biggest superstar then it a pretty weak argument against him. The guy has been a class act thus far specially off the field. The guy is married to his high school sweetheart for god sakes, and has two kids. Just look at other big shots from any major sport. Kobe? unfaithful, Plaxico Burres? Barry Bonds? Roger Clemens, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Brandon Marshall, Michael Irivin, and the list goes on and on. The bigger the spotlight the harder it is to be a good or normal citizen. Thus, a role model.
In today’s crazy celebrity world tell me to my face that LeBron James is a bad role model
I agree totally.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i disagree souwan
that was one moment in time for lebron. he has shown great character and sportmanship his whole career. one time, one minute of frustration led to him storming off the court that night. i cant hold that against him.
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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No doubt.
How many of us would want one stupid moment in our life (we all have had them) to be the basis for how we are precieved by others? If you go and kill someone thats one thing but one moment of frustration boils over and his stomping off is not a big deal when you look at the whole picture.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Translation....
“If I see him with a knee on the ground and 3 Phins on top of him….I will jump on the pile.”
I draw the line at FSU trash talk Channing….Channing was a part of some rare average UF teams….and SHOCKINGLY…he didnt stand out much then either.
CHANNING….SHUT…….UP……YOU……ARENT……THAT…..GOOD.
When your own fans are sick of your trash talking….you know its time to shut ur mouth and make a play.
We payed the man…..and he hasnt done squat. He hasnt sucked….but he has mastered the art of mediocre play.
Just wear your Orange jersey….and do something…..anything…at this point Id even take a late hit flag on Sanchez….just show me you know how to be the tackler….not the reinforcements on a tackle
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yea, i'll let him talk, he just needs to back it up
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How else will he get his tackles?
he has to jump on the pile or else he is out of a job
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by Souwantmyname on Oct 7, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see it as any big deal,.......at all.
He doesn’t like the guy,……..so what.
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by Ohiofinfan4life on Oct 7, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
He's just trying to promote the game Monday
I like the trash-talk. I think it will help to boost his productivity.
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Let him talk
because you know what? The rest of the team seems to back him up. He talks, they play balls out. Keep that mouth going Channing
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 7, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
My Thoughts
Let them fight it out in public. Maybe Monday before the game in front of a police station. Just an idea. A night in jail be a good thing for both of them.
He's not horrible
Its just everyone, including me, was expecting a pro-bowl yr out of him. He’s been ok and thats all. Hopefully this talk is good. People didn’t complain when a washed up Rasheed Wallace gave one of his patented “Guaransheed” victories
I think everyone just wants him to redirect his energy towards trying to play worth a shit!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
All I have to say is...
if Crowder is isolated on Leon Washington and he DOESN’T make the tackle, there will be alot of Miami fans in the stands cussing…
and taking his name in vain.
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If he's isolated on Leon Washington
he’s not making the tackle. Neither is 90% of the rest of the league though lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 7, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
haha exactly
if Crowder is isolated 1 0n 1 with Leon… I’m looking for a big play from our kick returners
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by Souwantmyname on Oct 7, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
really? kick return?
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I was confused by that comment too but I think hes trying to make two
comments in one. I think!?!
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Im with Matty here as well..
Well mostly. I dont mind the mouth, but please over preform so it seems like you can back it up.
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Channing is good for a quote
Which is what I like about him. He has a good sense of humor at times. It just wouldn’t hurt if maybe he can up with a play.
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my point exactly
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what did he say wrong here?
That he hates the Jets, good I would hope to fuck he does.
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not so lucky when you see Leon is a playmaker and Crowder isn't
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by Souwantmyname on Oct 7, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't Agree More, Matty
I am tired of listening to him too. Not only does he run his mouth, but his stupidity and ignorance spill out too. He proves he is not the brightest lightbulb, and makes this team look stupid too.
Oh, and those who say he is trying to get people fired up – He is one highly paid cheerleader, and I am. Not sure if he fires the crowd up as much as he does the other team. The trifecta need to disallow him from speaking out like he does
by KnoxVegas on Oct 7, 2009 11:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
why would they disallow him from speaking?
He’s funny, and he fires his teammates up. He takes a lot of pressure off of guys in the locker room too, because he’s loud and he talks shit, so all the media cares about is “what’s Crowder gonna say next?” instead of “let’s go bug Henne about that pick 6.”
I haven’t heard anybody associated with the Dolphins express displeasure with him talking, so I don’t get the big deal
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 8, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
He's not funny, just stupid
There have been several times where he is just talking stupid. Just about everything he said about the game in England a couple of years ago was dumb. Also, it makes him and the team look bad when he runs his mouth and then doesn’t back it up – this happens a lot.
I am not sure he even fires up his teammates. I think things like this where he is trashing another player is just ignorant. Why does he need to run his mouth.
Crowder is an average player – at best, and he constantly runs his mouth, and I think a lot of people are getting over his antics, and just want him to shut up and play.
by KnoxVegas on Oct 8, 2009 9:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your opinion
I think he’s funny.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 8, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
he's fuggin hillarious!
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Parcells hates his players to talk to anyone let alone talk shit about the opponent.
If he could get away with it with the league he would not allow any players or coaches to talk to the media at anytime.
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Crowder, SHUT UP!
your a sad excuse for the understudy of Zach Thomas, Please at least jump on the pile after someone else makes the tackle dont just stand there with your hands on your hips bro….
Channing hurt someone on that team get a fine something
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btw
those of you saying Crowder doesn’t do shit, he’s got 14 tackles on the year, 5th on the team. The top 3 are DB’s, since everybody loves passing on us. We’ve given up 2.9 per carry on the ground. Anyone who thinks that has nothing to do with Channing is crazy. Akin Ayodele, the other MLB, has 0 sacks. The only players on the team to force fumbles are Wake and Porter, both on sacks. So nobody on the team has forced a fumble from a RB or WR. Why this all falls on Channing, I don’t know.
Everybody wants him to be Zach Thomas, but we ran a 4-3 with Zach, a defense specifically designed to funnel everything to the MLB. Zach also happens to be one of the top 2 LB’s of this generation. It’s like trying to replace Marino out there. Our ILB’s and SS, the guys who should be leading your team in tackles in a 3-4 D, have combined for 58 tackles this year. Maybe Channing isn’t the best ILB, and he definitely could be upgraded (who on our team couldn’t?), but please don’t make him out to be the worst player on the team or somebody who actually hampers the team when he’s on the field. He’s good at what he’sasked to do, which is stop the run.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 8, 2009 2:30 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thank you Nicky for the facts.
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The fans are almost never going to be happy with the next guy because the bar is just set so damn high.
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imo
he lacks something, i never see a “fire under his ass” or any sense of urgancey while on the field. The whole world knows he isnt ZT but as his under study you think he would be more effective. No body can honestly sit here and say Crowder is a good MLB i would say average at best. Crowder isnt the reason our run D is so good its the line that does a great job.
he does do whats asked but he could do it better.
Anybody notice with the trifecta and the drafts.
1st year both lines were addressed and we have 2 on each side starting
2nd year DB / WR addressed we know how thats going
next year LINEBACKERS inside and out
The trifecta is watching the same games as us and crowder is a good #2mlb in the 3-4 but not a good #1
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I think he needs to kick some ass AND shut his mouth.
Actions speak much louder than words. Focus on hitting him on the field and not hitting him off of it through the media. Every second Channing runs his motor-mouth is one more second he’s not training to kill the Jets.
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At the end of the day
its only a game, let the kid have some fun. Like yall dont talk sh*t with your friends. What else is suppose to happen when you give a guy playing a game for a living a platform to speak his mind. He’s going to sound like YOU, playing spades,xbox or whatever it is you do.
Some of you guys crack me up.
“ZOMG HE WAS ZACHS UNDERSTUDY”.
What the hell does that matter? Atleast he has become a productive starter, unlike nearly every other LB we’ve had since we’ve drafted ZT.
We all know that he isn’t a play maker. We’ve known that since his days at UF, but he has always been consistent. He is the best ILB we have, for one of the best run D’s in the NFL and he cant talk shit?
If Joey said it, it would be ok (who hasnt done shit yet)
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 9, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Time to nut up, or shut up!!!
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