Dolphins First Quarter Review
by Matty I on Oct 7, 2009 12:15 AM EDT
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The NFL season, as great as it is, can be very frustrating in that we wait all offseason long for it to begin and then the season just zips on by in what seems like just the blink of an eye. Believe it or not, the Dolphins are already at the quarter pole of their season. Needless to say, you won't find a Dolphin fan anywhere who is satisfied with where the Dolphins stand right now. But there are a lot of football games left to be played - don't give up hope just yet.
Anyways, today we take a look back at the first quarter of the Dolphins season.
Offensive MVP: Ronnie Brown
This one is pretty easy. Ronnie has been a tremendous force running the ball and operating the 'Wildcat' for the Dolphins through these first four games. His 136 yard, 2 touchdown effort back in week two on Monday night against the Colts should have been enough to win that football game. His 115 yard, 2 touchdown effort last week against Buffalo did lead the Dolphins to a nice easy win. And for the season, Brown is third in the entire NFL in rushing yards (369) and fourth in rushing touchdowns (4). And his 5.1 yard-per-carry average ranks second among all backs who have at least 50 carries. At this pace, Brown is on his way to a 1,400 yard season. Now let's pay the man and keep him in Miami!
Defensive MVP: Kendall Langford
This one was very tough. The two players who lead the team in tackles have been victimized a lot in the passing game and have missed a lot of tackles (Yeremiah Bell and Gibril Wilson). Cameron Wake and Jason Taylor lead the team in sacks. But Wake has only been a factor in one game and Taylor has been quiet for at least half of the 16 quarters of football played by the Dolphins. But what has been outstanding is Miami's ability to stop the run - ranking second in the entire NFL. And Kendall Langford is a big reason why. Using a complicated method, Pro Football Focus ranks Langford as the 4th best 3-4 defensive end in the league thus far. He also leads all Dolphins' linemen in tackles and has a sack to go with his effective play against the run. Being completely honest, I believe the Dolphins uncovered a true gem when they spent a 3rd round pick in '08 on this kid - he just might be a special player.
Offensive Least Valuable Player: Ted Ginn Jr.
Teddy has been taking a beating recently by fans and the media alike. And for good reason. He was supposed to make that big "3rd year leap" that young receivers make and finally become the number one receiver this team desperately needs. Instead, he has seemingly taken a step back. Ginn has been targeted 30 times - more than any other Dolphin - but has just 14 catches and is averaging 9.9 yards per catch. And over the last two games, Ginn has just one catch on nine targets. He's also losing snaps now to other receivers and seems to be in Tony Sparano's "doghouse."
Defensive Least Valuable Player: Gibril Wilson
You can probably go with Wilson or Channing Crowder here. But I chose Wilson because his mistakes and poor play has been more costly than Channing's. Using Pro Football Focus and their metrics to measure safeties, Wilson ranks 113th among NFL safeties in production - and that's out of 118 who were ranked. Truth be told, though, statistics and various metrics only tell half the story. If you've been watching the Dolphins all year, then you know just how poorly Wilson has played. He's missed many tackles and has allowed far too many completions when he's asked to cover. Is this what we get for a 5 year, $27.5 million contract that includes $8 million in guarantees?
Most Pleasant Surprise: Run Defense
It's not that the Dolphins were bad against the run last season. They were ranked 10th in the league. But they still surrendered 101 yards per game and 4.2 yards per carry. Many of us also had some concern about their defensive line heading into 2009. Kendall Langford, Phillip Merling, and Randy Starks had all shown some flashes - but still weren't as consistent as they needed to be. Meanwhile, we all worried about Jason Ferguson because of his age and wondered who would be the primary backup nose tackle. But through four games, the Dolphins are ranked 2nd in the NFL in rush defense, allowing only 61 yards per game and just 2.9 yards per carry. If the Dolphins can keep this up, they certainly give themselves to win any game they play from here on out.
Most Unpleasant Surprise: Pass Defense
Last year the Dolphins were not very good against the pass, allowing 227 yards per game through the air - which ranked 25th in the NFL. While we all expected the Dolphins to have some trouble defending the pass in 2009 because of their two rookie corners having big roles, I don't think many people expected this kind of struggle. They've allowed 238 yards per game through the air in '09 - only 11 yards more than last year. But that only tells half of the story. Because of how well the Dolphins have done in controlling the ball and keeping the opposing offense off of the field, they haven't given up a ridiculous amount of yardage. But they are allowing a putrid 8.7 yards per pass attempt - the worst figure in the league. They have also allowed the second most passes of 20+ yards (16) and the second most passes of 40+ yards (5). Not good.
Biggest Storyline: Chad Henne takes over
We all figured that we'd see Chad Henne get some reps - maybe even some starts - at some point in 2009. But nobody thought it would happen this soon. It was a total shame to see Chad Pennington go down like that for the season. Even if you you did want to see Henne start over Pennington, CP is just too classy and too good of a person to wish injury on - especially something that could end his career. But it is what it is and now Dolphin fans get the chance to see Chad Henne make 12 more starts this year. We're all hoping for the best - and a win over the Bills and Jets to start your career is a great way to gain support. Get it done on Monday night, Chad!
Breakout Player of Remaining 12 Games: Brian Hartline
We've already seen the rookie from Ohio State catch his first touchdown pass. Is it long before we see him take a fellow Buckeye's starting spot? Ted Ginn is already losing snaps to Hartline and the rest of Miami's receivers. Hartline is a better run blocker and has better size than Ginn as well. Chad Henne also probably has a better rapport with Hartline already after working more with the second team offense in training camp. I expect to see more and more of Hartline as the season progresses.
Key to Remainder of Season: Chad Henne
It would be easy to claim that the offensive line is the key to the final 12 games for the Dolphins. And I agree that those big guys up front will be very crucial to the success of the team. But if the Dolphins want to get back into the playoff hunt and remain there for the year, there is going to come a point in the season - especially with how the defense has struggled against good passing attacks - where Chad Henne will be asked to win a football game or two. Will the young gunslinger get it done? It's a lot to ask, especially with these receivers. But stranger things have happened and if Henne can develop quickly and provide a balance to Miami's dominant ground attack, the Dolphins very well could surprise a lot of people by the end of the year.
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Yeah, why are they waiting to sign Ronnie?
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i say sign him now
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
I HART DOLPHINS
by kewlguy on Oct 7, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait til after the season, dont jinx it
you saw what happend with camarillo as soon as he re-signed last year
by FishNFinz on Oct 7, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You cant sign or not sign guys based on the fact that they may get hurt.
Based on that you would never sign anyone.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are in no rush to sign Ronnie....
It’ll happen in the offseason, but they won’t negotiate it during the season is my guess.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 7, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That may be true given that they may not have to resign him based on what
happed with the CBA.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*happens
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If no CBA, then RB has another year on his contract, if there is a new CBA then his contract ends rhis year
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by PhinsTifosi on Oct 7, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
They may be waiting to see what happens with the CBA.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats tru, but ronnies bettyer
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Trends: Sept - Dec reversal?
Could we be seeing a reversal in win-loss patterns? For many years even under Shula, we won everything from Labor Day into early November, then injuries piled up, cold weather set in and we would play our way out of the playoffs. Hope this year is setting up like last with a strong finish starting in October. Beating the Jets Monday night would be a great start.
by coloradokevin on Oct 7, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont like a loss at anytime of the year but I hope its the case this year.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the O line can support Henne's pass attempt's as they do the run,
Ginn might very well be a factor (timing, timing, timing) Hartline & Camarillo can & will support.
They key to the season has to be the O line
First
by Tunaflipper on Oct 7, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
your right
about ginn and timing, but he runs scared still, i thought he might get barever when he does routes that make him stop or come back which he had to do with CP10 at the helm. CP10 was the best Qb we’ve had in a long time but he has limitations
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by kewlguy on Oct 7, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn needs to regain his confidence.
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by Patssuck456 on Oct 7, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
he needs to put his balls back into ball sack and play some football. Take a hit or two, thats why you get paid the big bucks.
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by Phintastic on Oct 7, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i say let him get hit by a truck to toughen em up
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy Starks can help with that
the Freightliner he owns would do the trick ;)
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by OntheGo on Oct 7, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can the truck actually run OVER him?
I’d like to get him off the field….
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by Fr8Train on Oct 7, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that works
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No the truck wont work
He will just run towards the side walk, lol
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Oct 7, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tie him to a pole
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and break the sound barrier
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
I HART DOLPHINS
by kewlguy on Oct 7, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regain his confidence?
….regain it from when. Oh you must be talking about college.
by D X on Oct 7, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he meant the colts game
he had eleven recs and two drops. one that was asking a lot of him and one easy one he made up fo on the next down
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by kewlguy on Oct 7, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a great post Matty
Good job.
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by AussieKen on Oct 7, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome write up
we NEED to give RB what he wants. Can u imagine this team w/o him?
The season is going by so fast, 1/4 gone?? jeeeez, we waited so long and now its flying by. Cant wait for monday!
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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by MrMedic on Oct 7, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it allready 1/4 done?
wooooow
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
defensive least valuable player could have gone to...
Will Allen as well. I am really glad he stepped it up this last game but he was TERRIBLE the first three games. Surrendering big gains from receivers in every game! I really hope he gets on track again.
GEtSICK 4 JC
by GEtSICK13 on Oct 7, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our motto last year was..
Why not us!!
This year should be " Make it happen"
Cause we will MAKE IT happen damed!!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Oct 7, 2009 2:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no no no
Our mono this year is " SPREAD IT OUT AND MAKE CHANGE HAPPEN ! "
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID ....LETS GO OUT THERE AND WIN SOME FOOTBALL !!!
by BIGfinfanorl. on Oct 7, 2009 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait to sign ronnie till playoff or after !!!!
We need Ronnie Brown to show what he can do for a full season … sign him to early and he might let up? … Im not saying Ronnie doesn’t have the drive to try to win a super-bowl this year i"m just saying WE KNOW WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS ONCE YOU SIGN ’EM 2 A BIG CONTRACT … ( A SLOW DOWN -OR LET DOWN )!!!!
….. So make Ronnie earn his big contract it makes him and the team better . i wanna see great things before big contract … MAKE HIM EARN IT !!!
YOU KNOW WHAT I"M SAYING !!!
OLD SCHOOL WAYS!!!
BILL ANY_ONE?
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID ....LETS GO OUT THERE AND WIN SOME FOOTBALL !!!
by BIGfinfanorl. on Oct 7, 2009 3:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FYI
If you go to the pro football focus website, there’s alot of interesting things there… first thing that really surprised me was that Jake Grove is ranked as the #1 Center…. way to go trifecta!!
Other things of note are Ricky is the #1 rated RB and Ronnie is #3. Ricky is rated the best from a blocking perspective of any back also.. great vindication for him on that front. Lex Hilliard and Jason Allen grade in the top 5 for special teams, good job guys! Sparano wasnt kidding about how active Lex as on special teams. Davone bess rates as a top 5 receiver! Go Figure! Sean Smith gets a good ranking
From a negative perspective, some things that surprised me were that Dan Carpenter is rated in the bottom 3 in Kickers… not sure why that is… possibly due to kickoffs? Also not surprisingly our safeties graded out extremely low, neither being in the top 60! Culver is ranked ahead of both. Also our interior Guards are rated pretty low as well… didnt think they would be that bad considering Jake and our RBs were doing so well. I guess they have been giving up a lot of sacks. Will Allen not in the top 100 for CBs…but sits right next to antonio cromartie so who knows..
by YatilGinnJr on Oct 7, 2009 4:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ricky is the greatest :D
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by joel311 on Oct 7, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your saying Ronnie was ranked behind Ricky? I dont know if I can buy that!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.... I can buy that.
Ronnie gets most of what I would consider “easier” yardage when he snaps out of the Wildcat formation. Ricky is used more like a 3rd down back for short yardage but still manages to keep his yards per run avg. extremely high. Ricky just might be the better running back right now but Ronnie is younger and should get better. I thought the same last year and now it’s confirmed.
I hope we wait until the end of the year to sign Ronnie. Whatever leverage we can get. I believe the running success we’ve had the last two years is mostly because of the O-Line.
Any chances of a trade here? We’re stacked nicely at the RB position with two quality players. We have more holes in other positions like safeties, WR, etc. If we’re knocked out of the race it would be nice to have someone “overpay” for Ronnie’s or Ricky’s talents.
What’s the worst that could happen? If we truly have a great O-Line we would still have either Ronnie or Ricky. Maybe Lex can take a few snaps… This line can make most good running backs successful.
by D X on Oct 7, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well given that Ricky is gone after 2010 I dont think you keep just him and
no one is going to trade for a guy thats going to soon retire. Got to keep and resign Brown.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I'm a stong playoff contender with a RB weakness... why not?
This is al hypothetical anyway. I honestly don’t believe there’s a shot it’s going to happen not because it wouldn’t make sense but more so because Ricky’s become the face of the Miami Dolphins and I’m sure some sales dollars from jerseys or whatever would be lost for Miami.
I honestly don’t even believe Ricky’s going to retire but that’s another discussion. Wait till he gets his child support payment request and we’ll see what he does.
I just thinks it makes sense to sell high right now with Ricky. If you’ve seen the holes Ricky’s been running though this year you know he’s no Adrian Peterson. So if he ends up being paid those type of dollars let’s put him out on the market and see what we can get from him.
You know we’re seeing similar yards per carry numbers from Ricky and Ronnie. In my opinion, the MVP is Ricky considering how much money he’s SAVED us.
Ask yourself if Ronnie gets hurt are we really in danger of running the ball less effectively? Maybe so for the wildcat when you need two RB’s who know what they’re doing but Ricky can pound the ball just as well as Ronnie so far. It’s not so much that either of them have gotten tremendously better over the last few years. It’s the O-Line.
by D X on Oct 7, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you may be on an island by yourself with this one.
I respect your opinion but I dont see us getting rid of Brown unless someone comes in and offers something outrageous. Hes not going anywhere. The Phins fandom would damn near riot if this were to happen.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I remeber not alot of people liked Hartline when we drafted him...
Everyone liked Turner more.
I think Hartline will have a nice rookie season and hopefully a good career with us. It looks like he’s Henne’s favorite target on the field.
I still have hope in Ginn, just give him a little more time to get use to Henne. When these two become more comfortable together, I’m sure we’ll see alot of bombs downfield to Ginn.
I love Langford. He is one of, if not the best, Defensive lineman on the team. PRO-BOWL OR BUST!!!
Ronnie is going to be great this year. He’ll be contending for MVP at the year if he keeps it up.
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by Kdog92 on Oct 7, 2009 5:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
very good points
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been on the Hartline bandwagon since the second he was drafted
Being an Ohio State fan I got to watch him alot. I did a happy dance on draft day when that pick was announced!!
by FinsFanDave on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But as an Ohio State Fan
I’m betting you were hoping for Robiskie before Hartline….
Thank god that didn’t happen.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 7, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was never on the Turner bus but have been pulling for Hartline since the say we drafted him.
I never saw him play b4 but I started watching vids and watched his interviews n such and just got a great feeling about him. Now the season is still young.. but he looks like he will be a good WR
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
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We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
by MainePhinFan on Oct 7, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE WILL
I have a gut felling, just like I do about Henne and Folsom
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by kewlguy on Oct 7, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Folsom?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 7, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I like Folsom too
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by Kdog92 on Oct 7, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prison? :)
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
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by Fr8Train on Oct 7, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blues
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by PhinsTifosi on Oct 7, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still on the roster?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 7, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Michigan guy's favorite target is an Ohio State WR!
Thats F***ED up man
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DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
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by kewlguy on Oct 7, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats the dolphins bond
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the probowl site...Davone Bess is randed 5th for WR's
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano
by Kdog92 on Oct 7, 2009 6:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and Grove's ranked 1st for C's
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by Kdog92 on Oct 7, 2009 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Ricky and Ronnie are in the top 3 for RB'S
haha…i love this site
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano
by Kdog92 on Oct 7, 2009 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats the web address for that site?
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano
by Kdog92 on Oct 7, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Kdog!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was this post brought to me by sprint?
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 7:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let it go Sam!
Remember free!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no thank you
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braylon Edwards traded to the Jets.....
Well…. hopefully something like this forces Miami’s hand to go and get a True #1 WR.
Yes, Edwards drops balls, yes he’s been inconsistent, but he’s got a high ceiling, and may just need the right coach. I certainly didn’t want him, but he’s a big play receiver…which means every team in the AFC East has one…..except us.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 7, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG That totally sucks!
I guess after the tampering with Crabtree did not work out so well for them they had to do something. Why could we not have made this deal? Damn it!!!!!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they way WAY overpaid for him....
WR Chansi Stuckey, LB Jason Trusnick, and two draft picks believed to be third- and fifth-rounders.
I wouldn’t have paid that much for him.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 7, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the second time they've given up absolutely crap to get whatever they want from Mangina in Cleveland
They got all the way up to Pick 5 to get Sanchez by swapping 1st’s, and giving up 3 backups.
Now, they give up nobody and a couple picks and get Edwards.. Mangina is a dork.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol mangina
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me neither
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no too much
agreed
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by kewlguy on Oct 7, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well you know...
they say the same thing about Ginn, and we all know how that one is working out.
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by Dragon27az on Oct 7, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is saying anything like that about Ginn?
High Ceiling? Big Play Receiver? I’ve never heard that even whispered about Ginn.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 7, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still remember
draft day…that is all they were talking about. Big play threat, still blossoming, blah blah blah.
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by Dragon27az on Oct 8, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh No! Braylon Edwards got traded to the Jets!
Dammit! Just when I was talking about trading him for Ginn! No bleeping way! :,(
by JP 23 on Oct 7, 2009 9:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Why
so he could drop as many passes as the Ginn Family? Braylon doesnt have his head on straight, dont know why. Imagine this people, we almost ended up with Braylon Butter-Fingers Edwards, but instead took Ronnie. Thank god Saban did at least 1 thing right.
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by Dragon27az on Oct 7, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol nice job jinxing it
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never Mind. They gave up way too much for him. They can have him!
The Jets gave up Chansi Stuckey, a back-up LB, and a 3rd and 5th rounder. That’s way too much. They can have him. He’s a free agent after the season anyways! We’ll steal him after. Lol
by JP 23 on Oct 7, 2009 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I am sure if they gave that much up for him its with the idea that they are going to
give him a new contract.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More than likely....thats what conventional wisdom says.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 7, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is that too much?
They want to compete now, what good is a 5th rounder? Stuckey would not ever play again with Edwards on the team, so he’s a throwaway in the deal. They gave up nothing
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 7, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great story Matty, as always.
I was thinking of writing a post about the stats so far (I was looking at them at NFL.com yesterday), but you covered most of what I picked up on. (1 niggling thing – 238 ypg given up in pass is 11more than 227 last year, not 1)
My take from the stats is that without looking at the won-loss count you would think you were looking at the stats of a team with a 3-1 record, not 1-3.
I think, based on the rankings you and others quote, R&R is THE best RB tandem in the league!
I will reserve my judgment on Henne for a while longer. He was a good game manager last week, gee, wonder where he learned that trait? (Thank you CP10 – and to all you CP haters – spleahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!)
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by PhinsTifosi on Oct 7, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes it is...
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we did ok in the first half..
Not good, not bad. I think with Henne in now, we might actually get things rolling. We have the down field threat (even though we wont see much of it until the 3 or 4 quarter of the season) and we have the running game on lock.
The only problem I see is our secondary, specially Wilson. Everytime i watch a Dolphins game, my family thinks im watching cast away, always screaming Wilson!!!!!!!!! LMAO
So after sitting my behind down and studing each team and their strength and weaknesses, i have come up with our final record. It will be 9-7, bet on it.
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Oct 7, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good points
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Assessment!
Very good and insightful. I think Ronnie is a HUGE key to this team. He is our #1 RB and our trigger man/QB out of the wildcat. NOT the wildPat! The WC is a running formation and that’s what it has always been. Henne should get plenty of experience this year and I hope to see him lead some game winning drives like he was able to do at Michigan. I just hope he learns how to look off the safeties to limit the picks…
by Big Dawgg on Oct 7, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this should say something...
“Cameron Wake and Jason Taylor lead the team in sacks. But Wake has only been a factor in one game”
by PhinsFan69 on Oct 7, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It will if he plays and gets more sacks in the JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJets game!
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by PhinsTifosi on Oct 7, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well done
A question on Langford. Is he big enough to be a hybrid DE/DT ala richard seymour?
by kazam92 on Oct 7, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice write up Matty
I agree with a lot of your thoughts on this one, but a few differences. Here is how I would break it all down:
MVP -Is definitely Ronnie, no doubt. Give the man an extension already as long as it isn’t going to break the bank. Next in line is Ricky…guy is playing smart, with a lot of heart, and is running like a man with a purpose.
Defensive MVP -I gotta give this one to Jason Ferguson. He is an absolute beast in the middle and constantly clogs the running lanes so others can make a play on the ball carrier. Langford would be my runner-up, though I am hoping to see more of Wake reaking havoc…the guy is going to be a stud….quote me on that one.
Offensive Least Valuable -definitely Ginn. While not his fault that Cameron reached for him, big time, he still needs to produce. Dropping every pass that comes your way will definitely earn you this honor. I mean, I could litterally suit up and do the same thing.
Defensive least valuable -Wilson, no doubt. I had such high hopes for the guy. It just looks like he is playing out of position being on the FS side….but isnt that where he played in NY?
Most pleasant surprise -I am going to give it up to the OL on this one. 2 games of 200+ rushing yardage gets my nod. We all knew that a lot was invested in these guys, but they are definitely living up to it now. The reason they get it over the DL is simply because there were way more question marks surounding this group than that of the DL. DL is for sure the runner-up.
Unpleasant suprise -yep, the pass coverage…this is mainly on Bell/Wilson as I think the corners have been playing extremely well. They do get an honorable mention for dominating the Bills though….but at the same time the Bills dont have a TE in the same neighborhood as a Clarke/Gonzalez/Gates.
With you on all the others Matty., but here are a couple of additional categories:
Best FA addition offense-Jake Grove. We had questioned this move after the pre-season and week 1, but are there any doubts now? The guy is playing like a beast…and eating up those NTs.
Best FA addition defense -I am giving this one up to Wake. Although he has only played one game, he has done more than any other…I hope to see a lot more of him in the coming weeks.
Best rookie offense -Hartline, no doubt. I dont think anyone else even comes close….but I hope PatCat can start getting in there without disrupting the offensive flow.
Best rookie defense -Tie with Smith/Davis. Both have played really well in draping WR’s like they are both crafty veterans. This duo will be the new Madison/Surtain for the next 4-5 years and hopefully longer! I made it a tie because of Vontae’s game-changing int for a TD on sunday….to me that really changed the whole coarse of the game and set the tone for the rest of it.
What you all think??
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by Dragon27az on Oct 7, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Ferg is good but Langford is awesome. I can’t believe they found a guy like top in the 3rd round, it just blows me away. Yes Gibril Wilson Sux, I just wanted to write that again. Jake Grove is ok. He’s not spectacular in any way; he very ordinary but at least I have seen him get completely pushed back.
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by AussieKen on Oct 7, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you watched any games this year?
The wildcat are runs basically straight up the middle…..and how do you get lanes up the middle? From the center and guards moving their guys out of the way, thats how. So, if you are averaging like 5 yards a carry up the middle, then Grove is doing his job well.
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by Dragon27az on Oct 8, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a center
how spectacular do you want him to be? He’s been a stud so far this year. It looks like you’re still mad that we signed him and haven’t really been watching him play
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 8, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
major sammory
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here you go Sam!
Ronnie Brown and Jason Ferguson kick ass. Ginn and Wilson suck ass. The OL makes him happy the DL makes him happy but a little less so. The pass coverage does not make him happy at all. Matty is a smart guy. Addition of Wake and Grove=Good! Best rookies=Hartline, Smith and Davis. Maybe someday P. White.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
o yes, well said
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by samdaman on Oct 7, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats as short as I could get it while still getting all his points in there!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
you did a good job at it too! lol C’mon sam, words are your friends…unless they have knives and guns that is.
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by Dragon27az on Oct 8, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right, i'll read more
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by samdaman on Oct 8, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 8, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO PHINS!
AHHHHHH im so pumpd for this Jet game i rele hope that wake didnt just have one good game but signs of things to come….and i cant wait to see my boi Crowder knock the f*** out of that little george washington fagget!
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