Dominant ground attack and defense lead Dolphins to first win of season
by Matty I on Oct 5, 2009 12:38 AM EDT
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For the first time in a while, Miami Dolphin fans got to savor the taste of a blowout win - as the Dolphins trampled the Bills 38-10. Even last year during their improbable run to a division title, the Dolphins only had one real blowout victory - a week three win up in New England. Most of their other games came down to the wire - making Dolphin fans everywhere sweat out close win after close win. But on Sunday, the Dolphins took an early lead and never looked back. And while this win doesn't completely cleanse our palettes of three consecutive losses to begin the year - it's a start.
Onto some of Sunday's highlights:
Running game dominates
While some fans declared during the game in our live thread that the Dolphins are the best running team in the NFL now, I'm not exactly ready to go that far. With that said, however, it's not easy to argue that idea.
The Dolphins were starting their young, inexperienced quarterback and it's no secret that the Bills main defensive goal was to stop Miami from running the football. Buffalo's defensive focal point was stopping Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. Everybody was aware of that heading into the game. And all Brown and Williams did was combine for 200 yards rushing and three touchdowns, averaging 5.55 yards per carry. All told, the Dolphins ran for a whopping 250 yards. Not bad.
Ronnie again showed patience as a runner, good vision, and excellent burst on his way to a 115 yard, 2 touchdown day. That gives Brown 369 yards on the season, which is impressive considering he's only getting 18 carries per game thus far. The reason for that? Ricky Williams has been outstanding as Ronnie's compliment out of the backfield. His 85 yards rushing on Sunday gives him 248 yards rushing on the season, putting him on pace for 992 yards in 2009. I know I've been highly critical of how Brown and Williams are used, openly stating that I think Ronnie needs a bigger share of the work. But right now, they just need to keep doing what they are doing.
Could the Dolphins be on their way to a dual 1,000 yard backfield?
They could be - though it's still a long way off. But it's certainly possible thanks to how Miami's offensive line is performing. They seem to get better each week as they get more work together and continue to gel. Sunday's performance by those big guys up front was outstanding - they physically dominated Buffalo's defensive line.
Next week, though, will be a very good test for this offensive line. The Jets have a very good defense that will obviously focus on stopping Ronnie and Ricky. If the Dolphins can run the ball effectively next Monday night, then I'll buy into the idea that the Dolphins are the best running team in the league.
Defense makes plays
Where the hell has this defense been in 2009? Were those the same guys in Dolphin jerseys who got torched over and over during their two previous games?
Sure, it helps that Trent Edwards stinks. But even still, the Bills have play-making receivers. But the Dolphins just made play after play - whether it was a sack, a pass break-up, or an interception.
Let's start off talking about Will Allen. He took a beating this past week after being picked on by Phillip Rivers last week. But he stepped up today, making big play after big play and finishing the game with two interceptions and three pass deflections. I especially was impressed with Allen's first pick. He did a nice job of keeping Terrell Owens in front of him and then he simply beat Owens to that spot. It was an ill-advised pass by Edwards for sure - but still a great read by Allen.
Meanwhile, Vontae Davis made his first career game-changing play, jumping an out route and taking the interception 23 yards for the touchdown. Those are the kinds of plays you expect cornerbacks drafted in the first round to make. And you have to be impressed with his preparation for this game. Davis said after the win on Sunday that he knew the route was coming because "that particular route was one they used to start their rhythm." Davis said he saw the receiver plant his foot to cut and he simply reacted and made the pick. Davis also added a pass deflection on Sunday as well.
Who needs Joey Porter?
With the team's leading pass-rusher on the sidelines for Sunday's game, I don't think anybody saw this coming. But even without Joey Porter, the Dolphins were able to consistently get to Trent Edwards - sacking him six times.
The biggest story to come out of Miami's dominating pass rush was, without a doubt, the outstanding performance of Cameron Wake. Wake dominated a young Bills' offensive line en route to a three sack day. Wake also forced a fumble and registered two additional quarterback hits, proving to the coaching staff that the man needs to get more reps on gameday, even once Joey Porter returns. Wake was also impressive when he was asked to cover, which was the big question mark when the Dolphins signed the former CFL star.
Not to be outdone, Jason Taylor finally began to look like the JT of old on Sunday, registering two sacks and two additional quarterback hits of his own. And he did this despite playing the game with a sore shoulder that he injured early in the game. You might say Taylor benefited from going up against an inexperienced offensive line, but regardless he consistently manhandled whoever attempted to block him.
Hopefully Porter can get back on the field soon because it's going to be fun seeing how the coaching staff rotates these three pass-rushers from this point forward.
Chad Henne efficient in first career start
While I'm sure you'll all hear plenty about Chad Henne in the coming days from the media and fans alike, there's a reason I didn't really bring him up earlier - and that reason is simply because he didn't do anything exceptional. The Dolphins won this game because of their running game and their defense.
With that said, the important thing to highlight is that Chad Henne did an excellent job in managing the game and taking what was given to him. Yes, he made a couple inaccurate throws. But he also made some very accurate and smart throws. The touchdown pass to Brian Hartline, for example, was a beautiful throw that looked easier than it really is. Henne put the right amount of arc and touch on the ball to drop it over the defender.
What an impressive stat on Henne? He was 6/9 throwing the ball on third down on Sunday - with five of those completions resulting in a first down and the other resulting in a 4th & inches that Miami converted. That's how you keep drives alive and win football games.
His most impressive possession was the first possession of the second half. Henne went 4/4 for 38 yards and a touchdown. On that drive, Henne looked decisive, the ball came out quick and accurate, and he looked to be fully in control. Tony Sparano puts an emphasis on how the team performs during the first drive of the second half and you have to believe he was pleased with Henne on this day.
I was impressed with Henne's composure on the field all game. Despite getting sacked six times, he never looked flustered or in over his head at all. But at the same time, he did play it safe. If this was Chad Pennington, many would say that the quarterback was "scared" to throw the football down field. So let's not sit here and throw tons of praise on Henne. He played smart and efficient football - "Pennington ball," if you will. And it got the job done.
TURNING POINT OF THE GAME
I think there are two points you can highlight here for the turning point. But I'm going to go with Ronnie Brown's one-yard touchdown run on a 4th & goal from the one that put the Dolphins up 17-3 late in the second quarter. I loved the Dolphins play-calling. I think that calling a pass on 3rd & goal from the one was a great idea. The defense was likely looking run there and the Dolphins coaching staff knew they would go for it one 4th & goal - so why not try to surprise the defense and get Henne his first touchdown? It didn't work out - but Ronnie pounded it in on 4th down to give the Dolphins a two touchdown lead. They never looked back.
QUICK HITS
Some additional quick thoughts on the game:
- I continue to be amazed at how well Miami's defense is at stopping the run. The Bills totaled just 46 yards on 17 carries on Sunday. And their ability to stop the run will be critical next Monday night when the Jets come to town.
- I love Tony Sparano's decision to go for it on 4th down twice. We spoke about one of the times already. But how about their second 4th down conversion? It was already 24-3 Dolphins and Sparano could have easily taken the chip-shot field goal. But no - they give it to Ronnie and he gets the first. Three plays later, Ricky Williams gets into the endzone to essentially seal the deal.
- As great as the run-blocking was, the pass protection was not very good. There were clearly a couple of blitz pick-up issues. And Vernon Carey got beat very bad on one play early in the game. Things better improve in a hurry with the "all blitz, all day" mentality of Rex Ryan and the Jets coming to town.
- The "Henne to Ginn" connection netted four yards. Anyone get the feeling Ginn might be slowly fazed out of the offense?
- The 'Wildcat' is not a gimmick. Enough with that crap.
- Lost in the shuffle was that Phillip Merling might have suffered a serious foot injury. That would be a tough loss, so let's hope for the best.
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"Anyone get the feeling Ginn might be slowly fazed out of the offense?"
LMAO!!!! You mean this hasn’t happened yet?
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ginn is a non producing S.O.B. I can’t stand him. Let him run a couple of end arounds for the remainder of the season then ditch that bitch.
by la Roc on Oct 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind words
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't show up a-Ginn!
Couldn’t agree more! I hate when I look around the league and see Chambers,welker and other receivers who we should have kept and game after game ginn does nothing! Can some one please tell me why he was drafted so high? I am sure if you look back at his draft class there are better receivers drafted after him. Time for ginn to go! Turn the Rook’s loose way to go Henne and Hartline lets see Turner.
by doberman on Oct 5, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chambers had a nice TD yesterday.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we had a number 2 let alone a number 1.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree, i sill love chambers
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still better than ginn
at least chambers has a career to be done with ginny doesn’t even have that!
by doberman on Oct 6, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He long ago phased himself out.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean that Patrick Turner will finally get a chance
by IEphinfan23 on Oct 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
he has a “fat chance” of getting on the field.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gibril Wilson and Vernon Carey...
were owned. Again.
by Krush on Oct 5, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes Wilson missed a couple tackels as usual. We have to light a fire under his ass soon.
Overall we kept TO from really burning us to a crisp so.. we did OK. But giving up 160ish yards in the air is not good enough is we do not put up at least 17 points. Today 38 points made me horny !
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
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We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
by MainePhinFan on Oct 5, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MHTD is available now...LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes yes i am
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Oct 5, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
and i will come very very cheap, cause i am still receiving checks from the $200 million contract i signed with Al Davis
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Oct 5, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Only Al Davis would have given a non college player that
contract.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am in college
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Oct 5, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said college player. As in football not a guy thats a player thats
in college.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah gotcha
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Oct 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.... Oooo,ooooo,
EverybodyLovesDolphins is also available…. LOL!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henne
I’m glad you mentioned Henne playing it safe with those sacks. Something that you can see in the stadium but can’t always see on TV is the coverage downfield. On all but the sack where Carey got beat — the secondary was ironclad on the receivers. He was very smart by taking the sacks rather than trying to force the ball into coverage and possibly turn the ball over. Devone Bess and Greg Camarillo did a great job being very quarterback-friendly today, and the game plan to protect Henne — in terms of not putting the game on his shoulder, was very smart.
by rroan28 on Oct 5, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really thought I was watching Chad Pennington out there.
by JP 23 on Oct 5, 2009 7:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Henne did take a few shots down the field
The timing just isnt there yet between him and his WRs, it will come thhough
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by Patssuck456 on Oct 5, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It takes more than 1 week of full practice to change the offense...
He took a few shots downfield, but changing protections, and routes, and everything else that goes into a downfield throw will take some time…. This offense is based on CP10 running things, they spent a whole offseason preparing of CP10 to QB us…. and it will take several weeks to change things to the new look.
Expect a safe Dink & Dunk for a while… but I’m very pleased at Henne with this performance.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
they want him to get comfortable, and they want to the team to accept him. Wins do that! i mean, no one should be feeling like Pennington was benched and they are betraying him to support Henne. And Henne comes in and gets them their first win? Everyone is probably on board supporting their new QB.
Now a loss makes that a bit more difficult. For now, they are going to take fewer risks that put Henne in a position to be blamed for a loss.
i am surprised we haven’t heard this brought up more, but Henne and CP were VERY close in comp % during camp; both in the mid 60s I think. He certainly should be able to execute the “dink and dunk” for a while as they roll out more deep outs and posts for him to take shots at.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
They aren’t going to make Henne throw 29 passes a game for 300 yards, even if he has the ability to do so. There is no reason as long as our Running Game is demolishing people.
I think his stat line this week will be a consistent indicator for next couple weeks, unless we get way behind. Even then you’ll see more attempts but high-percentage passes, not a ton of downfield stuff.
Was there a Wildcat Pass this game, or am I still waiting?
And was PW taking the knee? cuz he looked fantastic if he was. Great Play.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, PW looked VERY good when he was in there
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor Pat….
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what?
i was serious.
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why doesn't anyone like him?!?!?!?!
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know that anyone dislikes him.
Hell I’m sure hes quite a swell guy. I think the issue is that he has yet to prove he can do anything at this level. Now I am sure its a bit premature to throw him under the bus but hes going to take a beating as long as most of us think that the pick used on him could have been used for a more dire need. We already have a guy that does just fine in the Wildcat.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
He may be the Beaver for all I care. But he still is way too inaccurate on his throws, and like you said, we have a Wildcat person…and actually even have a proven Wildcat QB in Thigpen now..
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly and for all we know he could become
some really good player its just that he did not fit a need for this team at the time.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he could be our 6th slot receiver :)
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have seen other college QBs come to this league
and be successfully converted to wideouts. I say its worth a try. This also gives the D something to think about if hes given the ball on a reverse or endaround knowing that he can throw.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately...
regardless of how good (or bad) PW could be as a slot receiver, we seem to have a glut of those (slot guys) and a serious lack of #1 caliber, playmakers on the perimeter.
Let’s not even get into the Ginn disappearing act either…
by Natalya on Oct 5, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think that a converted White would have to
play the slot?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily but...
with his 4.5ish speed, he’s not ideal as a flanker. White isn’t the biggest guy either (and possibly not a good blocker and/or good at beating press coverage) so I’m not sure he’d be a good fit for the split end role.
by Natalya on Oct 5, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to see something done
with him where we can use him or at least make him a tradable comity. I just cant stand that we wasted a high draft pick.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no argument there...
i, and some others said it on draft day, that taking him in the 2nd was not a good pick.
He, like Ginn, is a dolphin though so you want to get as much as you can out of him…
by Natalya on Oct 5, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or at least create some trade value.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
make him a return man
i bet he would kick ass. he has to be better than anyone we are using there today.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AGREED
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 6, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was joking about the WR.....
we already have a ton of #2/Slot receivers.
we don’t need another one.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would he have to play the slot?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, as long as u dont hate him
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No hate in my anywere sir!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
glad to hear that
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep running the Ball
nothing helps a young QB more then a good running game ie. mat ryan and joe flaco last year both had good running games and both had success if we can continue to run the ball and keep henne upright he will be successful
by 604finsfan on Oct 5, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Summary Matty
and yeah, and the important point about the D – Porter was on the bench.
JT plays better on the weak side, with Wake on the SS. I don’t think they should change it up when Porter gets well.
Wilson missed another big tackle. Agree with you about Clemons. And i would rather see Davis, Smith, and W. Allen on the field at the same time, than Nate Jones.
Ricky still looks faster than Ronnie, but Ronnie is a terrific inside runner out of the WC. They are an awesome tag team.
Hartline looks like the real deal – a reliable WR – a little more speed than Bess or Cammy, able to get open a little deeper. Where the hell is Turner?
And Henne – what a difference a week of practice makes, huh? The guy is getting better. I won’t say he’s great, but he didn’t make any real dumb mistakes, and he made some good decisions. i believe he will improve week over week.
Ginn is still a knucklehead. Running backward again on the return? Didn’t someone tell him not to do that? And the end around was for a lotta yards, but i believe it would have been a TD if he had read and followed his block. All he had to do (already at full speed) was continue to take it outside instead of cutting back in.
Other than Ginn, STs is starting to look pretty good, although we still don’t have a real return threat.
This was the most complete game I have seen the Fins bring for a long time…. probably including the games last year. It wasn’t a single aspect of the game or team that won it. Everyone was involved. Very cool! GREAT Win!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Turner
The fact that Turner can’t seem to earn any playing time with the WR corps that we have is a little of a cause of concern. True we’re only four games in — but I don’t think he’s been activated as of yet.
There must be something going on behind the scenes that’s keeping him off the field on Sundays. But what?
by rroan28 on Oct 5, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
I heard Sparano talk about that situation and he said that its unlikely that they would ever activate more than 4 recievers. If they play Turner who would they sit at this point. Hartline is coming along. Maybe he can beat out Bess or Camarillo at some point but that’ll be no time soon.
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by AussieKen on Oct 5, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sit either cammy or bess
or even ginn. =)
the main thing is we don’t need three “slot” guys, and Hartline has a litte more ability than cammy. Bess is the quickest within 10-15 yds of the LoS.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he has to beat them out first
I read that he’s been dropping passes in practice.Neither Cammy nor Bess has EVER dropped anything in their entire lives.
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by AussieKen on Oct 5, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i know.
i didn’t mean play him if he sucks.
but play him if he is close. some guys, like merling, wake, etc, play better than practice. Turner looked okay on the preseason. but maybe he just sucks. the triad have a great track record on drafts so far, but they are entitled to a bad pick here and there. =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was a "project player" anyway...
maybe they expected him to develop over the course of this year, and get into the lineup next year….
Maybe the plan is to showcase Bess or Cammy and then trade one of them away, since we are deep at #2 WR’s/Slot receivers.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Sparano and Co. expect too much from
big, physical WRs in a limited contact environment. Big WRs can’t really shine when the smaller/quicker WRs are running all over the field with no real hits from the secondary to shake them up or make them drop a pass. I think Sparano has yet to realize that a smaller WR is always going to look better in practice than a big guy. You can’t really see the value of the big guy when nobody is getting hit!
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by joel311 on Oct 5, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
there is a logic to that. i wonder how much truth there is in it.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn! My brain twisted reading that..!!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now it looks like one of those donut twists. ;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delicious!
Does that make me a zombie?
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by joel311 on Oct 5, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it make you subject to getting mad cow disease
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wait... what?
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree....
As much love as everyone has for Camarillo I don’t really see how you can sit Bess, Hartline or gasp Ginn at this point.
Cammy is still recovering, and I’d like to see Turner in the package as well.
I am wondering about what other issues are keeping him off the field though. The Coaching staff would probably love to have him, but they see more than what we do, so something else must be up.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes isnt it that he cant catch the freeking ball?
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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by MainePhinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my concern as well...
but I haven’t read anything or seen anything….so was hoping others have.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't this is the same stuff we talked about last year with wilford? =)
i mean, the exact same discussion.
if he can’t catch, leave him out. but we have ALL seen Turner make some catches. I can’t believe he can’t catch.
Maybe it his attitude? work ethic? i heard he gets to a point where he acts like a brat and won’t take coaching.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone has to fill Wilford's spot by the gator-aide
12-4 in 2009.
by phatfinfan on Oct 5, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree, especialy about hartline and ginn
r defense will be lights-out wen we get big joe back
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the combo of wake and taylor
is better than taylor/porter.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if anyone else has noticed but..
The combination of games with the great pass rushers JT and JP has produced a record of 1-18 so far. Something isn’t working about the combination.
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by AussieKen on Oct 5, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, i said this earlier.
i think when JP gets healthy you find a different role for him. Wake/Taylor seems to work because JT plays weakside better, where they have Porter playing. Wake did great off the strong side.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wake got 3 sacks on the strong side???
Holy $###, that makes it even more impressive!
I missed the first 2.5 quarters of the game because I was driving :(
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by joel311 on Oct 5, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only that...
It just seemed to look like they complimented each other better on the pass rush. Wake and JT had some synergy as they they collapsing the pocket.
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by AussieKen on Oct 5, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
COMPLETEY AGREE
that is what I have been trying to say about keeping the lineup the same, even when JP gets healthy. JT/Wake worked better than JP/JT.
Taylor was successful going against the LT, and Wake showed both strength in bull rushes, and agility in going inside or outside to beat the block from the SS.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone please correct me if I am wrong, but i didn't see Wake play anywhere except on the left side of the D.
i know JT is listed as SOLB, and Wake is Porter’s backup, on the right side, but i would swear (without going back and looking) that every time I saw Wake coming, he was coming around the RT/TE.
It looked to me like they swapped JT into Porter’s spot, and moved Wake to JTs spot. Was i seeing things? Damn, now you got me having to go re-watch it.
;-)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
phew.
thanks man! i was worried i just wasn’t paying attention there. =)
i was replaying the game in my mind and i thought that was going on. but i checked the depth chart and wake is listed as JPs backup on the weak side. =)
I have the game recorded, but haven’t had time to go back an look at it.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I had assumed that Wake got
all of his sacks from the weak side. I knew he was the backup there.
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by joel311 on Oct 5, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quietly, Wake logged more time on the SS in the preseason as well,
so it’s not a big surprise, but I think he took a couple of snaps at Willy too.
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by uncle finster on Oct 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
took a couple of snaps with his Willy?
what the hell are you talking about?
And where ya been man! I be missin da güd yumër!
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, very busy this week. as in last week, the week after you get back is always busy, from vacation that is,
hmmmmm
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by uncle finster on Oct 5, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well get yer priorities straight man!
what the hell are you doing working when you have not fulfilled your weekly Phinsider obligation?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonka..?
Free Willy..?
Chilly Willy..?
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
William the conquerer
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by uncle finster on Oct 5, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaah.... Willy C...
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, theres finster
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, theres finster
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
they did switch it up a few times…about 6 or 7 times that I noticed in the 1st half…but it didnt seem to create as much pressure…I didnt notice any switching in the 2nd half…kudos to the D coordinator for keeping the pressure up.
by unklphinnie on Oct 8, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all i know is that every time we got pressure, JT was coming from the left side of the O-line
and wake was coming over the right tackle
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 8, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i beg to differ
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
first win is ok but “one” is not?
God is Great,
Beer is good
and people are crazy.
Phyrmun
by phyrmun on Oct 5, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One is fine
As long as the win total is one+one+one+one….and so on.
by rroan28 on Oct 5, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm trying to eliminate the "first" posts
most people find them irritating.
by Matty I on Oct 5, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we eliminate “fo sho” posts, too? ;~)
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by AussieKen on Oct 5, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Can't wait untill Sean Smith puts Randy Moss on his ass lol, Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club.
by jojo phin fan on Oct 5, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if we can also eliminate personalized quotes that apparently tell strangers how creative and full of passionate insight we are… :)
by Krush on Oct 5, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree.
the personalized sigs are annoying
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell?
that wasn’t a “first post”. I was cheering the Fins first win. that’s a little petty isn’t it?
IMO
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but huge pictures
are not irritating
God is Great,
Beer is good
and people are crazy.
Phyrmun
by phyrmun on Oct 5, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on what it is a huge picture of
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really...
a large willy would be irritating.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awe......
… all the girls say that to you..!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, yes they do.
right before i irritate them
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Count it!
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by joel311 on Oct 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lefty's mate sez....
One tiny grape ball….. two tiny grape balls….
And One gerkin!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, she says a twig and two berries
but that is not really an appropriate topic of conversation, now is it alpha.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... so you say AFTER you say... LMAO!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that -- Belichick has a stiffy for 40 year old LBs.
by rroan28 on Oct 5, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No joke...
Like USC is Tailback U, The Pats are Old Balls, Linebacker U… lol
by Krush on Oct 5, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He likes to "say ow"....
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That dude needs to stay retired already!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He went to Brett Favre's retirement advisor
by IEphinfan23 on Oct 5, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh more bad adivise. That makes sense.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol makes sense now
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats stupid
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pink???
So does this mean we wear pink every week? :)
by Krush on Oct 5, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
by Tunaflipper on Oct 5, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate cancer..!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez has shown his colors.
If the the D can pressure and R & R can produce we have our 2nd win.
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by Tunaflipper on Oct 5, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh......... yellow..?
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was really impressed with Chad.
What was it that Dan Henning said? He related that Henne is just as good as Ryan, or Flacco. I think he showed the ability to be right there with those guys. His stats weren’t overly impressive but he was efficient and he made no dumn mistakes. What I liked was when Henne did throw it, the ball had a nice zip on it and thats what it takes to have a good offense. I look forward to seeing Henne grow with the offense while they build it around his skill set,
Today was cool but everyone must get to work on the next game. It won’t be easy to beat that “team.”
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by AussieKen on Oct 5, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There was one pass in particular to Hartline on the home sideline that really impressed me. That was the kind of throw that Pennington couldn’t make.
by rroan28 on Oct 5, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not an illusion, Miami is the best rushing team in the NFL
Miami is tops in yards with 734. Next closest is New Orleans, at 665.
Everybody’s favorite running team, Minnesota, is 303 yards behind Miami, but have yet to play this week, so, barring a record setting day for Peterson, we’ll finish week 4 comfortably ahead of everyone in the league yardage-wise.
We are in a 3 way tie for 3rd in YPC avg, at 5.0. 1st is Dallas at 6.0, and 2nd is Tennessee, at 5.5.
We are 1st in yards per game with 183.5. Next closest, New Orleans again, at 166.2.
We are tied for 2nd in rushing TD’s with 6. The leader? Baltimore, with 7.
For comparison, last year’s top rushing team, the NY Giants, averaged 5 yds a carry, and 157 a game.
2007’s top rushing team, the Vikings, averaged 5.3 a carry and 164 a game.
Did I mention we’ve played 3 playoff teams already? The Miami Dolphins are the best rushing team in the NFL.
"While some fans declared during the game in our live thread that the Dolphins are the best running team in the NFL now, I’m not exactly ready to go that far. "
After seeing those stats, are you ready to go that far now?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
sign me up!
BTW, AP is going to have a record setting day tomorrow.
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol it's always a possibility with him
guy is unbelievable
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much for that record setting day huh Left?
Looks like GB figured out how to bottle up AP. And dude really needs to stop fumbling so much for supposedly having the strongest grip in the NFL.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Oct 6, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... strongest grip.... hmmmmm...........
… wonder how they tested that….. lol
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by Alpha6 on Oct 6, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Lets not even go there!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 6, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
i’m not a believer that stats tell the entire story.
And if you want to look at stats, the Dolphins have faced the #16, #25, #27, and #28 rush defenses in the league.
by Matty I on Oct 5, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
they are ranked so low because we hung huge chunks of yardage on all of them?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just going to say you got OWNED but that was a good comeback though =)
by MauMontaV5 on Oct 5, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I don’t care who we faced.. We are PTRing with the best of them.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm worried when he puts on "the gloves"
thats all I’m sayin’
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nicky knows
he da Foosball Man!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, that's the reason
we ruined there stats. =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now thats positive thinking
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by Neo on Oct 5, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta admit, there is some truth to it.
only 3, 4 games into the season, one big game makes a difference in the rankings.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont bring us down, matt
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon you glass is half empty guy
be a do bee, don’t be a don’t bee!!
by IEphinfan23 on Oct 5, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... or you'll be a pee pee...
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like those numbers
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sup guys
Can't wait untill Sean Smith puts Randy Moss on his ass lol, Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club.
by jojo phin fan on Oct 5, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jojo!
how do you like our awe-inspiring running game
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
top ranked rushing offense
2nd ranked rushing defense. Parcells vision… :-)
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
love it
Can't wait untill Sean Smith puts Randy Moss on his ass lol, Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club.
by jojo phin fan on Oct 5, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw more shots downfield than any other time this year...
and least the defense has to “respect” the deep throw now instead of the consistant penninngton 6 yard throw
by CaliPhinsFan on Oct 5, 2009 1:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im dying to see a 70 yard catch and run by ginn
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by jojo phin fan on Oct 5, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true.....
You’ll be in the grave before you see Ginn pull that off.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
if Ginn can get behind the deep safety and Henne can get the ball to him, you COULD see it.
but the planets would have to be perfectly aligned.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I'd be happy if he stayed a consistent #2 WR...
he disappears way WAY too much.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said he'd "eat a snow cone" this week....
and for the most part I was right :)
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not so sure on that. Just like yesterday Ginn would find a way of screwing it up
I believe he may have broke that end around for a TD if he stayed outside instead of heading inside. There was only 1 guy to beat on the outside and there was a blocker close to him, although on the wrongside of him, he may have still been able to just throw the safty off or something allowing Ginn to take it to the house. Instead Ginn headed inside and into a mass of defenders.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
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We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
by MainePhinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope, you aren't alone
we all saw that. had me out of my chair and screaming at the tele. =)
And then he is running backward again on a return? unless you are Hester, and have a proven record of turning nothing into something, DON’T RUN TOWARD YOUR OWN ENDZONE! EVER!
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of Hester
what else would we have to throw in along with Ginn to get Hester out of Chicago? 1st round pick?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't want Hester as a WR do you?
He’s just Ginn with a better QB and better return skills….
I want a true #1 WR.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a better WR than Ginn
he catches the ball, he runs good routes, and he does things after the catch. Not to mention he’s quicker AND faster. He doesn’t have to be our “True number 1” we can still go get one of them. But between him being a very good WR and the greatest return man to ever live, I’d be willing to give up an awful lot to get him in a Dolphins uniform
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
compelling argument....I could entertain that thought.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not a first but I would make the trade.
It would be nice to start every drive 20-30 yards beyond where we do now.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn plus
1st rounder, plus a real WR
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aww dammit
we don’t have any of them!
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... is a bird...
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you know
about the bird?
Everybodyknowsthatthebirdistheword!
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the ONE!!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you forgot to use the sarcasm box
amazing!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ba ba ba ba bird bird bird bird is the word
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not just hester that makes chicagos return teams special
Look at that knox kids 102 yd return yesterday
by IEphinfan23 on Oct 5, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go to youtube and watch some of his highlights.
There are many a return where he makes would be tacklers just flat out miss and others where it seems as if they have him wrapped up and he somehow breaks away. Sure the special teams of Chicago are good but Hester looks like a man among boys at times.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, yes he does.
that is a talent that Ginn just does not possess.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all fairness few posses the talent of Hester.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That being said, Ginn is stinking the place up lately.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all the more reason to trade for him
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would look great on this team returning kicks and
on a few end arounds each game.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and catching deep balls
and turning 2 yard slants into 52 yard TD’s and running punts back and being our best WR
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 6, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And actully holding on to passes that hit him right in the chest.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 6, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol we're talking about Hester, not Ginn
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 6, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
I was saying that he would be able to hold on to those passes.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 6, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's true, but would it be too much to ask a WR to be able to juke one guy?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL No it certianly sounds resonable.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for ginn, yes
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont hold your breath...
or the Phins will have one less fan.
ya know Im right
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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by MainePhinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts...
our run blocking was sensational …but our pass blocking sucks, we need to work on that, and quick, cause the Jets will blitz the shit outta us, and henne will be lucky is he has 2 seconds to throw if our pass blocking continues like this…and hopefully our run game will continue with this domination, cause we will greatly need it…our run defense was excellent (judging by the stats and write ups about the game, unfortunately i couldn’t watch the game) and we will absolutely need this same performance against the jets and force Dirty Sanchez to beat us by himself, and then knock that SOB on the ground every f—-ing time he drops back…I want Wake JT and Peezy (if he plays) to have 3 sacks each, with 5 QB hits on top of that…i want Sanchez’s ass so sore after the game that he would have to be the pitcher instead of the receiver with his boy friend for the next 2 weeks…our secondary needs to step up also, and lock down the wide receivers
i wish i coulda watch the game today, but it sounds like we kicked some serious ass today, and hopefully we can carry that over to Monday Night in front of the nation…i think we can, it won’t be easy, but it can be done and i think today will generate momentum and confidence for the whole team and could lead to a very favorable outcome for us
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Oct 5, 2009 3:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good win, but a few things that bothered me
Special teams still not great— gave up a couple of big returns, and didn’t do much ourselves. I think our biggest gains where when Ginn was used as a decoy. Cobbs and Bess don’t add anything as kick returners. Why not just stick Ginn in there where he can actually contribute, since he sucks as a receiver.
Pass defense— okay, there were a few sweet picks and break ups, but what about the big gains we allowed in the second half??? Davis and Smith were both guilty of losing their man badly and giving up the big-yardage passes, just as Rivers & Manning did to us. Maybe I’m being harsh, but I think those plays have been forgotten about just because we were already well ahead.
Missed tackles— I’ll mention Gibril Wilson first since he has been doing it all season long. But we really need to improve as a team. Even Jason Taylor missed a bad one. Sometimes these missed tackles get overlooked because another man will make the stop and it’ll end a drive or something, but 2-3 missed tackles before an eventual stop worries me.
Eh, not trying to pick a fight or sound all doom and gloom, because there were LOTS of positives which have already been written about. Just thought I’d point out a few of the negatives which we need to improve on if we’re going to beat the Jets next week!
Ooh, and just to counter than criticism, I’ll throw in something that nobody seems to have mentioned yet—- no big plays from an opposing tight end today!!!!
by LondonDave on Oct 5, 2009 5:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't think the Jills have a TE
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think so eithe
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason the running game was so good.
With chad henne at the helm,teams have to respect the deep ball. No safety cheating up, and no 8 man fronts.
by ecks on Oct 5, 2009 7:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was wondering when someone was going to get around ot saying this
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't want to jinx it.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
no, i think there is some truth to that.
but i honestly don’t think teams are going to worry much about Henne’s arm until he hits a few. In the NFL, you have to actually DO something to make teams respect it.
So i don’t think it had much to do with yesterday’s win.
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...I've said a few times
that Henne will be playing the short high percentage passing game for a while. Yet they will slowly work in a few deeper routes just to get him comfortable.
No need to make him throw bombs when the Running game is what it is.
He’ll we’ve turned into the Steelers of old….which is not necessarily a bad thing.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i *wish* we could be like th steelers of old
they have 4 titles under their belts.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um.. they why has out running game been so good the 1st 3 games as well?
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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by MainePhinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because of the THREAT of bringing in Henne.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol exactly right
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're were so many things that went right
great win
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 7:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A passing threat helps
I was really pleased to see Chad Henne throwing the ball to start the game. Even though his stats weren’t all that great, I saw a clear intention to throw the ball downfiled more to help set-up the run. It helped to keep the defense more honest. I like seeing Henne roll out of the pocket and throw on the run.
Big test for the O-Line this week. Jets get Calvin Pace back.
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Oct 5, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Calvin who..??
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best rushing team in the NFL
Matty wrote: "While some fans declared during the game in our live thread that the Dolphins are the best running team in the NFL now, I’m not exactly ready to go that far. "
Well NFL.com team stats for the entire NFL have our Dolphins as number 1
(NFL.com Stats, NFL, Offense, Rushing, 2009 reg season) Ronnie is #2 in total yds rushing and the Phins have the top rushing tandem (Ronnie & Ricky) for combined total yds (617). The Giants are second with 553yds and the Broncos 3rd with 516yds. No other teams have two rushers in the top 20.
AND #2 in rush defense, allowing only 6 yds more than the #1 Ravens.
That’s impressive! As Henne gets better and the secondary improves, we are going to have one hell of a team.
by Dolphriend on Oct 5, 2009 8:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Nick
Didn’t read your rushing stats post until after I posted. Totally agree.
by Dolphriend on Oct 5, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no apologies
I actually didn’t post the rushing tandem stats, just overall team stats. So you just piled on and gave even MORE evidence for Matty to go ahead and put it in the post. THE MIAMI DOLPHINS ARE THE BEST RUSHING TEAM IN FOOTBALL lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets see them do it this week
then i’ll buy into it
by Matty I on Oct 5, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon dammit
be a homer for ONCE, this is the perfect opportunity, because it’s not even blatantly homerish lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 6, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget...
The Dolphins are number 1 in the NFL at 3rd down conversions!!! And second in time of possesion. Run the ball, stop the run, convert on 3rd down, control the clock! Recipe for success.
by tdecker on Oct 6, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep! Do what you do best!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 6, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell yeah!!!
that’s how you get to 1-3 buddy!!!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 6, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well you get to 1 and 3 by making a lot of stupid mistakes in the first 3 games.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 6, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played smart and efficient football - "Pennington ball," if you will. And it got the job done
Matty, do you think this is the play calling?
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by Neo on Oct 5, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, pennington was calling the plays
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldnt suprise me
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably
but it’s impossible to know for sure cus we can’t see down field without the coaches tape.
by Matty I on Oct 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sucks huh?
at least when the replay something, they should show one view of the entire D during the play.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pennington helped us win that game
Yes, Henne can make some throws that Penny just cannot. But don’t you think it helped Henne a ton to play behind Chad P for a year? Like matty said, he was smart and efficient, playing “Pennington ball”. Can you imagine a strong-armed quarterback playing as smart as Penny? I can name a few – Dan Marino, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, John Elway…..without Pennington’s tutelage, I bet Henne makes a couple of TO’s in the game
Might have to go shotgun to pass against the Jets. Pass blocking sucked against the Bills and we need to be able to throw it on NY. On the flip side, they may have to go shotgun to avoid the beast that is Cameron Wake!
Ronnie and Ricky are downright awesome. And Ted Ginn should have scored on that reverse. What a bonehead cut to the inside. Does he need sport goggles?
by eagle2435 on Oct 5, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that cut made no sense
the road was wide open along the sideline…could’ve been a TD, for sure.
I’m not sure what to do with Ginn. Henne is still getting to know his receivers and all, but Ginn was definitely not his first option. It seems like he’s losing ground.
by Rennie85 on Oct 5, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, i saw that too. except i called him a knucklehead.
i posted about it way up at the top. =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
frustrating, wasn't it.
that was the only play that really got me yelling and screaming at the TV.
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn
I’m sorry but I still think he contributed a lot. His end of rounds on kick offs helped a slower Cobbs get decent yardage at least. His end of round was a great run granted it could have been more. Just his threat on the field with Henne has opened up more running lanes. Even if he doesn’t catch a single ball the defense has to play against that threat. I believe he will become a lot more productive with Henne. We now have the strong arm that can hit him in stride across the middle instead of coming back for it. Once their timing becomes synced you will see the deep ball and the possible 70+ yard touchdowns.
by troynuke on Oct 5, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we shall see.
the decoy thing only goes so far. What we REALLY need is a true return man. We just don’t have that guy today.
on the “end arounds”, Ginn can get a few yds, and has even been known to score, but he lacks vision and can’t break tackles. That means, the only way he get positive yds is if the entire opposing D is fooled. What you really want is a guy that can beat a DB one on one in the open field. i just don’t think Ginn can do that unless it is straight ahead foot race.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is gonna be a recurring conversation all year
you (or me) talking about our desperate need for a return man, then me (or you) cleverly revealing the fact that Chris Williams is still available lol
btw, Chris Williams? Still available
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes. he is still available, but i don't know if he is healed up yet.
but damn, i would love to see them bring him back and give him a chance
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol I feel like we've had this discussion before
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fine, change of subject.
Wilson sux.
…oh wait…
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better subject?
Patrick Turner looked awes-
..oh, wait..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely not deja vu on that one
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Patrick who?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willis?
I don’t know lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
I tend to forget about guy that I never see on the field.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no he doesn't!
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Explain how we use Ginn as a Decoy
When noone is afraid of him anyway?
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard for him to be a threat for the deep ball when he's on the sidelines
by Matty I on Oct 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true story
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... or in the fetal position....
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the playcalling
With the exception of the end around to Hartline.
It seems Penny was holding the team back in a sense and that was the lack of a deep ball, Henne wasnt afraid to test the Secondary, he just needs to get the timing down, the deep completions will come, no worried about that.
Oh and if anyone doesnt like the Wildcat, then STOP it, its not like Ronnie is a threat to throw and he still produces.
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by Patssuck456 on Oct 5, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The end around to Hartline was likely a test,
to see if they could replace Ginn 100%.
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by joel311 on Oct 5, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing about the WildCat is
there is an extra blocker for run plays since the QB isn’t standing around doing nothing. I don’t understand how people can call it a gimmick.. it just makes sense.
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by joel311 on Oct 5, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great win
I’am overall pleased with your performance on the field. It was a huge up lift, we needed that big time.
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Oct 5, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shake and CWake
3 sacks, 6 tackles and a forced fumble. Damn, let the boy play!
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by Dolphriend on Oct 5, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cameron Wake!
EARTH=QWAKE!!!!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He leaves QBs shaking,
cuz of the Qwake,……………….
get it, shaking,………………….
Qwake,……………….. oh nevermind
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by uncle finster on Oct 5, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol thought you were about to start freestyling
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was...
that was it.
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
⁄€;^J
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by uncle finster on Oct 5, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wat is that>
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
freestyle happy face
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 6, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When do we find out about Merling? I don't want to lose a promising DE like him.
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by kmb8488 on Oct 5, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't have a problem with Davis or Smith giving up a few plays
because I expect that from rookies. Don’t forget that they both also broke up passes in the end zone. I love our rookie corners and trust them more and more each week. Vontae’s pick-six was my favorite moment of the game. I think he’s going to be a good one.
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by kmb8488 on Oct 5, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well said.
i feel the same way. they make a few mistakes, but IMO, they are both playing like 1st round picks and will only continue to improve.
one of the telltale signs of trust? when you are actually surprised when the WR beats them on a pass play. I was surprised yesterday on the one long play that T.O. beat Smith. It looked like Smith got turned around and couldn’t locate the ball quick enough once he got his head back around. And I remember feeling like he had been pitching a shutout, and that one run spoiled it. =)
The opposite of trust? Wilson. I remember thinking when he missed that tackle on Lynch, “Of course he did”.
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. We have to remember that both Davis and Smith have already surpassed expectations
Speaking of tackling Marshawn Lynch, I love the fact we made him look bad running out of the backfield. We did a FANTASTIC job of swarming the ball carrier yesterday. Even Paul Soliai looked fast!
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by kmb8488 on Oct 5, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Smith almost have a pick in the end-zone..?
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't remember.
i know Allen had one.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades
and other explosives
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean...
… like when you’re gonna fart and you ALMOST shit…..
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean shart!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he did
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MISSED THE GAME!!!
Ahh im so pissed, I really wanted to watch this one. Oh well. Good to see that defense finally make up for the past few weeks. I did watch the whole Jets game, and I am sorry I am not impressed at all. Sanchez locks onto his receiver worse than anyQB in the league right now, and Davis should have a few opportunites to jump more routes next week. They do have a solid defense, but Pierre put in work yesterday, and I think they will have their hands full with Rinny Brilliams (the hybrid name i have made up for them). If the D played like it seems like they played yesterday, Sanchez is gonna have his hands full.
by captain flitzy on Oct 5, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they will probably reshow it on NFL network
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like our corners' chances against Mark Sanchez
Hopefully Cameron Wake supplies us with an encore performance next Monday night. The right side of the Jets’ offensive line isn’t nearly as strong as the left side, so I think Wake can do some real damage.
I really want to make up for the last MNF game by smearing the Jets on national television.
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by kmb8488 on Oct 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're just nasty against the run
And I think with a little fine tuning at inside linebacker and nose tackle, we’re going to have a lethal defense. THIS is how you rebuild a franchise.
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by kmb8488 on Oct 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Against the Run and We RUN when we have the ball
how cool is that!
by MassFinFan65 on Oct 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, once again we did...
though unlike the Indy game, where we basically let Manning & Clark go ‘Madden’ on us with big plays on their every drive despite little ToP, we actually stuffed buffalo consistently
by Natalya on Oct 5, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Team Effort.....Power Game!
The way we were running made my heart melt…..the way we are chewing up the clock…the defense kicking in….the smart plays by Henne…we are building from the trenches on up….the running game will continue to make Henne feel comfortable & help him develop….C Wake is an ANIMAL…keep rotating him in….Ginn it is step up or step out time!
Henne looked confident & the Fins broke him in the same way Ryan & Flacco got broken in & looked just as good – don’t put the team on his shoulders-just manage & make throws/runs when you have to. Man everything feels better!
by MassFinFan65 on Oct 5, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Merling should be okay....
X-rays came back negative on Dolphins DE Phillip Merling’s ankle, but it’s unclear when he’ll return. He’s in a protective boot, but it’s reportedly only a precaution. The backup end has eight tackles, one sack, and a fumble recovery through four weeks.
Source: Palm Beach Post
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess thats sort of mixed news.
I guess its good that its not serious but I would hate to see him miss any games. He has played like a beast so far this year.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats a relife
wait, merling got hurt?
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Yeah, see what happens when you dont read any of the post that are more than
like 4 sentences long!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a wonderful way to start your week...
Dolphins get a win, bills in disarray, TO explosion countdown well in progress, and dick jauron has a 4% approval rating :)
Look at all the things we discussed in past weeks pinpointing why we were losing:
Absentee pass rush – we got 6 sacks yesterday and Wake showed us all something.
Lack of takeaways – 3 INT’s, one for a pick 6 and even will allen somehow held on to 2 of those picks!
Lack of big plays/runs on offense – we got a long run up the middle from Ronnie
Too many mistakes – We put the ball on the ground a few times yesterday but managed to recover each one. Turnover diff = + 3 miami
That’s a pretty darn near facsimile of the 08 dolphins and how that squad won 11 games.
Sure Henne’s y/a were a meager 5.2 yards but the scheme was perfect in that he wasn’t asked to win the game. Why would he? With Ronnie & Ricky + facing the bills. He’ll have to make some plays for us to win against tougher opponents, but that time will come soon enough.
Pass protection though was atrocious. If we gave up 6 against an undermanned buff’s defense, then what will happen when we go up against the jets whose defense held drew brees & co to a mere 10 points? Or the saints who made Mark Sanchez into a turnover machine?
Send out the APB on Ted Ginn. You expect a 3rd year receiver to breakout, not disappear.
Overall, far from perfect, but happy with the win and a long way from being 0-3.
by Natalya on Oct 5, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When Snachez meets C. Wake and J. Taylor....
… he’s gonna get to the sidelines and say… “I… shit… my pants!..”
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by Alpha6 on Oct 5, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a dirty Sanchez!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 5, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he already broke out
that’s why we can’t find him
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 5, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orange Jerseys are Back for Monday Night against the Jets!
Now you know.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ur a little late
thats old news by now
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by samdaman on Oct 5, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably.... I'm slow like that sometimes.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 5, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha... a slow train...
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