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Former Dolphin Greats speak about Ted Ginn Jr.


Just read an article from the Miami Hereld and at a charity event some Dolphin greats spoke out about Ted Ginn Jr.

 

Bob Kuechenberg: ``He's an embarrassment and a coward,'' He's got alligator arms. It's sad. I don't even know that he has the ability. I haven't seen it.'' 

OJ McDuffie: ``Every good team has a solid No. 1 receiver, and we have nobody. Just a bunch of twos and threes. Teddy can run, but how much of a football player is he? You either have it or not. Teddy is not as astute a player as I thought he would be. I've seen him go down when nobody is around.''

Jim Kiick: ``He doesn't concentrate. And his route running is not good.''

Mercury Morris: ``He needs to talk to either me or [inspirational speaker] Tony Robbins about becoming enlightened and doing the opposite of the things he thinks are right.''

Mark Duper: ``The only way you're going to get better is if you get somebody to come in and work with him,'' Duper said. ``I would do that for him. I wouldn't charge. As far as not wanting to get hit, I could [fix] that. He's got the speed I had when I came into the league. You can't teach that. What you can teach is technique and fundamentals, which he's been missing. I was fortunate enough to have Nat Moore to play with. Ted doesn't have that.''

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Marino, Shula, and Duper all said that Ginn should not be benched, but stated he isn't making the plays he should and implied the only reason the Dolphins should continue to play him is because they have no other options. Wonder why?

The most important thing out of this article was that Mark Duper, arguably the greatest Dolphins receiver of all-time, said he sent Ginn an e-mail, offering tutoring, but Ginn never responded.

Maybe if Marino and Shula knew this information, they would change their minds.  Ted Ginn refuses to take it to the next level, he cant create separation 95% of the time even with his speed.  He falls down after the catch.  He runs out of bounds to avoid hits. 

He is the type of person who ignores their problems and hopes they go away on their own.  He avoids the media when he knows how bad they are going to question him on his horrible play.  He refuses to learn from the greats.  He wants to live in his college football days, thinking he was good enough then, he is good enough now.

Ted Ginn Jr., why don't you take responsibility for your play, be a man, and take some initiative to improve your play rather than going through your [soon to be short-lived] NFL career as mediocre at best.

 Last week when he caught a ball and had a choice to run upfield and take a hit for the first down, he declined and ran out of bounds one yard short, setting up a 3rd down.  I know he would have done the same if it was already 3rd or 4th down. Until he mans up...Ted Ginn, you are dead to me. YOURE OUT OF THE FAMILY! AND OUR FAMILY'S FAMILY! (your family)

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Not accepting help from Duper??

Are you serious? Do you have a link to this article? Because I want to read this whole thing to be in even more disbelief! He is incredibly stupid, and as far as I’m concerned, should not even still be on this team if it weren’t for our lack of speed at the receiver position.

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by dolphin341 on Oct 31, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

dang

poor ginn all this criticism and stuff from people dang man but he literally needs to get his head from his a$$ and play. i suggest getting hit by everyone in practice dat will wake him up

Who DAT: WILDCAT

by DPL3 Rollin on Oct 31, 2009 10:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

We need to ditch Ginn

He doesn’t want to play he just wants to take his money and quit.

by metalhead86 on Nov 1, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

They are correct...

The old-timers know what is going on, and it is true, he is still playing because we have little choice….even though everyone wants to see what Patrick Turner can do. I trust the coaches that Turner isn’t ready, they do see them in practice everyday. I feel bad for all the negativity on Ginn, not sure it will help. I hope with less plays going his way, it will motivate him to concentrate!

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by garpow62 on Oct 31, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

What an ass to not even respond. Duper is a legend!

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons

by texascowpunk on Oct 31, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow Bob was harsh lol

But Ginn you should have at least got back to Duper you may have learned a thing or two

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by Foy on Nov 1, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah,

if he purposefully ignored Duper then he’s an idiot. He probably doesn’t want to play anymore… he got paid.

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by joel311 on Nov 1, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

more likely

he thought duper’s email was a fake then ignored it

Confidence breeds success, self-doubt breeds failure

by Blaze453 on Nov 1, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah, probably he got it via the Dolphins public relations department or something

like that. So Ginn should’ve taken a look. It’s not like he cares anyway

by MauMontaV5 on Nov 1, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

the e-mail thing is a story

if you want to help someone you go to them personally not send them an e-mail

here kitty kitty kitty BANG!

by bryankstro on Nov 1, 2009 6:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Ginn is youn.. he proably does'nt even kow who Mark Duper is

Not that that excuses him.. he SHOULD KNOW who he is.. and shoulda returned his email via in person saying.. “im ready.. teach me”

Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!

by MainePhinFan on Nov 1, 2009 2:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't remember the last time a Dolphins player had this much controversy going

Oh wait, yes I do. It was Ricky WIlliams!

Anyways, Ted would be wise to hang out with Super Duper and attempt to refine his technique.

Someone needs to slap Ted around and point out that Hanging with Mr. Duper (Nice, I know) might be his last shot at making something of himself in the NFL. And if he’s just avoiding Duper because he feels like it, then it’s futile to hold out any hope for #19 anyways.

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by kmb8488 on Nov 1, 2009 2:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Not to meantion that it might take some of the heat off of him. I for one might be more

inclined to believe that hes trying if I hear that he working with Duper on the side.

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons

by texascowpunk on Nov 1, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I read that two or three weeks ago

and I find it hard to believe that he would intentionally ignore someone like Duper but who knows.

It’s obvious he has no clue how to run routes because I’ve never seen him drive a DB enough to make him turn his hips,I would assume any decent WR Coach would be teaching and stressing this to the point that Ginn gets a bitch slap everytime he fails to do so…same for catching with his hands so I have to wonder if he has a learning disabilty.

 I read Omar saying something was wrong with Ginn when discussing his speach impediment and in all honesty that would make sense seeing how he is still clueless after two and a half years.

by firedanhenningnow on Nov 1, 2009 3:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait!!

Jason Allen has that too!
WHAT ARE WE DRAFTING? , with the 1st rounder? DANM!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 1, 2009 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I get sadder and sadder

whenever I think about how the free agence deadline passed and we did NOTHING

by NC Mike on Nov 1, 2009 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

you mean trade deadline

yeah the supposed trade Ginn/and a 2nd rounder for Bowe looks pretty good right now

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Nov 1, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Duper actually mentored a UM WR

and he has improved greattly, whos to say he cant do the same for Ginn

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by Patssuck456 on Nov 1, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

On the plus side... At least Hartline wants to play

If only he’d stop looking like a Rookie when he’s on the field, he could be a good starter

by metalhead86 on Nov 1, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Also eventually the coaches will let Camarillo play more downs again

His ACL injury has to be rubbing off of him by now… I’d take good ol Greg over Bess any day.

by metalhead86 on Nov 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

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