Is the #13 curse finally over in Miami?
As tomorrow aproaches and the Phins go onto the field with a new starting QB at the helm I wanted to reflect on the last 13 QB's who have tried to live up to #13 Dan Marino's legendary status as a Phins elite QB. We have yet to get there in the last 13 qb's we have tried out.. heres a hats off to our former leader. A leader who you could see in his eyes that he was meant for greatness. One look at him on gameday and you just knew he was THE MAN. Dan Marino. After the jump I wil go on to list the 13 QB's who we have tried to make it work here in Miami since Dan left the Phin's. Some of these QB's did well.. some did not. Enjoy this look back on Phins History.
Dan Marino
Dan Marino was a leader.. a true champion and even though he never won the BIG one he always had that drive.. the fierce competitiveness that made all of us Dolphin fans know he was our leader. When you look at Marino's eyes you always saw a guy who would do anything to win. He had a confidence that not many QB's have today. I know I miss #13. From Dan Marino we went on for the last, what seems like 100 years looking for the next franchise QB who would lead this team to greatness.. heres a list of those who tried, some of which failed horribly and others who were just a few plays away from greatness.

Damon Huard starting for the injured Dan Marino. Huard was with the Phins from 1997 – 2000 and was supposed to be Marino’s heir apparent.. it did not pan out. He came in for a short time at the end of Marino's time but never really won the hearts of the fans in South Florida.

Jay Fiedler was the only other QB outside of CP10 who really had me believing he was for real. He was with the Phins from 2000 to 2004 and while not a great QB he was a good game manager and did put up good numbers overall for Miami while he was here.

Sage Rosenfels was the next in line. He was on the squad for 3 short years from 2002 to 2005. Another QB who I had hopes for who played fair but never won me or many Phin fans over.

Ray Lucas was thought to be the next step.. I mean THE NEXT STEP who would be the greatest QB in Miami since.. well.. Dan Marino. It didn’t pan out as planned. I never got on the Lucas bandwagon, he was here just two short years 2001- 2002 and never played better then Fiedler or Rosenfels so he never made the jump past backup really.

In 2003 I had high hopes in bring in Bob Griese’s son Brian. I was SURE he was the answer. I was positive we had our next winner at QB. I was wrong and Brian Griese only lasted one season in Miami.

Next up was A.J. Feeley. With the signing of
A.J. Feeley I thought we finally have a young kid who has something. I hoped and prayed he would be the answer to our QB woes and I was wrong, yet again. Feeley was a Phin from 2004 – 2005 and never made enough of an impact to keep around in South Florida. I always loved a QB with #7 though.. just saying...
Gus Frerotte came in the 2005 season and was brought in to watch the store for a year or two while we found our next great QB.. However he never made it to year two.

Next in line to be brought in to "fix" our QB issues was Daunte Culpepper. Coming off a season ending injury I never jumped on this bandwagon. I never really liked Culpepper, however once here I kind of pulled for him to do good. He didn’t and was let go the next season after making no impact here In Miami.

Joey Harrington was brought in in 2006 and I had a good feeling about this kid. He looked to have what it would take to bring our QB back up to where it was so long ago. Yes he had a bad start in Detroit but I felt it was the team around him in Detroit and HERE in Miami he would show the world he was a top QB. Alas.. again I was wrong. He ended up here for only 1 season and it was not a good one.

Cleo Lemon.. what can I say about this guy? I never thought he was anything more then a second string and I believe I was right. Maybe it is because I believed all the JB hype.. but Lemon just never hit my sweet spot. He was a Phin 2005 – 2006 then we ditched him… thank god.

So what do we do when we do not have a vet as QB and the young guys are just not what you thought they would be? We bring in Trent Green and give the ropes to him to manage the team while John Beck matures. It didn’t last long as Green went down with and injury. I never thought he would end up anything more then another band aid anyways. He was only here one season in 2007

John Beck.. John Beck what can I say about J.B. ? He would have been a great QB if he was handled correctly. I believe he had the arm and the smarts to lead this team into the future. The dipsticks who had the say threw him into the wolves den and that was the end of the J.B. experiment. It’s a shame, The J.B. Kid coulda been somebody. Lol

What can I say about CP10? Chad Pennington was brought in at the last minute and was an instant change in how this team felt about itself. CP10 is a leader and a game manager. He will not lose you too many games but did not have the canon arm of Marino. He brought us to an AFC title last season and changed the way this team felt about itself. The leadership this man provided was second to none. Not since Dan Marino was there any QB here who took so much control of this team and earned the respect of every player and so many fans. Long live CP10 you will be missed.

This brings us up to our newest QB Chad Henne. I have a good feeling about this guy. He has a rocket arm, has a brain on top of that neck and as another blog states he is a robot. He has had one of the smartest QB’s in the league to mentor him and he just seems to have something.. I do not know what to cal it but hopefully it is called greatness. He is carrying the hopes of many of us fans and with the game coming up tomorrow we are hoping he puts up HUGE numbers. Heres to the 14th QB since Dan Marino. We have gone through 13 since #13 led this team and hopefully the #13 curse is over!
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i dont believe in a curse....
But certainly some people relate my zerothirteen as “no super bowl wins for Marino”…..
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why bring that up
so many peole knick him for that reason. players dont win games, TEAMS DO!
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"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown
And Marino helped a bad team be much better than they actually were.
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More like at times he put the entire team on his back and carried them.
No wonder his knees were so bad!
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that was a great look back mainiac.............thanks for the post
i think my favorite pick was the one where joey harrington is holding the ball without the laces………..what a dork……….
i mean really……isn’t it time we got a quarterback…..?
Just one mans opinion...
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"I'm just 19 and I've got a long time left in this league." - Dwight Howard
btw.......i loved jay fiedler.........
he threw plenty of untimely interceptions but i enjoyed watching a different style of quarterback play than we were used to…….he scrambled, he was crafty, he was gutsy, and he always, at least, gave us a chance to win……. not that marino didn’t have those qualities…because he did……but fiedler didn’t strike fear and create awe in opponents….and he couldn’t just will us to win…..or win with just his arm alone…..like marino could…… jay scratched and clawed………… plus, the fact that he was the “jewish ivy league kid from long island” versus the “catholic polish/italian born, pittsburgh bred marino”….made it a great story of contrasting quarterbacks……..anyway……my spin on the fiedler thing…….
since jay…..only chad pennington has been better……and better for a year was GREAT………it’s a shame that he has had such injury problems…..a certain dan marino had surgery in almost every offseason if we all remember correctly…….but a great season from CP10 was hopefully a fore gleam of things to come from #14……..er….i mean #7
Just one mans opinion...
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by MagicDolphin on Oct 4, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont believe in curses either but it shure has been a long and
bumpy ride! I just want us to find that one guy that can be here for 10 to 15 years!
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Oh and great post sir!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 3, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you. I had the idea to do it last week.. but it was a last minute rush to get it done and out.
I wish I had taken more time and included some stats, but again I did this under the wire to get it done and posted Saturday night. I still wish I had added stats. Stupid me.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
what an errie walk down memory lane........
FALL IS FOR FOOTBALL !!!!!
by Ohiofinfan4life on Oct 3, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
your right
mybe the #13 curse only affects 13 Qbs
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown
Another thing........
Love that pic of Henne !! He looks focused, steady,…………he looks good !!! Let hope he plays good tomorrow. For that matter, lets hope the whole team plays good tomorrow !!!!!!!!
FALL IS FOR FOOTBALL !!!!!
by Ohiofinfan4life on Oct 3, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions
how could those people see him as a robot?
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown
that was a sarcastic comment
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown
Henne will be one of the only quarterbacks who will ever hold the talent to actually make ted ginn a better receiver!!!!
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Didnt pan out today on that front as Ginn only caught one pass I believe..
I still say Ginn is a bust.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
good post
I liked Sage, couldnt stomach Feidler i thought he was horrible to many ints. Cuplepper was started to early, harrington, aj, lucus, and greise all SUCKED
I was a Beck fan from the begining but we know how that played out
A Champion has fallen and out of the ashes a new Warrior will rise
he kinda looks like JT
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yeah, I thought - What is a pic of JT from like 10 years ago doing here? - lol
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by Ohiofinfan4life on Oct 4, 2009 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I was there for this game as well....

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by Ohiofinfan4life on Oct 4, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah that was a great win
they were teh #1 seed at that point and IIRC it was right before teh lobster trap game….
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Oct 5, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I was about to call you on a timeline error
until I realized it was I who had my head up my ass. I was all set to tell you it was Scott Mitchell/ Steve Deberg who started in place of the injured Marino, but then remembered the intent of the post…….quarterbacks SINCE Marino—so I managed to catch myself. So….nevermind lol.
I loved Scotty....great backup....sucks he went to Detroit and failed

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Thats because he had to play on Detroit!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 4, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes I remember Mitchell and pulling for him then they broght in Steve DeBerg and I thought
HUH? I threw my faith in Deberg as well. shrugs But this list is players who played after Marino finally retired. :)
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
awesome post
jay fiedlers the man
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I alwayed loved that dude. I thought he was a real "gamer",....for all his faults.
I mean really, who in there right mind would want to follow Marino !!! For Christ sake, they kept Marinos locker intact,………..that shit would have made me crazy if I was him ( Did I just say " would have made me crazy"….I think we all know ,……….I’m just a little off ).
FALL IS FOR FOOTBALL !!!!!
by Ohiofinfan4life on Oct 4, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
lol, yea fiedler had it rough
if he came in now, he would be looked at as a very good QB
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His ability to go color blind at the most inopportune times and hit the defender smack in the numbers always drove me crazy though.
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lol, he's still the best qb on the list so far
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I think he comes in second behind CP10 but he was a fighter!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 4, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Optimism?
You were wayyyyyyy toooo optimistic about these guys. The “only” one I expected anything from was Green, but the injuries put him in his grave. I almost drank the cool with Fiedler, and I almost got his jersey, but it was too small (small blessings). Henne actually shows some promise. Don’t be too quick to throw him under the bus if his first season doesn’t go well. Look at Leinart, if Kurt hadn’t stepped in, he’d be selling real estate somewhere.
I a die hard Phins fan to the death
and I am very optimistic on every player we bring in. I know its blind faith but as a fan you are always looking in and its all you have!
I agree on Henne. There are lot of guy that never pan out but others that look less than steller for a couple of years and then all of a sudden things just sort of seem to click and they become good or very good QB’s.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 4, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I wondder if he does have a lack luster season or even worse, two do we try for another QB or we hold on and wait till he blossims?
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
otimism is good
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and fiedler
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None of these guys were ever going to become stars
but at times they did not have a lot to work with. They were out there at times trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Of course some of those guys were also part of that terrible tasting salad!
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ewww chicken shit
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Ugh
The only reason Fiedler won was because our Defense carried those teams.
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Ya but again Fiedler was a game manager. As in he kept us around so we could pull off a win every so often.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
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Im glad ya'll enjoyed the look back.
I always try to be optimistic about our team.. Crossing fingers for Henne !
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
People are overly harsh on Harrington. Sure he didn't put up amazing numbers but he went 4-3 as a starter for us.
Not to mention an amazing win over the 7-0 bears.
Dude just got done taking his licks in Detroit and didn’t play the first 4 games on the season.
I think if we had held let him start for a full season, he would have been the best QB between Marino-Pennington (I know not saying much, but he certainly isn’t worth all the knocks he gets).
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Again I did kinda like Harrington and thought that it was the team he was with b4 that caused him to look so bad.
shrugs dunno.. but he has not done anything since being here so I would bet it was not the team around him anymore then any other second string type of QB. I thought he “looked” the part well though. :)
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
I liked Harington. I thought he had a good arm and he looked like he had the game down 4 the most part.
I wanted to keep him around and see what happened but I am not a coach here. lol
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
Not to be a dick but...
Marino’s achilles injury was not during the time Huard was ther it was in 1993.
Sorry… great post though
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Yes you are correct on that.. I fooked the pooch on that one huh?
Huard was here backing up Marino after the achillies injury in hopes that he would be Marino’s successor. It was Scott Mitchel and Steve DeBerg who came in when Marino was out with the Achillies injury. Im sorry for the mess up and will go change it.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
You talk about premature!
way, way too early to say anything about Henne other than, hmmm, he’s 1-0 as a starter :)
Nice collection of photos by the way. I actually thought Fielder, while not the most talented guy, definitely cared and was a gutsy guy. Gus was pretty solid in the one season he was here though obviously not a player who could be a long term starter here.
The good news on Henne is I think we’ll have a much better idea of how he may fit into this post-marino QB thread in oh, about, 13 games :)
I think the curse is over !!!
Cause if you add up all the numbers of the quarterbacks that you have pictures of you will see that it adds up to 130 !!!! which means if you take into account that miami hasn’t won a super-bowl in 35 years .. and divide that by 3 … which is 3.5 … which is the same number … So that hopefully means that is is time for a miracle … WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN 73’ ,,,, So we aren’t going to have a undefeated season !!!???!!!
( duh )…. that doesn’t mean a MIRACLE ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN IN MIAMI
GOOD LUCK !!!!
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID ....LETS GO OUT THERE AND WIN SOME FOOTBALL !!!
Wow, that was more confusing than a comment from WZB!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 7, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I agee ! But adding up all the numbers of the players was a cool idea. koodo's
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
math + sam = bad
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Harrington
Boy- Harrington looked pathetic in the Saints preseason games. I think after sooooo many years of getting hit, that he has become scared of football. There were situations where there was minimal pressure, or easily evadable but he would just fold to the ground and lay down. It was seriously pathetic. I feel sorry for the kid- his professional career has been wrecked.
I saw that in Beck a few plays as well. Although I also saw Beck play well in a few games too..
The first Game Beck was in he looked ok. But a few games later he looked like he has ants in his pants all the time. Or maybe it looked more like he was runnning away from a swarm of bee’s. shrugs Maybe taking a few BIG hits does effect some guys huh?
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10

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