Ted Ginn: Welcome to the doghouse
The PBP reports that Ted Ginn was "off to the side" with Patrick Turner and practice squad receivers as the 1st and 2nd team offense ran plays in practice.
Then, during one-on-one drills, Ginn beat practice squad safety Nate Ness but dropped the over-the-shoulder catch in the endzone. Yup.
Davone Bess and Brian Hartline worked with the first team, with Greg Camarillo with the second team.
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as a true fan
i can understand everyone’s hate for this guy. but at the same time i kind of feel sorry for the him. i truly believe he is out working hard. he should have never been the 9th pick, he should have never even been a 1st round pick. he was a 2nd or 3rd round pick at best and was going to be a “project” from the start. and it hasnt panned out. i mean did anyone ever expect this guy to be a number one wide out? i know i never did,if he did it was just a bonus in my eyes. we’ll draft another WR next year and be fine….
I'm with ya
I kind of feel bad for Ted, too, but this is really the best thing for us. Ted didn’t ask to be picked ninth overall, and you could tell in his press conference the next day that he was as shocked as anyone about getting drafted that high. I hope Ted can salvage his career somewhere else, because I really like him as a person. He just isn’t going to fit in with this regime (which is something I think a lot of us could see early on).
All of that said, it’s one thing to drop passes; it’s another thing to turn passes into a back-breaking pick six. Ted’s had some good plays for us but he’s turned into a complete liability this season, which is something our new quarterback doesn’t need. Hopefully Henne is as mentally resilient as the Trifecta claims, because Ginn did him NO favors in the second half against New Orleans.
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I just recently watched the Cam-Mueller draft pick announcement debacle
And it really angers me to look back and see a smug Cam Cameron explain to people why he drafted a KR/PR ninth overall. How we didn’t see 1-15 staring as us in the face at that moment, I have no idea, but that shitty regime really set us back.
I think we have one player still hanging around from the 2007 draft. Ugh.
Drinking the Patrick Turner #84 orange Kool-Aid.
Thank God Soliai turned out to be pretty good.
I wasn’t too keen on him last year, but he has earned my respect.
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Yeah, he actually seems promising
Which is amazing because I think I had him written off about halfway through the 2007 season
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I'm with ya, too.
It’s not like he feels good after boning catches. I expect us fans to spew blood, he should, too. But I’ll wager what his teammates are bringing, is worse.
First
Yes he was expected to be the #1 wide out...
… three years ago but why else would you draft him so high.
I agree. If your taken in the first round and given first round money you are most certianly
expected to be a number on wideout!!!!!!!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because I feel bad for him doesn't mean I want him on the field f*$%ing it up for us
But let me explain my earlier post:
I meant that he was drafted OUTRAGEOUSLY high and was expected to do something he didn’t even do at Ohio State — play as a go-to, #1 wideout. He played second fiddle to Santonio Holmes and Anthony Gonzalez as a Buckeye and never flashed any real ability as a route runner or as a receiver over the middle. He wasn’t a #1 then, so I don’t get why Cam-moron, Randy “fat ass” Mueller and others thought he could EVER be a go-to guy for us. I wonder at times if he even qualifies as a #2 receiver.
I certainly don’t feel bad for him in the business department. He makes a lot of money and has continued to disappoint us this year. I guess I am just bummed because I really had hope he could become a legitimate vertical threat for us. And I hate the fact our #1 picks in ’06 and ’07 have hemorrhaged on us.
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Yeah, he was picked high but he was still projected to go late 1st or early 2nd.
I think this guy was going to be a bust no matter what.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 28, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, you're definitely right
I think he would’ve gone in the second round. I can’t imagine anyone actually taking him in the first round that year. Then again, the Chargers took Buster Davis, so anything is possible.
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Well you know how projections go!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know...
if he had a coach other than Jar Jarmeron his first year, maybe he wouldn’t have been so messed up. I think the wrong work ethic was instilled into him and he hasn’t fully bought into the new system.
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When is the last time
that you read an article that said “Ginn spent an additional 3 hours after practice catching balls from the throwing machines”…..such an article just doesnt exist.
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Never once seen anything about how hard he works or any extra work. I have seen it about
a lot of other players but not him.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say (as a Ginn Detractor), that I did see articles about
him working hard in the offseason outside of practice on route running….
nothing about catching the ball…..but route running (not that we can see an improvement)
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Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick
No, he sucks at that too.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't all of the receivers stay after for one on one's with Pennington
at some point?
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feel sorry for him?
this isn’t pop warner, it’s the nfl. there is NO feeling sorry for anyone. you don’t produce, you get benched. it’s about time they set his ass down. fuck where he was drafted, a 10th grade reciever can catch better than him. i hope he never plays another down for miami.
Hes got his money. Hard to feel sorry for him!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking the same thing....
Ohhh….Ted I’m so sorry gave you a $19.6 million dollar deal, with $14 million guaranteed.
I’m sorry you have been living off Rice-a-Roni and Ramen Noodles….. poor fella.
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Whoa there Larry the Cable Guy. I want him off the team, too
Just as badly as you do, in fact. Drafting him over guys like Patrick Willis, Darrelle Revis, Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Merriweather has to be one of the worst decisions made by this franchise. In fact, I think it’s approaching Yatil territory. Ugh.
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Eh,
I’m not on board with hoping he never plays another down. I’m sure a lot of fans said similar things about Ricky…
I’m not saying take it easy on Ginn, I’m just saying don’t declare in absolutes. What I hope is that he miraculously finds his confidence and balls as the 3rd WR and works his way back up the depth chart through solid performance after solid performance.
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Hah!
“Ginn lined up in one-on-one passing drills, beat new practice squad safety Nate Ness and dropped an over-the-shoulder catch in the end zone”
Dolphins and Gators baby!
Not liking it...
again the coaches need to take responsibility on Ginn’s progress. I know that its the NFL and a men sport, but obviously the guy has lost his confidence and is emotionally unstable. Ignoring him and putting him to the side WILL not solve anything.
Sure it does
it means that we will have people who can actually catch in the game! OR, should we start blaming his Pop Warner coaches, Jr High coaches, HS coaches, and College coaches too?? Seeing as how he has been Mr Inconsistent his entire football career. Quick, someone call a hand/finger psychologist….maybe, just maybe, his hands are against him in some evil plot to keep him from catching the ball!!
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the coaches can only do so much...
at some point ted has to step up and do what he’s paid to do.
IMO we lost the NO game as a team, but he had several opportunities to pull us back into it, and instead he drops critical passes, and bumbles one into a pick-six?
Bye ted. GTFO of Miami.
I am starting
a gas fund for Teddy. Any fan that would like to contriubte gas money to the UHaul Truck that I will be backing up to his house is more than welcome to. I could also use some help packing the truck, because knowing Ted he will drop every single one of his things on the ground….and I just dont feel like busting out a broom and dustpan all day long.
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Yes but cutting him will make him someone's elses "problem"
If this was the start of the season and he had no contract you realize he’s not even playing good enough to make the team, right? If he had no speed he wouldn’t even make the practice squad on any teams.
Personally I think we keep playing him and cut him at the end of the year. We use him as bait now to try and spread the field for us. Throw to him a little less but we keep him now. Pray for a trade but cut him at year end.
Well...
There’s not really any evidence of him being “emotionally unstable”. I’m sure he feels bad that he’s not performing well and I actually feel bad for him too, but it is what it is. He’s been bad and players that don’t play well get benched — some of them lose their jobs completely. It’s the way the business works.
Atleast he got pay in advance ; )
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I think you meant to emphasize the word "not" lol
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Good riddance
Cameron and Mueller obviously dont know how to draft actual talent. I mean, Ginn, Beck, Booker….I could go on all day about those chumps. Solai is the only thing decent from that draft, and he just started showing up this year.
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I think they drafted some decent talent,
but they ruined rookies with terrible coaching. A la Beck… Maybe the reason Soliai is playing well is he was able to forget everything he was “taught” in 2007.
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Such ashame...
another bust for us…
Oh well, we got Bess Hartline and Ginn, who we know can catch.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Turner active sunday
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i wanna see turner play
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by jojo phin fan on Oct 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
WELCOME TO MY DOGHOUSE GINN!!!
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LOL!!!!!!! Thanks Matty... I needed that...
It made my day…
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You know what,
I as well as others have said that we need to keep Ginn on the roster because he’s our only speed. Well, where is Anthony Armstrong these days? Or just sign Robinson off of the practice squad…. or bring in MARVIN HARRISON!
There are options and I would like to see SOMETHING being done about our current dilemma whether it’s signing a PS guy, bringing in a veteran, or even Ginn being forced to catch the ball in full contact situations in practice. SOMETHING.
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lol... full contact practice...
… useless, when he throws himself down into the fetal position after the catch… lol
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i kinda feel bad for him, i always hav, but
if u wanna b in the nfl, u gotta produce, if u dont, sorry, too bad, so sad
From the Sun Sentinel Omar Kelly
In Ness’ first day he hung with Ted Ginn Jr. step for step on a deep route from Chad Henne and knocked out (it wasn’t dropped) a potential touchdown pass during that one-on-one session
No you will rip on Ginn because he was not able to beat the new guy. I just want to point that all your comments so far could or could not be true.
Anyway I already give up on the guy, just give him a break.
Vato... what happened during the game..? The same thing..? NOT!!
He’s suppose to be a wide-receiver… but can’t run routes and can’t catch. Sounds like the other chumps the team had (at first round picks)… Yatil Green and Randall “Thrill” Hill…
The Miami Dolphins are O for 3 on first round wide receiver picks..!!
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Correction... 1 for 4 on 1st round wide-out picks...
OJ McDuffie was very good..!
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Good thing
that you corrected yourself! I was about to jump all over you on this one. OJ was a true #1 receiver for the finz. If I recall correctly, he actually led the entire NFL in catches one year..I want to say that it was one of Dan’s last seasons. Too bad injuries pre-maturely ended his career….guy definitely played through pain. A true fin warrior!
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This is how I felt with the pick of Ginn as well...
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
I see two options now for Teddy.
Either he uses this as motivation and works even harder to get back into a prominent role, or he just John Beck’d he way out of Miami. It’s a shame too, because like Beck, I think a lack of confidence was his ultimate undoing.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Oct 28, 2009 6:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed on both accounts.
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Hallelujah
It doesn’t take an offensive genius to figure out that Ted Ginn is a lost cause. After 2 1/2 years, his lack of progress and repeated disappointments may finally have whacked the coaching staff into reality. It’s time to play someone else at the WR position, regardless of whether or not we can throw the ball deep. I’m so happy, I’m going to go wear my glass slippers……not.
At the end!
We ARE screw to the bones!
This set us up one pick back in the draft lol
Now is real, not just us screeming to a deft mfer.
I ll be danm, thank ginn
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It looks like there was substance to Mort's report afterall.
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We should have the Drink special would u like some HENNE OR SOME GINN and JUICE
in ur cup therefore we haft to be dealers u want BROWN or some WHITE lol hey ginn jr step it down why not patrick turner would atleast give us a chance who cares if he cant be explosive off the line.he’s big strong and can catch those clutch passes get in the game i hate losing money with miami if they cant win those close games wtf
WOW...
Everybody go and Wikipedia Ginn. Amazing stuff, two things that stood out for me were, that back in ’03 he was named national player of the year AS a Defensive one. Also, he has admitted that he has a learning disability. this definitely says a lot on why he has not adapted to the speed of the game so far.
by Dolfan2006 on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A learning disability
does not prevent you from catching the ball a curling up into a fetal position any time you do manage to catch it. I played with guys with learning disabilities, and while they may not have grasped all the X’s and O’s, they still knew how to catch and take a hit. Also, I wouldnt trust Wikipedia on anything…it can litterally be made up stuff submitted by random people.
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