i still like ginn as a deep threat 2nd wr

He can still catch a ball deep (if he’s past coverage). He and CP7 may still gel.

…i’m certain Ginn’s confidence is already gone. Sites like that are derrogatory, and in a way, hurt the team as much as any bad play Ginn can make.

Best the team can do is let him play as the deep threat, if nothing else, he can also run reverses, and return kicks.

Clearly, receiver is a top need. Can’t really do much about that until the offseason. Shit, I cant do anything at all but watch since I dont make the decisions.

Until then, for me, and hopefully the true fans, best we can do is hope the kid can do better for the team and for himself going forward.

We didn’t have deep threat capability with CP10, and Matty was a big backer for him to remain a starter. A playmaker is more important than a decoy. Patrick Turner has hands like glue. He is a threat in the red zone. We’ve beaten teams without the deep threat, but not with dropped passes. Turner deserves a chance sooner or later this season.

Ginn can go deep, but he is no threat…

I am not a Ginn hater but doesn’t he have to prove he can catch to be a “threat” I mean don’t other teams see the film on him not being able to catch? Is it just me or has he missed at least 3 touchdown passes right through his arms after he beat the corner? The other team doesn’t even have to worry about him. I just don’t see him as a decoy until he proves he can catch a ball somewhat consistently. Does any hear about his work ethic? Does he have any drive? It just seems to me if I was the receivers coach I would have him after practice catching hundreds of balls!

It would just be soo encouraging if we heard he is staying late after practice and putting in lots of work to get better! That would make me love him!

Not all teams have a receiver who can run as fast as Ginn and they seem to make due. Plus you forget to mention that Ginn, although fast on top end needs a aricraft carrier launch deck to get him up to speed. He is worthless at this point. He has no skill and not tallent. Bench his ass then just package into some kinda deal this off season. We have to get something for him.. hell send him to the Lions for a $20 and a some beer nuts.

or the rest of the season, I don’t see him making the roster next year.

It’s time to try out Patrick Turner, or bring back London.

We need to see mor Brian Hartline too.

Activate Turner. What good is a deep threat if he’s costing us games? And if he’s on the field, he’s wasting a spot for someone who can contribute. I don’t like to have him out there for five or six or twenty-five plays just because, maybe, ONCE in 6 games he’ll get a deep ball thrown to him for a TD.

I’m done hating on him. Waste of my energy. And Chris Mortenson’s talk about Cam and the Ravens is obviously just a joke. Ginn getting less playing time isn’t.

is not on the list. But I can tell you that he has less than a 3.2 yard average after catch, because that is the lowest the list goes. Here are some Dolphins that have a higher YAC than our #1 receiver.

R. Williams 10.3
Hartline 8.4
Haynos 8.0
Cobbs 5.7
Polite 5.7
R Brown 5.3
D Bess 4.0
Fasano 3.2

And honestly, it wasn’t even the drop that turned into a pick six that made me finally give up on him, it was the drop late in the game when we needed to advance, when we needed to keep the drive alive so we could score. And the throw was in his hands, IN HIS BODY, and he dropped it while he was wide open. WIDE OPEN. WIDE MUTHERF&$CKIN OPEN. And he drops it. Chambers may have been “mediocre”, but Ginn for me right now just plain SUCKS. It’s so sad that we even have Ginn in our Goat List at my job TWICE.

Ginn, start packing your bags. Come next season, your out of here.

“Whats Next for Ginn?”

Probably a WR3 spot in the UFL

Peter King failed to mention ONCE, not ONCE the dolphins on his stupid monday column. He deserves the Larry Johnson F- word for that.

for Ginn coming out of college. He was great at Ohio State. I was on the supporter bandwagon, and now I’m flattening the tires! His drops aren’t even tough catches. Peewee players can make these catches. I say let him return kicks and give Hartline his job!!

Ginn is about as much of a decoy as a bright orange duck during hunting season…

Everyone knows he can’t catch, and everyone knows he can’t run routes, so there really isn’t much decoy left in him.

Put him on KR/PR duty and then keep his ass on the bench for the rest of the game.

Thank God Quinn isn’t playing like Matt Ryan.

I have officially given up on Ginn, I kept on giving him an opportunity to do something, but no more, nothing, he’s through, bag him up send his ass back to Ohio. I don’t care if Turner is a slow in learning the plays, put him in let him learn the hard way. We have to get rid of Ginn, I do agree that it may be late to to do it now but it’s final that the Fins will either be drafting a high WR next year in the draft or we sign one in the off season, borrowing some huge trade somehow this year, don’t know how that would work. I wish the Trifecta would of been here before Cameron’s regime, what a wasted pick.

One must CATCH the football to a be any kind ot “threat” period. Kick and punt returns, end arounds, that is about it for Ginn’s productive role in this offense. He can’t block to save his life either.

Suprising Potentials on my list are:

1. Pat White can run and catch suprisingly well. He has good speed and hands.

2. Tyler Thigpen also has suprising speed and hands.

With these two options the wildcat offense could see a very interesting “deep threat” potential at least. At first look, who on earth would even cover them with any kind of seriousness at wide receiver?? I see big play potential here which I think is what you are looking for when labeling a “deep threat”. Plus as long as you simply get behind the coverage, even linemen in this league possess enough speed to stay out in front of the majority of defenders.

Food for thought anyway.

People are letting their voices be heard.

why don’t we see how Pat White works as a receiver? He’s supposed to be a receiver too right?

Joey Galloway was cut from the Pats last week. He still hasn’t signed with anyone. He’s only 2 seasons removed from a streak of 3 1,000-yard receiving seasons in a row. We need to sign him. Worst case scenario, he’ll be as useless as Ginn on the field, but a good mentor to our younger WRs. Best case scenario, he re-gains his magic from Tampa and we can be competitive in the passing game.

If you want to beat the Chad Henne Led Miami Dolphins.

You better plan on scoring over 34 points……

The asking price for him might go down if he has a sub-par second half this season.

And who here is going to celebrate when Patrick Turner is activated?

but no one else can stretch the defense. The knock on him coming out of college was route running and hands. I wish we could use him like Philly uses D, Jackson.

Ted Ginn bobbling a perfect pass into Darren Sharper’s hands for a pick-6

You know the ones that are framed with the Black Matting and have an inspiration word and its definition captioning an appropriate photo/painting.

Caption:
EPIC FAILURE = When putrid performance fails to meet even piddly low expectations.

I normally agree with you, but I gotta disagree when it comes to Ginn. Stretching the field and all the speed in the world dont matter if you just cant come up with the ball. Ted has shown that he not only wont go for the difficult catches, but that he will also drop the easy ones. I have to think future here when I say that miami needs to see what they have in their young receivers to gauge what they have to do in the offseason to address the position. I am sorry, but Ginn needs to be traded. He will never be what this team needs him to and he is making #9 overall pick money….(a larger amount of money than what Boldin is making). Players who cant catch, tremble when they see a defender, and constantly run out of bounds just dont get respect in my book. He has little trade value now I am sure…but heck, maybe we could still fetch Brady Quinn for him seeing as how that is who we should have drafted with that pick in the first place (even if he didnt pan out, at least he works hard and would have shown up!).

Ginn is a Good player. Inconsistent but good in times. The REAL picture here is putting the blame on the coaches. They need to take responsibility for Ginn’s progress.

doesnt really make him a threat at all..short or long, almost not worth covering…yeah I say this with sarcasm, but teams will cover him as hard as they cover Henne in the wildcat…Unfortunately, Ginn will probably be OK for someone else,and we’ll end up angry at some other time…Its like training an apprentice,waiting for results which never come until he’s traded,then he lites it up….America is land of here and now..what have you done for me lately?…missed catches,ruined possible outcomes….Time to seek alternative “hands”….ouch.

but, train his mind to win. Yeah, that wright, Ginn body is in very good playing condition but, coaches must work out of his mind the fear bug that does not let him excell.
My suggestions:
1) Position trash containersfilled with water half way all over the field, and start throwing him long balls toward the containers. Let him trash himself against the comtainers agood 100 times each week to help him break that psyco-fear-barrier that holds him back.
2) After his has gone throu the containers drill, have him watch 2 hours of Marino-Nathan Brothers long ball connections so get can see how a combination of running, catching, and flipping upside down to score is the way to win, if needed.
3) Have Henne and him have a shouting session of why they are not connecting. Yeah, that is correct, a shouting session, I would like to Henne to scream his lungs out to Ginn. and Ginn to scream his lungs out to Henne, until they spitt to each other, and the fury of their emotions bond them for good to excell on the field.
I truly feel we have a pair of diamonds in Henne and Ginn, but our coaches have to
force the bond and grind out the fear bug out of both of them.(In my view Henne has used only 70% of his ARM strenght, to this date I don’t know why he is afraid to sling the ball, I guess he just needs to understand that his receivers are well padded and hold all he’s got, not just a fraction of his ARM strength)
Now, all you guys can kill me with your comments.
Let’s go Dolphins, Yes you can !!
LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!!!!

Davis would probably throw us a 3 for Ted Ginn and a 7.

Have him just run down the field as fast as he can at least 4 plays a drive. Do it on 2 down plays. it will open up the field because the opposing DBs will see him running down the field and will be forced to respond, even if its a slight hesitation. It will open up the other guys. And maybe every once in awhile he maybe open enough to throw the ball to ala Jets game. I think in the off season if we cannot unload him via trade that we have him restructure is contract. Give him a chance for a big payday by making his contract incentive based. I am sure if it was built around catches per game, YAC and TDs he would defitnetly improve. But right now, we need to just use him for what hes worth or bench him. I think another option is activating him every other week. That way we can see how these other boys do. P Turn and B Hart need a chance. They are hungry. Everyone says we need a deep threat to win. They also said last year this time that we need a QB with the ability to throw the deep ball. Well we all see how that worked out for us last year. Why not defy the odds and show that it is possible to make Lemonade right now. Lets get some more young talent out there. Clemons, Davis, B. hart, P. Turn: give them all at least one full game. And who better to get them hyped up for than the Jets. Theres my 2 cents.

 all the minority owners we have will throw money into the organization just to win.

what do you think the chances are that we can trade him to cleveland for something. they are lacking a go to guy more than us.

all this on some guy named T Ginn…

haven’t you heard that brett favre is going back to GB on sunday!!!!!!

So do you think brett will wear a cheese head when he gets off the plane, and will i have to watch it on the internet or will ESPN cover the plane landing…. i need to know..

has more to do with Hartline needing more PT and ginn needs a kick in the pants…

but while we all are bashing T Ginn, who has regressed something terrible this year, when is the D Bess less PT watch too start… he’s taken a step or maybe two back….

if pre season was any indication – turner needs more time… his route running was terrible, and his adjustments looked poor… (granted that isn’t really any real shock since he’s a rookie and an inexperienced one at that)… what is shocking is when a 5th round pick is as good as hartline… So turner looked like he has athletic ability, now it’s a question of if he can learn how to be a pro… something T Ginn hasn’t figured out yet, even with all his god given abilities and a family stucture that makes dim overmatched OC’s fall to their knees.

Yeah !! I’m fhwaulking pissed off too !! The guy has dropped too many balls in critical situations, but HEY !!

What about the Fasano critical drop from Ronnie ?? How about us not having David Martin this year as another deep threat ?? Why did we not have Brian Hartline out there ?? Why did we abandon the Running Game ?? Why did we not pick Louis Murphy (starter on the Faiders) ?? WHY, WHY, WHY ??

You want to blame somebody then blame Sparano and the O & D Coordinators !! Coaches got nervous – Panic set in and they passed it on down to the players; no wonder we collapsed in the 4th Quarter !!

GO DOLPHINS !! RUN WILD FINS RUN !! and, REX RYAN CAN SUCK MAH ORANGE & AQUA BALLS !!

he is a bum. he sucks. can anyone name a quality WR that was drafted from that state remedial college in that state south of Michigan? i can only name one, Chris Carter. top receivers always catch with their hands and not their body. this dude is a wasted pick, he should be packaged, along with a pick or two and make a effort to get a top notch receiver. the opportunity to get Braylon came and went, and the fvcking jets get him. that pissed me off. god i hate the jets. we need a #1 receiver for henne to throw to that can actually catch and help henne build some confidence and rhythm. Don’t draft jackasses from the Fvckeyes.

he does not deserve to wear number 19. there are certain numbers that transcend(sp?) sports. for example: 13, 19, 16, 10, 5, 23, 4, 3, 33, 34, 42, and 99. Marino, Yzerman, Montana, Pele, Dimagio, Jordan, Gerhig, The Babe, Magic/Larry, Payton, Robinson, and Gretzky.

a) Go to the eye doctor and check your eye sight ( maybe you need better vision new contact lenses)

b) Practice catching 40 yard throws with a baseball barehanded ( good for eye-hand coordination )

c) Change the gloves you are using now. Use a brighter color (like Neon Orange) this can help your friend Henne target his throws a tad better

d) Rub a little bit of pine sap onto the back of your hands. When your number is called rub a little on the palm of your hands. No guarantees, but anything better than nothing.

e) Show some emotion towards your quaterback via bodytalk or handsignals, Even if your QB was not wrong, it sends a message to you hart that dropps balls are not acceptable and that next time will be catch.

f) Hit somebody for a personal foul the first chance you get. It will make you feel that you can hit too and are ready to get hit
.
g) Remmember that 4 25 yard throw and catches is 7 point, only if you catch them, and no time in the NFL pays millions to defensive players to carry you on their shoulders to the endzone for a score, they want you not catch the ball or to fumble the ball with a good smackdown.

h) Ginn, if you ever read this, know that I will not give up on you until everything we can do to help you excel has been tried and done. I believe you have the eye of the tiger in you, just need to find the wright shockwave into your mind to release it.
Let’s start next Sunday, would you? I would love to see you celebrate a victory over the NYJ and bring home our third win.
Let’s go Dolphins, You van do it!!
LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!!!!