Pat White's New Job
by luvs2drnk on Oct 21, 2009 7:25 PM EDT
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It just dawned on me on how we can truly use Pat White.
As our new place holder for the field goal unit!!!
Alright, I know some of you are thinking, "Has he lost his damn mind!!". I assure you that I have not, nor am I, as the name implies, drunk. I truly think this is something they should look into for two reasons:
1. As soon as a defense sees him out there holding they'll be mindful of a possible fake. Which will in turn, lessen the pressure put on blocking the kick. This will also allow DC$ sightly more time to insure more accurate kicks Yes, I know hius nickname is DC$ for a reason, but any kicker would appreciate an extra second or two and not feel they have to rush a kick.
2. His skill set is perfect executing the fake FG. He can run and he has a strong arm. His speed allows him to get to the outside. His strong arm allows him to throw a quick pass to a TE on an out or post route before a defender can recover from the fake.
But for this to become truly effective, Pat White must learn to become a reliable place holder. Basically meaning, if we decide to kick, he can effectively catch the snap and place the ball for a good kick. We would also have to sell it, so that teams truly believe he is our new place holder. The first game that he takes over those duties, I wouldn't run a single fake. That way teams might disregard it as a simple personnel change. I would even let him just hold for two games, if the games were going in our favor. Then, just when teams are lulled into thinking only about the kick, you spring it on them. After that, it could be used at any given time, even on extra points.
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Pat White's New Job
Chad Henne’s waterboy.
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
I thought you got traded.
Guess not. My bad!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
Matty wanted anyone’s 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks in the next 5 drafts. Even though some offers came really close, Matty couldn’t pull the trigger.-)
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shhh... they haven't told him yet
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 21, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, sorry!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Why r u still here?
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Lefty is still here because hes a good contributor to the blog!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh know theres no money here. He can have one of the bags of peanuts
that we got in trade for Neo.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
work for food anyone, i was abandoned as a small pond roadent!
it wasen’t pleasent for me. but mark it done & over. i’ve grown into a fine beaver (male) of course, with all my teeth, well maybe not!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 22, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
And the other bag goes to beav.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 22, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well seeing as Im not trained it the dental arts its all I had to offer.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 22, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand. You have to go with what works for you!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 22, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
no really the beaver's love this kinda stuff, kinda get's em in the heart!!!!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 22, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Well good then!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 22, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
lmao poor beaver
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How much did he pay you to say that?
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hey, we traded you
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For 2 bags of peanuts? Right?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
and a pepsi and juicy fruit
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Oh yea!
Forgot!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You never gave me my half of the gum :(
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Just let it go. I am sure he has already chewed it!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well its nice to know I was traded
and not just cut or released.
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I'm deciding betweem
Mark Sanchez’s Beautiful Gaze
or Mark Sanchez’s Glassy Brown Beauties.
It’s a UFL expansion project.
Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.
If I'm not mistaken that role is usually reserved for a quarterback anyway.
I can’t recall offhand who our holder is, though.
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I believe it's Brandon Fields the punter.
Most teams have changed over to the punter becoming the place holder.
I don't think that was the reasoning behind it.
How many back up QBs have been injured while being the holder?
I think it had more to do with keeping the back up focused on the game and the offense, instead of his special team duties. But I think we all know Pat White isn’t really our back up QB, so using him in this fashion won’t distract him.
ok, plus, the punter the kicker and the holder are always walking around
practice like they were glued to each other. I saw that on one spring training practice I went to and it was hilarious.
Don't make fun of the Specia Teams clique!!!
At least they have each other!!!
LOL
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Good idea. By the way, all this DC$ thing is total bull.
I can’t recall him making a long kick. And when we need him to make a long kick the coaching staff prefers to punt or go for it on fourth down because they don’t trust him on long range.
He is really good and all but nothing else.
Jay Feeley has been 100 times better for New York.
This is the same thing that happened with Pennington for lots of people. Accurate and perfect in the short and medium range but can’t do the long stuff.
I talked about that when they brought Conner Barth in.
I thought they were looking for someone with a stronger leg.
Dan Carpenter has only kicked one FG over 50 yards, granted he made it, but I honestly think the coaching staff doesn’t have too much confidence in his ability to make long FGs.
But this is what makes my proposal that much more interesting, especially when we’re faced with 45+ yd FGs.
Yeah good point, it could work - not rocket science- but as you say, first he'd have to run
the play like anybody else and after a couple of games unleash him. But sure, we’ve got nothing to loose.
I think they did something like that in Philly with Randal Cunningham back in the day.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
disagree about DC$
He’s a career 85% FG kicker – that’s “money” if you ask me.
Sebastien Janikowski has a strong leg – and he’s only a 78% accurate kicker. And in his first two seasons, he only connected on 75% of his FGs.
So you can have your “strong-legged” kicker – I want the guy who never misses under 40 and is still VERY reliable from 40-45.
Sure, but he is still not Nate Kaeding by any stretch of the imagination
so to me “$” seems a bit over the top
And actually, in 2008 he hit 9 out of 13 from 40-49 yards. Thats 69%
I wouldn’t exactly call that “money”
That is better than league average
League average runs about 53%. But that is substantially misleading. Some of the kickers kicked a bunch of 40-43 yard FGs while others were missing 48 and 49 yarders.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Oct 22, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
And he still has tons of time to get even better.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The only problem I have with that argument Matty
Is calling him a career 85% kicker, as if he had at least 5 or 6 years of experience to go off of. Don’t get me wrong, I like DC$, but I do wish he had a stronger leg. It not only benefits you on long FGs, but in kickoffs as well. We forget how much we loved Mare and his league leading touchbacks.
I think you are over-rating Feeley
Feeley makes his living hitting chippies, lots of them, especially since the Jets have trouble in the red zone.
So did Miami when Cam was here.
He missed a key attempt in the Buffalo game that could have been the margin for victory in a close game.
The last attempt in OT? that was blocked was not his fault, but it was a long one over 50 yards that he didn’t get a chance to make.
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basically if you are saying Feeley is overrated, and seeing that
last year Feeley was better than Carpenter, then Carpenter is overrated.
The only thing I have against Feeley,
Is I blame him for the loss to the Texans two years ago. We had a chance to kick a 55 yd FG to win the game, but chose to punt instead. Texans get into the same distance FG, and their kicker kicks the 55yd FG to win.
Not if the kicker you have has absolutely no chance of making a 55yd FG.
Which is why they chose to punt. If we still had Mare as our kicker, they would of let him try it.
i loved mare
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We didn't want to pay him as the top kicker in the league.
Even though I think he was.
really? damn. I thought he had left because
they didn’t want him anymore. Always wondered what had happened to Mare. Good to know
Yeah, he also was coming off of a bad year,
so it was a combination of both. But what did he do last year? 89% (24 of 27) and 3 of 4 over 50, and 4th in the league in touchback % with 33%.
WTF WTF WTF is that for real???
W O W I don’t know why I figured that he was a washed up vet warming up somebody’s spot. Wow good for him
He's always been great at kickoffs.
He’s always been one of the league leaders in that category. He had two bad years, his last in Miami and a one year stint in NO. But he’s gotten back on track in Seattle, and is back to being one of the best kickers in the game.
he did have a pretty bad game a couple of weeks ago
his coach bashed him in public like a real class ass hole
Couldn't have been that bad
He’s 9 for 11 this year.
Interesting that you cite Jay Feely,
because he wasn’t allowed to try for long FGs in 2007 either… I think it’s just a coaching decision.
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YES AGREE 100%
I’VE BEEN DOING THIS IN MADDEN, AND IT WORKS SO FREAKING WELL
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LOL I like the idea but lets not let what works in Madden start making game day decisions for us.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
IT WORKS IN MADDEN EVERYTIME THO!
HE JUST RUNS IT TO THE OUTSIDE, AND PICKS UP 10-15 YARDS
dont question madden
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I would try and explain why using Madden as a basis for what to run in real life is
a very bad idea but I know realize that this effort would be all for not.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
madden doesn't lie!!!!!!!!!
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Ok Sammy! You run with that brother!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 21, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you
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Just make sure
You’re trying it on All Madden level, and not rookie. Everything works against rookie level.
lol
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It's true, I've beat extremely high ranked guys on line
(while getting beat by lots of them too) and it is much more realistic. The mistakes and all. In All Madden you get intercepted all the time and fumble for no reason and all
I stopped playing All Madden after '08
It wasn’t that I couldn’t win, but every score was like 70-63. All the harder level did was make, computer RBs impossible to tackle, every computer QB threw for 80% comp and 400 yards, every kicker was 100% from 55yds, and running the ball is impossible between the tackles. Now I use the My Skill level that adjusts the AI to how I play.
or maybe u just suck at madden!
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Madden doesn't lie. I used to blitz Zach Thomas on every play and 1/3 times
it was a sack. Just like real life.
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We could always hunt down Joe Nedney
He had a strong leg : )
I said this 2 weeks ago. Maybe 3 now..
We have to find SOMETHING for Pat White to do seeing we wasted a 2nd round pick on him. He is not going to be our future QB so move him to RB or WR in the WC formation.. he was a WR and a RB in the past.. USE him. Letting him sit there and do nothing and handing off one or 2 plays a game is pathetic.. plus he always looks ike hes about to just stop dead and stand still and wait for the headlights to pass by. I stil cannot believe that he was in on that 3rd down play last game. I just cannot believe that Sparano would even think of attempting that.. sure it worked.. this time but it easily coulda gone the other way and he coulda fumbled the snap.. or whatnot.. he is not ready to be out on the field as QB at all in my mind. Put him in the game as a rb or wr so he gets used to the speed of the game then once he is more comfortable then see what he can do as QB or something.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Pat White
If you listen to what Coach Sparano says about Pat White it sounds like he has his own playbook. They have a specific package of plays for this guy. I got nothing against Pat White but I have to agree with MainePhinFan.
I hope hes ready!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 22, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
No, this is TREASONOUS
Their is an art to making the Gatorade taste delicious and perfect – just ask Carson Palmer, and dammit, the teams raves about White’s grape drank making abilities. Distracting him with such idiotic positions like “place holder” would take valuable time from his crafting and chemistry time.
You know what? Howabout this, I’m switching you to play “Cup Holder” luvs2drnk!
YOU WILL LUV2DRNK PAT WHITE’S GATORADE!!!
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tmi
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drink pat whites gatorade out of langfords jock strap
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WTF??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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by texascowpunk on Oct 22, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ewwwwww
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by texascowpunk on Oct 22, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i've been grossed out many times on this blog
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Me too and really shocked a few times which is really hard to do.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 22, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
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