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Use this thread now to discuss any rumors/trades. But it is now after 4 pm eastern and the deadline has passed. There is a chance that a deal was struck between teams but just hasn't been announced publicly yet. However, like I said all along, I doubt the Dolphins are involved.

One move that was made was Rams LB Will Witherspoon being traded to the Eagles for a 5th round pick.

Please use this thread for all trade-related discussion rather than starting new fanposts.

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by finsxfactor on Oct 20, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I plan on watching

Around the League on NFL network at 2pm pst for more up to date info

by IEphinfan23 on Oct 20, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Well worst case scenerio...

Nothing was done and we have the same team we did last week.

I would take our team over about 25 others in the NFL so its not too bad lol

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 20, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

*31

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the needs that we have are glaring enough that they could be the difference between us winning the super bowl or not!

You would think that they would realize this, and do something about it!

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by dolphin341 on Oct 20, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Record

I see teams 6-0 or 5-1 trading, but not 2-3. We should always have the confidence to turn it around, but things could also go wrong (injuries for example) and those draft picks end up being much higher due to a bad record.

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by MoLimits on Oct 20, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

We just got powerranked BEHIND the Jets. The media still hates us, and always will.

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by Farorefox on Oct 20, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

hahahahaha

That is ridiculous.

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF,

how did we get worse in our Bye week?

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just let it go! Remember its good to be the underdog! I dont need others aproval to

feel good about myself or my team.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 20, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I asked my Saints friend

where he would rank us before I told him what ESPN ranked us, and he said 4th. This is after we were arguing back and forth about the upcoming game… I have to admit, I didn’t expect to get that kind of respect. I expected between 8-10, but the man said 4th.

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha,

yeah I don’t know how to rank us. I do not think The Wildcat can be stopped, but Henne still needs to take 40 snaps a game, so until I know he is as elite as his stats suggest I won’t try to place us. Our D is too sketchy too, but so long as we score on every drive our defense won’t matter.

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I move them up if the beat the Saints. I think all we have to do is

stop them two or three times as long as the Wildcat is clicking.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 20, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

JUST FOUND A REAL TRADE ON ESPN!

THE OAKLAND RAIDERS TRADED ST PIGEON TO THE SD CHARGERS TO HELP IN THE KR/PR LANE BLOCKING! LOL

by Tuna4Prez on Oct 20, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

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by Farorefox on Oct 20, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that pigeon. He was fast and has some great moves!

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by texascowpunk on Oct 20, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he avoided contact down near the play

The Chargers already have enough of those guys…

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by ocelotfox on Oct 20, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that can be a problem in a contact sport!

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by texascowpunk on Oct 20, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did football become a contact sport?

Am i missing something?

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 20, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey in madden how can i get pat white as my qb in the wildcat?

i keep trying but it only lets me sub RBs

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by chrislucas on Oct 20, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

LMAO at all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Alpha6 on Oct 20, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

... and F U ha ha ;-]

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by Alpha6 on Oct 20, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Mau...

… no offense intended..! I was in a jovial mood last night, and just about everything seemed funny to me. I don’t know why, but the “what to do” questions on the Madden game just seemed funny to me… Idk, maybe the alcohol had something to do with it, or I’m just an idiot.

… I’ve been hunting with my boys the past three – four days, and so I’m limited to time and being on the Phinsider. We didn’t go out last night so I stopped by here. You’ve been kinda hit and miss too. School or somethin?

… Anyways, a long answer. Sorry. There also seems to be a butt load of postings lately. Not complaining, just saying there’s a lot to read and commenting has become a choice…. like which ones do I want to say something on. Some are just great to read, and I couldn’t say anything better.

You need to make a post dude. Yours are very well read.

Will get back to hunting this Friday and Saturday… the it’s over and I’ll hopefully be here a little more often.

Thanks for askin bro….

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by Alpha6 on Oct 21, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the best play for Pat White is Single Back F Pair

Sawp QB’s CH for PW Swap FB PCobbs for RW go to PA FB sweep it will send RW in motion then it will to all WR’s to the Left except Ginn he will go deep and RBrown will sit there and protect PW in the pocket also if you pass to ginn he will get you 30+ yds. and a TD or check it down to RW if shit fails run with PW he’ll gain you 40+ yds. it’s a BIG MONEY play i allways win with that Play if needed

by Tuna4Prez on Oct 20, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

go to the WC package swap out henne for white

the PA jet sweep pass RB will throw to PW and thats is or go to WC trips over ands he will go on a post route

by Tuna4Prez on Oct 20, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes it should. I know Im on the 360 and I can sub in teh WC and I can use alt formations as well..

However you canot call an audible or hot rout out of the WC on the 360.

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by MainePhinFan on Oct 20, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

porter and wake

I think they should rotate joey and wake , wake was awsome against buffalo, he’s hungry and brees is on the menu !! ginn finally has someone to send him the airmail let’s see if he ’s worth the money, and lets not forget hartline who was brought in to help in the deep ball threat.If we can stretch the defense, the wildcat will eat them up,fasano,and cammy in the middle, getting the all impotant 3r d and shorts, ginn and hartline long. If our defense can keep in brees s face we got a real shot at it.

by finslifer on Oct 20, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Too bad the Saints defense is almost identical to ours

They tend to give up pass yards, but they have the NFL’s best ballhawk in Darren Sharper, who tends to feast on rookie QBs (which Henne is one in effective experience). Also, that run defense is pretty stout, and the pressure on the QB from the line has gotten better via Remi Ayodele (hilarious Onion piece on him – http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/defensive_tackle_remi)

The Phins have to play for ball control to beat the Saints, because they can score as fast and often as the Colts.

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by ocelotfox on Oct 20, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you really worried about any run defense?

We have an extra blocker up front and an unbalanced line should we desire… our Rush Offense is unlike any other in the NFL. The Saints will have been preparing for it for only a week, so I still see us putting up 150 yards rushing.

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm always worried about all aspects of defense

Defense is where games are won and lost, so if they figure out a way of disrupting the run blocking of the Wildcat, I’m very concerned.

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by ocelotfox on Oct 20, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pure offensive teams can win

where purely defensive teams cannot. If you can’t make the end zone, you can’t win…

I’m just arguing the validity of that saying in general, not your point specifically. I agree, if they find a way to disrupt The Wildcat (or Henning/Sparano have aneurysms and stop running it for no reason), then we’ll be in trouble. I don’t see any way of disrupting The Wildcat without stacking the box, and then you’ll just see more passes out of the formation a la RB or even PW.

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They would lose the argument,

considering their Defense put up 7 points, which would only have tied The Giants. Their offense needed to score in order to win ;)

Still, the quote I am arguing is “defense wins games”, not “championships” as is the normal saying. ;)

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Normally your correct.

My point is the Ravens had a shitty offense but when you have a defense the gives you the ball in field goal range 4 times a game its pretty easy for even the worst offense in the NFL to score. Thats pretty much how that whole season went for them. They beat a few teams without scoring a single offensive TD.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 20, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

2007 Patriots are a great example. They said, "Outscore us. If you can."

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by Farorefox on Oct 21, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Fins should go sign Joey Galloway, Eric Alexander, and Adalius Thomas (if he gets released too!)

All 3 could really help our team. Alexander would be a nice back-up at ILB and is a great special teamer (both needs). Galloway just couldn’t fit in with the Pats. Maybe he’ll have better luck with us. If it works out than great! If it doesn’t, atleast we didn’t give up any picks for a WR. And he also fills a need. And Thomas would be a huge upgrade over Charlie Anderson who’d be released in a heartbeat if we would pick up Adalius. Yes, I know Matt Roth is on his way back, but you can never have too many good rushers! Plus, he’s better in coverage than Porter and Taylor which has been a problem with all our linebackers….

In my opinion, Matt Roth should get playing time at all linebacker positions including ILB. I think he is versatile enough that he might excell on the inside. What do you guys think?

by JP 23 on Oct 20, 2009 5:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Matt Roth at ILB

is a novel concept, but he just converted to OLB so do we really want to convert him again? It might be worth it though!

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, obviously you have to do the conversion after the year. But it's just a thought.

He’s have to lose like 10-15 pounds though. I was just talking about putting him on the inside in certain situations. Like goal line when the opposing team trys to run it in….

And actually, last year wasn’t his first year at OLB. He played that position in college in Iowa’s 3-4 scheme. Stupid Nick Saban moved him to DE which almost ruined his career! Last year was his conversion back to LB.

by JP 23 on Oct 20, 2009 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

what about the frequent conversion rule?

you have to take that into account as well. if you convert a player twice within two seasons, you must pay him for both positions. part of the CBA.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 20, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya but the CBA is done after the season.

I’m sure if there ain’t no new CBA, Parcells would take advantage. Plus, it would solve a problem at a position without trading, signing, or drafting anybody. We could focus on other positions like NT, WR, and S. I like Roth alot and I don’t think he would have a problem converting. The transition is not that big anyways.

by JP 23 on Oct 20, 2009 7:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i'm kidding

there is no “frequent conversion rule”

;-)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 20, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree....

… and I feel Matt is a little too slow to be a Middle Linebacker. Idk what his speed is, but you need someone with good sideline to sideline coverage speed.

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by Alpha6 on Oct 21, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Galloway blows

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by Patssuck456 on Oct 20, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, keep in mind, we'd have to get rid of a receiver for Galloway, which would seem foolish

Seeing as all the Phins receivers have four years of experience or less. Youth is key in the skill positions.

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by ocelotfox on Oct 20, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. Isn't Lionel Dotson still on the team? What has he do except get paid to watch football?

We can get rid of him without moving a reciever. And he’s everything Ginn should be (or atleast, in his prime Galloway was) and could probably mentor Ginn the way Pennington mentored Henne. I think it would be a great pick- up since we didn’t trade for anyone. We need more weapons for Henne.

by JP 23 on Oct 20, 2009 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lionel who?

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by texascowpunk on Oct 20, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we could use a TE behind Fasano.

Nalbone has done as much on the field as…. Well me. Lol. And Haynos is a solid #3 at best.

by JP 23 on Oct 20, 2009 5:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Haynos has disappointed me,

I was expecting big things from such a big guy. Does anybody know how his blocking is, specifically in The WC? I’m sure that’s the only thing keeping him on the squad at the moment.

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya it really is. He's actually a pretty good blocking TE. But that's about all he's worth.

They should just make him gain the extra 20 pounds (which would put him at 300 by the way) and move him to offensive tackle. He’s playing TE so I would think that he would have great footwork. Obviously a switch like that can’t happen this year but it’s definitely something to think about going into next season.

But ya, we need a #2 TE. I miss David Martin. :( And Nalboner sucks! Why is he even still on the team??? Is there not a better option out there?

by JP 23 on Oct 20, 2009 6:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Makes me wonder why they dropped Murphy,

and not Haynos for the new O-Lineman since that’s all Haynos is really being used for.

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by joel311 on Oct 20, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell no he's not a good blocking te

against the chargers he was missing key blocks all game… even on a crucial 4th and goal he let a linebacker blow him up off the edge and make the stop. The guy is bad “makes me wish Donald Martin” were healthy bad

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Oct 20, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody has a bad game,

and I’m going to have to judge by the success of the WC that Haynos has been pretty good over all.

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by joel311 on Oct 21, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dolphins Sign Lydon Murtha; Waive Shawn Murphy

Dolphins have release former 4th round draft pick Shawn Murphy in order to add Lydon Murtha, who was claimed off the Lions practice squad

Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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by MainePhinFan on Oct 20, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

link

Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!

by MainePhinFan on Oct 20, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops that didnt work too well huh?

LINK

Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!

by MainePhinFan on Oct 20, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

who we get?

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by samdaman on Oct 20, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

This Just In!
In an, as of yet, unannounced trade, it had just been learned the the Phinsider has traded Neo to Gang Green for a two bags of airline foil wrapped peanuts, and a stick of Juicy fruit.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 20, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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by samdaman on Oct 20, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade prowess is shown

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 20, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I claim the juicy fruit.

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by Farorefox on Oct 20, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit

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by samdaman on Oct 20, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we split it?

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by samdaman on Oct 20, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. ITS MINE.

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by Farorefox on Oct 20, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I apologize- for nothing.

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by Farorefox on Oct 20, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will get that juicy frit!

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by samdaman on Oct 20, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can have the juicey frit, I'll take the juicy fruit

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 20, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Incoming News, the Jaguars have traded away our practice squad to Oakland

for 2 7th round picks, a lampshade, and a can of Soda.

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 20, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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